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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
February 19 2009 12:47 GMT
#1461
On February 19 2009 21:44 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 21:41 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
One day hwasin one day really you will win msl


it's ok, hwasin is destined to win the OSL. this MSL is to be decided between savior and nada!

Yeah!!
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 19 2009 12:49 GMT
#1462
On February 19 2009 21:38 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 21:36 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On February 19 2009 21:34 .risingdragoon wrote:
On February 19 2009 21:30 ZoW wrote:
You guys. I just realized something.

Savior was the only one today who didn't lose to cheese.

Yea, cus savior was the one who cheesed.

Along with everyone else who lost game 2.


overpool isn't cheesing.....

in a tvz? what year is this for you, 03?

it's a huge gamble to open 9pool speed

It was a 9pool. And it's 2009, and if you haven't noticed, 9pools are getting a looot more common in ZvT.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
February 19 2009 12:50 GMT
#1463
On February 19 2009 21:44 .risingdragoon wrote:
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On February 19 2009 21:41 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On February 19 2009 21:40 ZoW wrote:
I don't mind if people disagree, but I think 2 hatch lurk is pretty cheesy. Usually hit or miss, if it fails your pretty screwed....

That's just my opinion though.


cheesy=/=risky

that is exactly what cheese is

an early attack meant to end things fast that takes a huge risk, depending on the mu and map the risk goes up and down slightly but it's still cheese


mmhmm. and what about all the variations after 9pool? 9pool isn't necessarily always for ending the game early. sure, you can apply a lot of pressure early on, to the point where it ends the game, but it's not like you're totally fucked if you don't succeed
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
February 19 2009 12:52 GMT
#1464
9 pool is not cheese, 5 pool is.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
February 19 2009 12:53 GMT
#1465
overpool is cheese

it fell out of use long time ago in standard tvz which adds to the cheesy factor
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Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
February 19 2009 12:53 GMT
#1466
On February 19 2009 21:44 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 21:41 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On February 19 2009 21:40 ZoW wrote:
I don't mind if people disagree, but I think 2 hatch lurk is pretty cheesy. Usually hit or miss, if it fails your pretty screwed....

That's just my opinion though.


cheesy=/=risky

that is exactly what cheese is

an early attack meant to end things fast that takes a huge risk, depending on the mu and map the risk goes up and down slightly but it's still cheese

and that's what happened every single series

all bo have their risk, 9 pool and 14 nex all have risk

so all BO are cheese?

hmmm NOOOOT

cheese = a strategy that would only work in one situation DO or DIE.

9 pool is not cheese. 2 hatch lurk is not cheese ffs. 14nex 14cc is not cheese (but is a greedy opening)
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 19 2009 12:53 GMT
#1467
And would you call 2 hatch lurker into contain into double expand with mass drone into lurkerling defiler a cheese? Seriously, when will 2rax expand be called a cheese? Or a 2 fac rush? Is that called cheese already? Or a 2gate before nexus in PvT? Seeriously....
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 19 2009 12:55 GMT
#1468
.risingdragoon you cannot be serious in calling an overpool build a cheese.

a cheese is always risky.
a risky build is not always a cheese.
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darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
February 19 2009 12:57 GMT
#1469
What the ..

Flash's ELO got updated after MSL but his game with Best hasn't. I wonder why ??
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 13:08:48
February 19 2009 13:06 GMT
#1470
terrible msl today

seriously pathetic
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 19 2009 13:16 GMT
#1471
On February 19 2009 21:53 .risingdragoon wrote:
overpool is cheese

it fell out of use long time ago in standard tvz which adds to the cheesy factor


lol
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
February 19 2009 13:22 GMT
#1472
LOLOLOLOLOL....

DID NO ONE WATCH EACH OTHER'S GAME THREE'S
[Borg]Psycho
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany27 Posts
February 19 2009 13:22 GMT
#1473
cheese = allin?
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 19 2009 13:26 GMT
#1474
At least some of the VODS will be quite short
Brood War loyalist
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
February 19 2009 13:32 GMT
#1475
risingdragoon's posts aren't worth dignifying with responses. The dude consistently posts rubbish.

It should be pretty clear that a 9 pool or overpool is far from cheese, as it can offer early aggression and even inflict some substantial damage early on depending on the opponent's build, as well as protect against cheesy rushes.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
February 19 2009 13:42 GMT
#1476
The liquibet results seem to be confused...
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
February 19 2009 13:49 GMT
#1477
oh noes free T_T
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 13:52:10
February 19 2009 13:51 GMT
#1478
On February 19 2009 22:42 Nitan wrote:
The liquibet results seem to be confused...


Was about to say the same thing... Right now I have 2 wrong instead of just 1 in Liquibet (damn you free, breaking my 11 correct votes in a row like that ).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
February 19 2009 13:52 GMT
#1479
<3<3 all my hated players have gotten eliminated

actually would've rather had hwasin move on but that guy never gets out of ro16 anyway

savior vs yarnc next ^^
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 13:55:25
February 19 2009 13:54 GMT
#1480
On February 19 2009 22:42 Nitan wrote:
The liquibet results seem to be confused...


On February 19 2009 20:49 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 20:47 Samurai- wrote:
CAN I MENTION MBCGame
Lost Saga MSL 2009 Round of 16 Day 2-1 LIQUIDBET IS A COMPLETE FAIL...

upmagic didnt win savior, and hwasin didnt win luxury.. saying this was for game 2 only is a complete fail.. Lb should be for who wins best of 2 anyway..

It lists a single map underneath.

I didn't add them myself, but nowhere does it mention a "best of" and if there were it would have begin at Week 1-1, not 2-1

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