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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
May 25 2009 03:56 GMT
#661
yay 18correct liquibet votes in a row!
the throws never bothered me anyway
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 25 2009 04:13 GMT
#662
On May 25 2009 12:22 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2009 01:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On May 25 2009 01:38 Lebesgue wrote:
Wow, HoeJJa won 2:0 against Calm?! I knew Calm is bad in ZvZ but still. HoeJJa has pretty weak ZvZ as well... And for some reason he went 4:0 in ZvZ in Gom lol while outside Gom he never won in this match-up.


There's your answer.


I don't really get it. Do you imply that:
1. HoeJJa cares much more for Gom than proleague
2. Players generally do not care for gom (so Calm did not prepare for it)
3. It is just gom (lots of suprises)
or sth else



Yeah, #3. Nothing makes sense in GOM.
Jaedong
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
May 25 2009 05:13 GMT
#663
On May 25 2009 12:56 peidongyang wrote:
yay 18correct liquibet votes in a row!


Nice going! my most is 10
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 25 2009 05:39 GMT
#664
Mine's 12, I didn't even realize until it broke. That's insanely impressive given all the GOM LB's and ROKAF ace matches and other shockers.
Jaedong
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-25 05:52:40
May 25 2009 05:51 GMT
#665
Amazing, my best is 7, yet I pretty much always stay top 100 XD
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
May 25 2009 07:39 GMT
#666
Hoejjjjaaaaa! Super surprised he 2-0'ed Calm. I really hope he turns out to be someone good at SC and not just someone getting lucky. KTF needs some new talent.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5765 Posts
May 25 2009 09:01 GMT
#667
Alright, is everybody ready to watch Gangyu vs Mensol?

http://www.gomtv.net/videos/774

What a riot.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-25 10:30:21
May 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#668
On May 24 2009 18:01 So no fek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2009 15:19 saikeraku wrote:
(Z)Calm
(P)Shuttle
(Z)Jaedong
Much



I agree with these predictions.


<3 Shuttle



Whew, I had actually Liquibet (Z)HoeJJa (and was rooting for him when I agreed with these picks), so I went 4/4. :D
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 25 2009 11:24 GMT
#669
damnit folks, I just read the livereports for jaedong vs jjonga and I was so nervous coz you couldn't make up your mind on who was ahead! Yes im partially talking to you Deconduo; "looks like jaedong is in trouble", "Jaedong is fucked i think" , "Jaedong blah blah"! You're not good for my bloodpreassure!

+ Show Spoiler +
It made the read so much better though, was like almost watching the games;)
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 25 2009 11:30 GMT
#670
On May 25 2009 20:24 StylishVODs wrote:
damnit folks, I just read the livereports for jaedong vs jjonga and I was so nervous coz you couldn't make up your mind on who was ahead! Yes im partially talking to you Deconduo; "looks like jaedong is in trouble", "Jaedong is fucked i think" , "Jaedong blah blah"! You're not good for my bloodpreassure!

+ Show Spoiler +
It made the read so much better though, was like almost watching the games;)

The vods are up now so go watch them

Just mislabeled as Gangyu vs Mensol. >_>
Moderator。◕‿◕。
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 25 2009 15:48 GMT
#671
I love how all the videos are mislabeled as next week's matchups. Well done GOM.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
May 25 2009 17:10 GMT
#672
I was hoping EffOrt vs Mind was actually up T_T
Entusman #12
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 25 2009 17:45 GMT
#673
On May 26 2009 02:10 littlechava wrote:
I was hoping EffOrt vs Mind was actually up T_T

Yeah, I was really excited.
Jaedong
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 26 2009 16:37 GMT
#674
On May 24 2009 20:39 deathgod6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2009 20:38 darktreb wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:37 deathgod6 wrote:
I don't see why he built that 1 gateway in his main and that 1 proxy gateway. Those 300 minerals would have made 2 more cannons which would have prevented Jaedong from breaking.


Well, Jaedong had that Overlord count Cannons from the left and made his decision based off of that. Just beautiful play by Jaedong....

I'm just saying that it was JJonga's fault for not having enough cannons up in time to defend. But that was nice timing by Jaedong to attack at that time to snipe the individual cannons.


