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<FONT COLOR="WHITE" SIZE="+2"><B> EVER 2008 OnGameNet Starleague
DAY 2
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<TABLE BORDER="3"> <TR> <TD HEIGHT="105" WIDTH="330" bgcolor="beige"> <B> <CENTER> <img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(T)" title="Terran" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Sea - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/108_Sea">Sea</a> < <a target="_blank" title="Troy - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/168_Troy">Troy</a> > <img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(P)" title="Protoss" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Rock - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/155_Rock">Rock</a><br><img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(P)" title="Protoss" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Stork - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/59_Stork">Stork</a> < <a target="_blank" title="Othello - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/178_Othello">Othello</a> > <img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(P)" title="Protoss" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="JangBi - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/63_JangBi">JangBi</a><br><img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(Z)" title="Zerg" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="YellOw[ArnC] - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/189_YellOw%5BArnC%5D">YellOw[ArnC]</a> < <a target="_blank" title="Andromeda - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/175_Andromeda">Andromeda</a> > <img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(Z)" title="Zerg" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Rumble - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/10_Rumble">Rumble</a><br><img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(P)" title="Protoss" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Bisu - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/125_Bisu">Bisu</a> < <a target="_blank" title="Hwarangdo - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/177_Hwarangdo">Hwarangdo</a> > <img style="width: 17px; height: 15px; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 2px;" alt="(T)" title="Terran" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif"><a target="_blank" title="Mind - TLPD Information" href="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/146_Mind">Mind</a> </TD> </TR> </TABLE>
<TABLE> <TR> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <B>125-69</B>
(64.43%) </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKBLUE"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/images/liquibet/players/Sea%5BShield%5D.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD> <img WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="70" src="http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/maps/168_Troy_thumbnail.jpg"> <BR><CENTER><FONT COLOR="WHITE">Troy<BR>TvP: 6-6</CENTER></TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKGREEN"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/155.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <B>79-89</B>
(47.02%) </CENTER> </TD> </TR> </TABLE>
<TABLE> <TR> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <b>MSL</b> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png">
<b>OSL</b> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png"><img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png">
<b>GSI</b> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png">
<B>156-101</B>
(60.70%) </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKGREEN"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/59.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD> <img WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="70" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/maps/178_Othello_thumbnail.jpg"> <BR><CENTER><FONT COLOR="WHITE">Othello<BR>PvP: (2)</CENTER></TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKGREEN"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/63.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <B>32-32</B>
(50.00%) </CENTER> </TD> </TR> </TABLE>
<TABLE> <TR> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <b>76-68</b>
(52.78%) </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKRED"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/images/liquibet/players/YellOw%5BArnC%5D.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD> <img WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="70" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/maps/175_Andromeda_thumbnail.jpg"> <BR><CENTER><FONT COLOR="WHITE">Andromeda<BR>ZvZ: (7)</CENTER></TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKRED"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/images/liquibet/players/Rumble.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <b>26-24</b>
(52.00%) </CENTER> </TD> </TR> </TABLE>
<TABLE> <TR> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <b>MSL</b> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png"><img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png"><img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/silver.png">
<b>98-68</b>
(59.04%) </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKGREEN"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/images/liquibet/players/Bisu.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD> <img WIDTH="70" HEIGHT="70" src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/maps/177_Hwarangdo_thumbnail.jpg"> <BR><CENTER><FONT COLOR="WHITE">Hwarangdo<BR>PvT: 3-2</CENTER></TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="100" BGCOLOR="DARKBLUE"> <CENTER> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/images/liquibet/players/Inter.Mind.jpg"> </CENTER> </TD> <TD HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="130"> <CENTER> <FONT COLOR="WHITE"> <b>MSL</b> <img src="http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/common/gold.png">
<b>40-28</b>
(58.82%) </CENTER> </TD> </TR> </TABLE>
<TABLE BORDER="1"> <TR> <TD> <CENTER> <FONT SIZE="+1"> <i> + Show Spoiler [Results] + </i></FONT> <FONT COLOR="BLACK"> Sea < <b>Rock</b>
Rock intends to Carrier his way up to OSL finals
Stork < <b>JangBi</b>
Stork has to clean Jangbi's bathroom for 3 weeks
Yarnc < <b>Rumble</b>
The twins are in a tight spot, DAY3 the clash!
<b>Bisu[Shield]</b> > Inter.Mind
Indeed the match of the day!
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Highest win %: Sea
Lowest: Rock
Most Medals: Stork
Most (gold) Medals: Bisu
Poll: Match of the day?
(Vote): <b>Stork</b> vs <b>Jangbi</b> (who wears the pants?)
(Vote): <b>Bisu</b> vs <b>Mind</b> (champions and revenge)
(Vote): <b>ArnC</b> vs <b>Rumble</b> (on a crazy ZvZ map)
(Vote): <b>Sea</b> vs <b>Rock</b> (and so they meet again)
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Damned Stork and his silver fetish.
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Mind is going down today. No doubt.
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United States3705 Posts
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haha stork so many silvers
go bisu!
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Bisuuuuu....plz...win!!!!
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Bisu DT drop for the loss.
Edit: The OP reminds me- some of the TLPD pictures really need to be updated. That Stork picture bothers me. IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM. Same goes for Jangbi.
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I hope bisu rapes mind, then Much rapes backho and smashes bisu... much's pvp needs more attention. Other then that, I wanna see Sea vs Rock, should be a great game.
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I HOPE MIND RAPES BISU, but then i voted bisu cuz minds tvp never impressed me much, he only waits for the toss to fall apart in late game.
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we all know bisu is gonna do the same DT into carrier into epic fail again~~
mind will show us who is the master of TvP, him, not flash~~
but besides that, stork will take his game, rock will surprise us with a win over sea and luxury will fail again just like the MSL
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lol @ stork's silver medals
sea > rock
stork < Jangbi
luxury > rumble
bisu < mind
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Bisu is going to lose unless he cheeses.
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Sea > Rock - will try his standard reaver > carrier which Sea will comfortably handle.
Stork > Jangbi - close game, but I'll give it to the man with the experience.
Yarnc > Rumble - flipped a coin and this is what I got.
Mind > Bisu - Mind has really sick TvP and if it wasn't for Flash, I think he'd get way more love for his mech play.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hoping for:
Rock > Sea. I hope Sea chokes again.
Stork > Jangbi. Jangbi sucks PvP.
Who cares about game 3. What I wanna know is how Rumble is over 50%.
Bisu > Mind. Hoping Bisu rapes Mind.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 11:16 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
I hope bisu rapes mind, then Much rapes backho and smashes bisu... much's pvp needs more attention. Other then that, I wanna see Sea vs Rock, should be a great game.
Much already lost to backho, sorry champ 
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Rock
Stork
Yarnc
Beesuit ( -_- )
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I dont know how in the hell anyone thinks bisu is gonna come out on top over mind. I mean Bisu's PvT just isnt that good and Minds TvP is 2nd only to Flash... AND Bisu is in a slump at the moment anyways.
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everyone started saying how godly mind's tvp is after that anytime game. he didn't win it by playing good, he just waited for anytime to fall apart and do retarded shit lik recall next to a 50 million tanks. i like mind, but his tvp is far from what u guyz are hyping him to be.
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Kim Taek Yong shall show he is among the favorites in this OSL today.
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On May 16 2008 13:46 Nick_54 wrote:
Kim Taek Yong shall show he is among the favorites in this OSL today.
Actually he's going to get anus'd so hard they'll be pulling the residue from his tonsils. I just voted for him because my liquibet is fucked anyways.
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Mind's TvP was good long before that game versus Anytime. Now.
Expectations.
