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United States7488 Posts
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cool gonna watch this cuz Im having a hard time sleeping Does anyone know the format for selection? All I remember from last season is 4th seed is 1-3's bitch
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United States7488 Posts
Selection Format:
First seed picks a player for his group Second seed picks a player for his group Third seed picks a player for his group
Fist seed picks a player for group four Second seed picks a player for group four Third seed picks a player for group four
The player the first seed picked for his own group picks the next player for their group The player the second seed picked for his own group picks the next player for their group The player the third seed picked for his own group picks the next player for their group
The player picked third for the first group picks the final player for the group The player picked third for the second group picks the final player for the group The last player goes to group three
At least that is how it was last season.
Also Jaedong was the last player to be put into a group in the last OSL.
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thx
prediction: Jaedong -> Sea -> Luxury -> Frozean Stork -> Flash -> Best -> Backho Bisu -> Yarnc -> Xellos -> Rumble Much -> Rock -> sAviOr -> July
edit: no1s gonna watch?
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CA10828 Posts
i think i might watch... but i'm not sure
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only reason i gota make sure i watch is, i doubt there will be a vod. crossing my fingers my daumplayer stream isn't choppy/laggy =\
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I might watch beggining. I think it will be my first time watching any selection live btw now that I think about it
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United States20661 Posts
I never understand the point of watching selection since I don't understand Korean
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:24 Last Romantic wrote: I never understand the point of watching selection since I don't understand Korean
well at least ull know who picks who and who trash talks who right o_ O
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sometimes we get translations for the more amusing statements/picks... hopefully that tradition will continue.
I know enough Korean to know the names, so atleast I'll know who picks who. But other than that, I'm relying on translations on tl, heh.
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United States20661 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:27 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:24 Last Romantic wrote: I never understand the point of watching selection since I don't understand Korean well at least ull know who picks who and who trash talks who right o_ O
Yeah but I can always read afterwards
Watching a game live at least has some excitement.
Watching group selection is such a frustrating experience for me since I'm always like 'why did they laugh?!'
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United States7488 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:24 Last Romantic wrote: I never understand the point of watching selection since I don't understand Korean
That would make sense.
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This is an awesome opener! seeing all the players sign their name on their picture.
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savior dropping his picture, crowd laughing, him smiling.. hehehe
Oh, I guess nobody really needs live reports for this.
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Rofl at savior dropping his pic
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didnt someone put a Selection on vod tracker b4? like hell I would dl it, unless it have trash talking and keyboard smashing.
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51471 Posts
OMG HAHA SAVIOR #1
also OGN showcasing their new ugly uniforms courtesy of le qoque or something.
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was that bacchus july was drinking?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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July walks out, takes a giant swig of Bachhus energy drink, then signs his name..
(not making that up)
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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July drinking Bacchus and signing XD
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omg daumplayer room is full nooooo
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
does bisu get the most screams from the girls or what
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On January 11 2008 18:36 alffla wrote: does bisu get the most screams from the girls or what
na Xellos did
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lol daumplayer is soooo clear
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no cheers for stork lol?
laughter?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Terran are so unbelievably fucked with this map pool
Katrina is 22-11 in favor of Protoss over Terran, Blue Storm is 29-14 in favor of Zerg over Terran, Troy looks like utter hell for TvZ and TvP, and TvZ/TvP on Haunted Forest looks like they'll be a total joke.
I don't know how they overlooked this... with only 4 Terrans in the OSL to begin with, don't look for any of them to make it too far
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On January 11 2008 18:36 kNyTTyM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:36 alffla wrote: does bisu get the most screams from the girls or what na Xellos did Xellos 1st, Bisu 2nd
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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After all the players came out.
Biggest screams went like this
1. Xellos 2. Savior 3. Bisu 4. Much 5. Yarnc/Jaedong, etc etc
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CA10828 Posts
ok i'll try and translate some stuff
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Much needs to eat some food
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Kind of a weird layout. Does D become hell group because the top 3 seeds want to keep the best players out of their group?
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I'd say Bisu over Savior, but Xellos definitely got the most :\.
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k new room poped up and i got it. now to make it stop buffering every 5 seconds...
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United States20661 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:41 LonelyMargarita wrote: Kind of a weird layout. Does D become hell group because the top 3 seeds want to keep the best players out of their group?
Yeah, 4th seed is in bad position.
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On January 11 2008 18:41 LonelyMargarita wrote: Kind of a weird layout. Does D become hell group because the top 3 seeds want to keep the best players out of their group?
I think the top 3 seeds will try to prove themselves, so theyll put strong players in their groups
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also, where can I see new maps?
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Any1 that speaks korean currently watching this?
[edited]
LosinID please translate the most significants stuff if u can pls
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sea wants jaedong to choose him
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China3334 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:42 Nintu wrote: also, where can I see new maps?
look at the front page =]
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why do i not like the osl commentators compared to the msl ones?
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4th seed has new ability.^^ Much could be vito only one player of 3 players which was picked by higher seed players.
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On January 11 2008 18:44 Passenger wrote: 4th seed has new ability.^^ Much could be vito only one player of 3 players which was picked by higher seed players.
Woot nice So he can avoid Savior or Xellos if he wants
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On January 11 2008 18:43 Emlary wrote:look at the front page =]
Rofl, but I never look at the front page! v_v
+ Show Spoiler +
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:44 Passenger wrote: 4th seed has new ability.^^ Much could be vito only one player of 3 players which was picked by higher seed players.
could be helpful with a couple other strong CJ players in the draw.
