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[OSL] Round of 36 - Group D
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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How to Watch? | ||
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inlagdsil
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EDIT: when I wrote that there weren't any posts yet. How are you guys doing stream-wise? RE EDIT: thanks vx70GTOJudgexv! | ||
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Prediction: Upmagic > Shine Upmagic > Much | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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GRANDPA TOSS HWAITING!!! | ||
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Shikyo
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village_idiot
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and now it dies... and lives again! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Possible LR, anyone? | ||
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KnightOfNi
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UPMAGIC FTW!! | ||
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Xstatic
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On December 26 2008 18:35 Shikyo wrote: 2 threads? Which one will be used primarily? No no the other thread never materialized because its creator (me, hehe) didn't figure out how to do formatting and stuff. This thread is where the LR and discussion happens. Oh, and trolling too -_- | ||
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village_idiot
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On December 26 2008 18:38 machinebloodprogram wrote: http://live.plu.cn/hanguo/ works great here in california They showed MSL a while earlier | ||
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village_idiot
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DoX.)
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On December 26 2008 18:39 SenSai wrote: mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 Sweet | ||
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village_idiot
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Upmagic at top left | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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1rax - > Fac Mech from UpMagic. I don't know the fantasy build, but someone should know if that's what in fact is going on. | ||
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Puosu
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I hate pro's for making that popular, I always instalose when I face that on ICC. | ||
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Xstatic
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Lings running around dealing damage to Up's economy, harassing SCVs, Up pulls hero vult back to save | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Second fac going down, Shine has den + 2 hatch at natural | ||
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machinebloodprogram
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Up expo up. | ||
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Day[9]
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On December 26 2008 18:39 SenSai wrote: mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 this works in VLC? waaah maybe VLC hates me its giving me an output error T.T.T.T | ||
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Xstatic
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This game is Shine's - his build counters the mech build so well, and those hydras are going to rape those 4 goliaths that Up has. Ouch, Up lost his nat CC again, this time to hydras! | ||
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On December 26 2008 18:46 Day[9] wrote: this works in VLC? waaah maybe VLC hates me its giving me an output error T.T.T.T It does, for like 10s for me, then i stops:< | ||
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village_idiot
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On December 26 2008 18:45 machinebloodprogram wrote: all streams, just keep buffering. even if its fast, it just starts over. anyone else have this problem all streams are dead for me too | ||
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SenSai
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On December 26 2008 18:46 Day[9] wrote: this works in VLC? waaah maybe VLC hates me its giving me an output error T.T.T.T yes it works for me | ||
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Darth Peter
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On December 26 2008 18:46 Itachii wrote: It does, for like 10s for me, then i stops:< Same problem | ||
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Day[9]
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On December 26 2008 18:46 Day[9] wrote: hi my name is DAy[9] and i'm an ugly retard | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Gols waiting, but Up loses CC Hydras clear one or two gols before pulling back. Vulture running around Shine's base, finally killed by hydras. | ||
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Puosu
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On December 26 2008 18:46 Day[9] wrote: this works in VLC? waaah maybe VLC hates me its giving me an output error T.T.T.T mms -> mmsh | ||
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Xstatic
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Shine needs better micro, or Up *might* have a chance at this. | ||
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machinebloodprogram
