On May 09 2008 17:13 LosingID8 wrote: i would watch and translate important stuff but i have my korean final tomorrow T_T
Isn't it good studying
eh, eh?
Get some more practice in, boy!
I kid ^~
lol i used to use that as an excuse for myself
but this stuff that i'm learning is completely unrelated to korean, really. i have to be able to write out ~1000 hanja (chinese) characters in traditional.
On May 09 2008 18:46 GTR-2-Go wrote: this may sound funny but is rock the only person to participate in all ever sponsored starleagues? (2004, 05, 07, 08)
Looking it up, Rock was not in Ever 2005. But amazingly, Nada and July were in all four Ever starleagues.
dont think so. i even think that nada is quite an opponent for flash and he wont have an easy time playing him. if bisu picked mind thats other case. in such a case bisu gotta get ready for the new tvp powerhouse !
I like the way Bisu picks strong players that have beat him before. It shows that he is not afraid of them. This is coming from someone who has never been a Bisu fan.
Bisu versus Mind. Oh dear. I love Bisu, but I just don't think that matchup is going to work out for him well unless he stops using DT's and plays some damned perfect PvT.
▶ EVER 스타리그 2008 2차 본선 16강 대진표 A조 - 이영호(테), 김준영(저), 안기효(프), 염보성(테) B조 - 송병구(프), 허영무(프), 도재욱(프), 이윤열(테) C조 - 박찬수(저), 박성준(저), 박명수(저), 윤종민(저) D조 - 김택용(프), 박성균(테), 박영민(프), 손찬웅(프)
▶ EVER 스타리그 2008 2차 본선 16강 경기일정 ◆ 5월 14일 수요일 오후 7시 30분 16강 A조 1경기 화랑도 이영호(테) vs 김준영(저) 16강 B조 1경기 트로이 도재욱(프) vs 이윤열(테) 16강 C조 1경기 오델로 박찬수(저) vs 박성준(저) 16강 D조 1경기 안드로메다 박영민(프) vs 손찬웅(프)
◆ 5월 16일 금요일 오후 6시 30분 16강 A조 2경기 트로이 안기효(프) vs 염보성(테) 16강 B조 2경기 오델로 송병구(프) vs 허영무(프) 16강 C조 2경기 안드로메다 박명수(저) vs 윤종민(저) 16강 D조 2경기 화랑도 김택용(프) vs 박성균(테)
◆ 5월 21일 수요일 오후 7시 30분 16강 A조 3경기 오델로 안기효(프) vs 이영호(테) 16강 B조 3경기 안드로메다 허영무(프) vs 이윤열(테) 16강 C조 3경기 화랑도 박찬수(저) vs 박명수(저) 16강 D조 3경기 트로이 박성균(테) vs 손찬웅(프)
◆ 5월 23일 금요일 오후 6시 30분 16강 A조 4경기 오델로 김준영(저) vs 염보성(테) 16강 B조 4경기 안드로메다 송병구(프) vs 도재욱(프) 16강 C조 4경기 화랑도 박성준(저) vs 윤종민(저) 16강 D조 4경기 트로이 김택용(프) vs 박영민(프)
◆ 5월 28일 수요일 오후 7시 30분 16강 A조 5경기 안드로메다 염보성(테) vs 이영호(테) 16강 B조 5경기 화랑도 허영무(프) vs 도재욱(프) 16강 C조 5경기 트로이 윤종민(저) vs 박찬수(저) 16강 D조 5경기 오델로 박성균(테) vs 박영민(프)
◆ 5월 30일 금요일 오후 6시 30분 16강 A조 6경기 안드로메다 김준영(저) vs 안기효(프) 16강 B조 6경기 화랑도 이윤열(테) vs 송병구(프) 16강 C조 6경기 트로이 박성준(저) vs 박명수(저) 16강 D조 6경기 오델로 손찬웅(프) vs 김택용(프)
I honestly think PvT is Bisu's best matchup at the moment. Look at how hard a time he gave Flash last OSL. With that said, I hope Mind crushes him because Bisu just overexpands without having the resources to do so.
DT into double expo seems to be his only strat, so I'm hoping Mind goes scan into timing push! Just so that Bisu can wake up and stop playing the same strats over and over.
well i don't understand what GTR-2go wrote coz when did lucifer quealify for OSL and what's that heck with autumn...so messy..could someone just post the groups and explain what's that what gtr-2go wrote ?
group A should be quite interesting, ggplay and flash should advance group B is also very tough I supppose Best and Stork should make it. all zerg group wow, rumble's got a decent zvz but same for the twins and july, luxury and rumble is my pick but anyone can make it. group D - bisu and mind should have no problems.