Sea > Caveman
Stork > Jangbi
Y[arnc]> Rumble
Mind > Bisu.
What I want to see.
Sea > Caveman
Jangbi > Birdy-Birdy
Y[arnc]> Rumble
Bisu > Mind.
If Bisu and Jangbi want a ghost of a chance they're going to need to back themselves though. Both of them have the ability, but if they're going to need to show their best. Ie, Hay Bisu stop the DT -> Double expansion plz. Throw us some good PvT and learn from your mistakes against Mind/Flash in your bo5 losses to both kthnx. As for Jangbi, he's supposedly top of the Khan in-house games and it's not as if that means playing FBH 100 percent of the time, so he must have a decent PvP. Both will need to play damn good to be in the running.
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Rock > Sea (DIE, SEA)
Stork >< Jangbi (they both kill themselves)
MS > Rumble (Sorry, SKT, but MS is better than Rumble)
Mind > Bisu (enough of this Protoss infestation in individual leagues already)
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am i totaly alone who think that Rumble will win?
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Sea > Rock
Stork < JangBi
YarnC > Rumble
Mind > Bisu
kk-_- I need a 4/4 today.. yesterday 1/4 fucked me.. sad T.T NaDa..
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Mind can loose this game. His fans ( ME ) will be depressed and dissapointed. And than he will destroy the other tosses and advance. We could see such drama in this group.
My predictions:
Sea > Rock
Stork > Jangbi
Rumble > YarnC
Mind > Bisu
3/4 yesterday so now is the time for something worst than that.
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bisu..gogo show us you have mastered your arbiter build
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
Strok should be called not the Bird Toss but the Silver Bird 
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol wonder why they put bisu vs mind last XDD
sooo excited for that match!!
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On May 16 2008 16:59 alffla wrote:
lol wonder why they put bisu vs mind last XDD
sooo excited for that match!!
So they would stay for the whole broadcast.
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CA10828 Posts
....or because it's group D. but yeah either way it's smart to have them play last. definitely the highlight of the night.
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smileys 
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Question for Bisu--
The very threat of a DT drop or Reaver drop makes the Terran waste resources on defending against them. Fucking hide a pylon somewhere and then play normally just freak Mind out man. Plus, pure zeal goon early game has eco adv vs Terran until 3rd T base is up... so why not just go zeal-goon--> zealgoontemp+ arb?
Come on Bisu, be manly for once...
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Thanks once again Corinthos! :-)
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Hahahahaha.... didn't know ":" + "7" gave you a piping smiley
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there should be an unsmilie button like there is an un-tlpd button.
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Eh, it may not matter too much, but Liquibet has yellow instead of Lux....
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I LOVE this, how they show the proleague from the progamers point of view!
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Stream is working GGPlay attacks his 6 o'clock expo !!! 
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 16 2008 17:28 Corinthos wrote:Stream: mms://76.76.9.249:7880mms://66.197.236.55:7880vlc: mmsh://76.76.9.249:7880 mmsh://66.197.236.55:7880 Edit: the code doesn't like me still. html powers?! I'll spell it out again: m m s : / / 7 6 . 7 6 . 9 . 2 4 9 : 7 8 8 0 m m s : / / 6 6 . 1 9 7 . 2 3 6 . 5 5 : 7 8 8 0 vlc: m m s h : / / 7 6 . 7 6 . 9 . 2 4 9 : 7 8 8 0 m m s h : / / 6 6 . 1 9 7 . 2 3 6 . 5 5 : 7 8 8 0
SWEEET THANKS !! <3<3 muchas gracias
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VioleTAK, I wanted to ask you, if you ll be able to write the names of the players in your opening posts as well, coz I personally dont recognize all of them from first sight and I need to go to calendars to see who is actually playing, then sometimes I forget them and need to go there again and etc...
10x)
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Mind's one gold looks so much more powerful than stork's 4silver medals.
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On May 16 2008 18:32 M2 wrote:VioleTAK, I wanted to ask you, if you ll be able to write the names of the players in your opening posts as well, coz I personally dont recognize all of them from first sight and I need to go to calendars to see who is actually playing, then sometimes I forget them and need to go there again and etc... 10x )
Yeah, last time (day1) I didn't write the names.
But today I did, top of the op :-) missed it?
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On May 16 2008 18:35 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 18:32 M2 wrote:VioleTAK, I wanted to ask you, if you ll be able to write the names of the players in your opening posts as well, coz I personally dont recognize all of them from first sight and I need to go to calendars to see who is actually playing, then sometimes I forget them and need to go there again and etc... 10x ) Yeah, last time (day1) I didn't write the names. But today I did, top of the op :-) missed it?
oh yes, sorry, I didnt look today carefully coz I recognize these faces:-)))
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On May 16 2008 18:33 Pepsicolaone wrote:
Mind's one gold looks so much more powerful than stork's 4silver medals.
I could have added Stork's Daum OSL Bronze medal :-) But 3rd place is no place, they don't even do the 3rd-4rth place matches anymore so it can't really count. Besides it would ruin his silveish profile look >:-)
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Gotta admit.. Rock looking badass today -_- Sea still going to destroy him.
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CA10828 Posts
GO ROCK! WEMADE FIGHTING!
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Bisu will probably set my mood for the rest of the day.. win = super, lose = sad panda :'(
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On May 16 2008 17:28 Corinthos wrote:Stream: mms://76.76.9.249:7880mms://66.197.236.55:7880vlc: mmsh://76.76.9.249:7880 mmsh://66.197.236.55:7880 Edit: the code doesn't like me still. html powers?! I'll spell it out again: m m s : / / 7 6 . 7 6 . 9 . 2 4 9 : 7 8 8 0 m m s : / / 6 6 . 1 9 7 . 2 3 6 . 5 5 : 7 8 8 0 vlc: m m s h : / / 7 6 . 7 6 . 9 . 2 4 9 : 7 8 8 0 m m s h : / / 6 6 . 1 9 7 . 2 3 6 . 5 5 : 7 8 8 0
<3
someone give this man a star : )
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On May 16 2008 17:28 Corinthos wrote:
vlc:
m m s h : / / 7 6 . 7 6 . 9 . 2 4 9 : 7 8 8 0
m m s h : / / 6 6 . 1 9 7 . 2 3 6 . 5 5 : 7 8 8 0
Since there is no cgi... etc. in these urls they actually work for me !
Thx
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Yeah Corinthos's stream is the only thing that works for me from this computer. I'm in your debt! :-)
Sea's hand towel is already full of sweat, Rock is doomed.
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That picture of Julyzerg in the intro is too funny. Gogo Michelin-zerg.
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CA10828 Posts
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assim down, gg
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What is wrong with Daum
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CA10828 Posts
brilliant decision by rock to not research goon range in exchange for getting out a couple more goons to kill the assimilator.
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On May 16 2008 18:53 BlackStar wrote:What is wrong with Daum
I don't know its really annoying though.
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CA10828 Posts
sea tries 4vult dropship, somewhat effective but not enough imo
sea going for gols, looks like he's gonna play this island style.
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Nice Rock... nice.
Sea will come back from this. Make that mistake Rock, that tiny little mistake and the tide will change.
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CA10828 Posts
rock working on carriers as usual
sea taking 6 oclock, sea with 3 dropships out
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CA10828 Posts
i wonder if a pure gol drop will work vs goons and cannons though... rock has several obs on patrol around the map
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Dejavu Sea-Daezang anyone?
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Dang, daumplayer isn't working for me and the streams in WMP sound like the announcers are talking through AM radio. Oh well I have a final tomorrow anyway. Guess I'll study instead.
