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Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
March 15 2009 07:36 GMT
#2021
On March 15 2009 16:19 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:19 Shikyo wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:15 Kentor wrote:
what the fuck should best have done then?

7+ cannons -> dt

yep. people from live report threads aren't very smart


To be honest, it doesn't really matter how many cannons best builds, as long as he holds of luxury's two hatch he can pretty much do just about anything to win. I think in a match like that best needed to have a total of four cannons before his corsair comes out. When his corsair comes out, he can scout and cancel those warping in cannons if he can.
안녕하세요~~
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:43:02
March 15 2009 07:42 GMT
#2022
On March 15 2009 16:35 Scaramanga wrote:
iirc forgg cant play till the end of the playoffs, its untill he's offically added to the roster which happens like everymonth


nope he can start to play after 15th.
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:44:39
March 15 2009 07:44 GMT
#2023
On March 15 2009 16:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:19 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:18 BlackMagister wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:14 Shengster wrote:
Wonder if Luxury's back is hurting because he definitely carried KTF to victory!


Hey don't forget Hoejja!!! He definitely deserves kodos for beating Bisu and Canata.

Forgg can't play until the end of the playoffs. Am i correct?

no. Sigh at your posts... ForGG is officially a part of the line-up right now.

no, he can't play until end of playoffs, according to the translated newspost. you really shouldn't make fun of people until you get all your information right
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Fobbish
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Korea (South)1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:46:36
March 15 2009 07:46 GMT
#2024
i dont know who translated it but

한편 박지수의 입단식은 MSL 결승 및 위너스리그 포스트시즌 준비로 인해 내부 행사로 진행 될 예정이며, 박지수는 오는 15일 신한은행 위너스 리그 준플레이오프 팬미팅 인사를 시작으로 공식적인 활동을 시작한다.

it says he is officially part of ktf after march 15.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93731&db=issue&cate=&page=2&field=&kwrd=
강함은 타고나는 것이 아니라 만들어 지는 것이다! - 외인구단
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 15 2009 07:47 GMT
#2025
On March 15 2009 16:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:22 Shikyo wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:19 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:18 BlackMagister wrote:
On March 15 2009 16:14 Shengster wrote:
Wonder if Luxury's back is hurting because he definitely carried KTF to victory!


Hey don't forget Hoejja!!! He definitely deserves kodos for beating Bisu and Canata.

Forgg can't play until the end of the playoffs. Am i correct?

no. Sigh at your posts... ForGG is officially a part of the line-up right now.

no, he can't play until end of playoffs, according to the translated newspost. you really shouldn't make fun of people until you get all your information right


WHICH IS IT?!? Don't get my hopes up on a ForGG vz Oz match!
immacolate
Profile Joined February 2009
Serbia199 Posts
March 15 2009 07:49 GMT
#2026
you are getting your hopes up about ForGG who was just raped by (pretty average) Stork a few days ago?

good luck
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:54:38
March 15 2009 07:51 GMT
#2027
On March 15 2009 16:49 immacolate wrote:
you are getting your hopes up about ForGG who was just raped by (pretty average) Stork a few days ago?

good luck


I'm more interested in the novelty of the whole thing then the actual result. Though Stork vs ForGG was TvP and ForGG doesn't have to worry about Protoss when up against Oz.

ForGG has beaten Jaedong and Hiya the best players on Oz and seems to bear a grudge vs Oz. So some the best sort of drama you can get in pro SC.
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:53:16
March 15 2009 07:52 GMT
#2028
from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview)
- 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지
▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다.
-are you considering using forgg for the playoffs?
forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg
(worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-15 07:55:03
March 15 2009 07:54 GMT
#2029
fOrGG will take down HiyA, Jaedong and Lomo only to be stopped by the hO
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
March 15 2009 07:55 GMT
#2030
Best's probe micro was atrocious. His probes just hung out at or behind the cannons while the hydras took down the zealots and cannons. It was pathetic.

Not to mention how quickly he lost his initial probe scout. That was just sad, and even worse was that he didn't attempt to scout afterwards. I mean it's LUXURY! He should have known how important it is to scout Luxury to make sure he doesn't try any all-in or cheese-worthy builds. Considering Luxury was attacking the temples with his lings, Best could easily have gotten a scout far enough to spot the hydras and lack of expansions.

Just as bad was how long it took him to discover the temples were being attacked. Luxury had taken out 6 temples by the time he put down a pylon near them. That's why Best had to bring his dragoon over, because the cannon wouldn't warp in in time. With that dragoon and better probe micro, it's feasible best could have held off against the hydra push.

But you know what?