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On December 26 2008 18:39 SenSai wrote: mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 just when i gave up on all streams, yours finally pulls through. many thanks | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Spire going up now for Shine. Up has his nat finally established and looks to be able to protect it. Sending a few vultures out for harass again. Shine morphing lurks. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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 Vulture AI bugs out, Up loses one vulture to sunk needlessly. 4 ovies headed towards Up, looks like a hydra/lurk drop. Up tries mobilizing but too late, ovies are in THis is going to kill. | ||
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Xstatic
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Looks like a drop coming from Shine, 3 lurkers and a few hydras! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Shine dropping again on natural, lurker takes down some SCVs. Meanwhile, Hydras kill attempted expo. Up looking to move out now, has a bunch of gols and tanks Mutas out for shine, get a few SCVs, warded off by gols. | ||
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Up has a huge army moving out. Muta harrass at natural binds Up's army in his base. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Armies collide, back and forth battle results in Up being sent away, reinforcements coming. Shine keeps churning out hydras. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Up moves out towards Shine again. Gols intercept mutas before they get to the main. Armies engage again, Shine losing ground again. Up able to hold position outside of Shine's base. | ||
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On December 26 2008 18:55 Silverflame wrote: zerg's macro is pretty bad. over 1000 unused gas O_o As long as his minerals are low... he can spend the gas any time he wants in the future. | ||
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Velr
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shine lurker drops the min only, totally stopps mining there. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Drop preparing, hydras and lings. Lurkers set up outside new expo, but Up attacks on Shine's front door. Shine has a large army, just not moving anywhere. Lurkers by expo finally die, but now Shine engages. | ||
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Up has map control at this point, setting up a huge army in the middle. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Shine takes another expo around 4 oclock Raided by vultures, 5-6 drones dead. Up taking another expo, attacking shine with gols and vultures. Mines take out big chunk. Vulture raid kills all drones at an expo. Shine at about 1K mins now. | ||
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I thought defilers were very good against mech. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:02 Velr wrote: Up is 40 supplie ahead, looks bad for zerg :/ You can't really compare the supplies in tvz, zerg always has a very low supply count. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Vultures once again take out a few drones at expo. Shine tries to move around top section of map, Up heads it off. Up now moving his large army Shine's way. More mutas are killed by gols. Muta harass is stopped by Gols. Up pushing shine back to his base, looks as if this should be it. | ||
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Xstatic
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On December 26 2008 19:01 Puosu wrote: Is there any reason Shine isn't going hive yet? Can't afford the tech? I thought defilers were very good against mech. He's probably wondering how Up came back despite so much early-game harass. Seriously, his mind is really out of this. Mutas flying around harassing, up pushing in with army again, Shine can't hold it and GGs! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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UpMagic 1:0 Shine[KaL] Btw: Small assed crowd. | ||
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Velr
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vultharass > shine. | ||
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Puosu
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On December 26 2008 19:03 Xstatic wrote: He's probably wondering how Up came back despite so much early-game harass. Seriously, his mind is really out of this. Mutas flying around harassing, up pushing in with army again, Shine can't hold it and GGs! Up's comeback from that really is impressive, guess Shine fucked up somewhere. | ||
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KnightOfNi
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On a side note: how the hell did he come back? He lost his expo at least 3 times... EDIT: Actually, I know why: its because Upmagic is a BALLER. | ||
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KnightOfNi
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On December 26 2008 19:05 Shikyo wrote: So is it just me or would a relatively fast hive be good vs mech? not for defilers necessarily, although those will come later, but cracklings. Cracklings get absolutely RAPED by goliaths. And vultures. Unless the Ts balance of tanks to goliaths is totally weird cracklings won't ever get anywhere near the tanks unless he has like 200 of them. | ||
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Velr
