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Odds/Interesting Facts
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if SKT cant beat ACE its all over for them..
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On October 22 2008 10:44 hubfub wrote: if SKT cant beat ACE its all over for them..
QFT
Looks like BeSt will have an easy game to pad his confidence before his big OSL series later this week....a win would be his 7th straight PvT victory.
GO T1! No more slumping!
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I really don't think Best should be playing this game. If I were him, I'd be just practicing PvP. So, BeSt won't be completely prepared for this match imo, but he'll probably still take it.
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On October 22 2008 10:57 3 Lions wrote: I really don't think Best should be playing this game. If I were him, I'd be just practicing PvP. So, BeSt won't be completely prepared for this match imo, but he'll probably still take it.
Just a few days ago BeSt was playing PvT on this map in the OSL, I think he'll be more than ready. BeSt is not the type of player who needs time to think about certain builds to take out certain players, he just plays DT -> arbs and owns his opponent with macro and timing every game.
IMO the only risk is some sort of special build from Boxer - putting him on this map could easily have been a snipe for BeSt.
EDIT: holy crap I just realized we're going to see something other than a ZvZ on Raid Assault. Thank god for fantasy.
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yeah zvz gets BORING on raid assualt
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I want SKT1 to win but i want Boxer to rape Best :D
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Boxer will somehow incorporate valks into tvp and win, paving the way for a 3-0 ACE victory.
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how is this possible
*If (T)Fantasy wins, he will have a 50% win in TvZ.
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boxer will win and surprise us with gosuness.!
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On October 22 2008 11:15 tKd_ wrote: how is this possible
*If (T)Fantasy wins, he will have a 50% win in TvZ.
He's only played a handful of TvZs in his entire career, and I think he lost all or almost all of them until this OSL.
Unless you're referring to the fact that "50% win" doesn't make sense, in which case all I have to say is that the OP made an error and it should be "50% winrate".
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On October 22 2008 11:15 tKd_ wrote: how is this possible
*If (T)Fantasy wins, he will have a 50% win in TvZ.
He's 4-5 right not.
If he wins he'll have 5-5. 5/10 is 50%.
Fantasy was 1-4 when he played GGPlay.
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I think fantasy's bionic/tvz still needs work. He seems abit too passive from the tvz games i've seen of him.
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I think that Fantasy's Bionic will be very interesting to watch develop. His Mnm macro wasn't very good and it just seemed that he was just missing one or two components of his game play to become a fearsome TvZ player. He definitely made every marine out against ggplay, that's for sure.
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Honestly this might go to ace.
I think oversky and foru will win.
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United States3824 Posts
I think after today i'll be asking myself "why didn't I think to use valks in TvP like that?"
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Technically if you count the 2v2's, ForU's on a 5 game winning streak.
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Boxer! Yipee! It's been quite a while.
However, I would like to point out that your odds are incorrect. It should be BeSt -50% - 9001% BoxeR.
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Boxer will lose but he will lose in an entertaining and graceful manner. He'll probably try some strange build that hasn't been used in a very long time. (Maybe go MnM or something).
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If SKT cannot win this convincingly, I will be very worried for their chances this season. Go SKT.
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No Kim Taek Young? Lamers.
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as much as we all like boxer, you must realize he may get run the hell over before he tries something funny, if he even tries something funny.
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Hope SKT1 goes 3-1, boxer winning obv
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If only Ace match was oov vs boxer...
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skt deserves to take the last spot in the rankings! go for it t1!!!
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Daum sports not working for me today... anyone else have the same problem?
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On October 22 2008 13:29 IntoTheWow wrote: Daum sports not working for me today... anyone else have the same problem?
I loaded the embedded WMP player, but it's stuck at 'Connecting to media...' Same problem?
NVM, it's buffering. I can see it. 
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On October 22 2008 13:55 Realpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 13:29 IntoTheWow wrote: Daum sports not working for me today... anyone else have the same problem? I loaded the embedded WMP player, but it's stuck at 'Connecting to media...' Same problem? Daum sports works for me now. remember to use ie.
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On October 22 2008 13:29 IntoTheWow wrote: Daum sports not working for me today... anyone else have the same problem?
seems the stream is not ready. pot player has no live button for ace vs skt while the other game has one.
edit) nvm. it's ready now
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It's working, im just dumb argentina changed its timezone and i forgot.
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Here we go- the skt1 mascot is out xD
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This will be a good preview for the upcoming Best vs Fantasy match, I still don't know who to vote for on that one
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Hahahaha
"Mission Possible" Cheerful.
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To all fuckers saying Best >>> Boxer: hey boyz, fok yu !
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On October 22 2008 14:05 ClouD.BreaK wrote: Hahahaha
"Mission Possible" Cheerful.
Mission ImPossible
IM or Lim = boxer's first name
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On October 22 2008 14:07 araav wrote:To all fuckers saying Best >>> Boxer: hey boyz, fok yu ! Even though I hope for Boxer to win, as always, it makes me sad that he has to play on the P>T map Chupung-ryeong. Hopefully he busts out a crazy strategy to take the win!
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On October 22 2008 14:04 Realpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:03 GarlicPepper wrote: This will be a good preview for the upcoming Best vs Fantasy match, I still don't know who to vote for on that one Don't you mean Stork vs. Fantasy? OH SNAP gogo boxer!!! 
lol how can Best lose he's the b(B)est
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On October 22 2008 14:08 fw wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:05 ClouD.BreaK wrote: Hahahaha
"Mission Possible" Cheerful. Mission ImPossible IM or Lim = boxer's first name
Ahhhhh, gotcha. Much more clever that way.
Also, Boxer hair looks longer? I figured their short haircuts were standard military?
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United States17042 Posts
Oh man boxer, let's see if you can pull it out
best at 7 boxer at 1
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Oh snap best... proxy first pylon, but it looks like boxer is going to wall off.
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wow didn't expect cheese from Best here, he usually plays straight up
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pretty good- boxer manages to make sure that best doesn't gas steal,
gate follows proxy pylon for best
Best puts down pylon and shield batter to make sure perfect wall can't be complete
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So fucking weak Best... I hate you now.
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all in cheese.. I feel bad for boxer
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best lays down a shield battery and begins the stream of zealots....
takes down a bunch of SCV's, he's in!
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5 kill first zeal for best, 3 zeals in boxers base. only 4 scv's left mining for boxer.
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Boxer takes down the pylon, finishes the wall. He's hoping to come back, but personally...it's going to be tough ><;;
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I swear I'm going to get a heart attack from this game.
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Best regroups and starts teching up.
Boxer doing similarly, his econ's bit hit hard.
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what a bad move
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2 zeal and 1 goon enter boxer's base and start raping shit. zealots go down, goon starts dancing away from SCV's.
goon retreats and is joined by another. dead marines everywhere.
bunker goes up for boxer.
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United States17042 Posts
Too bad for boxer- There's almost no way he can recover- he has 0 scv's mining.
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This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best.
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shit boxer in huge trouble!
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boxer's bunker gets taken down, boxer is down to ~8 scv's , with 1 mining and 0 marines.