Dude, stop saying JJonga threw the game away. Jaedong obviously counted the cannons with his ovie which allowed him to think how many hydras he would need. If JJonga didn't make those gateways and instead made more cannons, Jaedong would have just made more hydras to compensate for extra cannons. Jjonga went for gateway so that he could tech earlier. Jaedong would be bound to go mutas so Jjonga had no choice to go but to get core and tech. And making Jaedong stay in his base a minute longer wouldn't really do anything since Jjong was also running on 1 base. It's not like he was expanding
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 26 2009 18:26 GMT
#675
lofl that was the saddest game 3 I have seen in a while. progamer protoss doesn't know where B+C keys are on keyboard? lol...
Sup
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 26 2009 20:04 GMT
#676
I'm super happy to see Much win! He's my favourite Toss of all time. Can he go all the way?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 27 2009 14:24 GMT
#677
On May 27 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2009 20:39 deathgod6 wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:38 darktreb wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:37 deathgod6 wrote:
I don't see why he built that 1 gateway in his main and that 1 proxy gateway. Those 300 minerals would have made 2 more cannons which would have prevented Jaedong from breaking.


Well, Jaedong had that Overlord count Cannons from the left and made his decision based off of that. Just beautiful play by Jaedong....

I'm just saying that it was JJonga's fault for not having enough cannons up in time to defend. But that was nice timing by Jaedong to attack at that time to snipe the individual cannons.


Dude, stop saying JJonga threw the game away. Jaedong obviously counted the cannons with his ovie which allowed him to think how many hydras he would need. If JJonga didn't make those gateways and instead made more cannons, Jaedong would have just made more hydras to compensate for extra cannons. Jjonga went for gateway so that he could tech earlier. Jaedong would be bound to go mutas so Jjonga had no choice to go but to get core and tech. And making Jaedong stay in his base a minute longer wouldn't really do anything since Jjong was also running on 1 base. It's not like he was expanding

The second gateway JJonga made in his main = totally stupid considering there was no lair. Make 10 cannons at your choke.

Tech to templar.

Win =]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
May 27 2009 14:43 GMT
#678
On May 27 2009 05:04 Holgerius wrote:
I'm super happy to see Much win! He's my favourite Toss of all time. Can he go all the way?


iirc he's against Jaedong next

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no
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 27 2009 14:49 GMT
#679
On May 27 2009 23:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2009 01:37 AzureEye wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:39 deathgod6 wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:38 darktreb wrote:
On May 24 2009 20:37 deathgod6 wrote:
I don't see why he built that 1 gateway in his main and that 1 proxy gateway. Those 300 minerals would have made 2 more cannons which would have prevented Jaedong from breaking.


Well, Jaedong had that Overlord count Cannons from the left and made his decision based off of that. Just beautiful play by Jaedong....

I'm just saying that it was JJonga's fault for not having enough cannons up in time to defend. But that was nice timing by Jaedong to attack at that time to snipe the individual cannons.


Dude, stop saying JJonga threw the game away. Jaedong obviously counted the cannons with his ovie which allowed him to think how many hydras he would need. If JJonga didn't make those gateways and instead made more cannons, Jaedong would have just made more hydras to compensate for extra cannons. Jjonga went for gateway so that he could tech earlier. Jaedong would be bound to go mutas so Jjonga had no choice to go but to get core and tech. And making Jaedong stay in his base a minute longer wouldn't really do anything since Jjong was also running on 1 base. It's not like he was expanding

The second gateway JJonga made in his main = totally stupid considering there was no lair. Make 10 cannons at your choke.

Tech to templar.

Win =]

There is no way he could have made all those 10 cannons in time until JD got range, at which point the forge was going to go down. After that, JD just needed to get, say, 12 hydras and he could have easily taken all the cannons out. 2h hydra can be run comfortably off 1 base, especially if you only get 4 zerglings early on. You only need about 15 drones total for it.

After all those cannons got destroyed, he wouldn't have had anything in his main, and would have lost the game. Without being able to pull probes to help, you only need like 10 hydras vs 7-8 cannons and so on. They really destroy them extremely easily.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-27 15:23:31
May 27 2009 14:58 GMT
#680
The second gateway, as well as the zealot, were COMPLETELY wasted. I mean honestly, why on earth did he make a zealot?

If he had instead made 2 more cannons, Jaedong would not have been able to break the frontmost cannons the way he did, and thus JJonga would have ample time to mass even more cannons.

Maybe it's not a guaranteed win, back in the day I mostly used this build for Ride of Valkyries which has a ramp, and I went 2 gate @ their ramp, but the situation is mostly the same. And JJonga had the advantage of having a very succesful early game (forcing the hatch cancellation).

The entrance is fairly small, so as long as he can hold him off until he gets a nice wide arch far enough back, IMO he should hold.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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