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This really can go either way i dont think any1 can give a accurate prediction. And jesus does tot have alot of zerg.
And why wont some ToT members be allowed to play?
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MYM will win this 
Some of the members arent allowed to play because they've just been added to the team.
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Nice, I'll tune in.  My prediction is 3-2 for MyM but I am cheering for ToT. ToT fighting~~~~
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
meh, that's just 1 hour before liquibition
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On December 12 2008 23:20 Carnac wrote:
meh, that's just 1 hour before liquibition
haha so JF cant probably play
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On December 12 2008 23:20 Carnac wrote:
meh, that's just 1 hour before liquibition
Woah woah. We scheduled this back in September!
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I'll definitely be watching. Go TOT!
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On December 12 2008 23:20 Carnac wrote:
meh, that's just 1 hour before liquibition
So you tune in one hour earlier then running both streams ending with liquibition 
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I don't see MYM losing this.
Either 4-1 or 3-2.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
JF is playing his games with Brat_OK way before the broadcast. IT'S A REPLAY?
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MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win.
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On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win.
lol
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On December 13 2008 01:27 Kennigit wrote:
JF is playing his games with Brat_OK way before the broadcast. IT'S A REPLAY? OMG IT'S A REPLAY??
SO NOT WORTH TO WATCH
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On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win.
did you forget about dinot,yoon and white-ra who are as good as anyone in tot(Except mondragon) if not better?
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Netherlands4511 Posts
dinot is shit, white-ra is protoss, WOW PROTOSS IS HARD
there has to be some trashtalking between the teams..
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
TOT DESTROYS CLANS BY STEALING TOP PLAYERS LIKE SHAD AND AERIALS (ROFL).
MYM PAYS FOR WINS AND DOES IT WITH EVIL GRIMACES I KNOW CAUSE I SAW ONCE.
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Norway28665 Posts
I hope everyone I like wins!
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On December 13 2008 01:43 Ash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win. did you forget about dinot,yoon and white-ra who are as good as anyone in tot(Except mondragon) if not better?
DinOt is a all-in maniac, not exactly great.
Yoon is overrated. Proved that by having a hard time at B iCCup last season.
White-Ra I will give you. He's a wild card. Somedays he'll play amazing, somedays he's shit.
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On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win.
Apparently winning tsl has no value to a persons skill level?
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On December 13 2008 01:38 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 01:27 Kennigit wrote:
JF is playing his games with Brat_OK way before the broadcast. IT'S A REPLAY? OMG IT'S A REPLAY?? SO NOT WORTH TO WATCH
Maybe there is ONE game being played before but its live.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 13 2008 03:52 HanN00b wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 01:38 Carnac wrote:On December 13 2008 01:27 Kennigit wrote:
JF is playing his games with Brat_OK way before the broadcast. IT'S A REPLAY? OMG IT'S A REPLAY?? SO NOT WORTH TO WATCH Maybe there is ONE game being played before but its live.
hahaha
you misunderstood me
Kennigit & me were doing TSL references. A couple of people complained hardcore about TL casting from replays back then. So everyone used OMG IT'S A REPLAY?? to make fun of them.
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Braavos36375 Posts
Germany, where humor goes to die.
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hmm guys dinot, strelok, ra, jf, arew and others MYM are far better then ToT's now! i think only dissy gonna get win others lose. but i wish luck to ToT's
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On December 13 2008 03:12 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 01:43 Ash wrote:On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win. did you forget about dinot,yoon and white-ra who are as good as anyone in tot(Except mondragon) if not better? DinOt is a all-in maniac, not exactly great. Yoon is overrated. Proved that by having a hard time at B iCCup last season. White-Ra I will give you. He's a wild card. Somedays he'll play amazing, somedays he's shit.
1.DinOt may not be spectacular but he is not an all in maniac.
2. An overrated yoon can still bash some(if not most) of the tot at any given time.
3. So what makes you think that the tot guys can still win against white-ra even when they have an off day?
get the facts right. MYM is the strongest BW team at the moment. This is not even debatable judging from their current performance in every team league.