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Sea drops 4 dropships of goliaths in Rock's main, Rock gets his dragoons and first few carriers in place to meet them. Heavy casualties on both sides, Sea's drop is wiped out, but he kills a few probes and most of Rock's dragoons. Rock has 3 carriers out now.
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I just wanna know, is it me or is it PotPlayer thats not working?
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CA10828 Posts
3stargate and 5gateways for therock, 4 factory for sea. sea has his min-only too, in case you guys were curious.
rock took 1oclock main a while ago.
5 dropships full of gols drop in rocks main but rock was able to prepare adequately due to good obs position
sea loses all goons without doing much damage, although he did kill a decent amt of goons.
sea drops in rock's 1 main and kills an assimilator so goons can't go in. but rock already has 4 carriers out and gols don't do anything.
rock's gols in mid of map take down 2 more dropships and the rest are red health.
rock warping in nexus at 1oclock nat.
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i use corinthos's stream and it works fine ! thanks
Just asking though is the quality of the stream supposed to be very low?
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On May 16 2008 19:01 ICanFlyLow wrote:
I just wanna know, is it me or is it PotPlayer thats not working?
try corinthos stream, abit behind but its not lagging : )
daum lagged for me.
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Rock launches a large dragoon/carrier push. His ground army outnumbers Sea's, which is completely made of Goliaths. Sea's army is crushed, Rock has nearly double his supply count and is taking out his expansions with his carriers. Sea GGs.
Daum working ok for me so far.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
ugh i was worried something like this would happen
this map is hellacious tvp and really suited to rock's style
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wow sea got raped. man... my LB =(
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sea's got a good win percentage.
and as i wrote that, he bit the dust.
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CA10828 Posts
sea takes 5 carriers and kills 6 oclock, loses 1 carrier but kills the CC
rock pushing in at sea's main. he has a crapload of goons and a lot of carriers. he kills like 20 gols and the nat cc. carriers killing the minonly CC and dropships.
GG ROCK WINS.
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On May 16 2008 19:03 VioleTAK wrote:
Damnit damnit!!!!
i feel you man.... ah... sea.... so sad..... im so depressed and pissed right now....
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yup, liquibet point lost
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow shit sea put up a good fight though ~_~
rock o_O
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OH YEAH, ROCK FOR THE WIN!!! THE CAVE MAN
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damnit
p.s. fuck fuck fuck
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CA10828 Posts
i got this liquibet point
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Valhalla18444 Posts
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it
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ah rock, our little one trick pony, its easy to bet for him on troy when you know he will do something like this.
Boring as hell but quite effective.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it
i thought losing assim it could be played like 815 ~_~ o well i suspected that rock might take the win but still voted sea >_>
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51449 Posts
yay white-ra with his half a second of fame on korean tv
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That map is rather predictable, damn. : /
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I guess I'm an idiot for voting Sea while rooting for Rock then, eh? Crap. -.-
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On May 16 2008 19:03 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:this map is hellacious tvp and really suited to rock's style
He doesn't have any :/
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:06 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it i thought losing assim it could be played like 815 ~_~ o well i suspected that rock might take the win but still voted sea >_>
no, not at all. you're forced to play island style while the protoss has complete freedom to walk around the map with goon/zealot. there's also a fucking ton of gas so carrier is readily available at virtually any time, and theyre very very powerful on this map
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:08 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:03 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:this map is hellacious tvp and really suited to rock's style He doesn't have any :/
yes he does, he has the "make 30000 goons and also carrier rush" style
thats essentially the ideal build on troy
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On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it
Sure, but I didn't think Sea would lose his assim like he did any other games past....ah well
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Sea did beat Daezang in that exact same situation. But it was more due to Daezang not acting like he should have after taking out Sea's assim...
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:09 Danger_Duck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it Sure, but I didn't think Sea would lose his assim like he did any other games past....ah well
well rock's opening was kind of impossible to stop, that assimilator was gonna die no matter what Sea did
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speedshuttles also >> dropships if you manage to kill HIS assims too...
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
oh yeah, forgot that it would apply one way. haha i guess so..
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:09 VioleTAK wrote:
Sea did beat Daezang in that exact same situation. But it was more due to Daezang not acting like he should have after taking out Sea's assim...
yeah, that was Daezang playing badly more than it was Sea playing well
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CA10828 Posts
give credit to rock where it's due, if he had gone standard and researched goon range, sea would have defended with the number of rines he made.
great job rock!
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nvm nice play by rock!
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CA10828 Posts
oh and he also had perfect timing with his obs popping out right when the 4vult drop landed in his main.
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Daum now really works again.
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so like, your feeds are off too, right?
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On May 16 2008 19:11 LosingID8 wrote:
give credit to rock where it's due, if he had gone standard and researched goon range, sea would have defended with the number of rines he made.
great job rock!
I bet Sea did think about that option. Don't know... the spidermines didn't do shit this game. Damnit :-( Aaacckkk Bisu PLEASE kick Mind's ass!
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holy shit storks pvp in starleague is 77.8%
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CA10828 Posts
stork sick 14-4 PvP on OGN
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On May 16 2008 19:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:09 Danger_Duck wrote:On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it Sure, but I didn't think Sea would lose his assim like he did any other games past....ah well well rock's opening was kind of impossible to stop, that assimilator was gonna die no matter what Sea did
Not true at all....If sea went seige mode before mines, the opening would have been a complete failure. Rock assumed correctly that mines would be first
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CA10828 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:13 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:11 LosingID8 wrote:
give credit to rock where it's due, if he had gone standard and researched goon range, sea would have defended with the number of rines he made.
great job rock! I bet Sea did think about that option. Don't know... the spidermines didn't do shit this game. Damnit :-( Aaacckkk Bisu PLEASE kick Mind's ass!
no way mind's timing will totally wipe the floor with bisu
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This isn't starting the way I hoped for. NaDa and Sea down 0-1. Bisu must cheer me up with a sweet victory over Mind.
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Cmon stork! I know the last time I was rooting for you was... well, I don't remember ever doing so. But you've got this!
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On May 16 2008 19:14 VioleTAK wrote:
This isn't starting the way I hoped for. NaDa and Sea down 0-1. Bisu must cheer me up with a sweet victory over Mind.
Read my mind. (hurhur pun <_< )
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:14 Danger_Duck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On May 16 2008 19:09 Danger_Duck wrote:On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it Sure, but I didn't think Sea would lose his assim like he did any other games past....ah well well rock's opening was kind of impossible to stop, that assimilator was gonna die no matter what Sea did Not true at all....If sea went seige mode before mines, the opening would have been a complete failure. Rock assumed correctly that mines would be first
no, with that amount of goons the assimilator is dead easily
remember that if sea went siege first, rock wouldnt have to waste all that time microing. he'd just have to spread his goons out and suicide at it
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I don't like Stork or Jangbi. May the Broodwar gods give them both 0-3 somehow.
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On May 16 2008 19:15 HaXxorIzed wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:14 VioleTAK wrote:
This isn't starting the way I hoped for. NaDa and Sea down 0-1. Bisu must cheer me up with a sweet victory over Mind. Read my mind.
Same here only that I dont care much about Nada.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
o no did corinthos stream die?
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who is who? both names in korean and both protoss AND on the same team? im so confuzzled
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On May 16 2008 19:17 alffla wrote:
o no did corinthos stream die?
i cant seem to get any of the two streams working? :'(
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On May 16 2008 19:16 VioleTAK wrote:
I don't like Stork or Jangbi. May the Broodwar gods give them both 0-3 somehow.
May give them a 2 hour long game after which they fall asleep and both retire afterwards.
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Russian Federation37 Posts
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Stork has the 구 character. Just remember that. And it will help out a lot. It's easy to remember.
