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Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
February 20 2009 03:52 GMT
#1621
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 04:35:56
February 20 2009 04:34 GMT
#1622
Man this totally blows. 2 days ago flash was unquestionably the best player in the world, fucking DESTROYING everyone he played. Now he's out of both leagues waaaay too early for his skill level. Especially the MSL with JD and Bisu out, it was his for the taking, but now another "not flash/jaedong/bisu" will win and likely never accomplish anything again(like forgg)

I dunno what it is, but starleagues are just so much more interesting with flash and JD in them, prob because you know that they are much more likely to repeat their runs compared to just about everyone else.

At least we will probably see a Yarnc/Lux semi final lol
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 20 2009 04:44 GMT
#1623
On February 20 2009 12:52 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.

Leta is great because:

His win record is simply incredible. 65% overall after soon 90 games is awesome. It really doesn't matter how you twist and turn it, it is awesome. He's lost 4 straight games lately, but to find 2 straight losses before that we have to go way back in time. Fact; his stats are amazing.

But, as some people like to point out; stats without context is worthless. One might argue that he has only beaten a shitload of bad players. Well, last time I checked Kal, Stork, Bisu, Best, Forgg, FBH, Sea, Hwasin, Upmagic, Mind, Free, Luxury, Savior, Flash, for example, aren't bad. So, he's capable of taking down really good players.

However, one might continue to argue that he is not a really great player until he beats good players in BOx and performs well in individual leagues. He might be the next Sea! :O Well, by sending the great Flash out of the MSL in a BO3 (cheese or not doesn't really matter whatsoever; it's a strategy as valid as all the others), propelling himself into Round of 8 (which he will most certainly reach in OSL as well) he has achieved more than Sea has ever done in the major tourneys, and IMO proven that he is indeed more than ''the next Sea''. Round of 8 in both leagues is not easy to accomplish, JD, Flash, Bisu etc weren't able to this season. So I do not think there's much you might say to argue against Leta's greatness anymore. Go Leta!

And, yes, it sucks that Flash is out.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 05:02:15
February 20 2009 05:01 GMT
#1624
On February 20 2009 12:52 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.
HEY GUYS WATCHING THE VODS IS GREAT RIGHT? I THINK SO.

There's nobody who would say the second game is cheese.

1st game: 14cc cheese(?) from Flash
2nd game: No cheese, and Leta won
3rd game: BBS from Leta


In that case, Leta won the only truly "standard" game they had.

l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-20 05:33:44
February 20 2009 05:31 GMT
#1625
On February 20 2009 12:52 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.


Leta is awesome. He might be doing badly recently, but he beat flash in a standard game in set 2. He just won the mindgame in set 3, obviously he thought flash would go standardly, since its the last game, which he did. Props to him for cheesing sucessfully!
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
February 20 2009 08:19 GMT
#1626
On February 20 2009 14:01 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 12:52 Shiznick wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.
HEY GUYS WATCHING THE VODS IS GREAT RIGHT? I THINK SO.

There's nobody who would say the second game is cheese.

1st game: 14cc cheese(?) from Flash
2nd game: No cheese, and Leta won
3rd game: BBS from Leta


In that case, Leta won the only truly "standard" game they had.



did you just say 14cc is cheese wtf?
Xellos <3
RivetHead
Profile Joined March 2005
United States842 Posts
February 20 2009 23:52 GMT
#1627
On February 20 2009 17:19 iloveHieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 14:01 Zozma wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:52 Shiznick wrote:
On February 20 2009 12:44 Holgerius wrote:
I really do not know whether to laugh or cry at the irony of Flash fanboys whining and saying things like ''Die Leta, you cheesy bastard!'' because Flash is cheesed out of MSL.

I also do not know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that Leta won and Flash was knocked out. I'm a huge Leta fan, so to see him beat the (arguably) best player in the world in a BO3 was amazing. I do not think there can be any doubt of Leta greatness any more. He might very well win a Starleague this season. Go Leta! On the other hand, Flash did not deserve to be eliminated this early on. And in both Starleagues! WTF? IMO he could've won both of them if it wasn't for WL. It was really saddening to se him after the game. Let's just hope he doesn't get too mentally broken and goes into slump-mode. Without any individual leagues to think about he should be able to rack up a decent amount of all-kills in WL. Go Flash!

I don't really see how this proves Leta is great. He has been doing poorly recently, but two games of cheese against a good player make it all okay?

Also, it is absolute bullshit that Flash has been eliminated from both starleagues already. Flash looks absolutely overwhelming right now, but there is nothing to test his mettle.
HEY GUYS WATCHING THE VODS IS GREAT RIGHT? I THINK SO.

There's nobody who would say the second game is cheese.

1st game: 14cc cheese(?) from Flash
2nd game: No cheese, and Leta won
3rd game: BBS from Leta


In that case, Leta won the only truly "standard" game they had.



did you just say 14cc is cheese wtf?


lol you missed the previous 5 pages of discussion.
I *heart* bisu, nada, mind, and the lakers
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
February 21 2009 19:56 GMT
#1628
Oh shit fucking awful results. I really feel bad for Flash, he really might slump for a little while. It has come to the point where either KTFs cheap-ass management brings some quality to the team or Flash is going to want to move to another team. Dunno, I heard SKT has lots of moneys and a great terran tradition, plus x1000 more trophies and better training partners.
candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
February 22 2009 19:35 GMT
#1629
More like Leta kicked Flash in the nuts and advanced. That was some shit.
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