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ToT win would be an upset - but it is possible with the 2v2 since MYM's 2v2 is relatively weak
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damn, was hoping to see Testie play
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On December 13 2008 11:17 pinktemplar wrote:
damn, was hoping to see Testie play
testie will appear in myms dota roster soon :- D
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On December 13 2008 11:32 [pG]Archi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 11:17 pinktemplar wrote:
damn, was hoping to see Testie play testie will appear in myms dota roster soon :- D
OMGFFF TESTIE :\
@Ash
I think MYM is the strongest BW team outside korea too. But ToT can beat them. It depends on the lineup.
For example:
Mondragon vs White-Ra = FREEWIN for ToT
Mondragon vs Dreiven or Strelok = open game
White-Ra on the other hand would defeat any other ToT than Mondragon.
All in all I think MYMs 1on1 is stronger than ToTs but ToT only needs to win two 1on1s (Mondragon + one more) to win the match cause they will most likely win the 2on2. On a good day for ToT thats absolutly possible.
PS; can you spotlight this?
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mondi is fucking sick.
Nobody outside korea is good enough to get a white-ra free win.... are you joking?
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4-1 mym, maybe 3-2 only because of 2;2 but if its yoon vs mondragon, could be 4-1 even with a 2v2
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On December 13 2008 20:32 AttackZerg wrote:
mondi is fucking sick.
Nobody outside korea is good enough to get a white-ra free win.... are you joking?
White-Ra never won against Mondragon...
Mondragon > White-Ra GSL 1 month ago
Mondragon > White-Ra ESL Major Series 2 months ago
Mondragon > White-Ra GSL 7 months ago
Mondragon > White-Ra WGTCL2 11 months ago
Mondragon > White-Ra WCG07 1 year ago
Mondragon > White-Ra FBT 1 year ago
Mondragon > White-Ra FBT 1 year ago
Mondragon > White-Ra PG24 1 year ago
Mondragon > White-Ra ToT SM 1 year ago
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Germany2762 Posts
no terran for mym?
tot fighting!
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On December 13 2008 03:12 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2008 01:43 Ash wrote:On December 13 2008 01:28 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
MYM's so overrated. t-t
I say 3-2 or 4-1 for ToT).
ToT)'s lineup are always good, whereas MYM, unless they bring Strelok, Arew, and a inshape Dreiven/IefNaij, won't win. did you forget about dinot,yoon and white-ra who are as good as anyone in tot(Except mondragon) if not better? DinOt is a all-in maniac, not exactly great. Yoon is overrated. Proved that by having a hard time at B iCCup last season. White-Ra I will give you. He's a wild card. Somedays he'll play amazing, somedays he's shit.
Do0d,
Just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Testie has zero shot at MYM's DotA team, fyi.
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gaypro autoloss ;( ? :DDDDDDDDDDD
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Daze man, when do you start playing again ? 8D
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yoon might be the best player on all the teams hes already beaten mondragon many times.
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vhallee casting sounds like a lot of fun
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ToT will take the 2v2 game from MYM.
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vhalle casting will be a lot of fun.
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hhaha zerg heavy vs protoss heavy
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very even votes
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Vhallees accent is great
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is strelok actually playing zerg in 2v2?
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strelok should better play his mainrace in the second game-.
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Norway28665 Posts
and haha talking about "maybe cannon rush" when its the most obvious fast +1 zealot rush through all time
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wtf I thought it was supposed to start at 3pm EST!
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dont mind, next CW was ToT soon
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On December 15 2008 04:29 EscPlan9 wrote:
wtf I thought it was supposed to start at 3pm EST!
it starts in 21 minutes.
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Hungary11291 Posts
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nice quality on the stream
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Hungary11291 Posts
Real Zerg invasion by ToT here .
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Alle Zerg lol
oh no a toss LJT
Will be hard for mym
Mondragon vs White-Ra = Autowin
2n2 will be ToTs win too.
So MYM need to win all the remaining 1on1s which will be extremly hard.
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
Nice team battle, good luck to both teams.
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On December 15 2008 05:33 Plexa wrote:This is so bad  haha Live casts with LL are sooo difficult to do
Ya btw. What about liquibition really starting in 25 minutes?