Much can give both Bisu and Mind a run for their money. As Daigomi said though, Bisu needs to stop the DT and double expanding and trust to his skills. A little like he did in the eSTRO/SKT game.
On May 09 2008 22:24 Spyder wrote: well i don't understand what GTR-2go wrote coz when did lucifer quealify for OSL and what's that heck with autumn...so messy..could someone just post the groups and explain what's that what gtr-2go wrote ?
I bet what Daigomi did was that he used an automated function to translate the Korean names matching them with the TLPD. Those were you get an "or" is where you have two players with the same name, such as Flash and Lucifer, both are named Lee Young Ho, (이영호) and the function does not know which of them it is.
God..... PvP is a snore feast and ZvZ will probably get rid of July... I just wish that Nada and Best makes it out of group B, Rock proxy/cheesing his way and Mind siege his way through. Then I would be happy... :D
the whole process sounds like wtf. -race overload imbalance. -Stork picking teammate -Group D gets a freewill of picking ppl -Nada picked last?? are ppl avoiding him for fear or boredom?
Sucks for Flash getting a all-rounder. I think Flash and Sea will make it.
i hate it when groups like c occur. its impossible to predict. and yellow vs luxury should be totally unpredictable seriously. it will be really funny to watch
OMG! Finally I get to see Flash vs Sea. Been waiting for that for almost a year. Batlle of the prodigys~! Havent been this excited for a TvT since Oov vs NaDa final when Oov was on a tear in MSL.
Didnt know there could be 4 zergs in one group, unless the OP isnt properly updated.
fuck thats gay..I wanted july/yarnc/lux to make it to at least ro16 :/
Well I guess yarnc and lux is pretty much the same shit though when I think about it, I wonder what kind of game they're going to play? Can't wait to see the expression on their faces when they do
lol@Nada+Mind
What a perfect scenario of parallelism, Mind will probably destroy everyone, Nada may be in for the fight of his sorry life..but at least he's got only 1 mu to work on the whole time through..and the maps are quite excellent for TvP I'd say, especially Andromeda.
Group A is a nice twist..If rock makes it I'll be so fucking pissed though. Flash/GGplay Yes!
On May 10 2008 07:12 Wasabi wrote: I wonder how many TvPs will be played on Wemade's practice house. Rock has 2 Terrans in his group, while both Mind and Nada have an all Protoss group.
Rock never improves despite having had a godly ZvP'er and a godly TvP as his practice teammates for so long.
On May 10 2008 07:12 Wasabi wrote: I wonder how many TvPs will be played on Wemade's practice house. Rock has 2 Terrans in his group, while both Mind and Nada have an all Protoss group.
Rock never improves despite having had a godly ZvP'er and a godly TvP as his practice teammates for so long.
Who's the godly ZvP'er? Silver? Because I was under the impression that he was a one trick pony.
Group A; the battle of the prodigies. While one has been shadowed amongst the greats, and still has potential... the other is a rising monster, taking names left and right. Group B; Nada to prove himself with macro gods of Protoss. Group C; fighting amongst oneselves. Group D; Will Bisu's so-called "slump" allow Mind to walk all over him again, or will he take vengeance into his own hands?
if nada wins i garantee mind plays the exact same way in group D since they play similar and r in the same team and have 3 protoss' lol. this will be interesting. Very excited for Group A though ^^
and Group C looks like a lottery ticket to Jaedong but since he is out July or Luxury will probably take it.
I like the groups. The probability of a race balanced ro8 is quite good. 2Zerg and 2Protoss will be in the ro8 for sure and mind and flash are probably strong enough to advance, too.
Group A is really really interesting. I think the fact that flash had map choice for first game gives him a hudge advantage over ggplay. flash should really advance from that group and i think the 2nd place will be between sea and ggplay, rock should fail in such a group.
Group B has Storks best matchups, a pvt sniper jangbi who has a good chance to beat nada again and Best who is getting stronger and stronger. Stork might choke in finals, but i think thats the right group for him to advance. I think nada will advance as second, since he can focus on one matchup.
Group C is weird but might be cool. I think Luxury is the best zvz out of them and his brother yarnc is the worst. So its between july and rumble. I hope for july to advance.
Gruop D has mind as a clear favourite imho. Much and bisu are both very good in pvp. Its a tossup like rumble/july imo. Backho sucks.
On May 10 2008 08:18 Danger_Duck wrote: They should really put that "I devise my own demise" song back in-I was thinking that a lot watching the recent games...
On May 10 2008 07:12 Wasabi wrote: I wonder how many TvPs will be played on Wemade's practice house. Rock has 2 Terrans in his group, while both Mind and Nada have an all Protoss group.
Rock never improves despite having had a godly ZvP'er and a godly TvP as his practice teammates for so long.