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 . There were many things wrong. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:08 KizZBG wrote: So Up plays TvZ with metal, does that mean he will use bionic vs Much? :D I wish =P | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:07 KnightOfNi wrote: Cracklings get absolutely RAPED by goliaths. And vultures. Unless the Ts balance of tanks to goliaths is totally weird cracklings won't ever get anywhere near the tanks unless he has like 200 of them. Well I mean, cracklings would be just to spend the extra minerals an to draw the goli's fire. The real force would be the 40 mutas or something. Dno >_> | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:08 DoX.) wrote: Yeah, wasn't Upie supposed to have really pimp MnM micro? o.0 Nope upmagic was known for having very unpimp Micro with marine and medics | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Take a gander at that booth... girl. | ||
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Xstatic
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After the harass Shine could have turtled and teched, knowing that Up's economy was in a shambles, but instead he fell into the trap that ensnares so many players - trying to end the game right there after successful harass, forgetting that the opponent still has a formidable army. Prediction: Up 2:0 Shine! Shine's already faced the full force of the mech build and failed at countering it effectively, so we'll see Up knock this novice around. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:09 SaveYourSavior wrote: Nope upmagic was known for having very unpimp Micro with marine and medics whoah no way manz. watch Up vs Nal_rA on nemesis. its totally awesome! ^_^ | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:09 SaveYourSavior wrote: Nope upmagic was known for having very unpimp Micro with marine and medics Ahh I see. I guess its just creativeness that Boxer and Upie have in common than | ||
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KnightOfNi
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GOGOGOGO UPMAGIC!!!! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Map: Medusa  Shine[kaL] - Red - 3 O'Clock UpMagiC - Purple - 10 O'Clock | ||
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Puosu
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seriously im cheering for that newb :> | ||
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Xstatic
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On December 26 2008 19:12 Puosu wrote: hanadulsetshinefighting seriously im cheering for that newb :> Even after those egregious decisions and terrible macro?  | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Scared of last game? Looks like Shine's going for a 12pool. | ||
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toshi
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why this stream laggy for me ;/ | ||
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Puosu
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Puosu
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2 hatch muta rush I believe | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Lair for Shine. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Lings attack the bunker and rape that shit. Now, lings head for Up's base. Up taking his nat Spire for Shine. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:15 Shikyo wrote: wait, isn't 12pool supposed to counter 8rax? lol Shine, you suck. yeah what the fuckkkkkkkk...... | ||
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Xstatic
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I think everyone's using this stream, so yeah, the bandwidth only goes so far. Fact down for Up, and also expoing to his nat. Lings breaking down temples rofl and also, spire going up. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Up scouts again, sees the spire. Turrets are up everywhere in prep. Mutas out and headed Up's way. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:17 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Shine going for that back door shit, taking down temples. Also takes nat. Up scouts again, sees the spire. Turrets are up everywhere in prep. Mutas out and headed Up's way. no way the backdoor will work, the amount of temples is so huge that when he finally finishes destroying them Up will have ten control groups of battlecruisers. :/ | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Temples are still being attacked. Eventually there can't be any more. | ||
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Puosu
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Lings get two turrets, now Mutas are in. Up looks screwed here. Gols aren't doing much to stop mutas. Somehow, Up is living through this. | ||
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Actually his muta control blows ... | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Christ Shine, you suck. Up survives somehow. More mutas on their way, but it's a turret orgy at the natural. One factory down, but turrets going up all over the main now too. | ||
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Taking out armory, transitioning to hydras now back at home. About 9 hydras head for Up's base. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:23 PoP wrote: shine is so bad with his mutas, he'll probably lose -_- no way, he can just 1a2a3a those hydras and win. :l | ||