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CA10828 Posts
jaedong's interview:
"hello lee jae dong" *mic problems* lol "hi, i am lecaf's lee jae dong" "you are the top seed. please say "last season i was the last one picked, so i didn't get to say much so it was a bit disappointing. but i think this time it will be fun" "during the end of 2007 you were picked as the strongest zerg. people have been saying rather than going for an easy way up, you're planning on choosing the hardest opponents" "well at the moment i am thinking about picking both "easy" and difficult players *(random talk about sea...)* "after winning the OSL do you notice any difference from before and after from people?" "now when people hear my name they associate it with winning the OSL, so it feels good" "have you decided who you will choose? you seemed undecided a few minutes ago" "yes i have decided. because i have the 1st choice there are a lot of players that i wanted to have an opportunity to play against." "please choose your opponent" JAEDONG CHOOSES SAVIOR
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On January 11 2008 18:46 Passenger wrote: JaeDong picked Savior.
Jaedong wants easy matchup?
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AUH MAH JAE YOON!! edit: those twins look badass tdaaoi
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Savior's CJ face breaks! He smiles at Jaedong chooses him!
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JD picks MJY sorry my feed is probably years behind. (YY)
added: oh what the shit @ OGN's uniform. getting worse and worse.
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On January 11 2008 18:46 samachking wrote:Jaedong wants easy matchup?
fuck that. jaedong feels guilty about taking the zerg throne and wants to give it back
+ Show Spoiler +
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
loll wtf jaeong chose savior o_O
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Savior wont be very happy with this I pray he doesnt get 0-3'd here too
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savior & Jaedong promised to co-make group of death before.
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On January 11 2008 18:49 Passenger wrote: savior & Jaedong promised to co-make group of death before.
I think only one can get out of the group
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China3334 Posts
COME ON BISU!
choose the no-name kid who drove you out of MSL!
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On January 11 2008 18:46 LosingID8 wrote: jaedong's interview:
"hello lee jae dong" *mic problems* lol "hi, i am lecaf's lee jae dong" "you are the top seed. please say "last season i was the last one picked, so i didn't get to say much so it was a bit disappointing. but i think this time it will be fun" "during the end of 2007 you were picked as the strongest zerg. people have been saying rather than going for an easy way up, you're planning on choosing the hardest opponents" "well at the moment i am thinking about picking both "easy" and difficult players *(random talk about sea...)* "after winning the OSL do you notice any difference from before and after from people?" "now when people hear my name they associate it with winning the OSL, so it feels good" "have you decided who you will choose? you seemed undecided a few minutes ago" "yes i have decided. because i have the 1st choice there are a lot of players that i wanted to have an opportunity to play against." "please choose your opponent" JAEDONG CHOOSES SAVIOR
If you do this for all the interviews, I will reward you with 26~ virgins.
(Numbers may vary.)
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Savior's face smiling looked like if thinking, "Everyone think Im slumping and that Im done, I am going to rape this kid... "
btw LosingID what did savior say
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CA10828 Posts
"why did you pick savior?" "i really enjoy the zvz matchup, so i chose savior. this was my "easy" choice"
"what is your reaction savior" "a while ago i asked jaedong to pick me, so i'm thankful to him. i think that i will choose the next player in the group that he wants. jaedong is the best zerg at the moment and so i've been needing some sort of spark to get me started again, and i think that jaedong is that. i've been watching and learning a lot from him"
(talk about making the savior/jaedong group the Group of Death, and final remarks from jaedong, talking about getting past the winner's curse, etc)
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savior probably will pick Flash to make a yaoi group. uh, young potential boy group.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol woah very humble of savior sort of, although they did plan this together haha o_O cool. jaedong and sav fighting!!
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On January 11 2008 18:50 LosingID8 wrote: "why did you pick savior?" "i really enjoy the zvz matchup, so i chose savior. this was my "easy" choice"
"what is your reaction savior" "a while ago i asked jaedong to pick me, so i'm thankful to him. i think that i will choose the next player in the group that he wants. jaedong is the best zerg at the moment and so i've been needing some sort of spark to get me started again, and i think that jaedong is that. i've been watching and learning a lot from him"
(talk about making the savior/jaedong group the Group of Death, and final remarks from jaedong, talking about getting past the winner's curse, etc)
Savior admitted Jaedong's superiority? Ballsy, I like it.
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They better put Rock and Forezan in the group Then theyll make an upset and rape Jaedong and Savior
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Stork and Bisu should save Sea for Savior ^^
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On January 11 2008 18:51 anch wrote: savior probably will pick Flash to make a yaoi group.
Oooh, that would be nice. But there are no three way "games" unfortunately. That would be something to see (semi-masturbating already).
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LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^
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On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^
seconded
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On January 11 2008 18:55 azndsh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^ seconded thirded
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CA10828 Posts
ok stork's turn
"when you see the VOD from OGN about the finals since it has been played 7 or 8 times now, how does it feel when you see it?" "i don't really watch TV so..." "are you going to try and prove your PvZ or stick with your strongest MU, PvT?" "i haven't really thought of it in that way, but i've been practicing PvZ a lot" (random stuff about wanting to get 1st place because he accomplished everything except for a 1st place in an individual league) "i decided to choose an opponent that would give me an easy route to the Ro16" "is it because you have a winning record vs that person, or that race?" "i have a lot of wins vs that opponent, so i've decided to choose that person." "is it a protoss opponent?" "yes, it is" *camera focuses on THEROCK* (lol) "please choose your opponent" STORK CHOOSES ROCK
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On January 11 2008 18:56 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:55 azndsh wrote:On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^ seconded thirded
Fourth'd
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On January 11 2008 18:55 azndsh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^ seconded
Fifth-'d.