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On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best.
Are you kidding me?
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boxer gg
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On October 22 2008 14:18 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best. Are you kidding me?
Clearly, he was too good ><;;
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On October 22 2008 14:18 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best. Are you kidding me?
Obviously he's not!
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Why is that disgraceful? Total respect for Boxer's style of wanting to make things interesting.
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Damn map, not even close to a good game there.
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Awww man...the first pro match I watch in forever and this happens...damn
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That was brutal, Best surprised there. Good on him, mixing it up.
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could boxer have done something different to get ahead?
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On October 22 2008 14:18 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best. Are you kidding me?
I was PRAYING for a good game. And then best comes along and does this not even hidden proxy gate right up in Boxer's face, and THEN blocks off his wall with another pylon for a shield bat!?! I mean sure it was a smart, well excecuted play, but FUCK THAT he insulted Boxer's honor!
(And yes, I am kidding. I just get emotional when Boxer loses like that.)
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this is the ideal map for cheesing... i don't see what the fuss is about. Best also cheesed someone else on this map. i don't remember who it was though
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This was probably the best sort of game to be expected. Best played a super aggressive game instead of going 200/200 and rolling over his opponent like he does for every other Terran.
(And yes, I am kidding. I just get emotional when Boxer loses like that.)
Okay. Sorry.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Boxer wanted to beat up BeSt once he goes back to SKT1...
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On October 22 2008 14:21 ClouD.BreaK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:18 Nitan wrote:On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best. Are you kidding me? I was PRAYING for a good game. And then best comes along and does this not even hidden proxy gate right up in Boxer's face, and THEN blocks off his wall with another pylon for a shield bat!?! I mean sure it was a smart, well excecuted play, but FUCK THAT he insulted Boxer's honor! (And yes, I am kidding. I just get emotional when Boxer loses like that.)
hidden proxy right in boxer's face?
best played a good strat and made a fun game to watch.
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My Boxer fanboyism is overwhelming me to yell curses at Best, but i have to admit that was a smart proxy with that shield battery; very nice!
I think Boxer miscalculated Best's forces outside his base when he lifted his rax, which kind of sealed the deal for him =/
Now lets hope Oversky and Foru can overcome their foes and bring it to ACE!
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On October 22 2008 14:20 GarlicPepper wrote: could boxer have done something different to get ahead?
He would have had to scout earlier- that first zeal was up so early, and making sure that boxer couldn't wall off was really pretty good by best.
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I think there was really only 2 options for boxer there: 1. Simcity with rax and CC 2. Scout the proxy with an SCV and pull SCVs to kill it.
I don't get why he didn't at least scout his nat for shit like that, its happened in like half the games on this map.
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On October 22 2008 14:22 Ginseng wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if Boxer wanted to beat up BeSt once he goes back to SKT1...
When Boxer will go back to SKT1, best will get moved to the B team
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On October 22 2008 14:23 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:21 ClouD.BreaK wrote:On October 22 2008 14:18 Nitan wrote:On October 22 2008 14:17 ClouD.BreaK wrote: This is disgusting. You're a god damn disgrace Best. Are you kidding me? I was PRAYING for a good game. And then best comes along and does this not even hidden proxy gate right up in Boxer's face, and THEN blocks off his wall with another pylon for a shield bat!?! I mean sure it was a smart, well excecuted play, but FUCK THAT he insulted Boxer's honor! (And yes, I am kidding. I just get emotional when Boxer loses like that.) hidden proxy right in boxer's face? best played a good strat and made a fun game to watch.
On October 22 2008 14:21 ClouD.BreaK wrote: (And yes, I am kidding. I just get emotional when Boxer loses like that.)
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Also I was looking for a good game but best strat was better than boxer
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Damn I was looking forward to a more long and epic match. There was so much excitement for this match...
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United States17042 Posts
next game up, s2 vs oversky.
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I support Best cheesing. You will for sure resent him for doing it against Boxer but it means that BeSt's style is deviating and that we could be in for some interesting games in the future. Or BeSt really needs to practice against Stork.
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s2 is in bottom right, oversky is in bottom left if i can read correctly.
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Game two started. Andromeda. Oversky bottom left, s2 bottom right.
s2 scouting in right direction, Oversky isn't.
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cmon devouers and defilers
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How did this map suddenly become balanced PvZ? Teams feel pretty safe sending out zergs here, curious.
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oversky's spire is gonna be out way before s2's. i think s2 will have to use spore colony to defend or all in lings to win now
edit: whoops had colors switched :S
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On October 22 2008 14:35 thunk wrote: How did this map suddenly become balanced PvZ? Teams feel pretty safe sending out zergs here, curious.
which map, guessing andromada?
overksy dosen't yet have a lair, isn't mining gas- he must think that he can go for a ling break.
Correctly, he goes for it, and it has to work. He gets the ramp- let's see what s2 does about it. sunken up for s2
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overksy just started mining gas in his main again, starting up a spore colony in the nat/main to defend, started teching to lair.
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Andromeda is zvp weighted, and tvz weighted. They must have felt that zvz would be fine, zvp is awesome, and knew that the T's wouldn't be used on this map.
s2 going for the counter break i don't think overksy has the number of lings that he needs to hold this off. Overksy pulls drones, spire is still building for oversky. 4 lings left in oversky's base, but about a control group sitting outside. The lings take out the sunken, overksy is barely holding on. I think that the econ in terms of gas is basically even....
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wow sloppy muta control by s2, ran them right by spore colonies
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United States17042 Posts
1 base 2 hatch hive from s2? interesting.
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s2 still on one base, Oversky throwing down 9 oclock expo
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OP, I love your Interesting Facts but man, please stay around for the match so you can update with results!!
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greater spire for s2
oversky's queens nest going down now. oversky loses 9 oclock to lings.
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s2 GG'SSSSSSSSSSSS!
Oversky massed mutas and just started raping s2's main (and only base), including his 5 spores and all his mutas.
imo that was HUGE. a nice comeback from an early disadvantage and constantly losing drones.
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On October 22 2008 14:35 Vivi57 wrote: cmon devouers and defilers looks like you got your wish. haha this'll be fun.
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On October 22 2008 14:49 Felagund wrote:looks like you got your wish. haha this'll be fun.
Thank god the game wasn't that long xD although i'm hoping that this match doesn't last that much longer.
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Has any T1 Zerg won a single game since the start of the proleague season?
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Too bad, andromeda is the only map that makes high econ zvz
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United States12607 Posts
Hello, anyone have the sportslive link for this match? It'd be much appreciated.
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On October 22 2008 14:50 PoP wrote: Has any T1 Zerg won a single game since the start of the proleague season?
Neither rumble or gorush has won yet this year, and those are the top 2 skt1 zergs ...
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Awww.
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United States12607 Posts
Thank you so much ClouD.Break and PoP!!!!
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I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match.
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next up
(T)Fantasy < RaiD Assault 2 > (Z)MuMyung
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On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match.
how do you watch both?
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The fact that Rumble and Gorush are classified as "Top Zergs" for any team indicates how weak SKT's Zerg lineup is.
