EPTThen he grouped with the 2nd best Protoss and a A/S tier Zerg in the bo1s round. Absolutely greattt.
(And actually is the best(worst) P he could’ve group with, because Snow is seeded already ugh)
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vndestiny
Singapore3456 Posts
Then he grouped with the 2nd best Protoss and a A/S tier Zerg in the bo1s round. Absolutely greattt. (And actually is the best(worst) P he could’ve group with, because Snow is seeded already ugh) | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3456 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines690 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + A: Rain, Sharp B: Soulkey, Ssak C: Hero, Larva D: Light, Royal E: Flash, Rush F: Best, Jaedong | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1237 Posts
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Poegim
Poland285 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3481 Posts
On March 08 2026 21:40 Poegim wrote: I think protoss is a bit too strong race in this game. Lol. But really outside of mini, no other P in qualifiers missing out is that shocking. Stork is very inconsistent, shuttle is shuttle. You can't argue the likes of ruin or horang2 (as much as i loved him during kespa) deserve to be there. If anything i m more surprised about the Z | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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Maks
Ukraine187 Posts
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Rainalcar
Croatia471 Posts
On March 08 2026 23:53 Maks wrote: So let me get this straight: Protoss haven’t won a major tournament in five years and the organizers’ brilliant solution is to give us the most Terran-favored map pool in history? Really? Our community's indifference to the egregious self-evident racial imbalance, visible in results of top tier tournaments since forever, is truly striking. Science moved aside for doctrine a long time ago, and we are as such left only with meaningless unfounded slogans such as "best balanced RTS of all time" and similar. Without pressure from the community, status quo endures of course. Worst of it all is, I feel many would sooner see BW popularity plummet as P fans give up, than even consider more radical solutions, at least in mapmaking. | ||
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bulbousbrain
13 Posts
gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows | ||
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bulbousbrain
13 Posts
Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z. I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z. | ||
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Zografa
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rotta
5616 Posts
On March 09 2026 00:54 bulbousbrain wrote: gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows CoolGG | ||
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Miragee
8662 Posts
On March 09 2026 00:54 bulbousbrain wrote: gonna keep trying until someone answers, guess no one knows Links to both, English and Korean, brackets were posted in this very thread. Maybe just click on them? | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4165 Posts
On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote: the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. free didn't play well enough to win. mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. Protoss race hasn't had depth in forever. I mean YSC made it in and he's always disappointing. Stork has been meh for years. Rain actually competed and pretty easily made it in. Leta played well to beat Action. Action has been trending down for years anyway. Mong and sSak also played well. Don't think it's a map problem; P has been dominating KCM this season. Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z. I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z. Agree | ||
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TMNT
3171 Posts
Fantasy has been playing the ladder and regularly uploading Terran guides on his youtube channel. Pretty sure he would qualify if he decided to play ASL. Took him 6 months from zero to win that Saudi cup. ASL qualifier is a much lower bar, so probably would take a few weeks of training. Imagine also, if Last unretired (and injury permitted). No race has such a rich pool of top tier players. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8802 Posts
On March 09 2026 01:45 Zografa wrote: i just want flash, jd and bisu in ro4, one last time :D One last time... | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1237 Posts
On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote: the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. free didn't play well enough to win. mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. Protoss race hasn't had depth in forever. I mean YSC made it in and he's always disappointing. Stork has been meh for years. Rain actually competed and pretty easily made it in. Leta played well to beat Action. Action has been trending down for years anyway. Mong and sSak also played well. Don't think it's a map problem; P has been dominating KCM this season. Best, Bisu, Snow, Rain, massive gap, mini, big gap, Stork, Tyson, Shuttle, YSC, Motive, free are the only decently consistent Protosses out there, and outside of the top 4 (and Rain doesn't regularly compete, so really just top 3), none of those other Ps are appreciably better than lower first class Ts like Mind/Scan/Mong/JyJ/sSak or lower first class Zs like JD/Action/Clam/Larva/Sacsri/Zelot/BTS. Z has more first class players (soma, soulkey, zero, hero) than P, w/ soma and soulkey legit contenders for best players in the world. No P is a contender for best player in the world (sorry, Snow and Best). T, meanwhile, has Flash/Light/arguably Rush and Royal (dark horses, they are playing quite well) as contenders for best player in the world. Protoss players just aren't as good as T and Z. I think ZvP is heavily favored for Z but it's also just the fact that Protoss players aren't as skilled as T or Z. Reading this it feels like you don't follow spons, proleague, kcm, or eloboard.... tell me if I am wrong but I disagree with numerous takes here, but some takes seem completely detached from the current state of BW pro play. Rain: He's not in "great shape' at all. He's not been very active whatsoever and actually currently has a kind of mediocre performance going by his standards. He's a worse performer at this exact point in time in everything compared to Mini. Rain's doing so poorly he's dropped all the way down to rank 30 on Eloboard. That's the lowest he has EVER been. Mini: Mini actually looked good in everything, sSak just got the better of him. It happens. Mini's been hovering in the top 8 for pretty much all of the past few years on eloboard. sSak's very active and just in great shape. sSak being in great shape and beating Mini =/= Mini being in terrible washed up shape. That claim just doesn't hold any truth. It's made-up and not reflected in ANY of Mini's results. Jaedong: ranking Jaedong in his current 2026 form as anything other than a tier 1 zerg is outrageous. He's been the number #1 performing zerg in 2026 so far. HerO: Hero's been performing his worst in years since around november 2025 and hasn't regained his form yet. We'll have to wait and see how he holds and if he gets his form back together. But going by everything he's currently a tier 2 zerg, not a tier 1 zerg. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7897 Posts
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doktordingerdonger
100 Posts
On March 09 2026 01:04 bulbousbrain wrote: the groups are fine to me, a Protoss fan. Saying you are protoss fan doesn't mean much if you can always pretend lmao mini has been trending down for years and years; he's just not that great anymore. mini is the highest rated protoss lately ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/UBmPBzi.jpeg) I swear every time we have another tesagi evidence, terrans come out and gaslight everyone that it must be talent difference or some shit. Terran enjoys a 55% winrate for decades already while z and p deal with 47%. We had 'geniuses' like Sea and Nada who stayed high level for years despite not playing much. Hell I wish the mech switch meta back because at least there was less tesagi denial back in those days when TvZ was 60%. I would respect you terrans more if you did not try to gaslight everyone else that it must be a talent difference. In reality you all deep down know that tesagi is real but you are too bad to exploit it. This is why we had the biggest known ragers in the game playing terran are complete narcissist with idra, artosis or recently gypsy, because they also know that deep down they main a 55% winrate race but still suck ass, so they have to lash out because it goes against their own weird narrative of always being the victim. This is why yall have to spread the idea that terran must just be harder to play lmao, so yall call Nada and Sea geniuses instead of lazy progamers that just exploit tesagi. Funny how yall are playing the strongest race but have the weakest character. Please just git gud (in exploiting tesagi) and shut up. | ||
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