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gg | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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1:1 | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:23 Puosu wrote: no way, he can just 1a2a3a those hydras and win. :l i meant if he kept fucking up (like, suiciding more mutas) anyway, up really got way too cocky here, he just had to 1 base/2 rax m&m and would have easily raped the shit out of shine edit: or just scout like the only thing shine could be wanting to do to catch up | ||
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"That'll show that bunker rusher" | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:17 Velr wrote: he's attacking the temples... with lings... sigh... lolol | ||
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Seriously, Upmagic? Seriously? | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:25 PoP wrote: i meant if he kept fucking up (like, suiciding more mutas) yep, his mutas were not that impressive, but 6 muts vs 1-2 ghols is just a bit unfair .How to not spot that temple break still psychs me... | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:25 PoP wrote: i meant if he kept fucking up (like, suiciding more mutas) anyway, up really got way too cocky here, he just had to 1 base/2 rax m&m and would have easily raped the shit out of shine Agree, he must've thought the game was already his and it didn't matter what he would do.. meh doesn't matter he'll probably rape in the third game anyway. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:26 food wrote: he needs to wipe this sweat off, pig boy Manner please. -_- | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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MAP: Return of the King UpMagic - Green - 11 O'Clock Shine[kaL] - Red - 5 O'Clock Million dollar question: Can Shine[kaL] top JackassHo today? | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:27 KnightOfNi wrote: Damn stream... it died right before Shine killed the bunker >_<. lol tuff luck, my stream the other day died just b4 JD used ensnare -_- | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Rax at the ramp for Up. Will we see Mech this time too? | ||
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Xstatic
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On December 26 2008 19:28 DoX.) wrote: *Hopes Shine gets an early-game lead* Roflol no. I think he knows how to play properly now against a mech-teching terran. | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:30 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: 9 pool from Shine, then cancels an extractor. Bunker at the ramp for Up. Will we see Mech this time too? I'm pretty sure that barracks is misplaced so it can't be walled on, could be wrong though. I hope he doesn't mechgay again. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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So much for "creative" Lings headed Up's way now. 1 marine vs. 6 lings. Gets a few SCVs and expands, but overall no dice. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Up's scout killed. Den going down for Shine, lair on its way. | ||
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he is beaten off | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:33 SaveYourSavior wrote: shine doesn't realize that zerglings can fit through the gap (according to commentators) yeah i was like 99% sure lings could go through that wtf | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:33 SaveYourSavior wrote: shine doesn't realize that zerglings can fit through the gap (according to commentators) he is beaten off That's what it looked like. =P | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Spire going up for Shine. Vultures plant some mines taken care of by hydras. 3 facts now + armory vultures kill some hydras. | ||
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edit: LOL marine gets slaughtered first thing by muta as a revenge | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:34 PoP wrote: yeah i was like 99% sure lings could go through that wtf yeah it looks like even an ultralisk could get through, a nice find by Up. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Mutas out, turrets just going up. 5 gols though. Mutas get 4-5 SCVs | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Mutas pull back. Hydras and mutas engage vults, then gols go for 2nd natural. Vultures rush into nat, don't do much. | ||
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Port up for Up. Mutas doing well against turrets, getting a few SCVs. large number of gols move in on Shine's 3rd, wipeit out Armies engage and Shine is pushed back. Gols head back, Shine takes a different base near 7 oclock. | ||
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Velr
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Upmagic is the 1a2a3a4a Terran.. Ghols only :p | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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GG from Shine. UpMagic advances to play Much 2:1 | ||
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KnightOfNi
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Now Much vs Upmagic... I don't know if I can realistically pick between the two  .. | ||
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village_idiot
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metal magic | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:41 KnightOfNi wrote: UPMAGIC!!!!!! Now Much vs Upmagic... I don't know if I can realistically pick between the two ..Upmagic. You know you want to. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Too bad UpMagiC's about to get ROLLED by Gramps | ||
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DoX.)
