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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 26 2009 13:30 GMT
#741
Jaedong always attacks when he doesn't know what to do. It costs him a lot of games, but this time it saved his ass. Movie would have overpowered Jaedong easily later on if that three step attack of hydralisk lurker drop, mutalisk snipe and the final doom drop didn't work out. Most zergs would have pressed SD instinctively trying to delay their death, but if there's one thing Jaedong does in the face of defeat, it's attacking with all his might. And it's quite a fierce attack too.
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snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-26 13:38:49
April 26 2009 13:33 GMT
#742
yeah there is a difference. JD over relies on his mutas... which cost him the game a lot of times. But at the same time they create epic games (like against iris). I say he is best with a mixture. It doesn't even have to be that much of a mixture just get 10 hydras =P. Another thing i notice is he works a lot better with a smaller eco rather than trying to macro crazy. Game 1 here showed his crazy macro style which failed (there are others but i'm too tired to remember them). His smaller eco builds work for him much better like 2 hatch mutas we see a lot as well as those epic queen games where he went fast hive on 2 gas. This is probably (or obviously) due to his insane micro/control.

Just my 2 cents (i watch a lot of jd games.. every one of them as well as rewatching them)
snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
April 26 2009 13:36 GMT
#743
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote:
Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.



eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 26 2009 13:36 GMT
#744
On April 26 2009 22:30 Letmelose wrote:
Jaedong always attacks when he doesn't know what to do. It costs him a lot of games, but this time it saved his ass. Movie would have overpowered Jaedong easily later on if that three step attack of hydralisk lurker drop, mutalisk snipe and the final doom drop didn't work out. Most zergs would have pressed SD instinctively trying to delay their death, but if there's one thing Jaedong does in the face of defeat, it's attacking with all his might. And it's quite a fierce attack too.


that's very true. it's what is currently seperating jaedong from other zergs; when other zergs are that far behind they just delay their loss as much as they can. they still lose

jaedong will find away to turn the game around, and given his incredible control, it works out far more often than it should

he is a megabadass
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
boredcouch
Profile Joined May 2008
United States110 Posts
April 26 2009 13:39 GMT
#745
snapcrackle:
I definitely agree with you that Jaedong over relies on his mutas. However, I don't think you can say that his macro style is "bad". The low econ games that Jaedong wins just showcase how good his micro is and thus you think he should just stick with that strategy. Combine that godly micro with a stream of endless units and Jaedong is unstoppable.

The first game he lost because Movie tricked him and found an opening just as Jaedong was about to start pumping units. Either way, if Jaedong can continue to play at such a high level we may be seeing the GOAT of starcraft!
starcraft is the greatest game ever
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
April 26 2009 13:41 GMT
#746
Yeah Jaedong! <3
♠Spades ♣Clubs ♥Hearts ♦Diamonds ★★★★★
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 26 2009 13:43 GMT
#747
Jaedong's micro, concentration and reaction time was way sloppier than the usual standards we are used to seeing. For a player like Jaedong who relies so heavily on crisp execution rather than smooth management skills (like Savior in his prime), this really does cost him heavily.

Jaedong wouldn't have lost his first game had he used scourges to keep the corsair count to a bare minimum. His scourge micro was off, but his game plan was "set" for his usual top notch condition where his mutalisks are free to snipe the zealot archon army.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 26 2009 13:43 GMT
#748
whats a goat of starcraft.

does that mean jaedong will be making destroyer brand cheese?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 26 2009 13:47 GMT
#749
On April 26 2009 22:36 snapcrackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote:
Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.



eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)


Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
April 26 2009 13:48 GMT
#750
I'm glad Jaedong is finally out of his slump.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 26 2009 13:51 GMT
#751
On April 26 2009 22:47 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2009 22:36 snapcrackle wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote:
Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.



eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)


Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.


To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 26 2009 13:53 GMT
#752
I think he is doing bad in April, because he spends all his time practising on the new maps --> lack of sleep
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
April 26 2009 13:54 GMT
#753
On April 26 2009 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2009 22:47 Letmelose wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:36 snapcrackle wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote:
Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.



eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)


Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.


To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>


Well, I was speaking more generally, but yeah, the map pool had minimal effect on today's games. Like I said, Jaedong looked really tired, and wasn't his usal crisp self.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 26 2009 13:59 GMT
#754
Jaedong is always really tired.

It is like his thing.

He all killed KTF by yawning, I swear.
Remember Violet.
boredcouch
Profile Joined May 2008
United States110 Posts
April 26 2009 14:06 GMT
#755
GOAT= greatest of all time
lol @ jaedong cheese, shoot I would buy it
starcraft is the greatest game ever
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
April 26 2009 14:37 GMT
#756
Thanks for the reports.
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
April 26 2009 14:50 GMT
#757
I bet noone got 4/4 liquibets right.
Time for some Revolution !
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 26 2009 14:54 GMT
#758
On April 26 2009 23:50 Mista wrote:
I bet noone got 4/4 liquibets right.


yeah,now my worse streak is 4,damn it
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 26 2009 16:01 GMT
#759
NaDa

✌
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 26 2009 16:22 GMT
#760
On April 26 2009 22:54 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2009 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:47 Letmelose wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:36 snapcrackle wrote:
On April 26 2009 22:27 Crunchums wrote:
Jaedong could be the next person to be #1 on power rank for two consecutive ones since... Jaedong did it in september to october of last year.



eh he isn't playing as good as he use to (which brought him to number 1 in PR). Check his win/loss games recently as i dont wanna release any spoilers but he hasn't been his typical self this month... or i SHOULD say the second half of this month as PR were released late..... (now that i think about it since PR was released late he may get #1 two consecutive games in a row although i predict skyhigh and leta to move up considerably high)


Jaedong always does bad in April. The map pool also happens to change in April with the start of a brand new season. Coincidence? I think not.


To be fair, one of the maps is hardly different (Neo Medusa) and one is obviously not the most foreign (Destination). His only excuse if that were the case would be A Garden of GOD but he won so :>


Well, I was speaking more generally, but yeah, the map pool had minimal effect on today's games. Like I said, Jaedong looked really tired, and wasn't his usal crisp self.


Well 3 of the games he's lost lately can actually be excused in the next PR aslong as he starts playing good again now. (those games are the two games he had to face a new build and didn't have an answer for it, but my guess is you won't be able to do it one more time, and the last game is the cannonprox on outsider.)
Jaedongs not slumping yet, just shown some weak games in a row, happens every once in a while to all dominating players.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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