Seriously, someone get this guy a special translator Icon..
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who is this wemade fox guy talking ?
(AARRGGG STOP BUFFERINAGGINAOERGIN$GWA$_)
(edit nevermind, just never actually seen this dude before)
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WTF ROCK Stork will get smited by Karma
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On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^
me too<3
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to reduce transaction, I will stop translate. better translator was come. ^^;
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On January 11 2008 18:57 Disarray wrote: who is this wemade fox guy talking ?
(AARRGGG STOP BUFFERINAGGINAOERGIN$GWA$_)
Thats the wemade caveman Rock
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China3334 Posts
oh, i forgot it's Mr.Birdtoss' turn LOL good choice
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Thanks for the translations you guys, it really makes this more interesting knowing what each person says and whatnot.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
poor rcok i love rock more than stork
ROCK FIGHTING
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Can i watch Ongamenet on GOMPlayer? It doesnt seem to be in the Live section.. If so what channel?
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ppl are watching on daum, i am on yaoyuan.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:59 Amnesty wrote: Can i watch Ongamenet on GOMPlayer? It doesnt seem to be in the Live section.. If so what channel? no gom players only for proleague and MSL stuff.
errrrrr watch ongamenet on yaoyuan.com/live.php
download tvants run in IE onlmy
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daum = OGN OSL GOM = MBC MSL
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what is the beast rock saying!!!
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in before close.
(No but seriously, You can't watch OGN on Gomplayer. You need Daum Pot player. There are many (thirty?..) threads on this.)
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wats rock sayin? sounds like shit talking lawl edit: thanks mucho for translation!
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Please pick July please Bisu, don't pull a Stork!
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When rock wins / advance without stork, can we have a head rip of stork?
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On January 11 2008 19:02 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: what is the beast rock saying!!!
To make it easier on the translator, he usually translates the entire thing at once, so be patient
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
ROFL why is rock like fucking talking so fucking fast hes like ufcking rapping or something and he looks pissed or is acting pissed hahaha
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CA10828 Posts
interview with therock
"first off, congrats to stork for the 2nd place, (other random talking), but i think that stork is looking at me easily because of our past record vs each other. i think our record vs each other is 1-3 or 1-4 or so." (i didn't really catch what rock said very well but it was basically like "enough talk, lets show it through our play") stork: "i was kind of expecting rock to say something funny, but he didn't so i'm sort of disappointed" rock: "honestly, stork's image is something that i'm not really into. i think he's actually kind of boring. last time i over-reacted, and i think i probably looked like a crazy person or something, so this time i've decided to tone it down a bit" (random talk) stork: i've actually wanted to be close friends with stork rock: if i beat stork then i'll agree to get close with him. if i lose, i don't think i'll talk with him until i beat him. honestly stork is a very skillful player and he wins a lot, but i don't think his gameplay is very interesting. stork: rock and i are from the same region, and even went to the same school together, so i figured that we would be able to get close easily...
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Rock is the first progamer I've seen who doesn't act like a true nerd in front of the cameras. When he wins, however, he acts like a five year old...
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On January 11 2008 19:03 Nintu wrote:To make it easier on the translator, he usually translates the entire thing at once, so be patient 
thanks.
btw, in before close what? :S
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On January 11 2008 19:03 LosingID8 wrote: stork: rock and i are from the same region, and even went to the same school together, so i figured that we would be able to get close easily... proposing of gay to beastly Rock.
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CA10828 Posts
be patient please, i don't want to type out a million posts for just one interview. it makes it easier (and much more coherent) for people reading the thread the next day if they are all consolidated into one post.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
rofl nice hahah same school too O_O rock's probably older rigth.
THANK YOU LOSINGID8!!!!!!!!! <3
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On January 11 2008 19:05 LosingID8 wrote: be patient please, i don't want to type out a million posts for just one interview. it makes it easier (and much more coherent) for people reading the thread the next day if they are all consolidated into one post.
you do it however the hell you want, leave consolidation up to other people. it will be done!
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Thank you LosingID8 That was one gay convo Its like Stork wants to get raped or something
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On January 11 2008 19:04 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 19:03 Nintu wrote:On January 11 2008 19:02 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: what is the beast rock saying!!! To make it easier on the translator, he usually translates the entire thing at once, so be patient  thanks. btw, in before close what? :S
It was a joke, but also directed at the guy who asked the question about watching OGN on gomplayer... It's kinda like posting "first" on the 5th page of a thread.. I guess it was a joke that just didn't land.
Thank you, Losing!
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Hungary11297 Posts
So, so far we have:
+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong and Savior alliance is so bold! Stork picking Rock is as nerdy as Stork gets, as it seems. Bisu should choose Yellow for revenge or some challenge.
