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aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-19 17:53:26
March 19 2009 17:51 GMT
#21
Never mind, edited, just saw Fzero's post
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ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
March 19 2009 17:58 GMT
#22
i just hope jd kills 2-3 at least lol
I'd like that Rosh cheeze with some whine.////.... When you feel down and lost read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
March 19 2009 18:10 GMT
#23
If KTF can dispose of JD and HiyA with three kills total or less, they win. OZ's backups are scrubs with the exception of BackHo who is probably out of shape. Non?

On the other hand, JD is likely to two-kill before Flash comes out and rides map imba and the Flash imba to victory. HiyA snipes Flash in a TvT on RH3, but loses to Lux who then has to win another two games.

Oh, AFTER an MSL finals. Yeah, I see KTF going down here.

Unless they actually knock JD out in game one or two. But HiyA's still an all-kill machine.

I'm not even going to try to predict this one, I can argue myself in circles even without outside help.
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
March 19 2009 18:32 GMT
#24
On March 19 2009 22:48 Fzero wrote:
The Players

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Hiya 10-1 WL TvP is crazy. Too bad it's no use against KTF.
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
March 19 2009 18:33 GMT
#25
I don't mind a result when jd kills 3 and reverse kill happens as long as its luxury and not flash
I'd like that Rosh cheeze with some whine.////.... When you feel down and lost read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
March 19 2009 19:21 GMT
#26
On March 20 2009 01:38 RainmanMP wrote:
ROFL. How can Tempest snipe a Terran on Medusa when the second set on Medusa would be vs Jaedong? And if he sniped a Terran on Destination, then he would be KTF's last hope And you can't snipe Jaedong on Colosseum II or Destination? He can't possibly play those maps if he is starting. And how can Hoejja snipe a Toss on Neo Harmony if he is starting? You need to get your stories straight based off the map pool rofl.

Relax, they probably just wrote the article before the map pool came out.
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Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
March 19 2009 19:48 GMT
#27
On March 20 2009 03:33 ichimarugin680 wrote:
I don't mind a result when jd kills 3 and reverse (T)Kill happens as long as its luxury and not flash

Haha me too! Zerg pride!
Although I prefer (Z)Jaedong all (T)Kill.
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
March 19 2009 22:38 GMT
#28
Yeah, I did not have time to write so I asked for some help and Dr H was kind enough to offer.

Plexa is a bit busy around here right now and we have a queue for articles on the front page, I figured I'd just post this to help with the hype.

The final thread about CJ v R2 Winner will be on the front page and written by me with similar graphic structure.
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Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
March 19 2009 23:20 GMT
#29
I think the coach did the right move calling JD up first. He can only be "sniped" on colleseum II and perhaps destination but his stats on those two maps are fairly impressive. Same with the first 4 maps. The last 3 is favoured for Flas but the first 4 is in favour for JD. I think that the coach thinks that this is the best chance to win by giving JD an advantage if he has to face Flash. This puts pressure on JD because he has to commit an All Kill otherwise his team is in a troublesome position. I also think that Forgg presence on the KTF team is overstated since he is plainly in terrible shape right now and i would consider him a non factor in this match up and chances are if he was put up to play, I think the Oz coach knows what to expect from ForGG and chances are he has a strategy set up up ForGG and make him an easy win for Oz.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
March 19 2009 23:40 GMT
#30
If you look at the map %s vt its very clear why JD is up first, only position where he has a good chance at 2 kills.
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Alsar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States130 Posts
March 20 2009 00:21 GMT
#31
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I want OZ to win but then I don't know if I could bear watching OZ vs CJ in the finals, I'd be too torn.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
March 20 2009 00:38 GMT
#32
I have to say, KTF team photos always look pretty awful. Get the Oz photographer to photograph KTF.

I don't care if JD has 80% ZvZ and Hoejja has looked pathetic in the few ZvZs he's played. It will be a Hoejja all-kill!
fiRe)HappyZerg
Profile Joined April 2008
Ukraine277 Posts
March 20 2009 00:49 GMT
#33
Backho will rape everyone who dares to snipe Jaedong -_-
Happy me, happy skill, happy win :D
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 01:03:23
March 20 2009 00:54 GMT
#34
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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
March 20 2009 01:14 GMT
#35
OZ is in for a tough match. If JD doesn't pull some magic, they'll lose for sure. Flash, Luxury and Forgg make a sick lineup to beat..
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 01:39:08
March 20 2009 01:37 GMT
#36
Such a poor decision sending your ace out first. But I think there really was no better choice. Regardless when Oz sends JD, he will be playing on RH3 and potentially 1 or more anti-ZvT maps. Say Oz saved him until:

Set2: JD plays on SCPR, RH3
Set3: JD plays on SCPR, RH3
Set4: JD plays on RH3, Desti
Set5: JD plays on Desti. I assume from this point on, Hiya squeaks in a win but, I don't see any other player able to get 2 kills on KTF. This throws Set6/7 out of the equation because Oz will have lost by then.

KTF will for sure have at least 1 sniper for JD in case Hoejja loses. Also, SCPR, RH3, Desti are horrid maps for zerg against KTF's two terrans, Flash/ForGG. Then again, if there is anyone who can overcome map imbalances, its JD/Flash/Bisu/etc.

I don't factor any other Oz players because I don't have any confidence in the rest of their team. I personally dislike Hiya, despite his performance. I just feel on "godlike days" Lux, ForGG, Flash, JD are the only players playing this match who are capable of AK-ing the opposing team. After JD, Oz doesn't have anyone capable of AK-ing KTF's team.

This is how Oz wins:
1) JD AK
2) JD 3-kill, and pray Hiya can take a game off Flash / Lux, who has potential to play lights-out any given day

KTF wins:
1) JD 2-kill
2) Flash Reverse AK
3) Lux Reverse AK

I personally liquibetted KTF. Flash comes out early and destroys everything, reserving Lux for Ace match if it gets that far. But I would not be surprised at all if JD wins this by himself for Oz. Key player is Jaedong. 3 Kills+ or go home.
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Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
March 20 2009 02:00 GMT
#37
yep, i have to agree totally with JL13.. pretty good analysis

definitely the key player is jaedong. Although if its him vs flash, I would bank on flash.. his TvZ lately has looked as good as ever. maybe Flash 60% > JD 40%

If Flash wins, i think he'll go on to get an all-kill..

I also think that lomo or hiya's TVT isln't good enough to take flash down.



Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
oneill
Profile Joined August 2004
Philippines278 Posts
March 20 2009 02:36 GMT
#38
OZ wants an all kill thats why they put Jaedong upfront
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
March 20 2009 02:51 GMT
#39
jaedong allkill.

oz autovote
zzz
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 04:30:36
March 20 2009 04:30 GMT
#40
On March 19 2009 22:58 ssystem wrote:
Awesome OP.

BTW ForGG is in both team pictures

he has the same "backstabber" expression too LOL
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