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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 10 2008 10:25 GMT
#241
On July 10 2008 19:24 BlackStar wrote:
How does MSL need to be rigged to have Jaedong vs Flash final? Or do you mean the brackets?



The brackets of course .
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
July 10 2008 10:25 GMT
#242
On July 10 2008 19:22 Kyuki wrote:
Cheap shot? rofl...

I feel abit bad for Much, you can see that he knows that he's going to loose.

I'm cheering for JD, but can't help it...

Much <3.

Word its a cheap shot, nothing more cruel than smacking an old man down to the ground.

Plus its a two hatch variant, damn hard to predict.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 10 2008 10:25 GMT
#243
Jaedong is obviously on some performance-enhancing drugs.

What other reason could explain such an ENORMOUS skill difference?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
July 10 2008 10:26 GMT
#244
I don't understand why Much made 1 cannon in his main so early. If he suspected a muta rush then 1 cannon isn't going to be enough, and if he didn't then it's obviously going to be useless.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
July 10 2008 10:26 GMT
#245
On July 10 2008 19:22 EvoChamber wrote:
Interesting mind games. Much was probably expecting a hydra break after seeing Jaedong crush Jangbi and Lucifer.


My thoughts exactly! It seems somewhat common to do that every once in a while now I think.

But didn't see the JD vs. Chalrenge game but I've read the coach got pretty mad at JD so maybe he used a strat that was supposed to go into this series?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 10 2008 10:27 GMT
#246
On July 10 2008 19:22 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2008 19:18 Showtime! wrote:
no it wasn't.


Yes, his strategy was very bad. Also, he didn't even know about 9 o clock.

He should have tried 2 stargate +1 corsair with DTs. But I guess he didn't think he could outmicro JDs scourge.



..?

Way to take what I said out of context. That is unless you are agreeing with me. Perhaps you should have included the full quote and the other guy at the same time. Much failed on many levels that game.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
k0ziol
Profile Joined June 2007
Poland75 Posts
July 10 2008 10:27 GMT
#247
i hope for some stright up macro game but i guess its impossible and one will try some cheese or allin
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7855 Posts
July 10 2008 10:28 GMT
#248
On July 10 2008 19:26 Wonders wrote:
I don't understand why Much made 1 cannon in his main so early. If he suspected a muta rush then 1 cannon isn't going to be enough, and if he didn't then it's obviously going to be useless.


Good point. Worth thinking about...
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
July 10 2008 10:28 GMT
#249
can someone tell me the result ;0
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 10:31:05
July 10 2008 10:29 GMT
#250
2-0 for jaedong so far.

showed a recap of much versus fbh with the heart build
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
July 10 2008 10:29 GMT
#251
It ain't fair i tell you , puting Jaedong on 1 side of the bracket and Flash on the other practically says to the other progamers go home and watch the finals ...Poor Much he should have been on Flash side at least he can show us some skills with his DT and shuttle and his great storms <3
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
July 10 2008 10:29 GMT
#252
I predict Much will cheese right now, 3rd set. My bet is double proxy gate in the center.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 10:33:06
July 10 2008 10:30 GMT
#253
On July 10 2008 19:26 Wonders wrote:
I don't understand why Much made 1 cannon in his main so early. If he suspected a muta rush then 1 cannon isn't going to be enough, and if he didn't then it's obviously going to be useless.

After realizing he wasn't going a 2 hydra/ling hatch break, he probably thought Jaedong went macro mode, much like the first game, make scourge asap to snipe a scouting sair. that one cannon is just there to scare the scourge away.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
July 10 2008 10:30 GMT
#254
On July 10 2008 19:22 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2008 19:18 Showtime! wrote:
no it wasn't.


Yes, his strategy was very bad. Also, he didn't even know about 9 o clock.

He should have tried 2 stargate +1 corsair with DTs. But I guess he didn't think he could outmicro JDs scourge.


Well, there's also the fact that Jaedong built ten or twelve scourge very early on to deter Much from switching to 2stargate corsair. Even if Much had gone for an air build, which I've never seen him do, the +1 would have been nullified by Jaedong's super-early +1 air carapace. Much did what he's familiar with. He attacked hard with a ground army and was a bleeding hatchery away from forcing a draw.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 10:31:46
July 10 2008 10:30 GMT
#255
On July 10 2008 19:29 raga4ka wrote:
It ain't fair i tell you , puting Jaedong on 1 side of the bracket and Flash on the other practically says to the other progamers go home and watch the finals ...Poor Much he should have been on Flash side at least he can show us some skills with his DT and shuttle and his great storms <3

pretty sure that the seeding process doesn't make them play in Ro64 or 32 or whatever. mostly every tournament is like that, top seeds get separated
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
July 10 2008 10:31 GMT
#256
ahahah that pylon heart was pimp
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 10:33:26
July 10 2008 10:32 GMT
#257
Much is going to need a lot of heart to make a giant comeback perhaps that video recap from pro league will help him.

Find out next!

Game 3 about to start

I have to agree with CD, I think Much should be trying some cheese build to get back in this.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
July 10 2008 10:32 GMT
#258
Could a mod please update the OP? It seems that the thread maker is MIA (probably sleeping).
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7855 Posts
July 10 2008 10:33 GMT
#259
MUCH HWAITING! Comeback baby! (I can dream..)
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
July 10 2008 10:35 GMT
#260
On July 10 2008 19:33 Vasoline73 wrote:
MUCH HWAITING! Comeback baby! (I can dream..)


There was that 3-2 PvZ comeback in the OS so anything is possibleL...
Then again Much isn't Best, and Jaedong isn't Luxury.
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