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On May 16 2008 19:20 BlackStar wrote:
Stork has the 구 character. Just remember that. And it will help out a lot. It's easy to remember.
Exactly. Goo!
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
On May 16 2008 16:59 alffla wrote:
lol wonder why they put bisu vs mind last XDD
sooo excited for that match!!
Because they are from the last group - group D.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:19 Storchen wrote:i cant seem to get any of the two streams working? :'(
well one of the streams workign for me but its really laggy now
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When the stream freezes the audio starts to loop. This it never did before. Is that me or daum?
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:18 Guss wrote:
who is who? both names in korean and both protoss AND on the same team? im so confuzzled
Jangbi is just a protoss and Strork is the Protoss. You can recognize them by their playstyle
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On May 16 2008 19:23 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:19 Storchen wrote:On May 16 2008 19:17 alffla wrote:
o no did corinthos stream die? i cant seem to get any of the two streams working? :'( well one of the streams workign for me but its really laggy now
the first one doesnt open and the second plays for 3 seconds and then stops whats happening?
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Jangbi White
Stork Brown
They are doing the same things, this game will last hours and hours........
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Jangbi's manner pylon and adding a second gate earlier allowed him to be the first to expo.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol ths is mirror to the max or waht
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wow! Stork outmicroed by Jangbi!
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Stork not using his reavers all that well.
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jangbi comes out on top in the first skirmish
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New lows of reaver control for the bird here.
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On May 16 2008 19:25 Bifur wrote:Jangbi is just a protoss and Strork is the Protoss. You can recognize them by their playstyle
When you said that Jangbi was so much ahead he could mess up with his reavers and still win that battle.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
stork is so fucking bad
hurrr hurrrrr attackmove my goons and then fuck around with my reavers this is how you win pvp battles hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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i doubt jangbi will lose this.
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On May 16 2008 19:28 ilbh wrote:
GO JANGBI!
yup go jangbi kill yourself
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Ahahah what the heck? Rock won? Sweet.
Stork chokes, duh.
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On May 16 2008 19:32 ilbh wrote:
Jangbi is a little ahead
40 supply above with double the amount of probes is "a little" ahead?
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Come on JangBi!!
YOU CAN DO IT!!
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On May 16 2008 19:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:40 supply above with double the amount of probes is "a little" ahead?
against stork this is a little advantage :>
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Jangbi can't lose that now... storms owned hard
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THAT TEMPLAR GOT LIKE AN HOUR OF AIR TIME
edit: WHAT? its still there lol
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commentators said that jangbi practiced with Best. i guesss it's paying off
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow im surprised stork is still in the game after the advantage jangbi had after the first attack O_O
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
0/2.
Liquibet has been a bitch lately.
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177 vs 191?
after battle 92 vs 86
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Large battle, Stork comes out slightly ahead. He loses a shuttle and reaver harassing and falls behind in supply again though. Both at about 120.
Stork's DT takes a nexus out, but Jangbi's army pushes through Stork and gets his middle-left expo. Stork heavily behind in supply again.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol this is crazy intense pvp!!
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even though Stork does good in the battles the fact that jangbi has 2 more expoes will catch up to Stork.
which it does and stork ggs
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Battle at 6, Jangbi has a lot of templar and storms Stork's army apart. Stork launches a small counterattack with Zealots but it wont do anything. He ggs.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
utter fucking destruction
go to hell stork
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On May 16 2008 19:37 TheTyranid wrote:
0/2.
Liquibet has been a bitch lately.
same here and expect nothing but getting worse with the two remaining matches
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Hehehe Stork.
Enjoy that nice big 0-1 for chosing your teammate.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
cool voted for jangbi ! :D good job
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lol Stork chose his teammate to give him a free win to have a bigger chance of 2 players progressing?
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Best PvP in the world loosing with his team mate who couldn't get out from 4 toss MSL group.
How could u predict something with things like that. Pure luck...
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Yeehaw, First time in weeks that Daum runs flawlessly for me. Also yaoyuan has a bad quality for me today.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On May 16 2008 19:45 Solmyr wrote:
Best PvP in the world loosing with his team mate who couldn't get out from 4 toss MSL group.
How could u predict something with things like that. Pure luck...
less luck and more stork playing terribly
that was some of the worst control i've ever seen in a professional game during that first battle
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I swear, any other protoss in that situation easily ggs stork 10 minutes earlier. Still not impressed with Jangbi other than in PvT. Technically stork had the advantage in the first battle, but he failed miserably at doing anything other than hiding his reavers behind his army, and lost the game right there.
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lol, who is better in PvP than Jangbi? Not that many people. He must be 6th or 7th best in PvP.
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On May 16 2008 19:45 BlackStar wrote:
lol Stork chose his teammate to give him a free win to have a bigger chance of 2 players progressing?
Oh please... Stork only thinks about Stork. He chose Jangbi because he thought it would be an easy win, well he thought wrong.
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good PvP, stork didnt play like uber shit, it reminded me of stork vs bisu game 5 finals
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On May 16 2008 19:45 Solmyr wrote:
Best PvP in the world loosing with his team mate who couldn't get out from 4 toss MSL group.
How could u predict something with things like that. Pure luck...
basically, jangbi > stork > bisu > nal_ra > anytime = bisu < stork > much > backho >/= nal_ra <bisu < best >/= free = anytime.
easy
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Doesn't Jangbi have the best practice recond in Khan?
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On May 16 2008 19:47 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:45 BlackStar wrote:
lol Stork chose his teammate to give him a free win to have a bigger chance of 2 players progressing? Oh please... Stork only thinks about Stork. He chose Jangbi because he thought it would be an easy win, well he thought wrong.
What makes you think that Stork is so arrogant??
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On May 16 2008 19:48 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:45 Solmyr wrote:
Best PvP in the world loosing with his team mate who couldn't get out from 4 toss MSL group.
How could u predict something with things like that. Pure luck...
basically, [jangbi > stork > bisu > nal_ra > anytime = bisu < stork > much > backho >/= nal_ra <bisu < best >/= free = anytime.] <font size="+1"> < Garimto</font> easy
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On May 16 2008 19:48 trollbone wrote:
good PvP, stork didnt play like uber shit, it reminded me of stork vs bisu game 5 finals
Didnt you hear FS? He said Stork played bad, thus he did. And he has more posts than you. >.< (and he is clearly unbiased)
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On May 16 2008 19:48 BlackStar wrote:
Doesn't Jangbi have the best practice recond in Khan?
hmmm the coach always says that those 2 always fight for 1st spot. she said that those 2 always meet at the team ranking final.The difference between them was that stork was able to play like himself in leagues but jangbi couldnt. but jangbi is getting better and better in leagues. good for samsung i guess
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He also always tells Stork to go to hell. And Jangbi is the most hated Protoss ever, according to him.
FS is an idiot just here for our amusement.
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On May 16 2008 19:52 BlackStar wrote:
He also always tells Stork to go to hell. And Jangbi is the most hated Protoss ever, according to him.
FS is an idiot just here for our amusement.
you're ignorant
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On May 16 2008 19:49 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:47 VioleTAK wrote:On May 16 2008 19:45 BlackStar wrote:
lol Stork chose his teammate to give him a free win to have a bigger chance of 2 players progressing? Oh please... Stork only thinks about Stork. He chose Jangbi because he thought it would be an easy win, well he thought wrong. What makes you think that Stork is so arrogant??
Th way he always whines after losing, in interviews always "I would have won if I did this or that"... well how the fuck do you know? He thinks he just does. Not once, not twice, every time he has excuses. And when he wins he has this smug arrogant look.