Who's the godly ZvP'er? Silver? Because I was under the impression that he was a one trick pony.
Silver is no way a one trick pony. He had this rare talent for playing nearly all his ZvPs with pure hydra and destroying fe at an instance. vs Bisu
Plus he had some very inventive builds to compensate for his mechanical weaknesses and was extremely good at fending off cheese from P players.
I became a fan for him after he declared retirement and i started to look more deeply into him. Turns out he was a pretty cool player, never seen a zerg play like him.
And lets not forget he went up to an MSL Final solely because of his capacity to raping protoss.
On May 10 2008 07:06 ._. wrote: fuck thats gay..I wanted july/yarnc/lux to make it to at least ro16 :/
Well I guess yarnc and lux is pretty much the same shit though when I think about it, I wonder what kind of game they're going to play? Can't wait to see the expression on their faces when they do
lol@Nada+Mind
What a perfect scenario of parallelism, Mind will probably destroy everyone, Nada may be in for the fight of his sorry life..but at least he's got only 1 mu to work on the whole time through..and the maps are quite excellent for TvP I'd say, especially Andromeda.
Group A is a nice twist..If rock makes it I'll be so fucking pissed though. Flash/GGplay Yes!
On May 10 2008 07:06 ._. wrote: fuck thats gay..I wanted july/yarnc/lux to make it to at least ro16 :/
Well I guess yarnc and lux is pretty much the same shit though when I think about it, I wonder what kind of game they're going to play? Can't wait to see the expression on their faces when they do
lol@Nada+Mind
What a perfect scenario of parallelism, Mind will probably destroy everyone, Nada may be in for the fight of his sorry life..but at least he's got only 1 mu to work on the whole time through..and the maps are quite excellent for TvP I'd say, especially Andromeda.
Group A is a nice twist..If rock makes it I'll be so fucking pissed though. Flash/GGplay Yes!
Why is nada's life "sorry" exactly?
He hasn't had a good mu in TvP in PL, he's 1-1.
Aside from the 3 gold osl and msl, there's nothing to be sorry about.
On May 10 2008 10:44 DTF-ZeRo wrote: Gruop D has mind as a clear favourite imho. Much and bisu are both very good in pvp. Its a tossup like rumble/july imo. Backho sucks.
On May 10 2008 10:44 DTF-ZeRo wrote: Gruop D has mind as a clear favourite imho. Much and bisu are both very good in pvp. Its a tossup like rumble/july imo. Backho sucks.
On May 10 2008 07:12 Wasabi wrote: I wonder how many TvPs will be played on Wemade's practice house. Rock has 2 Terrans in his group, while both Mind and Nada have an all Protoss group.
Rock never improves despite having had a godly ZvP'er and a godly TvP as his practice teammates for so long.
Who's the godly ZvP'er? Silver? Because I was under the impression that he was a one trick pony.
Silver is no way a one trick pony. He had this rare talent for playing nearly all his ZvPs with pure hydra and destroying fe at an instance. vs Bisu http://youtube.com/watch?v=eVPceDzV7pc
Plus he had some very inventive builds to compensate for his mechanical weaknesses and was extremely good at fending off cheese from P players.
I became a fan for him after he declared retirement and i started to look more deeply into him. Turns out he was a pretty cool player, never seen a zerg play like him.
And lets not forget he went up to an MSL Final solely because of his capacity to raping protoss.
Cool, thanks for the information (seriously ) I was basing my opinion solely on the two or so VODs of his I could find, combined with the answers found in my blog post here.
On May 10 2008 07:06 ._. wrote: fuck thats gay..I wanted july/yarnc/lux to make it to at least ro16 :/
Well I guess yarnc and lux is pretty much the same shit though when I think about it, I wonder what kind of game they're going to play? Can't wait to see the expression on their faces when they do
lol@Nada+Mind
What a perfect scenario of parallelism, Mind will probably destroy everyone, Nada may be in for the fight of his sorry life..but at least he's got only 1 mu to work on the whole time through..and the maps are quite excellent for TvP I'd say, especially Andromeda.
Group A is a nice twist..If rock makes it I'll be so fucking pissed though. Flash/GGplay Yes!
Why is nada's life "sorry" exactly?
He hasn't had a good mu in TvP in PL, he's 1-1.
Aside from the 3 gold osl and msl, there's nothing to be sorry about.
Ah didn't mean to say it like that.
All I'm saying is that he has a real tough group and considering he's going to be set next to his teammate, he's in the fight for his life. Can the old veteran hold up? We'll just have to see.
lol. NaDa will excel in a group of protoss,. y r u all so worry about? NaDa's TvP owns, so i will expect him to be the 1st in his group follow up by Stork considering Stork isn't slumpy.