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On October 22 2008 14:55 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match. how do you watch both?
I just have them both open and turn the sound off on one. So when Oversky's game finished I switched over and saw the end.
Sometimes I quickly switch over to the OGN/STX match for a second just to see if there is anything interesting going on. It's not much harder than watching this match and posting here.
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On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match.
Got raped by Fantasy's metal build you mean.
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On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match.
*sigh*
Waterdragon: Andro's ZvP weighted suddenly, a big change from a year ago.
To Pop: Nope, SKT1 zergs are like 0-8 in proleague matches. In all matches, actually, because *gasp* none of them made it into individual leagues.
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On October 22 2008 14:56 ClouD.BreaK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:55 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match. how do you watch both? I just have them both open and turn the sound off on one. So when Oversky's game finished I switched over and saw the end. Sometimes I quickly switch over to the OGN/STX match for a second just to see if there is anything interesting going on. It's not much harder than watching this match and posting here.
both open with the daum sports, or using daum sports and daum player
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This is a bleak day for Zergs, if go.go can win against July...
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On October 22 2008 14:57 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:56 ClouD.BreaK wrote:On October 22 2008 14:55 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match. how do you watch both? I just have them both open and turn the sound off on one. So when Oversky's game finished I switched over and saw the end. Sometimes I quickly switch over to the OGN/STX match for a second just to see if there is anything interesting going on. It's not much harder than watching this match and posting here. both open with the daum sports, or using daum sports and daum player
Daum sports. Tabs in Firefox.
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On October 22 2008 14:57 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match. Got raped by Fantasy's metal build you mean. I dunno, there were no dropships and go.go did kind of a shitty job of vulture harassing, at least early.
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More mech play from Fantasy, or will he standard? Either way I don't like mumyung's chances =/
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United States17042 Posts
Thanks Cloud.break. I've got it working
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oov should play z for skt and will win proleague EZ.
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The funny thing is, the most famous T player on Raid Assault II? iloveOov. And Fantasy is Oov's protegee, no doubt.
Fantasy will put up a show. I predict a rushed starport.
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On October 22 2008 14:57 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 14:54 ClouD.BreaK wrote: I'd just like everyone to know that July just got raped by go.go's metal build on Destination in the OGN/STX match. Got raped by Fantasy's metal build you mean.
Got raped by iloveoov's metal build you mean lolololol give credit to the originator.
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the close starts do favor it. Fantasy at 12, MuMyung at 6.
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On October 22 2008 15:02 fw wrote: oov should play z for skt and will win proleague EZ.
And Kingdom, too.
And to think, they could have picked up Lux.
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fantasy is getting a refinery
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Was that a twelve pool with gas i just saw from MuMyung?
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could fantasy be going for the metal build again? MuMyung's second hatch is at his ramp, and he already has lair tech up.
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This looks interesting, I'm curious how fantasy will react.
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fast startport, as predicted, although it looks like lair tech is going to come slightly behind. Zerg's econ is gonna be hurt though from the fast tech.
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science vessel rush!? lol
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science facility going up after port, no wraith, control tower going up.
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Ahh, the old zerg wall-in into 1 base mutas.
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That's what I thought. He's going to have to make that one irridate count.
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I like how he hid most of his marines. Watching fantasy play makes me want to go play some TvZs
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On October 22 2008 15:09 Fontong wrote: Ahh, the old zerg wall-in into 1 base mutas.
That's exactly what I was expecting too. Go figure.
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On October 22 2008 15:10 thunk wrote: That's what I thought. He's going to have to make that one irridate count. IT DID!
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mumyung's mutas burn from fantasy's irradiate rush haha
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United States17042 Posts
that irridate did in fact prevent muta harass...it might have been an adapted build from the scouting of the fast lair?
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MuMyung really couldn't challenge those 5 marines with all his mutas? Seems silly to wait for irradiate to finish before trying some aggressive muta play.
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On October 22 2008 15:10 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I like how he hid most of his marines. Watching fantasy play makes me want to go play some TvZs
The funny thing is, he doesn't have a winning TvZ record. At least Yellow's over 50%. I think.
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lol, 2 vessels now. I love fantasy's ingenious builds. This guy is awesome to watch.
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Your guys' stream is way ahead of mine I think.
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On October 22 2008 15:11 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:10 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I like how he hid most of his marines. Watching fantasy play makes me want to go play some TvZs The funny thing is, he doesn't have a winning TvZ record. At least Yellow's over 50%. I think.
if he wins this game he's over 50%, but he really hasn't played enough games to figure out if he's any good aht the mu or not.
at least mymung is getting the sci vessels
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On October 22 2008 15:11 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:10 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I like how he hid most of his marines. Watching fantasy play makes me want to go play some TvZs The funny thing is, he doesn't have a winning TvZ record. At least Yellow's over 50%. I think. Entertainment has more of an impact on me than just winning. He's been a beast lately anyways.
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On October 22 2008 15:11 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:10 Dr.Dragoon wrote: I like how he hid most of his marines. Watching fantasy play makes me want to go play some TvZs The funny thing is, he doesn't have a winning TvZ record. At least Yellow's over 50%. I think.
dude, he's played NINE TvZs in his career. Career winrate is meaningless at that game count. Just look at his recent results: owning GGPlay.
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On October 22 2008 15:12 thunk wrote: Your guys' stream is way ahead of mine I think.
Probably becuase i'm the only one at the house currently using the internet. It actually helps a lot.
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Mumyung sacrificing his mutas to kills off science vessels, fantasy has 2 tanks out and is setting a bunker on the path above Mumyung's nat.
Edit: wow tanks are in range of hatchery.
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Lurker ling now out for MuMyung, fourth hatch at third base has started in the upper right. Fantasy has the top of one of MuMyung's ramps, but he's going to need to watch out for the flank.
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mumyung tries to flank, but fantasy scouts it somehow and moves to intercept. He's also sieged outside mumyung's nat. Not sure what mumyung can do at this point.
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Man, 2 bunkers+2 tanks take out a lot of lurker ling from MuMyung- he dosen't look like he's in that great of shape. His nat is getting hit pretty hard
MuMyung gg's
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LOL, mumyung is just suiciding up the ramp into fantasy's sieged tanks and bunkers...nice move
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How come Mumyung is so fail most of the time?
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On October 22 2008 15:15 jwd241224 wrote: LOL, mumyung is just suiciding up the ramp into fantasy's sieged tanks and bunkers...nice move
had to - was gg after he didn't manage tot ake it out.
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If this goes to another ace game and SKT loses, I will be absolutely sunk inside. Go on canata, close this out.
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Mumyung =
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hahah yeah mumyung stood no chance...
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On October 22 2008 15:18 HaXxorIzed wrote: If this goes to another ace game and SKT loses, I will be absolutely sunk inside. Go on canata, close this out.
Canata will win just foru
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On October 22 2008 15:16 Fish_Baguettes wrote: How come Mumyung is so fail most of the time?
Don't blame Mumyung too much. Sure he did play like a dumbass at times, but he did what he had to in order to try and win the game. Fantasy's been rolling everyone lately with his new TvZ build, so I don't blame Mumyung too much.
