EPT[ASL22] Ro24 Group A - Page 9
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11834 Posts
But Legend of the Fall is carried on by Shuttle-God | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:03 gravity wrote: more like legend on the fallen, am I right I trust snow and mini more. hell I'd trust best over bisu. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines681 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5964 Posts
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: I trust snow and mini more. hell I'd trust best over bisu. Yeah Mini vs 3 Zergs should be a fun group, and Snow is always a chance. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1325 Posts
On August 12 2026 01:21 TMNT wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/6WU5OV9.png) Saw Bisu losing to Rush coming from a mile away with Octagon being the map. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13529 Posts
Just a dull map. | ||
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gravity
Australia2330 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:05 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Saw Bisu losing to Rush coming from a mile away with Octagon being the map. Matchup-specific maps when | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:06 RowdierBob wrote: I norm loathe a balance whinge but that map really is terrible for PvT. You’ve basically got one ridge/defensive point to stop a Terran push and if you don’t it’s over. Once Bisu lost his third the first time it was over. Just a dull map. I'm ok with it as long as we can be constructive or at least have some nuance about something that everyone agrees is clearly not working here. and even then a protoss player did advance 1st in the group. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13529 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13529 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/btbej.jpg) | ||
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TMNT
3382 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:00 gravity wrote: Not like I know much but I feel like it would have been better to try to go for a big mid-map flank when Rush moved out rather than go for drops The double Shuttle drop is timed when Rush is taking his 3rd, which in general is strategically correct, because at that time Terran is moving his army out there to protect the 3rd. For a while, that double drop timing managed to deal major damage to Terrans and they struggled with it. But like they always do, Terran players have adapted to it - just like how they had adapted to defend recall to the point that Arbiter build has now become extinct at the top level. And you can see in the game how Rush defended that so well with just mines, sim city a one siege tank. The way this game opens, Rush wins the build order lottery: forward Gate pressure is met with cross spawn, then 3 Fac timing is not met with either DT or fast Reaver. So he gets ahead and from that point onward, all Terran has to do is playing a solid macro game. From Protoss point of view, if you're not Snow, there's not many options to come back. That double drop is essentially the only way for a player of Bisu level (you can't contest Terran's army head-on, you can't delay the Terran's march with Reavers like Snow, your only option is a hit-and-hope drop). The mid map flank wouldn't work because as you saw in the game, Zealot leg hasn't even finished by the time the Tanks are parking on that ridge, and the supply diffenrential isn't enough anyway for Protoss to win a big fight. | ||
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prosatan
Romania9399 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10569 Posts
On August 17 2026 19:38 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: Poll: bisu: bucket or no bucket? bucket (14) no bucket (3) 17 total votes Your vote: bisu: bucket or no bucket? GET THE BUCKET OUT | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1325 Posts
we dont need that. we actually have perfectly balanced maps available based on the data. Apocalypse. Neo Dark Origin. Retro. Radeon. Eclipse. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3567 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:27 RowdierBob wrote: I know i called it but still sad. | ||
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Simplistik
2173 Posts
Shuttle's build against Rush was entertaining, but the rest was just a waste of everyone's time. Hmm with stage fright, then getting Bisu'd. Bisu looked like he hadn't played a high level PvT in years. Rush mainly looked bemused by the bad stuff that was happening around him. Well done, Shuttle! | ||
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Simplistik
2173 Posts
On August 17 2026 21:58 TMNT wrote: The double Shuttle drop is timed when Rush is taking his 3rd, which in general is strategically correct, because at that time Terran is moving his army out there to protect the 3rd. For a while, that double drop timing managed to deal major damage to Terrans and they struggled with it. But like they always do, Terran players have adapted to it - just like how they had adapted to defend recall to the point that Arbiter build has now become extinct at the top level. And you can see in the game how Rush defended that so well with just mines, sim city a one siege tank. The way this game opens, Rush wins the build order lottery: forward Gate pressure is met with cross spawn, then 3 Fac timing is not met with either DT or fast Reaver. So he gets ahead and from that point onward, all Terran has to do is playing a solid macro game. From Protoss point of view, if you're not Snow, there's not many options to come back. That double drop is essentially the only way for a player of Bisu level (you can't contest Terran's army head-on, you can't delay the Terran's march with Reavers like Snow, your only option is a hit-and-hope drop). The mid map flank wouldn't work because as you saw in the game, Zealot leg hasn't even finished by the time the Tanks are parking on that ridge, and the supply diffenrential isn't enough anyway for Protoss to win a big fight. I feel like there was at least a chance to do a little damage at the Terran third with that drop. As it was, losing the drop like that was practically the same as GG. | ||
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