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CA10828 Posts
interview with bisu
bisu: i think that with each starleague i'm getting better step by step. first time was Ro16, thenwas Ro8, last time was semis, hopefully this time will be higher. ogn: some quesiton that i missed bisu: (kind of awkward to translate, but he was going to say that he finds PvZ easy, but then he knows that he lost 0-2 to zergs the other day so he changed it to past tense "i found pvz easy") but i have confidence in both PvP and PvT as well. ogn: people are saying that you should have won a starleague by now bisu: i think that i am not very lucky in OGN ogn: people are saying that your "face" has been going down lately, what do you have to say about that? bisu: due to my mistakes i lost 0-2 the other day... either way i am not going to be picking a zerg this time around. ogn: so do you know who you're going to choose? bisu: honestly i am still a bit undecided *after a bit of deliberation* BISU CHOOSES XELLOS
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xellos looking like one smug motherfucker
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bisu picked xellos! WTF WHY ARE THE PLAYERS I WANT TO SEE MAKE IT FAR PICKING EACHOTHER WTF
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Bisu asking for a PvT ass beating.
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Hungary11297 Posts
Bisu picking Xellos has lots of style, he is picking a hard but doable matchup and continues the opposition from MSL.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
OMG BISU PICKING BISU lol GOGOGOO XELLOS U BEAT THAT TOSS
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lol xellos looks like he wants to shoot bisu right now or something
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CA10828 Posts
little interview with xellos
xellos "its been a while since i've been here in starleague, but from the very beginning i've been picked by a very difficult opponent, so it feels good i guess" ogn "are you wondering as to why bisu picked you? xellos "in another league, he beat me and ended up going to the finals, so i think that's why he chose me" ogn "bisu are you confident in the match versus xellos?" bisu "i've always been confident when going against someone. its just that sometimes i don't have much luck on tv. i'll start this starleague with momentum and use it to carry me to the finals"
*edit* i missed A LOT of stuff in this interview... they talked much more but oh well lol
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commentator exagerrate that bisu dropped Xellos's name tag while selection.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
yea xellos looks so fucking smug WTF loll badass
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China3334 Posts
Bisu chose Xellos, so they will enjoy the loudest scream from fangirls due to the opening someone mention early this thread. not bad
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what the shit , YellOw on TV.
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CA10828 Posts
On January 11 2008 18:57 Nintu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 18:55 azndsh wrote:On January 11 2008 18:53 Disarray wrote: LosingID8 i love you for these, please keep them up ^^ seconded Fifth-'d. Seriously, someone get this guy a special translator Icon.. nah lots of other koreans translate other than me. live2win, infinty21, and many many more
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CA10828 Posts
On January 11 2008 19:19 anch wrote: what the shit , YellOw on TV. yellow is going to be the next guest progamer on the program "i love star" where they interview the progamer as they are playing vs some bnet user.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
HEY anyone know what the HONG JIN HO REAL YELLOOWW thing was about.?>? i only know that the show was called I LOVE STAR lol
oh ok thanks losing
thanks to passenger too now
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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LosinID8 you are the fucking man! 
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On January 11 2008 19:20 LosingID8 wrote:yellow is going to be the next guest progamer on the program "i love star" where they interview the progamer as they are playing vs some bnet user.
Dude I think YelloW could easily lose to any decent Korean Terran player on US WEST xD
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On January 11 2008 19:20 LosingID8 wrote:yellow is going to be the next guest progamer on the program "i love star" where they interview the progamer as they are playing vs some bnet user.
Wait,thats bad right? Im afraid a random pubbie will rape him..
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ack, back to the show again, if anyone see that YellOw commerical take a screenshot. I think it was 9o clock on 1/12.
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CA10828 Posts
official introduction of the two new maps, look at this thread for details in what they are talking about.
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did Jaedong walk in front of the cameras ? haha
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51471 Posts
LR IT IS YOUR TIME TO FACE UP AND PLAY HONG JIN HO
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CA10828 Posts
GOOD CLARIFICATION POINT ABOUT THE FOREST MAP
ALTHOUGH THE FOREST WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS ON RANGED UNITS, IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY AFFECT ON THE ABILITY TO VIEW THE UNITS (ie it won't be bad for spectators)
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shit someone on daum get screencaps of new maps
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51471 Posts
are we all agreed the korean map name will be referred on TL as Devil's Forest?
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oh wow, the metal things in the middle of troy are actually raised O_o
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 11 2008 19:24 LonelyMargarita wrote: shit someone on daum get screencaps of new maps http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65007
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wtf, much looks.... decrepid.
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Much Do they starve you in a food company?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 19:26 samachking wrote: Much Do they starve you in a food company?
rfol yeah wtf look at his sunken face -.-
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On January 11 2008 19:28 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 19:26 samachking wrote: Much Do they starve you in a food company? rfol yeah wtf look at his sunken face -.- drugs motherfuckers! lol
p.s. Why do I dislike Stork so much? is it his fucking nerdy ass face? or is it his ugly as Samsung Jacket?
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On January 11 2008 19:29 InfesTeD]i[ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 19:28 alffla wrote:On January 11 2008 19:26 samachking wrote: Much Do they starve you in a food company? rfol yeah wtf look at his sunken face -.- drugs motherfuckers! lol
haha seriously, he looks like he just got done running the streets for a few hrs.
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+1 count for non nerds. now: Rock and Much. Much is skull and skin, talking in weak voice.
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does the left commentator EVER TALK ?
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On January 11 2008 19:31 anch wrote: +1 count for non nerds. now: Rock and Much. Much is skull and skin, talking in weak voice. this made me lol
On January 11 2008 19:31 Disarray wrote: does the left commentator EVER TALK ? fo reals man
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he did, I guess he heard you man
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On January 11 2008 19:31 Disarray wrote: does the left commentator EVER TALK ?
The commentator on the left is a joke, when he talks noone listens or cares, and he barely ever talks
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Protoss must have this thing making jokes about each other, while Jaedong and SaviOr praise each other.
