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On August 29 2009 00:42 GreatWater wrote:Show nested quote +I think he is arguing it because he is somehow A- with great stats and i don't think i've ever heard of "greatwater" before. Your logic is bad i think. For example VinhLoi aka Luxury. Watch his matchlist and youll see his average length of his games. So he is noob?
Everyone say hi to ieS.CarryGun. He's a B-/B rank Zerg that somehow lings his way to A-, with a shitty record a la Kolll, but without the skill. He doesn't understand the difference between having a rank, and really being said rank.
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Osaka27134 Posts
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Only warning GreatWater.
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USA29055 Posts
The ranks are misleading.
I have a barely over .500 record at A- and I see foreigners all over the place with decent records at A- or upwards close to A and they do it by selecting their opponents (not spamming channel). If you truly play everyone who asks and seek out the koreans like I have you will have MANY losses at B+/A-. Some damn good players. Beyond that it is amazing, all the A rank players are friggin good.
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I was watching a replay and I just learned that JungJinHyun is retired progamer "By.1st" (Jung Jin Hyun, as his nickname suggests). He is A+ on iccup at the moment and ranked #10.
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On August 29 2009 03:26 LAS_VEGAS wrote:
I was watching a replay and I just learned that JungJinHyun is retired progamer "By.1st" (Jung Jin Hyun, as his nickname suggests). He is A+ on iccup at the moment and ranked #10.
Generally unless you sent a replay to romad and he confirmed it this is really a bad way to try to confirm a progamers ID. For example a bunch of letters that look like nothing turn out to be Bisus name. you cant go by this because its generally possible for others to smurf on this.
(upload a replay)
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He didnt beat any progamers and lost to a lot of rookies.
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homealone not SKT1 progamers?
gamelist protoss and some zerg ..
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On August 29 2009 00:50 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 00:42 GreatWater wrote:I think he is arguing it because he is somehow A- with great stats and i don't think i've ever heard of "greatwater" before. Your logic is bad i think. For example VinhLoi aka Luxury. Watch his matchlist and youll see his average length of his games. So he is noob? Everyone say hi to ieS.CarryGun. He's a B-/B rank Zerg that somehow lings his way to A-, with a shitty record a la Kolll, but without the skill. He doesn't understand the difference between having a rank, and really being said rank.
Edit: ugh n/m.... there's just so much to say but i'd probly get banned for puttin him in his place. Ill jsut say that rank means NOTHING, winning clan wars and tournaments HOWEVER WAY YOU WIN, whether it be cheese or standard, is what matters if you are a serious bw player.
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hah sickening, his play reminds me of testie alot
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Osaka27134 Posts
This game represents everything I hate about protoss.
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hes probably some really oldschool kor, from all the seasons ive played i never remember seeing a high ranked player with stats like that with 150-160 apm(even tho his matchlist kinda sucks)
edit: actually from the 2 reps ive just watched from him he plays pretty suspicious, but 2 reps is too little to tell if someone is hacking or not
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=19736
this game's kinda funny, he pulls off a perfect counter without scouting(which can always be coincidental) but if your going to go for an early 15 gate b.o switching to fast robo/dt drop without an exp is the worst build ecowise(progamers would never play like that + especially not on a map like heartbreak), why would anyone go 15gate no range and switch into a dt drop? because of my past i can understand stuff like this, hackers especially like using b.os like 15gate because its one of the easiest counter builds to whatever T is doing
also the way he moves his units is suspicious(his reaction time when he sees t's units, you have to pay attention to small details like this and to things like him left clicking his goons into t's base instead of pressing attack when there are no units/mines in the way, cancelling his fake goon range upgrade + starting his citadel when t's scv left his base and his goons wernt even close to being done when t's scv could have easily still been hiding in the corner of his base and on top of that he didnt even scout his base afterwards lol, those are the things that give you clues in addition to the more obvious stuff, thats why u need alot more reps) and the most suspicious part was obviously when he sent his 5 goons towards t's base and then pulled 2 of them back middway, he then held his 2 goons at his exp and then brought them back to his choke when t sent vults towards his base
in the game vs kawaii there were only minor things like his b.o and unit movements(its harder to recognize unit movements when the game starts getting big), like his early game 5g probe cut build to counter his 2fact(that could be explained by him seeing rines being made from his rack but alot of t's do make early game rines+tank when theyre going double command so if he did guess his b.o wrong he would have been set back ecowise), like i said 2 games isnt really enough and i have to admit that the fact that his apm is so low and he popped up randomly when the antihack got cracked made me kind of bias
but the way he plays + his stats = does not compute
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On August 29 2009 15:31 iamtt1 wrote:hes probably some really oldschool kor, from all the seasons ive played i never remember seeing a high ranked player with stats like that with 150-160 apm(even tho his matchlist kinda sucks) edit: actually from the 2 reps ive just watched from him he plays pretty suspicious, but 2 reps is too little to tell if someone is hacking or not http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=19736this game's kinda funny, he pulls off a perfect counter without scouting(which can always be coincidental) but if your going to go for an early 15 gate b.o switching to fast robo/dt drop without an exp is the worst build ecowise(progamers would never play like that + especially not on a map like heartbreak), why would anyone go 15gate no range and switch into a dt drop? because of my past i can understand stuff like this, hackers especially like using b.os like 15gate because its one of the easiest counter builds to whatever T is doing also the way he moves his units is suspicious(his reaction time when he sees t's units, you have to pay attention to small details like this and to things like him left clicking his goons into t's base instead of pressing attack when there are no units/mines in the way, cancelling his fake goon range upgrade + starting his citadel when t's scv left his base and his goons wernt even close to being done when t's scv could have easily still been hiding in the corner of his base and on top of that he didnt even scout his base afterwards lol, those are the things that give you clues in addition to the more obvious stuff, thats why u need alot more reps) and the most suspicious part was obviously when he sent his 5 goons towards t's base and then pulled 2 of them back middway, he then held his 2 goons at his exp and then brought them back to his choke when t sent vults towards his base in the game vs kawaii there were only minor things like his b.o and unit movements(its harder to recognize unit movements when the game starts getting big), like his early game 5g probe cut build to counter his 2fact(that could be explained by him seeing rines being made from his rack but alot of t's do make early game rines+tank when theyre going double command so if he did guess his b.o wrong he would have been set back ecowise), like i said 2 games isnt really enough and i have to admit that the fact that his apm is so low and he popped up randomly when the antihack got cracked made me kind of bias but the way he plays + his stats = does not compute
i kinda agree with you actually, i reviewed them myself. And yes im with you
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
What You guys think about the recent BAN-Event by iccup admins? Many of players were banned like USA player MGMT aka Fassw-X17 or iG.Voltron. Cheloman wrote that few days ago @ night they received massive ICCup logs proving XX players playing on hacks.
I think that's pretty unfair to ban them and not giving proof of hacking to community or at least list of all the players who got caught hacking, so we can be aware of them.
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i want to know who is this Guidu
protoss with incredible stats
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EPT