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On October 22 2008 15:19 dekuschrub wrote: hahah yeah mumyung stood no chance...
his build ended up getting countered almost perfectly by fantasy- he's on top of his game. and mumyung didn't exactly have the most standard of builds either.
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Foru's lost 6 PvT's in a row - can he overcome Canata?
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On October 22 2008 15:20 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:16 Fish_Baguettes wrote: How come Mumyung is so fail most of the time? Don't blame Mumyung too much. Sure he did play like a dumbass at times, but he did what he had to in order to try and win the game. Fantasy's been rolling everyone lately with his new TvZ build, so I don't blame Mumyung too much.
While I agree Fantasy on somewhat of a roll, that wasn't his new metal build. That was a...sci vessel rush build?
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yes..he will channel the spirit of wcg 2005 or something like that.
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Uhh, Foru's actually playing, cool.
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On October 22 2008 15:23 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:20 Roffles wrote:On October 22 2008 15:16 Fish_Baguettes wrote: How come Mumyung is so fail most of the time? Don't blame Mumyung too much. Sure he did play like a dumbass at times, but he did what he had to in order to try and win the game. Fantasy's been rolling everyone lately with his new TvZ build, so I don't blame Mumyung too much. While I agree Fantasy on somewhat of a roll, that wasn't his new metal build. That was a...sci vessel rush build?
it was a good counter to the 1 base muta build that mumyung tried with the tech that he had. Think about it- he already has fact+start of a starport, and sees the spire start to go up. Might as well make the sci vessel, because the scourge would chew up the wraith.
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again its iloveoovs build he even used some variation of it against h.o.t forever at the beginning of the season, but i suppose thats just me being a nitpicker. And he didnt roll everyone with the build just umm like GGplay.
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On October 22 2008 15:23 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:20 Roffles wrote:On October 22 2008 15:16 Fish_Baguettes wrote: How come Mumyung is so fail most of the time? Don't blame Mumyung too much. Sure he did play like a dumbass at times, but he did what he had to in order to try and win the game. Fantasy's been rolling everyone lately with his new TvZ build, so I don't blame Mumyung too much. While I agree Fantasy on somewhat of a roll, that wasn't his new metal build. That was a...sci vessel rush build? I doubt he planned on rushing for sci vessels. My take on it was that fantasy adapted to mumyung's 1 base muta play since he already had a refinery and factory.
Edit: You beat me to it, curses!
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Go fOru, play like your 20 again!
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foru vs canata on destination. Should be interesting
foru at 5 canata at 11
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standard openings for both players.
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On October 22 2008 15:23 mog87 wrote: yes..he will channel the spirit of wcg 2005 or something like that.
Good memory! fOru did indeed win WCG Korea 2005. Here's some more trivia: at WCG Korea 2006, where he was the number one seed, he was beaten in group stages by none other than BeSt[HyO]. At this point BeSt was a nobody that had qualified for WCG Korea by playing through the 128-player amateur tournament. Along his way he beat (amongst others) a very young Lomo, 2-1.
After beating fOru, BeSt went on to lose 1-2 to Midas, who eventually won finished second at WCG 2006. Not bad for some amateur nobody, eh?
Edit: Midas finished second, not first. Thanks SkyLark.
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canata cleverly hid away his scv to get later scouting, looks like the beginning of a fd from canata.
1 zeal into 1 gate range from foru
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Make 50 gates, and pls win this time fOru
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foru snipes two rines with his first zealot, then expos.
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citadel from foru! (still on one gate)
2nd gate and robo fac going up now, as well as temp archieves!
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clever micro from foru lowers the marine count from 3 to 1
1 gate range into expand from foru, 4 marines + tank allows canata to clear his nat. Starport tech almost finished for canata. Wonder what he's gonna put in the dropship.
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On October 22 2008 15:31 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:23 mog87 wrote: yes..he will channel the spirit of wcg 2005 or something like that. Good memory! fOru did indeed win WCG Korea 2005. Here's some more trivia: at WCG Korea 2006, where he was the number one seed, he was beaten in group stages by none other than BeSt[HyO]. At this point BeSt was a nobody that had qualified for WCG Korea by playing through the 128-player amateur tournament. Along his way he beat (amongst others) a very young Lomo, 2-1. After beating fOru, BeSt went on to lose 1-2 to Midas, who eventually won WCG 2006. Not bad for some amateur nobody, eh? Midas won the Korean selection seed for WCG 2006?? Didn't Oov win first then July took second and Baby Bear was the third placer?
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drop from canata stops mining time for a while, kills 4 scv's, but more importantly scouts the dt drop. Ebay going up for canata, he should be able to get it up in time. Expo just went up as well for canata.
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WHY DOESN'T CANATA FINISH THE 99% TURRET UNDER HIS EBAY
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Wow, Foru rapes quite a few SCVs.
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both players harrasing with dt/vult drops. seems pretty even right now.
wraith out for canata!
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On October 22 2008 15:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:31 jwd241224 wrote:On October 22 2008 15:23 mog87 wrote: yes..he will channel the spirit of wcg 2005 or something like that. Good memory! fOru did indeed win WCG Korea 2005. Here's some more trivia: at WCG Korea 2006, where he was the number one seed, he was beaten in group stages by none other than BeSt[HyO]. At this point BeSt was a nobody that had qualified for WCG Korea by playing through the 128-player amateur tournament. Along his way he beat (amongst others) a very young Lomo, 2-1. After beating fOru, BeSt went on to lose 1-2 to Midas, who eventually won WCG 2006. Not bad for some amateur nobody, eh? Midas won the Korean selection seed for WCG 2006?? Didn't Oov win first then July took second and Baby Bear was the third placer? He was seeded first in the Korean tournament, meaning that he was expected to take first in the Korean selection process (and ended up taking third after Oov and July). That's what I get from that paragraph.
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On October 22 2008 15:34 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:31 jwd241224 wrote:On October 22 2008 15:23 mog87 wrote: yes..he will channel the spirit of wcg 2005 or something like that. Good memory! fOru did indeed win WCG Korea 2005. Here's some more trivia: at WCG Korea 2006, where he was the number one seed, he was beaten in group stages by none other than BeSt[HyO]. At this point BeSt was a nobody that had qualified for WCG Korea by playing through the 128-player amateur tournament. Along his way he beat (amongst others) a very young Lomo, 2-1. After beating fOru, BeSt went on to lose 1-2 to Midas, who eventually won WCG 2006. Not bad for some amateur nobody, eh? Midas won the Korean selection seed for WCG 2006?? Didn't Oov win first then July took second and Baby Bear was the third placer?
Ah, good call. My b, Midas got 2nd and oov won.
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On October 22 2008 15:37 jwd241224 wrote: WHY DOESN'T CANATA FINISH THE 99% TURRET UNDER HIS EBAY Yeah I didn't understand it either.
Seems like forU got the worst of that harass.
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canata's lucky that the dt's didn't minedrag one of those into his scv line.