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Upmagic > MuMyung | ||
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PoP
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only issue is vultures/vult raids being a bitch to deal with early game but good building placement should be able to counter this | ||
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food
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On December 26 2008 19:45 PoP wrote: imo zergs should stick to pure (upgraded) mutas/agressive expanding vs mech only issue is vultures/vult raids being a bitch to deal with early game but good building placement should be able to counter this for some reason i believe in 1-1 hydra vs 1-1 gols more then muta/ling edit: from what i seen lately much wasnt that hot, his bones are cracking under age | ||
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On December 26 2008 19:45 food wrote: chicken looks good, i want that LOL | ||
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Solinren
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On December 26 2008 19:45 food wrote: chicken looks good, i want that You know you want SNSD moar. | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:45 DoX.) wrote: MuMyung > Much Upmagic > MuMyung Sounds pretty simple to me. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
my boy upmagic'll take this NP!!! Now if I can find a stream... | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
MnM baby!! ..err someone hook a brotha up with a working stream? | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:49 .risingdragoon wrote: now for upmagic's Bio vP, fook yea! my boy upmagic'll take this NP!!! Now if I can find a stream... Its on Yauyuan. With the exception of the last 5 min of game 2 wits been flawless. | ||
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France15446 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:46 food wrote: for some reason i believe in 1-1 hydra vs 1-1 gols more then muta/ling You need many many hydras to counter mass gols unless you pull a really nice flank. Pure mutas doesn't work too well unless you have tons of them, but you're supposed to heavily harrass the Terran to keep him in his base while you take expos. That's how Zergs used to deal with mech anyway and it worked a lot better. Only difference, again, and quite a large one, is that nowadays Terrans also add some vults to the mix which are pretty annoying to deal with and render zerglings kind of useless. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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UpMagiC fans? | ||
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France15446 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:54 snapcrackle wrote: Ok to clarify things! The commentators said they checked up on whether or not zerglings could have fit through the gap and it was confirmed that marines and lings cannot fit through the gap. Thanks. | ||
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food
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On December 26 2008 19:52 PoP wrote: You need many many hydras to counter mass gols unless you pull a really nice flank. Pure mutas doesn't work too well unless you have tons of them, but you're supposed to heavily harrass the Terran to keep him in his base while you take expos. That's how Zergs used to deal with mech anyway and it worked a lot better. Only difference, again, and quite a large one, is that nowadays Terrans also add some vults to the mix which are pretty annoying to deal with and render zerglings kind of useless. hydras should win vs gols until siege tanks roll out! problem is that terran might not go gols if u skip muta, so my guess is dual tech with fake spire to make T turret up and go pura hydra/hydraling with ups | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27148 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:52 PoP wrote: You need many many hydras to counter mass gols unless you pull a really nice flank. Pure mutas doesn't work too well unless you have tons of them, but you're supposed to heavily harrass the Terran to keep him in his base while you take expos. That's how Zergs used to deal with mech anyway and it worked a lot better. Only difference, again, and quite a large one, is that nowadays Terrans also add some vults to the mix which are pretty annoying to deal with and render zerglings kind of useless. I totally agree with this. It seems zergs are a bit lazy with the vult harass, and losing because of it. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Map: Tears of the Moon  Much - White - 6 O'ClockUpMagiC - Green - 2 O'Clock | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Beat one of my other favorites  | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
On December 26 2008 19:58 DoX.) wrote: Upmagic eager to get back to celebrate his win With the booth girl. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
First gateway down for Much. Rax building for Up. | ||
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KnightOfNi
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
 Things are gonna get wild | ||
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darktreb
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food
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Neither scout can get in to the others base. | ||
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village_idiot
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On December 26 2008 19:51 KnightOfNi wrote: Its on Yauyuan. With the exception of the last 5 min of game 2 wits been flawless. Not for me. All streams are dead. Yaoyuan won't even buffer more than 1% per second and VLC plays 10 seconds then dies. | ||
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:01 darktreb wrote: From OGN themselves supposedlyWow this liveongame.gscdn.com stream works flawlessly - where did this come from? | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
detailed live report GO! | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Support bay down, but vulture gets in and lays some mines. Vulture and marines are having a field day. Doesn't look good for much | ||
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food
