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gravity
Australia1988 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:00 Gorsameth wrote: So much army spend by Snow to try and get the high ground at 3 o clock and when he gets it nothing actually changes in the game... Maybe he should have included a probe and built cannons there. He had minerals to spare. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13297 Posts
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Simplistik
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Duckvillelol
Australia1253 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
All he needed to get an good bust with reavers on his front door around 15 min mark. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13297 Posts
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Rainalcar
Croatia423 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:03 SkelA wrote: Snow was so lost this game. He had such an great start and soma played right into his hand but just he outplayed himself. All he needed to get an good bust with reavers on his front door around 15 min mark. Right, where Z has a backstab base to engulf him, be serious | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway763 Posts
HOWEVER! I think Snow actually will win. Yeah, he lost this map, but he showed how good his multitasking and army controll is. He just need to guess some build orders and he's winning this finale easy. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:06 Rainalcar wrote: Right, where Z has a backstab base to engulf him, be serious Snow had more bases max army the correct tech. Absolutely no chance for zerg to do anything at that timing. | ||
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Kraekkling
594 Posts
we've seen several Protoss do very well with sair/reaver/carrier on this map during the recent weeks in daily pl snow himself won games like this | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia423 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:10 SkelA wrote: Snow had more bases max army the correct tech. Absolutely no chance for zerg to do anything at that timing. Soma would have stalled him with sunkens and then you would see a hydra lurker pincer. Z economy is too strong for timing attacks on this map. | ||
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Rainalcar
Croatia423 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:12 Kraekkling wrote: lol why tf are ppl complaining about this being a Zerg map we've seen several Protoss do very well with sair/reaver/carrier on this map during the recent weeks in daily pl snow himself won games like this Actually we have seen very seldom such games. And in ASL it was just ugly. | ||
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Kraekkling
594 Posts
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Rainalcar
Croatia423 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:15 Kraekkling wrote: like, why go for gateway units and only attack at 24 minutes? Because he was delayed by going for shuttle island. | ||
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TMNT
3115 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:03 RowdierBob wrote: Zergs have a 60% win rate on roaring currents. Brutal 60% win rate doesn't tell the whole story for ZvP on this map. In online games, Zerg lost mostly due to (a) in early days when strategies hadn't been developed very well, and (b) agressive play (to get a quick win) in early/mid game that sets them back massively. In ASL, Zergs all chose to play defensively which is the correct strategy for Zerg on this map, and they win 100% of the games. | ||
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Kraekkling
594 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:16 TMNT wrote: 60% win rate doesn't tell the whole story for ZvP on this map. In online games, Zerg lost mostly due to (a) in early days when strategies hadn't been developed very well, and (b) agressive play (to get a quick win) in early/mid game that sets them back massively. In ASL, Zergs all chose to play defensively which is the correct strategy for Zerg on this map, and they win 100% of the games. the map is at 47.2% WR for Protoss on eloboard... | ||
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TMNT
3115 Posts
On October 26 2025 18:12 Kraekkling wrote: lol why tf are ppl complaining about this being a Zerg map we've seen several Protoss do very well with sair/reaver/carrier on this map during the recent weeks in daily pl snow himself won games like this We actually didn't. I'm keeping track of all the PvZ games on this map recently. Every time Protoss won the game would require a blunder from Zerg in the early/mid game by being too aggressive (like trying to bust the natural) or too greedy (4 Hatch before Pool). If Zergs play defensively, they win like 90% of the times. In ASL where the stake is high, they chose that strategy and won 100% so far. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8515 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13297 Posts
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