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Hungary11291 Posts
Looks like JF might drop the first game, Gosia had 4 base against 3rd being set up by JF and is sending a mass of Hydra / Lurker.
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Hungary11291 Posts
I think Gosia will take 12 and start doomdropping JF into oblivion, Mondragon style.
Gosia just won a big fight in the middle, despite weathering a whole tsunami of storms.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
not bad position for gosia, altho he is losing a lot of stray overlords and random grps of units
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Netherlands4511 Posts
if he can stall 6 and keep making ultras he will in good shape
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Netherlands4511 Posts
too bad gosia never uses defilers
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Hungary11291 Posts
Gosia has both 12 and 6 at the moments, Ultralisks soon added to his army. No defilers though?
Doomdrop madness starting.
For Gosia, actually there IS a cow level!
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score now ?
edit: nm.. was first game O-o
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Netherlands4511 Posts
gosia showed some great macro
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Hungary11291 Posts
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HOW CAN IW ATCH 2 STREAM AT SAME TIME T_T
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Netherlands4511 Posts
are they playing without #LL?
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On December 15 2008 05:56 ret wrote:
are they playing without #LL?
i think theyre on iccup
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On December 15 2008 05:55 FaCE_1 wrote:
HOW CAN IW ATCH 2 STREAM AT SAME TIME T_T
get a good connection.
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On December 15 2008 05:56 ret wrote:
are they playing without #LL?
hmm what u mean ?
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Hungary11291 Posts
On December 15 2008 05:57 FaCE_1 wrote:hmm what u mean ?
If you were on bnet with chaoslauncher, you would suffix your games with #LL in order to get LAN Latency. But apparently they are not on bnet.
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Even more funny JF playing on both streams
PS: Plexa pp liquibition for 10 minutes good
PPS: They are on icc.
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Hungary11291 Posts
On December 15 2008 05:58 HanN00b wrote:Even more funny JF playing on both streams
*insert protoss so easy joke*
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thx.
On December 15 2008 05:58 HanN00b wrote:Even more funny JF playing on both streams PS: Plexa pp liquibition for 10 minutes good PPS: They are on icc.
he is so good he can play on 2 computer at same time :D
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can i get a link for windows media player or gom player on stream its too dark for me
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On December 15 2008 05:59 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 05:58 HanN00b wrote:Even more funny JF playing on both streams *insert protoss so easy joke*
lol.
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Game 2 started.
edit: and the stream crashed.
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well fo rme it'S actualy open in windows media O-o
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Stream is totally unwatchable for me. The audio comes through cleanly, but the video is the choppiest I've ever seen.
Someone upload this afterwards?
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Hungary11291 Posts
Lol, Scout killing Ovies!
JF getting overrun by 4 hatch lings at the moment after doing some damage with a 2 gate zeal rush off his fast expansion.
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
Han, would you mind me posting a relay?
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Sweden33719 Posts
Heh, there is really no way Gosi should have won this game lol
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wow gosia was really nice on that !!
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Norway28665 Posts
poor jf, p generally shouldnt lose when they deal that kind of zealot damage early t.t
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Hungary11291 Posts
NINE TEN ELEVEN KILL SCOUT!
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Austin10831 Posts
jf actually doing a nice job from an impossible position
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Netherlands4511 Posts
WHERE IS HYDRA SPEED? OL SPEED?
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Hungary11291 Posts
On December 15 2008 06:14 ret wrote:
WHERE IS HYDRA SPEED? OL SPEED?
Don't worry, JF will get streamrolled by full three base economy soon.
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Hungary11291 Posts
And already it's 2-0.
ToT owning the MYM-Stars?
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i hope they broadcast more game of mym vs tot
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looks like tot will win
EDIT: LOL Dissy lost his first game against Ra....
Results (so far)
+ Show Spoiler +
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Hungary11291 Posts
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i really want to watch the 2v2 PLEASE !!!!!!!
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So hope strelok win his third game.
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gj tot
so now we can watch liquibition.
EDIT: or?
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NOOOOOOOOOOO strlok lost ..
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On December 15 2008 06:25 HanN00b wrote:
gj tot
so now we can watch liquibition.
EDIT: or?
The stream said haypro won, then 2 minutes later thay were talking about how they hoping for strelok to win the last game. But now they said that haypro won again.