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Reaver is out for Much, Vultures finally handled. Much sighs in relief. Ebay going up, but will turrets get up fast enough for Up? No. Reaver is in,doing some damage. Second fact going down, along with CC in Up's base. Shuttle's just chillin. | ||
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Cpt.InSaNo
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food
United States1951 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:05 Cpt.InSaNo wrote: this stream sux /wrists | ||
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OSWater
United States1343 Posts
Try that guys. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Reaver is really not doing shit. Much expands, Up's CC is done. Shuttle still floating around, Reaver is near dead. Observatory down, gateway warping in for Much. Up has a few facts working. | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
should come in handy in nxt push | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Shuttle trying for round 2. this time, looks effective. Nevermind, reaver dies, Much has to take his Zealot and leave. | ||
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Velr
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seriously, why is much even bothering with reavers? | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Shuttle is floating over tanks, Zealots taking cover, nice zealot bombs by much | ||
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food
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Manifesto7
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On December 26 2008 20:10 poilord wrote: how the f did much stop that attack? Oo upmagic's micro helped him out. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Quickly losing this battle, Up has two tanks chilling outside of Much's nat. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Much charges up the hill and takes care of Up's tanks, but Up brings some Vults and pushes Much back. Vultures now try and push into the natural. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Up expanding now, outside of his main. Has much on the run in multiple places, much JUST saves his reaver. Tank shelling Much's natural, goon drop takes it out. UpMagic just keeping the pressure on Much, much keeps trying suicide runs out of his nat and losing units repeatedly. Not looking good. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Not much he can do, waiting GG at this point. Up pushing into his nat now, got to be game soon. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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Just a matter of time before he runs up into the main. GG. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
... Just 1 picture... But I see lotsa vults/tanks crushing 2 goons | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Well ok so he won on the worst PvT map since Ungoro. If he wins on Medusa I'll be really impressed. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
hell yeah I'm on! | ||
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nujabes
United States286 Posts
boxers always gets me excited | ||
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Finland33997 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:17 Kentor wrote: god damn much looks older than ever Well, he is older than ever. I'm expecting some kind of an aggressive strategy by UpMagic. Either some temple cheese stuff, or 2 factory. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
all for my boy upmagic | ||
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Bring back the old one imo | ||
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snapcrackle
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:22 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: This week could be titled "Batoo OSL: A Comedy of Errors" between JackassHo, fail[kaL] and Much's fucktard scarabs. Hahahah for real. LOL @ Jackassho. Much's scarabs weren't that bad, he just threw away a bunch of goons to that flank in the middle of the map. | ||
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:24 snapcrackle wrote: Upmagic looks like he gained some pounds. He's always looked chubby :p | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
MAP: Medusa Much[gm] - Orange - 3 O'ClockUpMagiC - Red - 7 O'ClockUh oh, Much is mad. Much took off the jacket, people! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
You should see what he debuted. he looked best in 06 when he played nada, estro's uniform in 06 was so sleek he does seen like he gained half a stone | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Up's TvP is fucking 40% Much if you get bounced I swear to god... Rax going down for Up 1-gate for Much. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:28 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Much's PvT is 59% Up's TvP is fucking 40% Much if you get bounced I swear to god... Rax going down for Up 1-gate for Much. stop with the stats jesus a year ago vp was upmagic's best at 50 something % | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Citadel for Much. | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On December 26 2008 20:22 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: This week could be titled "Batoo OSL: A Comedy of Errors" between JackassHo, fail[kaL] and Much's fucktard scarabs. Much's scarabs are always retarded | ||
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Xstatic
United States765 Posts
DT rush coming, I think vults will handle it nicely, if Up still has his micro from last game. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Up headed for Much with mini force. | ||
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Pads
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-_-; wooooooow temp archieve not up yet up could take it here lol he waiting too long | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Up is raping face in Much's main, Much pulls back. Much uses DTs to ward off Up's shit, but he's hurting. More vultures there. SOon GG? | ||
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Xstatic
United States765 Posts
Up 2-0 Much. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
YEAHHH | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
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UpMagic advances to Ro16 2:0 | ||