Wasn't always like that, but thats how I see it now. Just the feeling I got from him over the past few seasons, I absolutely adored him when he started owning again, just like Boxer's prophecy :-) But now I can't stand him anymore.
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The same flame as in the power rank section. I guess Stork is somekind of drama queen
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"I would have won if I did this or that"
Every good and confident player does that. Read the Mondragon interview.
It's just an issue of how you pick your words.
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lol yeah.. one of stork's nickname in korea is 핑계토스(i guess something like excuse toss??)
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On May 16 2008 19:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:52 BlackStar wrote:
He also always tells Stork to go to hell. And Jangbi is the most hated Protoss ever, according to him.
FS is an idiot just here for our amusement. you're ignorant
When you make a power rank with insults towards players and then make similar comments in the live report threads, how do you think people will respond to your opinions?
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Wtf jangbi has like 30% pvp. I don't get how he keeps winning pvps.
Fuck liquibet, I'm like rank 500 this season.
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On May 16 2008 19:59 blagoonga123 wrote:
Wtf jangbi has like 30% pvp. I don't get how he keeps winning pvps.
Fuck liquibet, I'm like rank 500 this season.
im like 900. prolly cause i missed like 50 votes hehe
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How soon we forget the true god of PvP: Pusan
Fools!
Ra was beyond amazing pre-2007 too.
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3 Lions
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anytime should be in this..........
fuck, jangbi's pvp is horrible accoriding to TLPD
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Ok enough of this PvP . The Zergs are coming. Go Rumble!
Damn the stream isn't working very well today.
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On May 16 2008 20:02 QibingZero wrote:How soon we forget the true god of PvP: Pusan Fools! Ra was beyond amazing pre-2007 too.
both are history now
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Crap I missed the colors. Who's who in this match?
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Pusan hasn't made many appearances for MBC in the PL, it's a shame. :/
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Yellow brown
Rumble yellow
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On May 16 2008 20:04 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 20:02 QibingZero wrote:How soon we forget the true god of PvP: Pusan Fools! Ra was beyond amazing pre-2007 too. both are history now
Pusan hasn't looked that bad lately, but Ra has been out of shape or something since the first half of PL '07.
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On May 16 2008 20:02 QibingZero wrote:How soon we forget the true god of PvP: Pusan Fools! Ra was beyond amazing pre-2007 too.
Among old schoolers, it was KINGDOM who was known for the best pvp.
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Yellow 12 pool and gas versus Rumble 12 hatch at nat. This ought to end early.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
WTF IS THAT GUY WEARING LOL
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On May 16 2008 19:56 BlackStar wrote:
Every good and confident player does that. Read the Mondragon interview.
It's just an issue of how you pick your words.
Well Stork does it in the arrogant manner, while many other plays do it respectfuly.
Stork, how can you know that you "would have won" if you went shuttle speed for example? Maybe burrowed hydras would snipe your shuttle? maybe a fracking queen would ensnare your shuttle while over undropable territory and scourged to death?... What I mean is, Stork either doesn't think before he speaks... or he's just thinks this way... And it doesn't matter to me really, because either way it sucks to follow him. Much better when he's only in one SL, one leg out already.
On May 16 2008 19:56 Pepsicolaone wrote:
lol yeah.. one of stork's nickname in korea is 핑계토스(i guess something like excuse toss??)
For a damn good reason.
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
They've both taken their expoes, have lair and making spire.
Yarnc has 100 more gas, all else is about equal
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Rumble scouted diagonally in ZvZ?
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Big lings fight outside Rumble's exp, he comes out ahead and attacks, he kills 2 drones
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On May 16 2008 20:05 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Pusan hasn't made many appearances for MBC in the PL, it's a shame. :/
he played recently and won btw
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
he killed some more of yarnc's drones and i think took his gas exp
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
yarnc is pretty much dead
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small muta skirmish, rumble comes out ahead
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On May 16 2008 20:10 Catyoul wrote:
yarnc is pretty much dead
hurray for 0/3
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and.. wow, just like that Yarnc GGs
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hahaha, this will make lux vs yarnc sooo much better next wednesday! both being down 0-1 they cant afford to rig the match :D
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Yeah, I think a ton of us are 0/3.
Grats to whomever 4/4s this one, haha.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
damnit yellowarnc -_-__-;
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That counter killed 4 drones :/
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Not looking good for the twins.. the game between them will pretty much determine which one of them will stand little chance of advancing. July's choise of Yarnc to get back on Luxury... stab to the heart :-)
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Goddamnit yellow[arnc]. Goddamnit. : (
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Damn yarnc. Delayed his spire for more lings.
ALRIGHT, MAIN EVENT TIME!
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I wish Corinthos stream worked better today. Such game and only live reports
1/3 Mind for 2/4...
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on the show "스타뒷담화"(dont have a clue how to translate this). Um jae kyung predicted rumble and July advancing. he said that rumble's zvz is very impressive because it is very different from all other players("zvz these days is more micro battle than game management but rumble does game management and defensive play which is very affective for him)
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OK, I'm 0/3 now:-D
If Bisu wins, and I hope he will do, I'll be 0/4 for today!
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On May 16 2008 20:12 Hittegods wrote:
Bisu for 0/4
losing that last point would be just sweet though
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Easy, July wins both mirrors and twins win at least one game more. That means nasty three way tie and both can maybe advance.
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All results today mean nothing right now!
ITS TIME!
GO
BISU!!!!!!!!!
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same
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On May 16 2008 20:15 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Easy, July wins both mirrors and twins win at least one game more. That means nasty three way tie and both can maybe advance.
if July wins both of next matchs, only one advances from the 3way tiebreaker.
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2/3 so far, bisu for 3/4~~~!!
Voted Sea instead of Rock
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Reaver... Overlord... what the hell?
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I LOVE how they say zergling.
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Damn Oov... turning his led into gold.
Best, Canata and Rumble... doing well -_-
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On May 16 2008 20:17 Pepsicolaone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 20:15 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Easy, July wins both mirrors and twins win at least one game more. That means nasty three way tie and both can maybe advance. if July wins both of next matchs, only one advances from the 3way tiebreaker.
Hah sometimes best not to press post too early without thinking...
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lol they are testing speed of reaver vs overlord!! hahahahahahaha
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Wtf was that replay.
Reavers at 2 minutes and 86000 minerals.
Oh above post I see. LOL
Why were they doing that?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
LOL there was a fan sign about the speed of reaver vs overlord earlier on
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BISU BISU BISU BISU BISU!!
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On May 16 2008 20:19 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 20:17 Pepsicolaone wrote:On May 16 2008 20:15 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Easy, July wins both mirrors and twins win at least one game more. That means nasty three way tie and both can maybe advance. if July wins both of next matchs, only one advances from the 3way tiebreaker. Hah sometimes best not to press post too early without thinking...
nono i knew what you meant. i was just kinda sad that now there is greater chance of both of them not advancing.=(
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0/3 so far...bisu win it pls, 0/4 is too painful
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On May 16 2008 20:19 Pepsicolaone wrote:
lol they are testing speed of reaver vs overlord!!
reaver flies => case closed :>
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
ok epic game i hope coming up fullscreen bai!! :D
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YES! the game ive been waiting for ALL day is finally here!!! Oh gosh i love both players though =(.
I'll be sad/happy either way. just hoping for an epic match.!
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btw sick stats mind O_O 70% tvp wins (last 10 games)
3-1 vs bisu
100% in ogn so far (?)
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On May 16 2008 20:19 Pepsicolaone wrote:
lol they are testing speed of reaver vs overlord!! hahahahahahaha
So which one is faster? Because if ever I try to run my reaver away from that slow overlord...
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Wow, i am 3/3 at the moment.