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Fuck man they talk a lot of crap T.T
I m falling asleep. Is this gonna take like 3 more hours?
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jaedong put backho in much's group
stork puts frozean in next
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who is Soh Jun Su? edit: k solved.
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Hungary11297 Posts
Is Jaedong trying to be merciful or something?
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losing interest in watching this without LosingID8's updates. =((((
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I have a feeling theyll put rumble and cuteangel in Much's group too
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 19:36 anch wrote: who is Soh Jun Su? edit: k solved.
LOL what?
u mean backho? he's Son Chan Woong
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51471 Posts
why the hell do the seeds always send out their teammates in group d
be fucking creative or something, like putting the twins in it.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 19:38 GTR-2-Go wrote: why the hell do the seeds always send out their teammates in group d
be fucking creative or something, like putting the twins in it.
lol realyl?? i've never noticed haha ~_~ cool
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Much smiles 3 times. In last time, he said "I have vito"
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I cant believe I understood July's name when Bisu said it :D!!!! makes me feel weird lol
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imagine the twins, savior, jaedong in the same group wtF!!!!
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yeah i was just imagining that lol zvz madness
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the terran player that stork chose was frozean?
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thats tough, giving him a group with 1 of each race in it. hard to practice a group like that. exact setup as anytimes msl group the other night
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Hungary11297 Posts
That group would be like an internal fight of the swarm for dominance. Funstuff :D
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On January 11 2008 19:42 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: imagine the twins, savior, jaedong in the same group wtF!!!! except the twin will have extra chomosomes to pick each other (other than no choice)
I was hoping July be in a zerg group of death.
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CA10828 Posts
interview with much
ogn: you are the 4th seed, please say a word of introduction much: in the past i didn't have an intro video, but this time i do as a seed so it's pretty nice. ogn: you have the veto option, but i'm sure you must have an opinion of who you want to be in group D much: actually after i attained the 4th seed, i went to talk to the 1-3 seeds and tried to get them to pick easy players for me. for lee jaedong i couldn't even find him anywhere. i'm close with stork, and he has a weak heart so i trust him to put in an easy opponent. and i got bisu to promise me as well. ogn: so jaedong, are you going to give him an easy opponent? jaedong: i'm going to do whatever benefits me the most. ogn: you never know in the future when your positions might be reversed, it might be good to put in some good will between you two. jaedong: that's true... i might help him out (LOL much just said something about him being old. old-toss ftw! and now he's guilt-tripping them into helping him out lol) ogn: much is looking at stork and bisu, but stork and bisu are looking straight forward avoiding his eyes stork: much asked me to put in a "weak terran" over bnet the day after he got the 4th seed. and since i promised him i will keep my word. ogn: what do you think about this bisu? bisu: i wanted to do whatever would give me the best group, but i think our interests are sort of conflicting ogn: to bisu: are you close with muchat all? bisu: actually we aren't very close. we never talk, just greet each other. but one day he came up to me and asked me to give me an easy opponent. ogn: oh so you don't even know each other well and he asked you for a favor? (lots of laughter) much: well i want to be close with him, but because of the age gap its sort of difficult ogn: you keep looking at the nameboard much: well i don't really think that there is anyone left that is that huge of a problem for me
SELECTION OF PLAYERS FROM GROUP D JAEDONG CHOOSES: BACKHO. reasoning: on jaedong's team, much probably won't think he's too difficult either. much "thank you" (lol) STORK CHOOSES: FROZEAN. ogn: so your teammate is that "weak terran?" (lol) BISU CHOOSES: JULY. ogn: are you pleased with this choice much? much: well since i have the veto option.... (laughter). well this is the first time that the 4th seed has this option, so if i don't use it i think the sponsors won't be very happy. bisu: well i think that it isn't too bad for him, are you not pleased? much: i guess i thank you for giving me a former champion... bisu: i think that if july and much played each other it would be a very good match. much: i think backho and frozean probably aren't feeling very good right now because we're looking down upon them, but thats not what i really mean. (bs? lol)
insight gained from this interview: TL's joke about old-man toss is actually true lol
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
ROFL I LOVE MUCH OLD TOSS ahahahahahaha
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Hungary11297 Posts
So can he veto one away from his group?
Small overview on proceedings:
+ Show Spoiler +
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Haha... There was an advertisement for the OGN vs. CJ match. The OGN clips were of players doing ceremonies and high fives and what have you, and the CJ clips were of them staring blankly at the screen and each other. CJ is just hopeless at hamming it up for the camera. I hope CJ rips OGN apart.
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well im gonna grab a couple of hours of sleep now. Thx alot for your effort Losing ID
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<3 <3 <3 LosingID8 <3 <3 <3
my interested is kept, i will continue watching.
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Hungary11297 Posts
Savior picking Sea would be an interesting feat for a true group of death.
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CA10828 Posts
ok well
i think i'm going to head off to bed
my parents will kill me if i don't get up in the morning lol
sorry to those who were counting on me to stay up for the entire thing, but i have a feeling that i'll go on for about another hour T_T
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Thanks losing, really makes it more interesting to watch if you understand what they are saying, i better start taking korean lessons next month when i have the time =/
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Thanks for keeping us up to date as long as you did LosingID8, it was much appreciated!
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okay, Sea is still part of the young boy age.
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lol yep. wonder where flash is gonna go :S
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Can some1 explain me whats OSC is? so why is much seeded?