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United States3021 Posts
sad much played so shit tonight | ||
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United States1164 Posts
upmagic you better fuckin do something with this shit, you better not Sea/BackHo this fucking osl | ||
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Finland33997 Posts
PvT supposed to be his best MU, couldn't defend against a 2 fac on a map where only a 2fac is viable for terran. Against UpMagiC whose TvP is... "not that good"(It sucks). | ||
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poilord
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
they icicles | ||
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
26/12/2008 Up's return to the starleague! | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
it's about time up's back in osl. those builds are totally awesome now | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Wow, that used to be his weakest MU? He must really have taken the loss to JD to heart. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
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Up vs Zerg, Up will win of course... then Much vs Up, hmm, I'd pick much...then opens the spoiler....whaat? *reading lrs* | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
after placing 4th in ever07 upmagic slumped hard, especially his tvp should listen to day9 and watch up vs ra where he played the ace set on the P map nemesis, for a glimpse of his awesome vP upmagic's got the biggest set of brass balls for the kind of stuff he pulls in starleague. the man's a fearless buildorder rebel!!!! just imagine his opponent's practice partners: "err what should I do?" | ||
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On December 26 2008 20:45 Shikyo wrote: He and Jaedong are really good friendsLast 10 (old -> recent): W W L W W W W W W W Wow, that used to be his weakest MU? He must really have taken the loss to JD to heart. | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
Yeah after the EVER OSL he just basically fell off the map. The reason: he tried to play like Flash, straight and mechanical, but didn't have the pure mechanics and failed horribly. In last season's MST win against Savior I could see the creative spark coming back when he did a 2fac 1port build, and now after the pwnage that was tonight (especially game 1 against shine... I still don't know how he came back), his creativity is really showing up. I'm waiting for the nuke rush in the Ro16 . | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
you can't be creative if you gotta play several games in a roll for weeks on end, you need time to think and come up with it like garimto says. upmagic's damn clever, now he's back I'm still looking for that vod of him vs bisu on katrina. won't somebody gimme that 100mb file? | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
One thing i did not understand in that intervew: Is Garimto coming back to be a progamer or what? He spoke as if he was going back to KTF or sth | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I meant... nevermind. | ||
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MrHoon
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On December 26 2008 22:38 keit wrote: Ahhh Upmagic, good to see him pwning the shit outta those boring gamers. much is awesome screw you but yay for Upmagic | ||
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On December 27 2008 01:26 Titusmaster6 wrote: Too bad for Much but I'm happy for Up. Hope he can do well this time. Agreed | ||
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I love it when Upmagic wins~ | ||
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drone
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On December 27 2008 02:55 Dazed_Spy wrote: god I hate upmagic How can you hate one of the most creative players? | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On December 27 2008 03:04 drone wrote: How can you hate one of the most creative players? Because he's on a sucky team? Because outside of his so-called "creativity", he blows? Because unless he's cheesing someone, he's generally boring? I could keep going, if you wish. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On December 27 2008 03:36 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Because he's on a sucky team? Because outside of his so-called "creativity", he blows? Because unless he's cheesing someone, he's generally boring? I could keep going, if you wish. yea and you also don't know anything like what is cheese and what is strategy | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 27 2008 04:08 Fwmeh wrote: IMHO Up's metal build vs zerg stopped being original some time ago. So did the rest of TvAnything. I LOVE YOU SEAUP! | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
When I opened the results I expected Much 2-0. | ||
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Frits
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in msl and osl, niiiiiice | ||
Liquid`Jinro
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And what did he answer (obv) | ||
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United States1929 Posts
[Fan question]: Before it looked like you lacked confidence in straight-up[literally they asked by-the-book/orthodox, but I took some translation licenses] games against zerg. Has mechanical play given you new confidence[in your straight-up game]?. UpMagic: Well, seems like today I blatantly played mech again, but it's because lately I have great confidence in my mech play. However I also think that I will have to show some bionic. [Extra question by the commentator]: So, mech is now an orthodox/by-the-book strategy against zerg? UpMagic: Yes. Of course it is. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit: Fuck, this was a heartbreaking match. I like both Up and Much. Too bad they had to battle it between them. Sucks because it's sinking Much even deeper and it is good because it's a chance for the revival of one of my all-time favorite terrans. Btw, UpMagic needs less coffee, more sleep. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
And yeah, I'm really happy that Up has started dozing again. Ridic results vs zerg as of late. | ||
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