On March 15 2009 16:15 Kentor wrote: what the fuck should best have done then?
7+ cannons -> dt
yep. people from live report threads aren't very smart
To be honest, it doesn't really matter how many cannons best builds, as long as he holds of luxury's two hatch he can pretty much do just about anything to win. I think in a match like that best needed to have a total of four cannons before his corsair comes out. When his corsair comes out, he can scout and cancel those warping in cannons if he can.
On March 15 2009 16:35 Scaramanga wrote: iirc forgg cant play till the end of the playoffs, its untill he's offically added to the roster which happens like everymonth
On March 15 2009 16:14 Shengster wrote: Wonder if Luxury's back is hurting because he definitely carried KTF to victory!
Hey don't forget Hoejja!!! He definitely deserves kodos for beating Bisu and Canata.
Forgg can't play until the end of the playoffs. Am i correct?
no. Sigh at your posts... ForGG is officially a part of the line-up right now.
no, he can't play until end of playoffs, according to the translated newspost. you really shouldn't make fun of people until you get all your information right
On March 15 2009 16:14 Shengster wrote: Wonder if Luxury's back is hurting because he definitely carried KTF to victory!
Hey don't forget Hoejja!!! He definitely deserves kodos for beating Bisu and Canata.
Forgg can't play until the end of the playoffs. Am i correct?
no. Sigh at your posts... ForGG is officially a part of the line-up right now.
no, he can't play until end of playoffs, according to the translated newspost. you really shouldn't make fun of people until you get all your information right
WHICH IS IT?!? Don't get my hopes up on a ForGG vz Oz match!
On March 15 2009 16:49 immacolate wrote: you are getting your hopes up about ForGG who was just raped by (pretty average) Stork a few days ago?
good luck
I'm more interested in the novelty of the whole thing then the actual result. Though Stork vs ForGG was TvP and ForGG doesn't have to worry about Protoss when up against Oz.
ForGG has beaten Jaedong and Hiya the best players on Oz and seems to bear a grudge vs Oz. So some the best sort of drama you can get in pro SC.
from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview) - 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지 ▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다. -are you considering using forgg for the playoffs? forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg (worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)
Best's probe micro was atrocious. His probes just hung out at or behind the cannons while the hydras took down the zealots and cannons. It was pathetic.
Not to mention how quickly he lost his initial probe scout. That was just sad, and even worse was that he didn't attempt to scout afterwards. I mean it's LUXURY! He should have known how important it is to scout Luxury to make sure he doesn't try any all-in or cheese-worthy builds. Considering Luxury was attacking the temples with his lings, Best could easily have gotten a scout far enough to spot the hydras and lack of expansions.
Just as bad was how long it took him to discover the temples were being attacked. Luxury had taken out 6 temples by the time he put down a pylon near them. That's why Best had to bring his dragoon over, because the cannon wouldn't warp in in time. With that dragoon and better probe micro, it's feasible best could have held off against the hydra push.
But you know what?
He had no confidence after failing so miserably against Bisu in the OSL. When you're nervous, with all the pressure of the final game on you, you're prone to making really bad mistakes.
On March 15 2009 17:03 iPF[Div] wrote: 102 pages... if I hadn't watched the games I would have assumed that savior got traded to KTF for a day and there was a bisu vs savior game.
On March 15 2009 16:55 latent wrote: Best's probe micro was atrocious. His probes just hung out at or behind the cannons while the hydras took down the zealots and cannons. It was pathetic.
Not to mention how quickly he lost his initial probe scout. That was just sad, and even worse was that he didn't attempt to scout afterwards. I mean it's LUXURY! He should have known how important it is to scout Luxury to make sure he doesn't try any all-in or cheese-worthy builds. Considering Luxury was attacking the temples with his lings, Best could easily have gotten a scout far enough to spot the hydras and lack of expansions.
Just as bad was how long it took him to discover the temples were being attacked. Luxury had taken out 6 temples by the time he put down a pylon near them. That's why Best had to bring his dragoon over, because the cannon wouldn't warp in in time. With that dragoon and better probe micro, it's feasible best could have held off against the hydra push.
But you know what?
He had no confidence after failing so miserably against Bisu in the OSL. When you're nervous, with all the pressure of the final game on you, you're prone to making really bad mistakes.
I'm a massive BeSt fan, and even I agree all of this is true. BeSt definitely could have done several things better to fend off the all-in...but IMO his biggest mistake was expecting Luxury to play straight up.
On March 15 2009 16:49 immacolate wrote: you are getting your hopes up about ForGG who was just raped by (pretty average) Stork a few days ago?
good luck
I'm more interested in the novelty of the whole thing then the actual result. Though Stork vs ForGG was TvP and ForGG doesn't have to worry about Protoss when up against Oz.
ForGG has beaten Jaedong and Hiya the best players on Oz and seems to bear a grudge vs Oz. So some the best sort of drama you can get in pro SC.
what about backho omg?
(just kidding, I understand your point, it could be interesting, but I just don't know if forGG is good enough, regardless of the matchup)
On March 15 2009 16:52 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote: from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview) - 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지 ▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다. -are you considering using forgg for the playoffs? forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg (worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)
Thanks for the translation.
If ForGG manages to snipe Jaedong, the Oz coach should just resign. I mean, nothing wrong with trading away the 3rd Terran on your depth chart. But doing it to a potential playoff opponent?
If nothing else, ForGG should give KTF players tons of insights into Oz players' tendencies. Which could be crucial.
On March 15 2009 16:52 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote: from interview with ktf coach posted just now on fomos: (http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=93787&db=interview) - 플레이오프서 박지수의 출전을 염두 해두고 있는지 ▲ 처음 연습실에 합류했는데 실력이 정말 출중하더라. 생각했던 것보다 만족스러운 영입이다. 경쟁을 통해서 엔트리에 들어야 하지만 큰 이변이 없으면 출전하게 될 것 같다. 이번만큼은 욕심을 내서 박지수 선수의 출전까지 고려해볼 것이다. -are you considering using forgg for the playoffs? forgg played very well in practice. was a better trade than i thought it would be. he'd have to get in the entry after getting through team competition, but if nothing goes wrong, he should be able to play. im going to be greedy this time and consider sending forgg (worded badly, but the basic idea is that forgg can play in the playoffs game)
Thanks for the translation.
If ForGG manages to snipe Jaedong, the Oz coach should just resign. I mean, nothing wrong with trading away the 3rd Terran on your depth chart. But doing it to a potential playoff opponent?
If nothing else, ForGG should give KTF players tons of insights into Oz players' tendencies. Which could be crucial.
That's completely unfair. Hopefully ForGG is noble enough to not give away his teammates secrets, at least not so soon.