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Yea, they're continuing to talk even though the games are over?
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they're going to stream mondragon vs white-ra replays now
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Now twisted is going to play, seems like.
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I have no idea what's going on, so confusing. Whatever, liquibition is on.
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Are there going to be VODs anywhere of this?
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Hungary11291 Posts
On December 15 2008 07:47 PH wrote:
Are there going to be VODs anywhere of this?
I think the replays are released, without cast though.
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I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me.
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this is so backwards lmao
ra beat mondragon in a series for the first time
and every other MYM lost, wow.
talk about speechless.
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This is called
MADNESS
Yes Gogo :D!
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All I have to say is WOW.Mondy raped 2-0? At least ToT won though but still,it hurts even my ass.
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On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me.
Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really.
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lol ToT should change their name to Zerg Swarm or something
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On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really.
Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym.
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On December 15 2008 17:56 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really. Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym.
It's no news that MyM would usually beat ToT, but the difference is always very small, and maybe that won't be the case anymore from now on.
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Arew needed to play, he can beat anybody now
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Nice Job! ToT fighting! Zerg fighting
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On December 15 2008 17:56 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really. Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym.
lol.
whenever I see squall playing zvz he pretty much always wins :[
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
uhhh I can tell you that dinot and squall are the two top zvz's atm (for foreigners). I have played Squall FOR YEARS and he has always aside from Mondi, been the hardest for me. It wasn't until TSL time or so when Dinot was added to the very short list in my mind of top top zvz.
Also the nature of ZvZ is such that whenever two top zvz's face off it can go either way.. so many factors.
I like both Dinot and Squall but Squall is my homeboy.. glad he won <3
Nice job to ToT btw. Big win. Mym had a bit of a streak going against them and they snapped it when they needed to.. very nice. Cannot wait for reps!
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On December 15 2008 20:51 ret wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 17:56 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really. Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym. If you think haypro would lose TvZ to a 3 hatch ling allin user ur pretty crazy. And it's no news that MyM would usually beat ToT, but the difference is always very small, and maybe that won't be the case anymore from now on.
Thats my oppinion too. In addition I think the ToT guys took this more serious. They desperately wanted this victory cause every one considered mym as the top team. On the other hand some MYM players (like Strelok) MIGHT not be that motivated (of course he gave his best, but after such big success he had at the wcg he might miss his killer instinct.
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On December 15 2008 17:56 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really. Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym.
Id like to think you're not completely retarded, but you are .
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T.sqd)litt check some of his zvz games vs top zergs from the tsl rep pack and then we talk
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On December 16 2008 02:29 SkepTicAL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 17:56 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:On December 15 2008 12:25 SkepTicAL wrote:On December 15 2008 08:13 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm really happy ToT won! However, my predictions were 100% wrong. From those line-ups I would've guessed Mondragon to be the only one with a chance at winning. Squall defeating Dinot and Gosia beating iefnaij are both pretty surprising results to me. Squall has one of the best zvz's for foreigners hands down so him losing woulda been a surprise, and gosia can't be beat by most people in general. He's active on iccup too so he was in fairly top form. The draw couldn't have been any better for us really. Did you just think of that now ? o.O No he doesn't have one of the best zvz's hands down -_- he's above average but top, it's dinot who has a lot worse winning rate in zvz's compared to his zvt and zvp. And yes the draw couldn't have been better. If you would change places with haypro and squall you'd be seeing a 3-1 in favour of mym. Id like to think you're not completely retarded, but you are .
what kind of stupid answer is that, what makes him a retard.
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lol gosia is good but jf keeps proving why i don't think hes the best foriegner out there ;( still very good though
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LOLZ wtf the one person I would expect to win with these brackets lost for tot, and the other 3 somehow managed to beat strelok, jf and dinot? That gave me a good laugh actually.
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EPT
White-Ra vs 
Mondragon
HayprO
DinOt vs 
SquaLL
IefNaij vs 
GOsia![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif)
(CN)LJT![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.gif)
(HU)Ace
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yosh![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/flags/de.png)
MaX, ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/flags/pl.png)
lastnight![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/flags/lt.png)
Arew