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On May 16 2008 20:25 alffla wrote:
btw sick stats mind O_O 70% tvp wins (last 10 games)
3-1 vs bisu
100% in ogn so far (?)
Flash is 100% last 10 TvP games.
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oh, man! The second stream is working for me!
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
July and Rumble, go-go-go!!! Twins, stay where you are.
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Mind can have 100% TvP, won't change the fact that he's going to get destroyed by a massive army of scouts... any minute now.
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On May 16 2008 20:27 Bifur wrote:
July and Rumble, go-go-go!!! Twins, stay where you are.
=(
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On May 16 2008 20:26 Hyperionnn wrote:Wow, i am 3/3 at the moment.
you must have been drinking last night right?
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1/4 so far...
I got Rock right
OOGA BOOGA
Edit: 1/3 i mean
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hmm the map favors bisu but mind's tvp is amazing.
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On May 16 2008 20:26 Pepsicolaone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 20:25 alffla wrote:
btw sick stats mind O_O 70% tvp wins (last 10 games)
3-1 vs bisu
100% in ogn so far (?) Flash is 100% last 10 TvP games.
well u still can't discredit mind here ~
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On May 16 2008 20:30 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 20:26 Pepsicolaone wrote:On May 16 2008 20:25 alffla wrote:
btw sick stats mind O_O 70% tvp wins (last 10 games)
3-1 vs bisu
100% in ogn so far (?) Flash is 100% last 10 TvP games. well u still can't discredit mind here ~
im not~~~ i just said mind's tvp is amazing =)
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Zzzzz... wow mind is taking his time preparing
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On May 16 2008 20:28 amorpheus wrote:you must have been drinking last night right?
Soooo true!!! hahah
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First step to Bisu's first OSL gold has begun.
Then again, I am 0/3 tonight.
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WHY THE HELL ISNT BISU SCOUTING
standard 8 pylon scout please
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Odd decision to go for no scout probe by Bisu.
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Damn you stream start working!!!
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Well, Mind's scouting SCV got picked off by a goon on the ramp. That's about as much as the stream will let me see.
Wow, nice ramp break by bisu.
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On May 16 2008 20:37 LosingID8 wrote:
김택용 광속 탈락 출발!
켁! 그리지마요~~~ 김택용 사랑해주삼~ ㅜㅜ
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Bisu pushes in, takes out Mind's first tank. Mind pushes him out by keeping the second tank up with mass repairing, Bisu loses a dragoon.
Bisu getting Robo Facility and Templar Archives. His DTs are moving in, Mind has some turrets. Vultures are out.
Bisu goes for Mind's main with DTs. They get some SCVs, Mind scans, but Bisu picks the DTs up with a shuttle.
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STOP! DOING! DTS!
Christ I used to love you mr Bee Suit, but I'm so sick and tired of the DT-play!
Beat someone straight up for once!
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Stream so choppy I can't really see whats going on... seemed like Bisu did alright.
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On May 16 2008 20:41 GinNtoniC wrote:
STOP! DOING! DTS!
Christ I used to love you mr Bee Suit, but I'm so sick and tired of the DT-play!
Beat someone straight up for once!
it's hard to throw away the trademark.
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On May 16 2008 20:41 GinNtoniC wrote:
STOP! DOING! DTS!
Christ I used to love you mr Bee Suit, but I'm so sick and tired of the DT-play!
Beat someone straight up for once!
Bisu going dts made mind builda lot more turrets than he wanted to for a timing push, and made mind use a lot of mines in his main... bisu is playing perfectly
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holy shit that was nicet timing and micro by Mind
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you mustnt lose now kim taek!
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however minds timing is sooo precise @_@
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Mind seems to be setting up a contain of sorts. Sieged tanks and turrets in the middle of the map. Bisu tries to break it, but doesn't have much success. Bisu is about 20 supply up though, and takes his troops around the main army of Mind. Kills quite a few tanks.
Bisu has his Arbiter Tribunal up. Mind's mines have done some damage but not significant.
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Bisu needs to find his former GOM TV MSL2 form
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Both players with some good moves here already.
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bisu playing super good all of a sudden
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Bisu with an arbiter out, Mind going for a 5th base while BIsu's 4th is warping in.
Even Daum is becoming a slideshow now though.
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oh snap bisu just might win this. Gosu contain break going around it and putting pressure on both sides, stopping reinforcements and getting a good position to break the contain!
Bisu Getting his 3rd expand and arbiters!
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Catyoul
France2377 Posts
Bisu taking his 4th now, he has arbiters.
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Bisu moves in with a large push on Mind's incomplete expansion. He's 30-40 supply up and has at least one Arbiter. Mind's army is getting butchered.
50 supply behind, Mind gg's out. Nice play by Bisu.
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Wow! Bisu played that part at the middle high ground out very, very wel!!
Beatiful cut-off of reinforcements and forcing of tank movement!
Looking very very solid in his PvT for once!
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THATS IT!!! THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! KIM TAEK FUCKING YONG!!! OMG YES!
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lol all favorites failed.
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BISU YES!!! u sick fuck where have u been?
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nice Bisu gets his revenge!
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Was it losing the Rax that killed Mind? Did he not have enough Factories or something, or was it just the Arbiter? It became difficult to tell there near the end.
Anyhow, 0/4. And I thought 1/4 on the last bunch was bad.
Edit: Wait, no, I was 0/4 for the last OSL group too. Wow. And after I started off so well this season.
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Best and Bisu leading an SKT revival. Oov's legacy. That's it, right the fuck here.
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Nice 0/4 today but bloody happy for bisu
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lol at these results
Only managed to snipe Bisu vs Mind, which I'm glad though
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3/4. only stork that let me down.
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
BISU <3 <3 <3 <3 hahaha YES
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Cutting off Mind's reinforcements! Nicely done Bisu
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I just have to say... the SKT uniforms look like something the US Olympics team would train in... during the 80s. My poor eyes!
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.. damn, that was actually some really good play from mr Gaytoss
On a micro-map like this it actually became very obvious why he's said over and over again in interviews that he doesn't feel that his PvT in starleagues have done him justice compared to training results - the PvT mechanics in this game were spot on, purely the mechanics, the thinking and use of units.
I didn't see this one coming at all.
ggyo
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I'm so happy that Bisu[Shield] won.
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That last attack by Bisu was nice
1/4
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Bisu for 1/4. YAY!
fuck you stork -_-
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On May 16 2008 20:49 BlackStar wrote:
lol all favorites failed.
I never favored Mind over Bisu
Game got a bit tense though-mines were deadly...
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Why does Liquibet say that Mind won?
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On May 16 2008 20:52 QibingZero wrote:
I just have to say... the SKT uniforms look like something the US Olympics team would train in... during the 80s. My poor eyes!
i think it's cute heheke
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On May 16 2008 20:53 Centric wrote:
Why does Liquibet say that Mind won?
I guess they didn't see this one coming either
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Fucking yeah!!!!!!! Thats what ppl want to see, Bisu choping the shit out of everyones asses. YEAH!!!!! Bisu for OSL CHAMPION!!!! After so many fucking nigths i spend watching you fall... u are finally maikng it!!!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
woa nice O_O
thought mind would win
damnit 1/4 -_-;
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On May 16 2008 20:53 Centric wrote:
Why does Liquibet say that Mind won?
sparing a point for the poor I suppose lol
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mind who?
hjahahha
bisu made it :X :X
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Okay, I missed a bit of that which mattered so I'd appreciate it if someone can fill me in on this one. Was right then with the DT's actually a good call> (I missed what damage it did) I mean I think it helped keep Mind in his base, while Bisu took that third expansion and massed enough units to beat the timing push. However, I didn't see much of the earlygame beyond Bisu taking that first zeal/goon for an attack, so I'd like to know if I missed anything which would change the above.