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What did savior say that made everyone go oh o.o!!! Just like a minute ago
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savior replied commentator, I want to "replace" my winner badge in 2008. and I will play as a freshmen.(i cannot translate this technic lingo)
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Rock is laughing and joking, girls are wow'ing. whats his secret??!
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On January 11 2008 19:59 Passenger wrote: savior replied commentator, I want to "replace" my winner badge in 2008. and I will play as a freshmen.(i cannot translate this technic lingo)
oh ok thanx, and what the hell is rock saying thats making everyone laughXD
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i dink rock picked rumble edit: yeah, Rumble to Group B
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Hungary11297 Posts
Ok, so once more: Sea to group of death, Rumble to group of unfulfilled protoss love?
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xellos please pick yellow, and if no one picks luxary then they are going to be in teh same group.
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rock said. this place is so gloomy. and I am only one to make bright atmosphere.
and he said to korean SC fans(dcinside sc gallery) about what they calling him.
he pick rumble. commentators said about Julys place to go.(he would be not in Group D) and rock embrasssed because he overlooked something.(i called JULY??)
but july said "I would be not go there"
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frick going to sleep, keeping the prediction and surprise last 4 spot for waking up. add:nvm, getting close to ending anyway.
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oh rofl, xellos can pick twice?? nvm, he messed up.
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lol did they mix the twins up?
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On January 11 2008 20:09 Aesop wrote: Ok, so once more: Sea to group of death, Rumble to group of unfulfilled protoss love? Yeap.
Group A: Sea Group B: Rumble Group C: Luxury+Yellow (twins)
edit: ah k
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Xellos said "It been a long time to come back here." and talking about OGN's some program. and he pick twins in his group.(because of race rule)
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Thanks for the translations Passenger!
And there is a race rule now?
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On January 11 2008 19:56 Gonozal wrote:Can some1 explain me whats OSC is? so why is much seeded?  OSC is a tournament held by ogn to determine the 4th seed of the OSL. much is seeded because he won OSC
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On January 11 2008 19:54 anch wrote: okay, Sea is still part of the young boy age.
And I've heard he chokes in individual leauges.
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Best is chosen. commentator kept talking about Protoss.
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Sea said, "it's a shame that i was not picked. and i saw OGN PD was dissapointed so much"(laughing)
some talking about ZvZ match
commentator said, "Terran is cheater race but why only 4 in this season?" sea replied, "others did not played well" (booing)
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BeSt to Group A meaning Flash to Group B
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
shit T_T best is screwed =[
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what a boo 4th selection for death group.
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rumble said, "this is my first season, but this group is too hard for me. I will do my best"
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Hungary11297 Posts
Can anyone explain to me why it was forced that the twins go into the same group (i.e. "race rule")? I imagine that they do not want three zergs in group 1 and therefore forbid choosing another one, but apart from that?
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every group just want to have variety of 3 races probably
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seems all groups have all races so maybe all races have to be in each group... just guessing tho >.< i know nothing about this -_-
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Hungary11297 Posts
Final result:
+ Show Spoiler +
If three race variety is enforced, the last three picks would have been obligatory, as we had:
ZZT PPZ PTZ
and one T,P,Z to give away. So the P had to go to group 1, T had to go to group 2 and the zerg remained for group 3.
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Flash is background character the whole time, what the shits. Hes been here twice, let teh young man speak.
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THere needs to be at least one of each race in each group. Since A was ZZT -> A has to pick toss Since B was PPZ -> B has pick Terran
So group C gets the left over zergs. Xellos was just saving time. They could have already filled in the other groups.
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commentator ; YellOw[ArnC] and Luxury was in same Group. he said, I believe July could change this situation. commentator ; But if Much would not vito, this would not be occured.
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flash said "I'm in good condition recently. and TvP was good, too. and I think I would be won against stork once again." and talking about seed.
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Hungary11297 Posts
Well, I could imagine something like this:
Race balance rule is only valid during last three picks to enforce - if possible - making groups with all three races. So Xellos, having two zergs, one p and one t to choose from could still have chosen anyone.
Xellos chooses a T (Flash) -> Best automatically goes to group 1, but group 2, not able to pick a terran, would have had the choice between the twins. Xellos chooses a P (Best) -> Group one has the choice between twins, group 2 gets Flash, group 3 gets leftover. Xellos chooses a Z (w/e) -> Best to group 1, Flash to group 2, leftover zerg to group 3.
So the only pick which enforced the remaining picks was getting a zerg.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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ROCK FTW!!!!! OOGA BOOGA!!!
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talk to Luxury; talking about how to seperate YellOw[ArnC] and Luxury.
Luxury also said, "I dont want to play OME(Oh! my Eyes!) game more in this season."
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This is last Decision. Much would vito to ban one player or not?
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This will be my best OSL! There will be 3 of my favourite players:
1) BackHo 2) Bisu 3) Best
Looking forward to the games!!!!
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so prediction :
group A : jaedong + sea ,OMG at this group (savior got a good shot also) group B : stork + flash (but maybe rock if katrina is played...) group C : group of DEATH, my bet is bisu + yarnc group D : all the mediocre player are here, much + july
this OSL is different because we have 2 group of death : group A and group C
and 2 group of mediore player : group B is ok group D is mediocre
so there will be great match but great player wont pass the group stage and we will have some newb in quarter finals
edit : i would be really happy if best step up his game
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Much vito. and kick July to another Group.
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July goes to Group C. YellOw[ArnC] goes to Group D. and all Group was determined.
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awww no twin uber battle but Group C looks like some good games :D
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YES only 1 protoss ! Sea will kill them all!!!
