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[OSL] Semifinal: GGPlay vs Fantasy - Page 23

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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 17 2008 15:29 GMT
#441
Great job fantasy! No more Zergs for BeSt to play!

Seriously impressive play from this guy, I hope he can do the same in PL.
✌
mrhilton
Profile Joined August 2008
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 15:38:24
October 17 2008 15:34 GMT
#442
guess what? it's funny how many ppl think of best going straight to the finals ... but face it:

best has a flawless record vs p, yes! but remember the winning streak of flash last osl? with a list like that, it is pure destiny to lose upcoming matches...!

it is 2:2 between these two, thats all what counts! best even missed msl!

the stork hater power rank/ kespa rank is listing him above best for a good reason!

stork won one his last proleague games both regular game and final ace! something which even didn't happen last season if I remeber clearly. best on the other hand choked from time to time in important matches...

best played only 3 protosses the last three months (!). yes he won but the rock, m18m (still b samsung) and maybe jangbi arent that impressive. stork on the other hand took out bisu (not just once or twice, backwhore, much)

this is not the final, we are on stork terrain! remember last osl final where everyone thought (including tl) for best to take it? he choked hard big time 0-3 with unspeakable errors making it one of the worst finals in osl ever!

just some facts! honestly I see stork in the finals, making it a very interesting game!


zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 15:51:01
October 17 2008 15:49 GMT
#443
I'd say Stork has 40-50% chance to beat BeSt.

BeSt's strengths - macro, mechanics - are also Stork's strength (just not as ridiculously strong). So BeSt won't be able to easily overpower Stork like he does against other toss. This brings me to the next point...

The key to the match I think will be early game, where BeSt is weakest. Stork has great preparation and timing, and if he can secure an opening advantage, then his mechanics is more than good enough to ride that advantage to victory. On the other hand, if BeSt gets into the mid-game without any disadvantage, then I think the game will favor him in the long run.

BeSt needs to mix it up with his build order to give himself the best chance to win.
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 17 2008 15:51 GMT
#444
Yess I am soososososoos happy Fantasy won. I hope he goes all the way and dominates one of those rat nasty P's
DotA 2 - peteyyytran/IRONBRAH add me for inhouse games/pub games
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 15:53:46
October 17 2008 15:53 GMT
#445
GGPlay looked so lost... his face during the first game on Plasma pretty much summed it up. And his face during game 2. He looked like he was in control in this game, but once he did the drop on Fantasy's natural I was thinking... you know, I bet he waits a few seconds too long, a tank or two will build, and all of his hydras will die, because he is putting too much priority on the scvs. Then when he finally moves to the factories that happens to the t, only his hydras bunched in a nice cluster of 8 or 9, so they die even faster than I thought they would.

Crowd didn't seem particular in it either... seems like they expected GGPlay to have a walk in the park and then realized he was getting thrashed.

Have to hand it to Fantasy though, he played well. It's interesting to see that one effect of Plasma has been to popularize valkyries and mech as a combination a bit.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 17 2008 16:04 GMT
#446
Oh man, GGPlay got demolished...
Graphics
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
October 17 2008 16:20 GMT
#447
On October 18 2008 00:49 zgl wrote:
I'd say Stork has 40-50% chance to beat BeSt.

BeSt's strengths - macro, mechanics - are also Stork's strength (just not as ridiculously strong). So BeSt won't be able to easily overpower Stork like he does against other toss. This brings me to the next point...

The key to the match I think will be early game, where BeSt is weakest. Stork has great preparation and timing, and if he can secure an opening advantage, then his mechanics is more than good enough to ride that advantage to victory. On the other hand, if BeSt gets into the mid-game without any disadvantage, then I think the game will favor him in the long run.

BeSt needs to mix it up with his build order to give himself the best chance to win.

well...i mean also unlike his vZ and to a smaller extent his vT, he perfectly understands pvp, he understands the game flow, strategy, and builds much better than any other matchup
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 17 2008 16:27 GMT
#448
Best's PVP is in a whole other dimension.
Graphics
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
October 17 2008 16:36 GMT
#449
Man, Fantasy is going to get rolled by Best if he faces him in the final. Fantasy can't multitask well at the highest level.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
October 17 2008 16:36 GMT
#450
obviously stork will win then lose the finals
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 17 2008 16:47 GMT
#451
I wouldn't mind seeing two team mates play reminds me of iris and savior back when. hmmmmm Best seems to get so much hype about his PvP though D:
DotA 2 - peteyyytran/IRONBRAH add me for inhouse games/pub games
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
October 17 2008 17:27 GMT
#452
gorilla power be with fantasy
devil's soul be with best
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 17 2008 17:39 GMT
#453
So what happens now in SKT house... Oov coaches Fantasy and Kingdom coaches Best? Who does Bisu root for? Who does Midas cook for? What about Bunky? I'm so confused...

And I keep forgetting that Best hasn't actually beaten Stork yet. =)
May the BeSt man win.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 17 2008 17:42 GMT
#454
Shit man, SKT is like god like atm

this guy is a fucking beast.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
October 17 2008 17:49 GMT
#455
Also keep in mind 2 of Best's 5 losses vP have been to stork.

He is currently 2-2 against stork therefor I can't wait for these finals.
Hi.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
October 17 2008 18:02 GMT
#456
The real final is next friday.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 17 2008 18:03 GMT
#457
if only they could do the same in proleague
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
October 17 2008 18:16 GMT
#458
stork isnt one to let anyone else take the silver
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
October 17 2008 18:20 GMT
#459
Maps put zergs away..sad
I will have my joy when Stork will crush the infamous SKT warriors in straight games....
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 18:31:53
October 17 2008 18:21 GMT
#460
K, I've seen 2 games and I gotta say, I'm disappointed in GGplay. His timing was poor in game 1 and his army composition was poor in game 2.

He has a lot of experience fighting mech builds, he knows the right counters and yet he still lost.
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