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1/4, Mind loosing in TvP... Horrible day...
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Lots of 0/4 today I guess :-)
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Inter.Mind -> Never.Mind ...
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On May 16 2008 20:56 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Okay, I missed a bit of that which mattered so I'd appreciate it if someone can fill me in on this one. Was right then with the DT's actually a good call> (I missed what damage it did) I mean I think it helped keep Mind in his base, while Bisu took that third expansion and massed enough units to beat the timing push. However, I didn't see much of the earlygame beyond Bisu taking that first zeal/goon for an attack, so I'd like to know if I missed anything which would change the above.
Fast DT was in fact not a good call at all. I mean, every terran and his grandma knows Bisu wants to DT rush so Mind timed his ebay and first turrets beautifully. I think his DTs scored him 2 SCVs and a depot.
Not a complete failure, but not the results he'd have wanted I'd imagine. It did give a pause to Mind's BO and momentum, which I think played out through the midgame - and that played out well for Bisu.
I'd still think he'd been better off foregoing the DTs, but I guess we won't know.
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bisu did nice job with his first goon and zealot thou the dt drop was somewhat not so effective,i thought mind could settle up a good position above bisu's 3rd expo but bee suit managed to cut off the reinforcements of mind which was the key in winning the game- there was a moment when the supply was pretty even for both and bisu was about to break i think but managed to out think mind using some nice strategic moves
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The Jangbi>Stork was so bloody inyourface after the group selection ceremony. Jangbi should be facerubbing Stork for a week after this.
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Ye, that was what I was wondering Gin. I mean, I can understand Bisu reverting to a strategy he feels comfortable with with an advantage, but I didn't get enough of the game to be able to judge if the DT's were worth it by holding Mind back in his base. Because after all, even if they did no damage the time they bought could have won the game -> and I didn't get to judge that, so I was wondering what people who saw it thought.
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SKT looking good in Starleagues this season so far :-) So happy for Oov.
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On May 16 2008 20:58 amorpheus wrote:he fuckin owns ...
damn i wonna buy sucha jacket
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Hey... take a look at calendar Wednesday 21st, Hanbit vs SKT
Funny lineup :-) No blues... SKT is changing.
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Lol, I remember on one of the Battle.net attack-like shows Bisu recommended doing DT drops for an easy win over terrans....so yeah, he definitely loves DT drops
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Just woke up to find out that Bisu had just won... although I'm sad I missed the game, Kim Taek Yong hwaiting!~
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On May 16 2008 21:07 Danger_Duck wrote:Lol, I remember on one of the Battle.net attack-like shows Bisu recommended doing DT drops for an easy win over terrans....so yeah, he definitely loves DT drops
Exactly, there was this guy who had submitted a question to the show commentators/hosts about any easy trick to beating terrans and Bisu basically insta-replied "fast DT drop them".
How he, after that, goes on to using that strat over and over again in starleagues is either moronic or super-ballsy. I mean let's face it, it's rarely done him any good, since everyone's prepared for it nowadays.
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On May 16 2008 21:17 tKd_ wrote:
good day for protoss
Not only this. Look how many we got in TSL, OSL and they are winning...
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0/4 and happy about it, fuck yeah beesuit! :D
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fuck!!! fuck!!! fuck!!! all the favourite lost. i really hate the way  NaDa and Mind lose. fucking  Bisu, fucking (P)Best, try to advance, NaDa and Mind will come back and rape u all. u 2 shall pay 4 it 
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I'm 0/4 for today and droped only from 225 to 250:-D
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Why the fuck does Troy exist?
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Wow, i got 4/4.
Well, that voting is easy for me, i hate stork, i hate yarnc,i hate sea and i hate mind so i voted the other players and got 4/4.
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HAHAHAHAH stork and yarnc
yay bisu
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YES BISSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Isn't it suspicious how Stork, statistically the best PvP, chose his teammate Jangbi, who isnt so impressive PvP, for his first match, and lost? (just wondering )
Edit: "1 sunken no ring" anyone?
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On May 16 2008 21:55 Hyperionnn wrote:Wow, i got 4/4. Well, that voting is easy for me, i hate stork, i hate yarnc,i hate sea and i hate mind so i voted the other players and got 4/4. why do you hate sea?
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lol sea lost. What a poser, he always manages to choke.
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On May 16 2008 22:49 o3.power91 wrote:Isn't it suspicious how Stork, statistically the best PvP, chose his teammate Jangbi, who isnt so impressive PvP, for his first match, and lost? (just wondering )
Shhhhhhh
dont tell them ;P
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On May 16 2008 21:28 Uligor wrote:
0/4 and happy about it, fuck yeah beesuit! :D I'm with you on that one
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On May 16 2008 23:55 Kacas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 22:49 o3.power91 wrote:Isn't it suspicious how Stork, statistically the best PvP, chose his teammate Jangbi, who isnt so impressive PvP, for his first match, and lost? (just wondering ) Shhhhhhh dont tell them ;P
haha ^^ yeah stork did that on purpose...
best > stork
jangbi > nada
and stork is OUT gg no re
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On May 17 2008 00:14 ScarFace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 21:28 Uligor wrote:
0/4 and happy about it, fuck yeah beesuit! :D I'm with you on that one
Ts. Real fans get 1/4
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1/4, liquibetting from the heart. ;o
(Although I hate stork, I want epic games later on in the tourney)
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On May 17 2008 00:20 ShAsTa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2008 00:14 ScarFace wrote:On May 16 2008 21:28 Uligor wrote:
0/4 and happy about it, fuck yeah beesuit! :D I'm with you on that one Ts. Real fans get 1/4 Hey buddy, I voted for Savior and Bisu every other time they were on Liquibet. At one point you begin to get tired of losing
I guess I was taught a lesson though, eh?
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1/4, my worst season ever. At least my faith in the Royal Orgasmic Cock Kicker payed off as usual.
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<3 Fuuuuu, haha, 1/4...And the only one I got right was JangBi~. :3 Craaaaaaaazy results...I'm a bit surprised that Mind lost...
xO I'm still looking at the results, and can hardly comprehend what happened...I'll have to go watch the VODs soon~ x3
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On May 16 2008 23:55 Kacas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 22:49 o3.power91 wrote:Isn't it suspicious how Stork, statistically the best PvP, chose his teammate Jangbi, who isnt so impressive PvP, for his first match, and lost? (just wondering ) Shhhhhhh dont tell them ;P
January and her OSL conspiracies.... anyone still remember the proleague finals? Frozean 50% winning chance against JD.. we all thought she was joking till...
+ Show Spoiler +Frozean raped Jaedong.. big time. I though JD was crying for a moment there.
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lol wtf, 0/4
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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2/4,
i had sea losing along with the twins
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I DONT CARE IF BISU FUCKED ME, SEA LOST~~~
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2/4
Rock and Bisu
The votes I picked as upsets won, while the sure picks lost.
Fuck.
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1/4... voted for Rumble, his ZvZ isn't that bad. Also: I'm pretty shocked Bisu beat Mind on Hwarangdo of all maps. I wonder if this is the start of his returning to form or if it was a fluke (please be the first >.> ).
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Netherlands1231 Posts
0/4 rofl, this OSL will be horrible =(
Stork can't win anymore.
Rock carriers Sea.
Rumble???? destroying yarnc (don't care much about these but wtf anyway)
Mind getting asskicked by Bisu I can live with though, he deserved his revenge and Bisu is a good player.
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Worst Voting Streak 9 Wrong votes in a row
thx to today's matches
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minds tvp isn't anywhere as good as u guyz put it. he's always behind mid or early game and only manage to get ahead in late game from vultures.