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United States7488 Posts
I'll never get to see the true mirror match
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow very strong players in every group overall the 'weakest' would be B and D but still lol
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
hands up for passenger for translating! :D
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On January 11 2008 21:02 semioldguy wrote:I'll never get to see the true mirror match 
maybe they'll make it to the elimination rounds. *prays*
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On January 11 2008 21:08 alffla wrote: hands up for passenger for translating! :D yea thanks lots! :D
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China3334 Posts
Thanks Passenger for translation and the pic! Bisu and July didn't play in MSL, now they have new battle in OSL.
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On January 11 2008 21:08 alffla wrote: hands up for passenger for translating! :D
I could not translate all story due to my bad english. ^^;
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Group A: Jaedong (Seed) sAviOr Sea BeSt
Although Sea is great player, I have a feeling that he still has to prove his tvz.This group is the perfect opportunity for him. Nevertheless I put him above savior in this group. My guess is Jaedong and Sea.
Group B: Stork (Seed) Rock Rumble Flash
Pretty obvious, isnt it? Stork and the winner of flash-rumble.
Group C: Bisu (Seed) XellOs Luxury July
I am afraid good ol` July doenst stand a chance here. He may take a game from Luxory, but I am afraid he`ll have very hard time against bisu and xellos.
Group D: Much (Seed) BackHo FrOzean YellOw[ArnC]
Yellow + much
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 11 2008 21:13 Passenger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 21:08 alffla wrote: hands up for passenger for translating! :D I could not translate all story due to my bad english. ^^;
it was really great anyway~ ㄳ without you we'd just be a bunch of clueless people listening to korean lol
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On January 11 2008 21:16 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 21:13 Passenger wrote:On January 11 2008 21:08 alffla wrote: hands up for passenger for translating! :D I could not translate all story due to my bad english. ^^; it was really great anyway~ ㄳ without you we'd just be a bunch of clueless people listening to korean lol Yeah, thanks ever so much Passenger. SC-scene is nothing without the drama and until all TL.net speaks Korean, we need some help in understanding the soap opera that the selections are.
Thanks again
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On January 11 2008 22:04 2BearqLoza wrote: when is OSL starting?
First game Jaedong vs Savior is on January 16th.
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Group A is -___-;;
Group C should be interesting too.
Much and Stork will dominate the other 2.
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Gogo Group A, Savior you can do it.
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Go Loyal Loader Jaedong!
And nice to hear From Autumn to Ashes again, but I think they've used that song before in another Starleague.
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On January 11 2008 23:03 Pervert wrote:First game Jaedong vs Savior is on January 16th.
Cool, that`s in 5 days... Tnx
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Damnit july had an easy group and much had to fuck it up. Oh well he still stands a very good chance vs bisu/xellos/luxury anyway. Go xellos/july !
Poor sea though, finally gets into the leagues and he lands into the most impossible group ever. :D (He's not gonna beat savior or jaedong, I can't see that happening.)
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United States6657 Posts
On January 11 2008 23:51 2BearqLoza wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2008 23:03 Pervert wrote:On January 11 2008 22:04 2BearqLoza wrote: when is OSL starting? First game Jaedong vs Savior is on January 16th. Cool, that`s in 5 days... Tnx what's even cooler is it's on a Wednesday. And this season OSL is going back to the Wed/Friday schedule.
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Canada9720 Posts
gotta watch group a games, gonna be some good shit
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Jaedong+Sea Stork+Flash Bisu+July Much+Yarnc
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i hate jaedong vs savior. thats like tearing a zerg's dream apart
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Braavos36375 Posts
Jaedong beats Bisu.
"I have nothing more to learn from you."
Jaedong picks Savior.
THE CIRCLE IS COMPLETE
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Thanks for the translations, LosingID8 and Passenger!
On January 11 2008 19:05 LosingID8 wrote: be patient please, i don't want to type out a million posts for just one interview. it makes it easier (and much more coherent) for people reading the thread the next day if they are all consolidated into one post. Yep, thanks.
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I hope savior gets out of group A, just so i can believe he still has some fight left in him. Same goes for bisu.
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Old man toss for this OSL
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Canada6683 Posts
oi... I hope Xellos can make it out of his group. With lux, slumping bisu and kind-of in shape july, he just might. (one can hope)
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group A is seriously lol.
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Is being seriously lol even possible? You know just from a literal standpoint.
Storks group should be really easy for him.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
group A is AWESOME
obviously i'm cheering for Sea but it breaks my heart that his victory will have to come at the cost of jaedong or savior 
edit: and yeah Sea has the worst luck in draws. This is basically the hardest group imaginable for him, the only thing that could make it harder would be replacing best with stork. and there's a chance Sea will have to play GoRush in MSL round of 16 for a THIRD time
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Hoping for:
+ Show Spoiler +Group A: Savior and Sea
Group B: Stork and Flash
Group C: Bisu and Xellos
Group D: Much and Yarnc
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Groups A and C both look pretty tough. It sort of depends whether Savior and Bisu show up or not though.
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Braavos36375 Posts
On January 12 2008 06:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:group A is AWESOME obviously i'm cheering for Sea but it breaks my heart that his victory will have to come at the cost of jaedong or savior  edit: and yeah Sea has the worst luck in draws. This is basically the hardest group imaginable for him, the only thing that could make it harder would be replacing best with stork. and there's a chance Sea will have to play GoRush in MSL round of 16 for a THIRD time Cmon Steve, lighten up. You've been making a lot of posts about the imba maps toward T, how Sea is unlucky, etc. Savior had a Midas/Light/Chojja group in Shinhan3, and that didn't stop him from going through Midas, Much, Iris and Nada, almost the hardest road he could possibly do (if you replaced Much with Casy). The map pool for that OSL wasn't great for him either.
