Well, maybe the executions in the games and the end results were not so great, but I really was very tired of same old strategies on those maps in every MU.

I didn't watch the games live, just now, but gotta admit there were very exciting (at least for me):
- Jaedong not expoing, the attack, the waiting for obs and then the reaver drop;
- Rumble delaying his gas, made 3rd expo very fast, the zealot attack, the first hydra push and the drop in Rock's main;
- Luxury nice cheesy, Bisu's lonely probe @ 1o'clock (that, I thought at one moment, could save the game for Bisu);
- No carriers in TvP on Katrina, instead - a lot of arbiters and stasis/recall, a lot of dead SCVs from storm, nice mines through the whole game;

Yeah, I feel very bad for sAviOr, Sea, Bisu, but I really enjoyed this games (maybe I am a freak?!).

disciple

9070 Posts

January 31 2008 00:15 GMT

#306

I agree that Bisu's lategame owns, but how to get there ? I think the guy just has a bad luck- let face it- on the last OSL he played Stork, yeah right the pvp monster and it wasnt smth new that Bisu will lose that, even on MSL he beat stork with some big, fat luck. Than he lost 3-4 games vs Zerg but on Blue Storm... vs GGplay, vs Savior, vs Jaedong and vs July. The one against Jaedong was epic and I can understand Bisu and his noobish play against yarnc. Lets just say it - Blue Storm is Bisu's graveyard - the map is just x96 and its quite easy to defend the expo's for the zerg- thats why Bisu lost to Jaedong - the harass was good but still Jae managed to get his macro up and running. Remember the last time Bisu won on Blue Storm agains Zerg? I feel very sorry for him, because he showed good play against T it will be a great loss for the OSL, but still we have the invitational to come, where oh God, Jaedong is facing the oldschool TvZ masters and Bisu will fight his terran teammates. And if you pls give me some stats about the 5pools against toss, i still think its 80% autowin

semioldguy

United States7488 Posts

January 31 2008 02:11 GMT

#307

On January 31 2008 04:52 Hot_Bid wrote:
if Bisu got cross positions or scouted the correct direction, that 5 pool is toast... so basically lux has a 1/3 chance of *probably* winning, and a 2/3 chance of almost certainly losing. not a very good build imo, luxury was lucky it worked this time.

diehilde, it has nothing to do with Bisu not being flexible, just about every other toss FEs nowadays too, and forge is the easiest way to stop 5 pool anyway.

if you want to argue about Bisu's inflexibility the best case is made after the forge and cannons, and even then he sometimes goes robo or citadel after stargate. to suggest that Bisu lost because he's somehow more susceptible to 5 pool (lol) than other tosses is ridiculous.

He might of thought that 1/3 chance was better than his chance at playing him straight up. Luxury hasn't been historically great against Protoss and Bisu, though not getting great results recently against Zerg, should still be considered among the best at the matchup considering the nature of his losses.

Also luxury might like the early pool as he 4 pooled in an ODT game against Flash this season as well.

antelope591

Canada820 Posts

January 31 2008 02:27 GMT

#308

Dunno why I keep voting for Bisu....I knew Lux was gonna win but I still voted out of hope

. Just have to come to terms that Savior and Bisu's times may be up.

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 31 2008 02:29 GMT

#309

An amazing 0/4

SayTT

Sweden2158 Posts

January 31 2008 03:05 GMT

#310

Great, now xellos has a shot! GO XELLOS!

noobienoob

United States1173 Posts

January 31 2008 03:11 GMT

#311

On January 31 2008 11:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
An amazing 0/4

oh wow, me too <_> time to go watch that jaedong game

edit: nice build, reminds me of the game in this thread, LOL
definitely not a bad try though

there goes bisu... :/
gj lux :p

talismania

United States2364 Posts

January 31 2008 06:13 GMT

#312

2/4 somehow... I guess this is what happens when you're up 2-0 and have been practicing zvz... you do crazy shit like one hatch all in lurker and 5 pool.

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

January 31 2008 06:19 GMT

#313

On January 31 2008 08:50 Live2Win wrote:
Bad month for progaming I gotta say.

i disagree, although it wasnt the greatest, there were some GREAT games from MBC/CJ and Jaedong/Bisu was good as well

noojOh

United States755 Posts

January 31 2008 06:30 GMT

#314

lol i got 2/4 but surprising i went up like 20-something places to 99
did everyone get like 0/4 or something?

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

January 31 2008 07:47 GMT

#315

lol... I don't think cross positions matters vs 9 or 10 forge when you are 5 pooling.

OneOther

United States10774 Posts

January 31 2008 08:14 GMT

#316

On January 31 2008 16:47 SuperJongMan wrote:
lol... I don't think cross positions matters vs 9 or 10 forge when you are 5 pooling.

it does because the Protoss would have cannons earlier which means less probe death

Dreamer]

Sweden358 Posts

January 31 2008 12:30 GMT

#317

I love it how people praise boxer and Nal_ra for their all in cheesy strategies and at the same time hates zerg for doing 4/5-pool (especially "the king of 4-pool" Jju)