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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
May 19 2009 02:53 GMT
#361
Ok ladies and gentlemen it is the time of times to hit f5.

Idra the 215 EAPM TVZ tyrant versus the 190 eapm zerg giant (literally).

Game 1 of 2 bo3, with idra up 1 game.

Idra vs day

DAY[9] HWAITING~!~!~!

tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 19 2009 02:55 GMT
#362
I think I'm slowly falling in love with Day.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 03:03:10
May 19 2009 03:03 GMT
#363
--- Nuked ---
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
May 19 2009 03:10 GMT
#364
idra 1/0 day
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
May 19 2009 03:20 GMT
#365
Go Day9!!!!!! You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!
^______________^
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 19 2009 03:20 GMT
#366
i'm out!

idra advances!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 19 2009 03:21 GMT
#367
Idra wins, gg's everyone, nice try Sean!!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
May 19 2009 03:26 GMT
#368
wowowowowow greg SEE YOU IN New York!!!!!!
nice try sean surely you will win one of the next one's!!!
machinehead2
Profile Joined May 2009
1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-05-19 03:32:59
May 19 2009 03:26 GMT
#369
On May 19 2009 11:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the issueis more or less resolved (small issue imo) but I spoke with my WCG guy and apparently with the hard proof (chat log on tl.net of machinehead agreeing to the time) IdrA could have made a case that the w/o was bad/in error and could have been reversed. As it doesn't seem to be an issue I don't think any more action is necessary but just so we are clear it literally is everyone agreeing on Machinehead being completely wrong/bad.

I'd elaborate on this but I am trying to become a diplomat for the SCBW community and my true emotions would probably be a step back from that.


With all due respect, anyone who has been presented all the information, if they think what you have said, they should be embarrassed. To me that is not even an opinion. Day and some other person with some name that starts with a T... seem to be the only people that understand what really happened. Kudos to them. When I made an agreement with Day, there are two ways to look at it: 1) play my match with Idra, then resume tomorrow to accommodate Day. 2) The tourney is rescheduled for tomorrow. I couldn't make my mind up on which it was. At first I thought it was number 1... but for me to even think number 2 is what it is, WCG had to confirm this in my mind.

Blaming someone who takes a walkover, and only wants it to stand if they won't allow me to reschedule the game vs him is so ridiculous. A 5 year old could see there is no problem with that.

You guys don't even understand why this would be a concern to me, which is sad. Why even post if you won't put thought into it? If you reschedule a match versus your opponent before the official time begins, that will obviously work out. But, if you want to reschedule the matches to be after the official time, you would have to be a fool to think it is cool if the WCG admins don't acknowledge your wishes. They could have easily not even known and just used w/e method to decide the results.

The agreement with Day isn't even proof that I agreed to play Idra on that day; there are 2 options -- we did not clarify this enough. Yeah, number 2 makes more sense. But if WCG admins ignore you, it's really hard to place blame on anyone but them.

Anyways, the matter is done, but it bothers me that you can make something out of nothing. A precaution against being DQ'ed shouldn't be mistaken for abuse... I showed up when WCG led me to believe I should have. It's so simple, jesus.

Btw, gameon doesn't lag anymore (for me at least) and that is great news. Anyways, I wish everyone luck and I apologize if they can't see the obvious. It's so weird to play someone and have them be negative when you were trying to get the game rescheduled to tonight. It's hard to really feel like playing in that ambiance of confusion. Not making excuses, as Idra is clearly... the better player... it just takes any fun out of the game.


Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 19 2009 03:28 GMT
#370
ty for all your support lol ^_^

this has been excellent motivation to play more
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 19 2009 03:29 GMT
#371
On May 19 2009 12:26 machinehead2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2009 11:11 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
the issueis more or less resolved (small issue imo) but I spoke with my WCG guy and apparently with the hard proof (chat log on tl.net of machinehead agreeing to the time) IdrA could have made a case that the w/o was bad/in error and could have been reversed. As it doesn't seem to be an issue I don't think any more action is necessary but just so we are clear it literally is everyone agreeing on Machinehead being completely wrong/bad.

I'd elaborate on this but I am trying to become a diplomat for the SCBW community and my true emotions would probably be a step back from that.