He had no confidence after failing so miserably against Bisu in the OSL. When you're nervous, with all the pressure of the final game on you, you're prone to making really bad mistakes.
Moo
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
March 15 2009 08:03 GMT
#2031
102 pages... if I hadn't watched the games I would have assumed that savior got traded to KTF for a day and there was a bisu vs savior game.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
March 15 2009 08:09 GMT
#2032
On March 15 2009 17:03 iPF[Div] wrote:
102 pages... if I hadn't watched the games I would have assumed that savior got traded to KTF for a day and there was a bisu vs savior game.



playoffs baby
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 15 2009 08:11 GMT
#2033
On March 15 2009 16:55 latent wrote:
Best's probe micro was atrocious. His probes just hung out at or behind the cannons while the hydras took down the zealots and cannons. It was pathetic.

Not to mention how quickly he lost his initial probe scout. That was just sad, and even worse was that he didn't attempt to scout afterwards. I mean it's LUXURY! He should have known how important it is to scout Luxury to make sure he doesn't try any all-in or cheese-worthy builds. Considering Luxury was attacking the temples with his lings, Best could easily have gotten a scout far enough to spot the hydras and lack of expansions.

Just as bad was how long it took him to discover the temples were being attacked. Luxury had taken out 6 temples by the time he put down a pylon near them. That's why Best had to bring his dragoon over, because the cannon wouldn't warp in in time. With that dragoon and better probe micro, it's feasible best could have held off against the hydra push.

But you know what?

He had no confidence after failing so miserably against Bisu in the OSL. When you're nervous, with all the pressure of the final game on you, you're prone to making really bad mistakes.


I'm a massive BeSt fan, and even I agree all of this is true. BeSt definitely could have done several things better to fend off the all-in...but IMO his biggest mistake was expecting Luxury to play straight up.
✌
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
March 15 2009 08:13 GMT
#2034
I'm scared.
http://www.fomos.kr/board/photo/1237104449_1.jpg
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
immacolate
Profile Joined February 2009
Serbia199 Posts
March 15 2009 08:13 GMT
#2035
On March 15 2009 16:51 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:49 immacolate wrote:
you are getting your hopes up about ForGG who was just raped by (pretty average) Stork a few days ago?

good luck


I'm more interested in the novelty of the whole thing then the actual result. Though Stork vs ForGG was TvP and ForGG doesn't have to worry about Protoss when up against Oz.

ForGG has beaten Jaedong and Hiya the best players on Oz and seems to bear a grudge vs Oz. So some the best sort of drama you can get in pro SC.


what about backho omg?

(just kidding, I understand your point, it could be interesting, but I just don't know if forGG is good enough, regardless of the matchup)
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
March 15 2009 08:14 GMT
#2036
On March 15 2009 16:34 latent wrote:
I feel sick.

Need a medic!


Go to anyone but Canata.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
March 15 2009 08:19 GMT
#2037
On March 15 2009 16:52 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview)
- 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지
▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다.
-are you considering using forgg for the playoffs?
forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg
(worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)


Thanks for the translation.

If ForGG manages to snipe Jaedong, the Oz coach should just resign. I mean, nothing wrong with trading away the 3rd Terran on your depth chart. But doing it to a potential playoff opponent?

If nothing else, ForGG should give KTF players tons of insights into Oz players' tendencies. Which could be crucial.
Meh
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
March 15 2009 08:20 GMT
#2038
On March 15 2009 17:14 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:34 latent wrote:
I feel sick.

Need a medic!


Go to anyone but Canata.


he'll just run them to a ramp and leave you and your buddies to die.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
March 15 2009 08:23 GMT
#2039
On March 15 2009 17:19 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2009 16:52 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview)
- 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지
▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다.
-are you considering using forgg for the playoffs?
forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg
(worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)


Thanks for the translation.

If ForGG manages to snipe Jaedong, the Oz coach should just resign. I mean, nothing wrong with trading away the 3rd Terran on your depth chart. But doing it to a potential playoff opponent?

If nothing else, ForGG should give KTF players tons of insights into Oz players' tendencies. Which could be crucial.


That's completely unfair. Hopefully ForGG is noble enough to not give away his teammates secrets, at least not so soon.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
March 15 2009 08:24 GMT
#2040
So I opened up the "all pages" button, scrolled down to 815 vs Bisu, saw that Bisu won, was like



then saw hoejja dismantle Bisu on Desti, in a sick game, was like



then saw hoejja dismantle Canata and was like



then saw Fantasy beat Hoejja and was still like



scrolled down to where flash went 14cc



saw that the thread was like 3/4ths over and instinctively knew what was coming... was like



Then I scrolled down some more and saw everyone making "best = worst" jokes and was like



Then scrolled up and saw Lux's game and was



Thank you Luxury. Go KTF!
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