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OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
February 19 2009 10:22 GMT
#561
I wonder if Leta ever got it on with the Ragnarok girl.
I like to think he already got her pregnant.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
astalkulo
Profile Joined October 2007
United States444 Posts
February 19 2009 10:22 GMT
#562
Was Flash cleaning the keyboard?
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
February 19 2009 10:23 GMT
#563
If game 2 had been a little closer I think it would feel a little different. If game 2 hadn't been so one-sided the reaction probably would have felt more like "Savior scout hax, perfect build, vintage Maestro mind games" but man, game 2 makes it really hard to feel that way.
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
February 19 2009 10:23 GMT
#564
bisu build is cheese imo
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
February 19 2009 10:23 GMT
#565
On February 19 2009 19:21 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 19:18 o3.power91 wrote:
seriously... why do people call any non 12 hatch/nex before gate cheese -_-
its like saying no units before expo is the only way to play straight up


Stop.

I don't think anyone actually called 9-pool a cheese.

On February 19 2009 19:08 DM20 wrote:
Its funny because if this was the other way around people would be crying cheese.

LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
February 19 2009 10:23 GMT
#566
ok i like flash and leta and everything but i REALLY want to have this series end quickly so i can watch hwasin vs luxury which is imo the matchup of the night.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
February 19 2009 10:23 GMT
#567
btw this is my favorite tvt map of all time!
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#568
On February 19 2009 19:23 x89titan wrote:
bisu build is cheese imo

lol
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#569
On February 19 2009 19:23 darktreb wrote:
If game 2 had been a little closer I think it would feel a little different. If game 2 hadn't been so one-sided the reaction probably would have felt more like "Savior scout hax, perfect build, vintage Maestro mind games" but man, game 2 makes it really hard to feel that way.


True that, it's like savior didn't deserve his win.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#570
On February 19 2009 19:15 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 19:11 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On February 19 2009 19:09 Ecael wrote:
On February 19 2009 19:08 DM20 wrote:
Its funny because if this was the other way around people would be crying cheese.

You think so? imo calling this luck is far worse than cheese, the latter at least implied some kind of preparation, luck is just, well, dumb luck. Shit happened and he randomly wins without even having done anything real to merit it.

?

It's not like savior flipped a coin before the match. It was his plan to go 9 pool, we aren't clear on the reasons behind it. It was fortunate but its not pure luck.

?

I agree with that, I simply thought that labeling the 9pool as luck makes it appear that he did just flip a coin when this could have been a calculated gamble.

I'd say it was a calculated gamble from up. It was a 33% chance that savior would scout his build, providing that he would send his OL in the direction of an expansion. He probably also thought there was a possibility that he wouldn't 9pool.
But, savior got the position up least wanted, with the build most dangerous for him. Up lost his gamble due to poor luck, and savior got a boring win based on his buildorder.
1000 at least.
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#571
On February 19 2009 19:23 LosingID8 wrote:
ok i like flash and leta and everything but i REALLY want to have this series end quickly so i can watch hwasin vs luxury which is imo the matchup of the night.

As much as I agree with you, this is TvT. We're gonna be lucky if it ends under and hour.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#572
On February 19 2009 19:23 LosingID8 wrote:
ok i like flash and leta and everything but i REALLY want to have this series end quickly so i can watch hwasin vs luxury which is imo the matchup of the night.



It has the potential to be mind blowing.


Luxury keeps saying in interviews that he is really working on his lategame management play.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 19 2009 10:24 GMT
#573
Lawl, looks like network problems for Flash.
Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 10:25:51
February 19 2009 10:25 GMT
#574
On February 19 2009 19:23 x89titan wrote:
bisu build is cheese imo


Yeah, as soon as protoss lays down a pylon, it's already imba
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
February 19 2009 10:25 GMT
#575
On February 19 2009 19:23 AttackZerg wrote:
btw this is my favorite tvt map of all time!

I haven't seen much of it

do the games go to epic dropship chess battles that last an hour?
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Syrup
Profile Joined January 2009
United States31 Posts
February 19 2009 10:25 GMT
#576
On February 19 2009 19:24 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2009 19:23 darktreb wrote:
If game 2 had been a little closer I think it would feel a little different. If game 2 hadn't been so one-sided the reaction probably would have felt more like "Savior scout hax, perfect build, vintage Maestro mind games" but man, game 2 makes it really hard to feel that way.


True that, it's like savior didn't deserve his win.


Sorta seems that way, but he sure as hell deserved his win in game 1.
anglice loqui tironum est
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
February 19 2009 10:26 GMT
#577
lol Leta has the greatest tournament stats;
0%
100%
100%

not that it has anything to say :p
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 19 2009 10:26 GMT
#578
holy fuck. my screen was too LQ to tell, but did it just say Leta is 0-4 TvT in this MSL?
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
February 19 2009 10:26 GMT
#579
On February 19 2009 19:17 Shikyo wrote:
Well... UpMagic should know savior isn't afraid of going for 9pools, he went 9pool speed in the first game. That's why this seems pretty dumb.. Didn't he go 14cc in the last game too? I didn't get to watch it, but I think I read so from a LR. I don't know why he would try to 14cc, though... 9pool seemed pretty likely. If it was against someone like GGPlay who always 12hatches, I'd understand and accept it, but vs savior it seems... silly.

I'm pretty disappointed, but at least savior advances. ^_^

I think Up's reasoning went like this:
People tend to play standard in the last match. They tend to go for the most reasonable builds and hope that they will outplay their opponent.
Now Savior's most comfortable build has historically been 12 hatch->3 hatch muta. It wasn't stupid for Up to expect this kind of play out of Savior. Thus he wanted to eek out an advantage with 14CC, especially since it was a big 4-player map.
Savior's mentality was different. By playing 9pool, he was able to be safe and also control the pace of the game. Knowing that Up would expect a 12 hatch, he also hoped to be facing a super greedy build. 9pool wasn't even a gamble for MJY. It was a smart way of either getting an easy win or a low-risk opening.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
February 19 2009 10:26 GMT
#580
Flash, rape pls. And make it quick.
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