I'd be more scared of Yarnc or Luxury than Savior, who's ZvT has been inconsistent. I think Jaedong being in his group is also a positive, because that means he probably won't have to face him until the finals.
Fuck GoRush and vZ groups. It doesn't matter. Champions will find a way through it all. Just relax and let the kid do his thing. If Sea is worthy, he'll find a way.
A Jaedong-Sea finals would be absolutely ridiculous, second only in hype to a Jaedong-Bisu one. Sit back and enjoy the riiiiiiiiiide.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
yarnc and luxury aren't in his group and you're out of your mind if you think Demon's Forest doesn't look really hard for TvZ
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Valhalla18444 Posts
also what the hell does savior's OSL run have to do with anything? do you really have to quote every post I make about Sea to tell me its not how I think it is?
sometimes people like to talk about their favourite players
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On January 12 2008 08:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: sometimes people like to talk about their favourite players
On that note, and as a sAviOr fan to the death: Group A is broken. God damnit.
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Here is what I'd like to see happen.
+ Show Spoiler +Group A - Jaedong and Savior
Group B - Stork and Flash
Group C - XellOs and July
Group D - Much and Yarnc
I don't want Bisu to get out of the group stages, but then again, it would be nice - just so Jaedong can crush him again. T_T A Savior - Bisu grudge match would be nice too, but I really want XellOs and July in the Ro8. Groups B and D are kinda boring for me, except for Flash.
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Wow @ groups A and C.
B and D seem really bad.
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As long as Jaedong and July advance, I'm happy.
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"Jaedong puts Savior into Group A" O.O Hard core.
"Also Jaedong was the last player to be put into a group in the last OSL." -semioldguy Wow... Hard core and also hilarious.
My hopes and expectations are about the same...
Jae/Sea (I think Savior will only beat Best in the group) Stork/Flash Group C I honestly have no clue who will come out of this. Anything could happen. But I'm hoping Xellos/July. Much and I don't care who else, though the other will probably be Yarnc
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I predict:
+ Show Spoiler +Group A: Jaedong (Seed) Sea
Group B: Stork (Seed) Flash
Group C: Bisu (Seed) Luxury
Group D: Much (Seed) YellOw[ArnC]
I hope:
+ Show Spoiler +Group A: sAviOr Sea
Group B: Rock Flash
Group C: Bisu (Seed) XellOs
Group D: Much (Seed) YellOw[ArnC]
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i think its the first time we have more p and z than terrans isnt?
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really sucks that sea wont make it out of his group
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Hoping for...
Jaedong Sea
Stork Flash
Bisu Xellos
Much Yarnc
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i think sea can take down savior + best
dont think he cant ake out jaedong tho
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With these groups, Bisu should AT LEAST make it to the Ro8
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well if sea beats jaedong he's gonna win the osl easily. jaedong's the epitome of sea's tvz weakness.
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hoping for
jaedong savior
rock flash
July Xellos
Yarnc Much.
Voting for:
Jaedong Savior
Stork Flash
Bisu Xellos
Yarnc Much.
Although Group A, B, and C are all really up there. especially with the new maps.
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finally jaedong shot on our maestro  interesting
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Well I believe Jaedong has it all to win.
Because Savior just isn't what he used to be long time ago. Thus automatically Bisu doensn't look that strong at PVZ as we used to believe. I mean many have beaten Savior, Bisu has just done it more times, but most of the credits we give to Bisu as for being n1 is for having defeated Savior. But we've seen that defeating savior is not defeating the maestro anymore.. sad but true imo
So neither Savior nor Bisu are as strong as we (I) thought...
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Braavos36375 Posts
On January 12 2008 08:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yarnc and luxury aren't in his group and you're out of your mind if you think Demon's Forest doesn't look really hard for TvZ you said it was the hardest group possible, so i was saying it's actually better to play Savior than some of the other Z's who are more in shape. right now, despite Savior's mini resurgence in his odt group, he's a big underdog to a T like Sea. sure DF looks bad but we'll never know for sure until he's played on it, and even then he only needs to win one or two games on it (if any) to get through.
On January 12 2008 08:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: also what the hell does savior's OSL run have to do with anything? do you really have to quote every post I make about Sea to tell me its not how I think it is?
sometimes people like to talk about their favourite players savior's OSL run has to do with it because he faced a similarly difficult road vs. hard players on non-favorable maps. it can be done, and i was just trying to say that Sea is capable of doing it and there's hope there.
a lot of your comments lately about Sea have been complaints or gloomy statements about how he's unlucky or whatever. i'm just saying is to stop worrying and enjoy the ride more. the kid is really good and i think he will go very deep in this OSL.
personally, savior sucking right now is so painful to watch, i wish i enjoyed his dominant period more rather than sitting on the edge of my seat worrying and hoping very hard that he didn't lose.
and i'm not really being contentious with you, maybe you misread my tone. all i'm saying is enjoy Sea's good play while it last--less worry more happy that he's in this OSL.
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On January 12 2008 03:05 Hot_Bid wrote: Jaedong beats Bisu.
"I have nothing more to learn from you."
Jaedong picks Savior.
THE CIRCLE IS COMPLETE
Hahaha truth, gg.
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