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stargate for foru, obviously arbs
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another drop coming in for canata on foru, but canata manages to get the dropship, so no problem.
canata looks like he's gearing up for a 6 fac push- let's see if foru knows how to handle it.
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Haha I love the double standard in the posts regarding the Boxer/BeSt game
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Finally the dropship dies. That was some pretty good dropship play from Canata, I don't know why we don't see more of that in TvPs. Considering that vultures pay for themselves if they do ANY damage and are also worth it for just the spider mines, I would think people would play vultures more. I guess Destination encourages it though, since the main is utterly massive.
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Time for a Destination macrofest...I think Canata has to have the advantage in this sort of game.....right?
- scared T1 fan
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third going up for canata, arbs just started building for foru
8 gates going up for foru, but i don't think that they'll be fast enough. Arb just popped, so I think that canata totally missed the timing window (2 more min to totally miss it ><;
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On October 22 2008 15:41 jwd241224 wrote: Time for a Destination macrofest...I think Canata has to have the advantage in this sort of game.....right?
- scared T1 fan Yeah, his harass definitely did more damage than forU's. Considering that it is a terran favoring map as well, this is Canata's game to lose.
Edit: Also forU's record for PvT sucks
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On October 22 2008 15:41 Fontong wrote: Finally the dropship dies. That was some pretty good dropship play from Canata, I don't know why we don't see more of that in TvPs. Considering that vultures pay for themselves if they do ANY damage and are also worth it for just the spider mines, I would think people would play vultures more. I guess Destination encourages it though, since the main is utterly massive.
to tech up to the dropship he had to get detection in the form of turrets really really late, and we saw the problem with that in the dt harass (which wasn't exactly fast).
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foru recalls in canata's main, if he does enough damage this is gonna be gg
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This doesn't look good for fOru, it looks like his macro can't keep up here. Canata's timing push is working so far.
But wait....arb headed for a recall!
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Oh man successful recall with canatas army nowhere to be seen. Lots of SCVs die and a good storm on vultures.
Cleaned up now, but the CC died.
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Canata does a sloppy job defending the recall, but fOru makes up for it by missing almost all of his storms and losing his arbiter to a turret....
lol this game makes me sad
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another nce storm drop from foru- if he keeps this up he's got this game no problem. Another recall headed towards canata's main
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another recall in the main
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Foru got the armory, has 4 bases mining- I think that he's going to do just fine in this game xD
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What the fuck is Canata doing, it seems like he's stopped all activity beyond trying to squeeze his units around in his crowded main.
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Foru runs in to clean up canata because canata's spread too thin from the recalls
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forU moving out while Canata was cleaning up his main. He's doing tons of damage since Canata has to attack while out of position with most of his army. forU's got this.
Can I be first to call Boxer's revenge against Best in an ace?
Edit: Though it would SUCK if Boxer lost twice in one day...
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Canata saves his third, still building a cc in main, I believe foru is working on his 6th base. I think that foru's macro falls apart whenever he's attacking ><;;
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On October 22 2008 15:47 EvoChamber wrote: holy shit
foru is for me
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Looks like both proleague matches go to ace game ^^
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This game is giving me the goosebumps
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Canata's economy is in shambles. I think this is over.
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Canata is really playing like garbage this season. Makes me sad considering he was such a clutch player in the 08 PL. He needs more TvTs to get his confidence back - but seriously, this is fOru we're talking about here.
Please don't tell me that T1 is about to lose to ACE. Send BeSt out to end this shit.
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On October 22 2008 15:48 GarlicPepper wrote: Looks like both proleague matches go to ace game ^^ I see it too. I'm excited xD
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LEE JAEHOON STASIS FIELD PSI STORM LEE JAEHOON STATIS....
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another big break from foru, even though he stasis's the front tanks.
foru is pushing at the front of canata's nat, canata's probably going to save it by using tanks from his main.
canata loses his nat nexus
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On October 22 2008 15:50 Jumperer wrote: PVT IS FORU'S PLAYGROUND.
I haven't heard anyone say that in years
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Canata GG's. HUUUUUUUGE!
What a great game by foru!
Did everyone see his face during the salute. The face of a killer.
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canata GG's goes to ace match !
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Aiya. This is going to ace, apparently.
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. NICE JOB ForU
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If T1 fucks around and sends someone not named Best, then they deserve to lose.
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Lol as i predicted oversky and foru win. But how did he win with a base not mining? He must be very good.
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god damn, why does SKT keep on using Canata and hyuk??? They are both awful with 1 decent matchup. If they send out Hyuk for Ace im gonna cry.
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there was a reason canata always showed up only and ONLY against T..
he should stick playing against T, jesus..
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GG!!! Yaaaaaaa!
Completely unexpected victory from forU on a T>P map! It's nice to see a 27 year old playing like he's 22 again.
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those were some pretty nice recalls :D
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Do Jaewook time. ACE should send Oversky, Boxer is toast to BeSt on such a macro friendly map. I don't even think there is any way to cheese on Harmony, the bases are so far apart.
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Foru's map control during that game was fucking impeccable
Perfect defense against dropship, and nice expansion/recall combo.
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Cmon let it be Fantasy vs Boxer!!
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SKT1 - Fantasy or Best for their ace match would be pretty safe.
If only ACE had the Anytime/Casy/Reach on the bench, maybe ACE will send Oversky to snipe for Best?
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Oh snap. That was ridiculous by ForU ... he switched back and forth between theaters beautifully
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On October 22 2008 15:53 Tekin wrote: Cmon let it be Fantasy vs Boxer!!
LOL
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Ah, even as a hardcore T1 fan I have to appreciate that look on fOru's face...pure joy. The girlies are screaming too!
Well played by him.
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Tears of joy here, ForU HAS WON ANOTHER ONE ON ONE since ages! Yaaaah 
I don't even care about my liquibet anymore, ACE can win vs T1 for all I care
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want to play the guess who's going to get picked for ace game?
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On October 22 2008 15:53 Tekin wrote: Cmon let it be Fantasy vs Boxer!!
Haha, real Boxer vs Look-alike.
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On October 22 2008 15:54 clazziquai wrote:LOL
I guess i'll cross my fingers for it, although I'm not sure what boxer would do. hopefully bbs i suppose.
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Actually, thinking a bit more about it, T1 will probably not send BeSt. They have always been stingy with him in ace games, and he needs all the psychological rest he can get with his big OSL semi coming up. Plus, fantasy, Midas, or even Bisu would all be safe picks against ACE.
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:\ wow.
Both the terran (excluding fantasy) and zerg lineups in SKT have been playing like complete trash
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On October 22 2008 15:55 jwd241224 wrote: Actually, thinking a bit more about it, T1 will probably not send BeSt. They have always been stingy with him in ace games, and he needs all the psychological rest he can get with his big OSL semi coming up. Plus, fantasy, Midas, or even Bisu would all be safe picks against ACE.
come to think of it, almost anyone would be a safe bet against ace...