With all due respect, anyone who has been presented all the information, if they think what you have said, they should be embarrassed. To me that is not even an opinion. Day and some other person with some name that starts with a T... seem to be the only people that understand what really happened. Kudos to them. When I made an agreement with Day, there are two ways to look at it: 1) play my match with Idra, then resume tomorrow to accommodate Day. 2) The tourney is rescheduled for tomorrow. I couldn't make my mind up on which it was. At first I thought it was number 1... but for me to even think number 2 is what it is, WCG had to confirm this in my mind.

Blaming someone who takes a walkover, and only wants it to stand if they won't allow me to reschedule the game vs him is so ridiculous. A 5 year old could see there is no problem with that.

You guys don't even understand why this would be a concern to me, which is sad. Why even post if you won't put thought into it? If you reschedule a match versus your opponent before the official time begins, that will obviously work out. But, if you want to reschedule the matches to be after the official time, you would have to be a fool to think it is cool if the WCG admins don't acknowledge your wishes. They could have easily not even known and just used w/e method to decide the results.

The agreement with Day isn't even proof that I agreed to play Idra on that day; there are 2 options -- we did not clarify this enough. Yeah, number 2 makes more sense. But if WCG admins ignore you, it's really hard to place blame on anyone but them.

Anyways, the matter is done, but it bothers me that you can make something out of nothing. A precaution against being DQ'ed shouldn't be mistaken for abuse... I showed up when WCG led me to believe I should have. It's so simple, jesus.

Btw, gameon doesn't lag anymore (for me at least) and that is great news. Anyways, I wish everyone luck and I apologize if they can't see the obvious. It's so weird to play someone and have them be negative when you were trying to get the game rescheduled to tonight. It's hard to really feel like playing in that ambiance of confusion. Not making excuses, as Idra is clearly... the better player... it's just it takes any fun out of the game.




i do understand where you're coming from, but i'd best let it go. i'm not sure if any good can come from discussing it more (considering how these threads are prone to turn into massive flame wars really fast haha)

gg's to idra!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 19 2009 04:19 GMT
#372
For Machinehead
http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_our_loss_of_wisdom.html

GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
May 19 2009 04:30 GMT
#373
Machinehead, you should read the rules.

Players can agree to play the match at a time other than the time specified.

Even if you decided to cautiously attend the originally scheduled time of the tournament because you just weren't sure, you were completely aware of the discussion in this thread about postponing the matches. So you should have never taken the W/O. It just seems very underhanded to agree to something and then go back on your word.

Even in the scenario you describe, where you weren't sure what you were agreeing to . . . When Idra didn't show up, you had to know it was because he was anticipating playing you at 6 PM on Monday.

One of the main points you've been making is that you are worried that the incompetency of WCG will screw you over. Well, taking a W/O seems a lot like you are trying to use the incompetency of WCG to your advantage.

The people that you allege agree with you are just telling the rest of us to get off your back, not that they agree with what you did. The getting off your back will happen as soon as you stop pretending to be in the right about this.

If I were going to try to fuck someone over, I would make sure that the fucking over took place within the rules of the competition, instead of outside of the rules and outside of a publicly accepted agreement.
Carbon FC
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 19 2009 04:37 GMT
#374
anyways just one last thought.. the only fucked up part is that you persisted with arguing. I understand your initial reasoning for wanting to take a W.O because of the miscommunication, but once everyone came in here and even IdrA came in to the discussion you should have said "oh ok lets just play tomorrow no prob" and the issue would have been dead, but you just persisted to argue.

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
May 19 2009 04:39 GMT
#375
Idra you better be ready for the most epic cheesefest of his life in September

congrats yo
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
May 19 2009 04:46 GMT
#376
I don't see why you're still talking about it. It's done with.

Congrats to all four of you and especially idra obvi.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 19 2009 04:48 GMT
#377
IN BW, DRAMA NEVER DIES!
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
May 19 2009 04:52 GMT
#378
YEAH! Remember LastShadow?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 19 2009 04:57 GMT
#379
who the fuck's that guy?
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
May 19 2009 05:19 GMT
#380
I don't understand these brackets. Who defeated lastshadow?
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