EPT[WL] Playoffs: KTF vs SKT - Page 3
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 14 2009 05:22 miseiler wrote: Best? Really? I think firefist could beat best. In his sleep. On fire. Without a keyboard. Fantasy I'll give you, though I'm not sure his recent success is due to ridiculous preparation (and iloveoov) or actual skill. 815 vs Bisu should be epic. We need more macro zergs. Firefist lost to Backho. On Tears of the Moon. Here's hoping 815 can pretend Andromeda is Blue Storm and actually win a game. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On March 14 2009 05:49 JWD wrote: Alright, I'm going to make some non-ridiculous predictions for this match: These predictions are highly dependent on Lux and Flash losing quick. If Lux survives Bisu, I expect fantasy to come out and take him on Chupung, but then lose to Flash on RH3 (who then eats it to BeSt on Colosseum). These are the most likely matchups for us to see:  Luxury vs.  Bisu on Destination Flash vs. fantasy OR Canata on RH3BeSt vs. Flash on ColosseumWell only that first one's gonna happen, cause my non-ridiculous predictions have Bisu rocking everything in his path. One man wrecking ball's gonna take down all of KTF. Not even Flash can stop him. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 14 2009 06:10 Roffles wrote: Well only that first one's gonna happen, cause my non-ridiculous predictions have Bisu rocking everything in his path. One man wrecking ball's gonna take down all of KTF. Not even Flash can stop him. I think Bisu is good enough to beat anyone on KTF's roster in a Bo5 quite easily, but these games are not best-of-fives and there is a serious practice level imbalance at play here: Bisu has been preparing for OSL and has to focus on several maps and opponents if he wants to all-kill, while KTF can have a few of its players practicing almost exclusively to beat Bisu (Flash especially). Practice imbalance + map imbalance = likelihood of Bisu all-kill is extremely small right now. | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Go Flash! | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On March 14 2009 06:17 JWD wrote: I think Bisu is good enough to beat anyone on KTF's roster in a Bo5 quite easily, but these games are not best-of-fives and there is a serious practice level imbalance at play here: Bisu has been preparing for OSL and has to focus on several maps and opponents if he wants to all-kill, while KTF can have a few of its players practicing almost exclusively to beat Bisu (Flash especially). Practice imbalance + map imbalance = likelihood of Bisu all-kill is extremely small right now. What is with you and your logic man, get that out of here! I agree though, KTF has enough depth that an all-kill from Bisu is rather unlikely. This match will hinge heavily on how well Luxury performs so ... KTF is screwed, you lose KTF. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
 Hope to see Flash ripping SKT1 one after the other. Knowing Flash he really wants his revenge on both BeSt and Bisu. And I have a feeling he shall get both | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 14 2009 06:56 Lebesgue wrote: Flash (and Lux) will bring this home Hope to see Flash ripping SKT1 one after the other. Knowing Flash he really wants his revenge on both BeSt and Bisu. And I have a feeling he shall get both Good point about the revenge factor: Bisu kicked Flash out of GOM S2, and BeSt kicked him out of the OSL. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
random ktf chump ftw. like.... 815<bisu Tempest>bisu Tempest>fantasy Tempest>Best Tempest>Oov | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On March 14 2009 04:56 JWD wrote: ...he's not playing in this match. In fact, he's not even on KTF yet (his career there begins after this match). Like that matters. Pffft. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2397 Posts
iloveoovfantasy was gonna beat Luxury i wouldnt count out on SKT sending out oov or boxer if they have the match fairly secure | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On March 13 2009 15:41 Fontong wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9445/umm1ak9.jpg) Isn't that Midas? | ||
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
However if bisu takes out both lux and 815, he will then probably lose to flash, but then flash basically has to all kill against both canata and fantasy (both with good TvT) and for some reason best can sometimes beat flash although it is dumb when he does. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 14 2009 11:24 writer22816 wrote: Sending Bisu first really hurt SKT's chances at this imo Why? The Protoss-friendly maps fall in sets 1, 2, 5, and 7. So T1 definitely wants to send out a Protoss for the first set. If they send BeSt, a) he is likely to have to PvZ on Andromeda, which KTF will almost 100% play a Zerg on since they have no good Protosses, and b) he is 100% guaranteed to have to PvZ on Destination, since it's Z>P and a good place for KTF to play Luxury. So essentially, BeSt in the 1set would mean he goes 0-1 or, super optimistically, 1-1. Neither situation is good for T1. Then, consider the fact that, with sets 3 and 4 being Terran heavens, set 5 on Colosseum is almost guaranteed to be a PvT - BeSt's best matchup on his best map. And, by this point T1 will in all likelihood be facing Flash. BeSt vs. Flash on Colosseum is T1's dream. Basically, BeSt fits WAY better in the later sets of this match. This alone means that Bisu is the smart choice for the 1set. Bisu can PvZ on Andromeda and Destination (keep in mind ZvP is Lux's weak suit) and then make a decent run at Flash on Chupung (a map he practiced PvT to all-kill WeMade last week. He beat Mind there). Worst case, Bisu loses in an upset to Lux on Destination - that's still as good as the best case if T1 had played BeSt in the 1set. Playing Bisu first is also good psychological warfare - he's coming off of a match where he all-killed from the opening position. T1 knows KTF would be practicing all-out vs. Protoss for this match anyway, so why "hide" Bisu for later sets? It just wouldn't make sense. Especially given the map pool considerations I mentioned above. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On March 14 2009 12:33 dekuschrub wrote: for some reason best can sometimes beat flash although it is dumb when he does. BeSt is 2-0 lifetime vs. Flash, and played brilliantly both games. They were also both quite entertaining! Edit: I should really give up trying to point out totally incorrect posts in LR threads, there's just too many of them  | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Once fOrGG joins KTF they're a lock for proleague finals, basically. SKT1 and KTF will have the 3 strongest players of any team, which is enough for the regular PL format. | ||
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