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I would be so happy if it is Boxer vs Fantasy XD
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On October 22 2008 15:54 Naib wrote:Tears of joy here, ForU HAS WON ANOTHER ONE ON ONE since ages! Yaaaah  I don't even care about my liquibet anymore, ACE can win vs T1 for all I care  Busted that 7 game losing streak wide open.
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On October 22 2008 15:55 ArvickHero wrote: :\ wow.
Both the terran (excluding fantasy) and zerg lineups in SKT have been playing like complete trash
They only use 1a2a3a4a in skt apparently xD
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No 50 gates?
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On October 22 2008 15:56 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 15:54 Naib wrote:Tears of joy here, ForU HAS WON ANOTHER ONE ON ONE since ages! Yaaaah  I don't even care about my liquibet anymore, ACE can win vs T1 for all I care  Busted that 7 game losing streak wide open.
First win in over 400 days? That's more impressive.
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On October 22 2008 15:56 Felagund wrote:No 50 gates? 
He lost that game >.> and hopefully he learned his lesson
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they prolly send out fantasy or midas to snipe oversky, boxers too unreliable
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BeSt losing an ace match to break his confidence prior to losing to the Albatoss Plz!!
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Did no one else notice foru's base with no stopped probes, i.e they werent mining? And also was his macro pretty bad..seemed like he had a bit less units than he should have, but the positioning and usage was excellent, minus the arbitor that died to a shuttle and the hilarious scv storms. GG either way. Canata needs to stick to TvT.
ACE MATCH FORU VS BEST THE REMATCH?!!? Honestly if they think Best is going in they should send Oversky, but if skt knows this theyll send in Bisu or Midas(clutch master of ace last season).
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sword in the moon.
TvT, I wouldn't be surprised if canata was the one they sent
boxer for ace almost certainly.
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On October 22 2008 15:58 mog87 wrote: Did no one else notice foru's base with no stopped probes, i.e they werent mining? And also was his macro pretty bad..seemed like he had a bit less units than he should have, but the positioning and usage was excellent, minus the arbitor that died to a shuttle and the hilarious scv storms. GG either way. Canata needs to stick to TvT.
ACE MATCH FORU VS BEST THE REMATCH?!!?
foru didn't play that well, just good enough to win. and did you see the look on his face? sometimes, playing good enough to win is, in fact, enough. Especially for ace.
I think I would rather see boxer vs pretty much anyone xD
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I bet it will be Midas vs Boxer for ace
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fantasy v daezang. Interesting.
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ohhh cmon boxer i hope boxer
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and my hopes is shattered!
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LIM YO HWAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless my understanding of korean over laggy stream is fail? >.>
edit - its daezang, poo
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OH they sent daezang in anticipation of a terran coming out, very smart
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FORGET LIQUIBET! LETS GO DAEZANG!
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ahhh Daezhang, good choice from Ace.
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Fantasy vs Daezang. Best and Fantasy do look alike though I think skt members start looking like each other after a year or so
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Daezang?? ugh.... shoulda sent Oversky or Boxer.
edit: Oh I though skt picked Best, those skinny glasses guys kinda look alike. I guess Daezang has a chance now.
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Ballsy move from ACE, sending a protoss when there was a chance of SKT choosing Best.
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so is everyone's but this map has only been played like 5 times? something like that. And if boxer hasn't really prepared, then his mechanics arn't that great right now, even though he is boxer.
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Ah, I thought it was BeSt in a PvP and I was so excited....
Let's go now fantasy!
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fantasy v daezang. This must be the pre-show on what were gonna see in incruit league finals vs who ever toss he plays
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Daezang's as good of a choice as any, really. Especially if he specifically practiced for htis.
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On October 22 2008 16:03 Samurai- wrote: fantasy is practising like mad against P anyway, he should crush him
Yes, and TvP has always been his strongest matchup as well.
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Actually, isn't Harmony a really hard map for PvT?
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Screw liquibet! PARK DAE MANNNNNNNNNN!
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On October 22 2008 16:03 Plutonium wrote: Ballsy move from ACE, sending a protoss when there was a chance of SKT choosing Best.
Yea seriously. Although daezang might have practiced for this map, just becuase ace players usually don't have individual league obligations.
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On October 22 2008 16:02 Bond(i2) wrote: OH they sent daezang in anticipation of a terran coming out, very smart Unless you are being sarcastic, how does that make sense? Eight straight losses against Terran?
But if forU can do it...Daezang fighting!!
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On October 22 2008 16:05 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:02 Bond(i2) wrote: OH they sent daezang in anticipation of a terran coming out, very smart Unless you are being sarcastic, how does that make sense? Eight straight losses against Terran? But if forU can do it...Daezang fighting!!
if forU can win against canata, then anyone can win from ace xD
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On October 22 2008 16:04 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:03 Plutonium wrote: Ballsy move from ACE, sending a protoss when there was a chance of SKT choosing Best. Yea seriously. Although daezang might have practiced for this map, just becuase ace players usually don't have individual league obligations.
There was no chance best would be chosen. He has a huge match against stork tomorrow and all odds pointed towards a t being chosed on this map.
Best even prepared a cheese vs boxer so he could focus more on his bo5 with stork.
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ACE is trying to break some incredible losing streaks today!
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On October 22 2008 16:05 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:04 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On October 22 2008 16:03 Plutonium wrote: Ballsy move from ACE, sending a protoss when there was a chance of SKT choosing Best. Yea seriously. Although daezang might have practiced for this map, just becuase ace players usually don't have individual league obligations. There was no chance best would be chosen. He has a huge match against stork tomorrow and all odds pointed towards a t being chosed on this map. Best even prepared a cheese vs boxer so he could focus more on his bo5 with stork.
which supports my point 
they're still showing the replay- i guess setting up the ace takes a long time.
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On October 22 2008 16:05 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:04 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:On October 22 2008 16:03 Plutonium wrote: Ballsy move from ACE, sending a protoss when there was a chance of SKT choosing Best. Yea seriously. Although daezang might have practiced for this map, just becuase ace players usually don't have individual league obligations. There was no chance best would be chosen. He has a huge match against stork tomorrow and all odds pointed towards a t being chosed on this map. Best even prepared a cheese vs boxer so he could focus more on his bo5 with stork. No, he cheesed versus boxer becuase every PvT on that map involves cheese.
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I think Fantasy should be able to win but I would watch out. Daezang really impressed me last season especially his pvt.
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The Pre-show on whats gonna happen in incruit finals.
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On October 22 2008 16:05 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:02 Bond(i2) wrote: OH they sent daezang in anticipation of a terran coming out, very smart Unless you are being sarcastic, how does that make sense? Eight straight losses against Terran?
How does it not make sense? That's a fantastic record when you're on team ACE :p
Sorry... I like them too.
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I am guessing DZ must have some sort of build prepared on this map. It's an easy one to prepare for since you can basically guarantee a Terran opponent. This would also be a good time to bust out the top-secret build because it's a very high-stakes game (especially if you're ACE and will never play in the playoffs anyway).
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Did anyone notice that the lyrics to the song went "dance, fucker, dance."
Like, seriously.