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Hmm an actual 0/4
Fuck.
Lol from now on I'm just gonna vote from the heart. No more checking statistics n shit.
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On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it
oh yes, its impossible TvP wihle the map stats are 6-6, sea winning a handful of those games.
stop making excuses for sea to continually fail in individual leagues.
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2 / 4
Bisu + Jangbi hells yea
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Netherlands1231 Posts
On May 17 2008 05:27 blagoonga123 wrote:
Hmm an actual 0/4
Fuck.
Lol from now on I'm just gonna vote from the heart. No more checking statistics n shit.
The good news is I only dropped about 15 ranks since rock, jangbi and rumble were pretty much the underdogs that nobody voted for. Sadly Bisu vs Mind was pretty even but still, it could be worse, pointwise.
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1/4
God I thought my heart was gonna be broken again.. GO BISU!!
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On May 17 2008 07:24 IntoTheWow wrote:
2/4 Rock & Jangbi
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haha nice going rock
I was wondering when someone was finally gonna do a succesful 2 gate rush and destroy an assimilator on that map, unless I somehow missed that happening before. Didn't really expect Sea to beat him either way.
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On May 17 2008 06:08 kyjori wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it oh yes, its impossible TvP wihle the map stats are 6-6, sea winning a handful of those games. stop making excuses for sea to continually fail in individual leagues.
you're an utter moron
i mean seriously i say something that is sensible and reasonable and you're gonna throw the map's pvt stats at me? briiiiiilliant. Nevermind the BBS games and the fact that Daezang couldnt play his way out of a paper bag at the time when Sea beat him on this map. Nevermind the fact that EVERY TIME A PROTOSS HAS DONE A BUILD MEANT TO KILL THOSE ASSIMILATORS EARLY ON, THEY HAVE WON. Nevermind the fact that once those assimilators are dead, the protoss has complete map control and a ton of gas and there isn't a damn thing terran can do about it. The map is 6-6 it must be completely balanced!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's fucking annoying listening to a bunch of retards spout off about how Sea is only on the Power Rank because I like him.
He was 10th last Power Rank and OFF IT the month before. Why? Because he wasn't playing well. Why is he 5th right now? Because he's playing well! This shit isn't rocket science, and there are far too many people who don't put any thought into the things they say. No matter where Sea is placed there will be a chorus of people to say HES TOO HIGH FAKESTEVE YOU ARE BIASED AND STUPID GOD I HATE YOU
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On May 17 2008 09:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2008 06:08 kyjori wrote:On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it oh yes, its impossible TvP wihle the map stats are 6-6, sea winning a handful of those games. stop making excuses for sea to continually fail in individual leagues. you're an utter moron i mean seriously i say something that is sensible and reasonable and you're gonna throw the map's pvt stats at me? briiiiiilliant. Nevermind the BBS games and the fact that Daezang couldnt play his way out of a paper bag at the time when Sea beat him on this map. Nevermind the fact that EVERY TIME A PROTOSS HAS DONE A BUILD MEANT TO KILL THOSE ASSIMILATORS EARLY ON, THEY HAVE WON. Nevermind the fact that once those assimilators are dead, the protoss has complete map control and a ton of gas and there isn't a damn thing terran can do about it. The map is 6-6 it must be completely balanced!!!!!!!!!!!
If Sea had flown to 1 instead of Rock's main with that first huge goliath drop he would have won. He got too greedy and tried to go for the main. Rock had 1 carrier, so killing the assimilator asap and raping one main would have won sea the game. (Korean commentators pointed this out as well)
He certainly had opportunities ;o just bad decision making
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2/4 bisu and rumble
should have picked rock though.
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On May 17 2008 10:21 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2008 09:52 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On May 17 2008 06:08 kyjori wrote:On May 16 2008 19:05 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody should really be surprised by this, if i really cared about liquibet i'd have voted rock
the map is basically impossible to win tvp if you lose your assimilator early on, and there wasnt a damn thing sea could have done about it oh yes, its impossible TvP wihle the map stats are 6-6, sea winning a handful of those games. stop making excuses for sea to continually fail in individual leagues. you're an utter moron i mean seriously i say something that is sensible and reasonable and you're gonna throw the map's pvt stats at me? briiiiiilliant. Nevermind the BBS games and the fact that Daezang couldnt play his way out of a paper bag at the time when Sea beat him on this map. Nevermind the fact that EVERY TIME A PROTOSS HAS DONE A BUILD MEANT TO KILL THOSE ASSIMILATORS EARLY ON, THEY HAVE WON. Nevermind the fact that once those assimilators are dead, the protoss has complete map control and a ton of gas and there isn't a damn thing terran can do about it. The map is 6-6 it must be completely balanced!!!!!!!!!!! If Sea had flown to 1 instead of Rock's main with that first huge goliath drop he would have won. He got too greedy and tried to go for the main. Rock had 1 carrier, so killing the assimilator asap and raping one main would have won sea the game. (Korean commentators pointed this out as well) He certainly had opportunities ;o just bad decision making
i had thought about that when i was watching his first drop but i came to the conclusion that it would have merely delayed the inevitable. Rock could easily afford those carriers and goons without that base. If you saw how large Rock's goon force was.. I mean at worst he'd have half that many goons if he lost that base and that'd still be enough to seal it
Sea's error in that game was the build order itself, he obviously had a backup plan if he lost his assimilator but i didnt see a path to victory at all once rock's carriers began
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Dude, it's not THAT easy taking down assimilators-I'm still not convinced that if researched seige and made 2 tanks rather than tank + vult/mine protoss still automatically knocks down the assim.
You said he can spread goons, but if you look back, Rock BARELY was able to push the tank back to take potshots at the assimilator...
And if Sea scouted it out, he coulda planted a bunker...all I'm saying that taking down the assimilator is not automatic
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But you're right in a sense-I think Flash said Troy was imba TvP because he thought assimilators would go down easy, but he has managed to avoid it...
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On May 16 2008 21:02 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Ye, that was what I was wondering Gin. I mean, I can understand Bisu reverting to a strategy he feels comfortable with with an advantage, but I didn't get enough of the game to be able to judge if the DT's were worth it by holding Mind back in his base. Because after all, even if they did no damage the time they bought could have won the game -> and I didn't get to judge that, so I was wondering what people who saw it thought.
I don't think it delayed him at all. As already mentioned, it killed a few SCV's, a supply depot and forced a few mines. Maybe those few extra mines would have made the push more powerful at the time Mind pushed out, but I don't think it affected Mind's timing at all.
Mind's play is so good. I'm liking him more and more every time I watch the guy
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On May 16 2008 21:13 GinNtoniC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 21:07 Danger_Duck wrote:Lol, I remember on one of the Battle.net attack-like shows Bisu recommended doing DT drops for an easy win over terrans....so yeah, he definitely loves DT drops Exactly, there was this guy who had submitted a question to the show commentators/hosts about any easy trick to beating terrans and Bisu basically insta-replied "fast DT drop them". How he, after that, goes on to using that strat over and over again in starleagues is either moronic or super-ballsy. I mean let's face it, it's rarely done him any good, since everyone's prepared for it nowadays.
He obviously planned arbiters, so he needed archives anyways. He was always going to get a shuttle, so the only two "extra" units he builds are the two DTs.
He kept both DTs and shuttle alive for a very long time, and he did kill some stuff, and made Mind waste mines, time and scans back home in stead of somewhere dangerous for Bisu. In addition Mind had used a lot of scans before the Arbiters arrived. He might not have been empty, but it seemed to me that he could not scan as much as he wanted during that last battle.
Defending vs DTs does not come for free (vs a good player).
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