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results so far? Post in spoiler please
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daezang starts at 1, fantasy starts at bottom left at 7
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+ Show Spoiler + (P)BeSt < Chupung-Ryeong > (T)BoxeR (Z)s2 < Andromeda > (Z)OversKy (T)Fantasy < RaiD Assault 2 > (Z)MuMyung (T)Canata < Destination > (P)fOru Closer < Harmony > Closer
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On October 22 2008 16:10 ClouD.BreaK wrote: Did anyone notice that the lyrics to the song went "dance, fucker, dance."
Like, seriously. Wait, is just me or does his post involve the word "fuck." Ban?
oh, mine does too.
btw, daezang...14NEX?? BALLZ
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14 nex from Daezang, standard from Fantasy
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ya baby 14 nex cross positions, the stage is set now GO ACE!!
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let's see how this goes, DZ has got some ballz
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got scouted, 2 gate range goon going up (standard after 14 nex)
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On October 22 2008 16:05 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
if forU can win against canata, then anyone can win from ace xD
Canata is bad against P and worse against all match ups this season.
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Could this be a return of the Daezang who made the CBNC on the power rank last year? The Stoic Terran Crushing machine who brought ACE out of last place singlehandedly?
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SKTT1 has not had a zerg win since PL has started??
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On October 22 2008 16:12 Bond(i2) wrote: ya baby 14 nex cross positions, the stage is set now GO ACE!! Yeah, they had the maphack prepared so that DZ would know if it was ok to 14nex.
Actually this map seems very large, so yeah 14nex is a good idea already.
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fantasy scouts the fast nexus, but as far as we know he's still going 1fac expo.
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On October 22 2008 16:15 SuperJongMan wrote: SKTT1 has not had a zerg win since PL has started??
Yep. Pop Already noted this. They're 0-8 for the season thus far.
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On October 22 2008 16:15 SuperJongMan wrote: SKTT1 has not had a zerg win since PL has started??
yes, thunk said 0-8, which i believe
vult harass got pushed back, third gate plus obs just started.
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Thanks for the results, thanks for the live reports!
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On October 22 2008 16:15 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2008 16:12 Bond(i2) wrote: ya baby 14 nex cross positions, the stage is set now GO ACE!! Yeah, they had the maphack prepared so that DZ would know if it was ok to 14nex. Actually this map seems very large, so yeah 14nex is a good idea already.
Yes, this map is very large so 14nex is safer from that perspective, but the nat is also situated such that holding off a 2fac push would be near impossible. Terran can siege behind the walls that are everywhere and pretty much become invincible. So, basically this was still a ballsy move. If they were at close positions and fantasy scouted correctly, I don't think DZ would be able to hold against 2fac.
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Speed first on vultures lol?
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On October 22 2008 16:15 SuperJongMan wrote: SKTT1 has not had a zerg win since PL has started?? Well all their Zerg sucks, so its not very suprising. SKT should open the wallet and buy some good Zerg, then they will be invincible !
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Fantasy didn't punish Daezang for the 14 nexus. This is a hard map to 14 nexsu on, FBH made Tempest pay, if my memory serves me well.
Edit: Wrong map.I remember incorrectly.
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On October 22 2008 16:16 General Nuke Em wrote: Speed first on vultures lol?
Probably because their bases are so far away. This is pretty standard.
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Apparently speed first, i guess better for harass. 2 vults get like 8 probe kills before being killed, 4 gates+ obs+shuttle out for dz, now getting his third.
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wow those 2 vultures should have died a long time ago..
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On October 22 2008 16:17 thunk wrote: Fantasy didn't punish Daezang for the 14 nexus. This is a hard map to 14 nexsu on, FBH made Tempest pay, if my memory serves me well. Tanks would take about 2 years to cross that map, I don't think fantasy could have done much to hurt DZ.
Fantasy catches more probes with hiis vultures as they maynard to the 3rd.
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United States17042 Posts
vult harass again gets lots of the probes moving into the third, only 1 goon guarding it. 5 th and 6th gates going up, for dz
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Fantasy's going to miss his 9 fact timing window. Daezang took his 3rd fast and Fantasy's going to miss it.
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Fantasy's timing pushed was just crushed, this is looking very good for DZ.
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United States17042 Posts
he spotted the third going up, but he really couldn't do anything about it. He's going to hafta slow push to his third now, and grad like sin.
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United States12607 Posts
6fac timing from fantasy, let's hope he pulls it off a bit better than Canata did 
edit: WOW my stream is behind
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A;LKSDNF;LAKSND;OAIJSD;OAKNSD;LKANFB;OKANSD;OKNAS;DJNVA;
SKT1. Seriously. Seriously.
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o em gee daezang just raped fantasys push consisting of about 8 tanks + some scv vult with like 14 goons and a shuttle full of zlots
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United States12607 Posts
FANTASY YOU CANNOT ALLOW SK TELECOM T1 TO LOSE TO ACE
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On October 22 2008 16:21 Bond(i2) wrote: o em gee daezang just raped fantasys push consisting of about 8 tanks + some scv vult with like 14 goons and a shuttle full of zlots
yeah but for some reason he had unit advantage, and let more vults annoy his expansion.. he needs to stop vulture flow.
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United States17042 Posts
fantasy's harass is doing really well, but it's not going to be enough with that 14 nex provinding the econ advantage. any guesses as to how many probes have been killed? like 20?
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FUCK YEAH PARK DAE MAN! <33333
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k vults are fucking gay end of story
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Solid vult harass and if Daezang keeps losing units like that Fantasy might be able to bring himself back into the game.
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Lots of probes dying to vulture harass. DZ seriously needs to get 2-3 cannons at each expo.
If anything can get fantasy back in this game, it is to continue the harass. DZ's third definetely not paid off so far due to amount of vulture harass.
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United States12607 Posts
Wait wait...hero mines own all the probes at DZ's third as well as his attempt to break fantasy's second push attempt.
Fantasy now pulling of vulture harass at the 3rd nicely....this game is turning around!
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United States17042 Posts
like 6 cannons would help a lot ot make sure that dz dosen't get harassed to death. he's showing how little playing time that ace gets to get play compared to all of the other pro teams
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That and Daezang has no tech. I think I see leg speed? I can't tell. apparently he does have tech.
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I've stopped trying to count how many probes have died to vulture harassment. DZ could have sealed his lead so easily with a few cannons.
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TvP Practice for the OSL finals... Looks to me like Fantasy won't be winning the OSL from the looks of this game.
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You would think Daezang would learn from the first 5 times fantasy snuck vultures into his probe line...but no.
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United States17042 Posts
gotta love the korean commentators. what are they screaming about besides the 15 kill vult that's still in dz's main...
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soooooooooooo many probes killed this game
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wow vulture harass continues everywhere.. fantasy is out multitasking right now simple as that.
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Make this units count Fantasy. You don't have a lot of them.
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United States12607 Posts
Now Harmony's T>P imbalance is revealed - so many narrow routes for owning with tanks, so many routes for vuture harass.
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This is disgusting, make some fucking cannons Daezang.
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United States17042 Posts
he needs another nex of all things just to make sure he can prodce enough probes to deal with the harass
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SERIOUSLY THIS IS RIDICULOUS WTF
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United States17042 Posts
On October 22 2008 16:24 jwd241224 wrote: Now Harmony's T>P imbalance is revealed - so many narrow routes for owning with tanks, so many routes for vuture harass.
yes, but to balance that out, the rush distance looks like it's huge, so you can get away with the 14 nex pretty easily.
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Roffles
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United States12607 Posts
fantasy's vulture harass has been consistently superb. In OSL vs. BackHo, in PL vs. JangBi, and now vs. DZ.
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Wow, he lost the center push and claws his way back into the game with RIDICULOUSLY effective mines everywhere.
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United States17042 Posts
and the korean girls scream in the background. why on earth cant dc decide to be decisive. although it would be nice if he would wait until the tanks arn't sieged...
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Fantasy you evened up the game. It's even right now.
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Seriously if I worked as a probe for Daezang I would sue his ass for treating his workers baaaad...
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wow
fantasy's forcing so many errors from daezang. he's playing like a champ.
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You're even a little ahead.
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temp out for dz, trying to defeat push again
lost all of his units, got his ht sniped without getting a psistorm down.
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On October 22 2008 16:26 thunk wrote: Fantasy you evened up the game. It's even right now. No, I would say that Fantasy is solidly ahead.
Esp now that Daezang suicided his entire army.
Game is over, SKT>Ace
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temps late
now I understand why they use a shuttle to bring them
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Daezang picks a poor battle. Finish this Fantasy.
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United States17042 Posts
fantasy has way better mechanics than dz, and it's going to show in dz's loss ><;;
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Wow fantasy gets the expansion taken out..
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it's over. daezang gg's.
i'm so sad.
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Fantasy is the new heir to the SKT1 throne?
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goddam vults are so good on this map wow
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
1a2a3a time. GG from Daezang soon.
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Daezang's done. He should gg any moment now.
Fantasy, you are the true heir to the SKT1 throne. T
Game 5 is highly recommended.
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He couldn't wait 10 seconds for templar to get to the battle...
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iirc, oov said he was training fantasy to be the next skt starleague winner.
The season after he said that, fantasy did terrible, but now he's doing really good.
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Way to lose a game Daezang, so fucking disappointing.
7-8 cannons would have ended that harass and secured DZ's lead.
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IF there is one single player i hate, it would be fantasy
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
pooor. just needed some cannons
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Daezang threw the game away, no excuses... could have held on to his early lead, should have done more after winning that first fight in the middle, but instead tried to sit in his base and let vultures dance around him
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GG fucking Daezang sucks it up big time and throws the game. Awful
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United States12607 Posts
Thank god for fantasy......someone had to stop the bleeding at T1.
Now they just need to find any Zerg who can win a game. ANYONE
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NOOOOO PARK DAE MANNNN =[[[[
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Daezang says cannons are for pussies real probes die for Aiur/Shakuras w/e.
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United States17042 Posts
fantasy is on the royal road and is apparently unstoppable. He's now over 50% in tvz, and he's won 6/10, and lost against ggplay, mind, tester, and tempest
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Ughh, Daezang. Just a few more cannons woulda held your lead!
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wow i switched over from the ogn/stx match and when i saw the difference between fantasy's army and dz's army i was like, "wtf??? gg.....no ace salute tonight."
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On October 22 2008 16:29 SuperJongMan wrote: FINALLY we win one.
Amen JongMan. T1 fans represent!
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Far, far too close for comfort there. I doubt fantasy will win the OSL playing like that, but at least he won.
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you guys won against ACE. Congrats!
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On October 22 2008 16:34 Titusmaster6 wrote: wow i switched over from the ogn/stx match and when i saw the difference between fantasy's army and dz's army i was like, "wtf??? gg.....no ace salute tonight."
it was a better picture about 10 minutes before that ><;;
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T1 should seriously be winning more with the ppl they have! But... yay for a win!
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Oh noes! Ace deserved this win...
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
sorry for not updating this sooner
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to anyone who is actually dissing best... i remember boxer once triple bunker rushed yellow.
karma
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fuck yeah fOru won!!! I have to DL that VOD!
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On October 22 2008 22:22 fusionsdf wrote: any games to watch?
Hmm...actually, maybe I'm messed up because I was emotionally invested in the the match but pretty much everything except the Canata game and the ZvZ was worth watching. Some people would even say that the Canata game was watching because ForU's macro was really good. But the Best versus Boxer game, obviously, because it's Best and Boxer. You get to see 1 base SK terran for Fantasy, and a nice come back by Fantasy in games three and five, respectively.
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is awesome32275 Posts
Games went just as % told :3
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3 Lions, just stop making threads for proleague if you don't even bother updating.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On October 22 2008 23:33 clazziquai wrote: 3 Lions, just stop making threads for proleague if you don't even bother updating. i went to bed thinking that the game was being played at 18:30 so i could wake up later and update it. sorry for my idiocy.
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eh
I mean its best if you can update it as it goes on, but if you cant for some reason, just as long as you edit it in first thing in the morning its not that big of a deal
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I don't think he was responding to you, fusion, but to clazziquai...
Honestly guys, if you don't like that he can't update right away (this case he just missed the games were starting at the rare alternate, 14:00), make a quality OP thread yourselves instead of whining. Besides, it's not like he left it there to rot for days, he updated as soon as he came around.
More appreciation, please.
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going up to ace match against ace... skt always has me worried in proleague matches
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boxer vs best was an interesting game.
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Foru's match was freaking awesome haha! The commentators and the fans were extra-excited for him
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United States20661 Posts
On October 23 2008 06:11 Naib wrote: Honestly guys, if you don't like that he can't update right away (this case he just missed the games were starting at the rare alternate, 14:00), make a quality OP thread yourselves instead of whining. Besides, it's not like he left it there to rot for days, he updated as soon as he came around.
More appreciation, please.
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On October 23 2008 06:11 Naib wrote: I don't think he was responding to you, fusion, but to clazziquai...
Honestly guys, if you don't like that he can't update right away (this case he just missed the games were starting at the rare alternate, 14:00), make a quality OP thread yourselves instead of whining. Besides, it's not like he left it there to rot for days, he updated as soon as he came around.
More appreciation, please.
In fact, I have made threads, and I have never failed to deliver.
EDIT :but really it is sort of frustrating when you wake up and want to see results, only to see that it wasn't there and have to dig up the thread. Not that of a deal but I guess it's okay.
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On October 23 2008 10:19 capek wrote: boxer vs best was an interesting game. Although it was a nice game, somehow it felt soooo disappointing. I guess I expected a lot more from The Emperor.
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Same here ramenstyle, I was like ohh come on best do a straight up macro plz..
But don't you all wana watch the games and figure out the results later??
props to 3 lion
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On October 23 2008 12:08 RamenStyle wrote:Although it was a nice game, somehow it felt soooo disappointing. I guess I expected a lot more from The Emperor.
wow, to me it looked like best humiliated boxer.. it was almost sad and made me feel uncomfortable for boxer.. being dominated in an early game of micro... which has always been his forte.
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