I know there's something about Persona that makes it tough TvZ, I just can't quite put my finger on it.
I don't know, maybe the open middle or something.

iloveHieu

United States1919 Posts

December 07 2007 00:41 GMT

#22

may the better player win and hope for a great series!

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

December 07 2007 00:44 GMT

#23

cant wait to see what up comes up with on persona

rushz0rz

Canada5300 Posts

December 07 2007 00:55 GMT

#24

LETS GO UPMAGIC!

Titusmaster6

United States5937 Posts

December 07 2007 00:59 GMT

#25

Jae Dong! You can make the finals, DO IT.

IaniAniaN

Canada555 Posts

December 07 2007 01:23 GMT

#26

On December 07 2007 09:23 Jyvblamo wrote:

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I know there's something about Persona that makes it tough TvZ, I just can't quite put my finger on it.
I don't know, maybe the open middle or something.

Do lurkers attacks hit units under swarm? They are classified as ranged right?
EDIT: Nvm, the splash damage. Oh well, at least UP got decently far.

TheTyranid

Russian Federation4333 Posts

December 07 2007 01:42 GMT

#27

On December 07 2007 09:14 Shauni wrote:
I devote my heart to UpMagiC... but I sincerely have difficulties imagining him as victorious, especially on those maps. It really IS his worst matchup, if he hasn't magically improved in the past few weeks.

But fuck it, imma skip school and cheer for the true magician, the neo emperor, the man with the flame who knows how to make Starcraft into ART.
I'm just worried

UpMagic is NOT the neo Emperor. You can't be neo Emperor with your TvP being better than your TvZ! Period.

Pervect

1280 Posts

December 07 2007 01:56 GMT

#28

Hoping for UpMagiC to pull through, and eventually a Bisu vs. UpMagiC final, but any of the possible combinations for the finals should be fun to watch.

dragoonkf

Singapore1256 Posts

December 07 2007 02:08 GMT

#29

We all know jaedong is gonna kill upmagic, Jaedong FtW

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

December 07 2007 02:29 GMT

#30

On December 07 2007 09:23 Jyvblamo wrote:
I know there's something about Persona that makes it tough TvZ, I just can't quite put my finger on it.
I don't know, maybe the open middle or something.

I think it's got a lot to do with the fact that zerg can use the dark swarm to delay pushes quite a bit. The early advantage of M>Z with micro is negated, for instance, with a few zerglings placed in the terran dark swarm to force the push to be delayed until firebats, a few lurkers placed in some dark swarms delay a push until tanks, etc. When used right, the neutral dark swarm kind of ends up being an extra help until the zerg player can start manually dropping their own dark swarms.

Just a guess, anyways.

EDIT:
Savior kinda abused that fact against like, CuteAngel or whatnot, forced Cute to mass up firebats and just tore him apart.

WhatisProtoss

Korea (South)2325 Posts

December 07 2007 02:29 GMT

#31

On December 07 2007 09:14 Shauni wrote:
I devote my heart to UpMagiC... but I sincerely have difficulties imagining him as victorious, especially on those maps. It really IS his worst matchup, if he hasn't magically improved in the past few weeks.

But fuck it, imma skip school and cheer for the true magician, the neo Emperor, the man with the flame who knows how to make Starcraft into ART.
I'm just worried

Neo Emperor = (T)

Casy

Try

United States1293 Posts

December 07 2007 02:59 GMT

#32

Jaedong will, unfortunately, tear Upmagic apart. He is very good against innovation, as he has already shown several times against Light and other Terran players, and the map pool other than Katrina obviously favors him. Upmagic's only chance may be that Jaedong has recently lost 3 games (Gasp!) quite mundanely in ZvT (losing to the early MM+Bat push, for example, and his ZvT looked very human and vincible in his past few games), breaking his 12371203784732497234 win streak in that category.

Elwood Blues

United States261 Posts

December 07 2007 03:14 GMT

#33

If I remember right, Upmagic said in an interview that he was a school friend with Jaedong or something like that. As much as I want to see Upmagic win this, Jaedong's odds are probably a lot better. Wouldn't be the first time I've said that before a match only to be wildly disproven though, so an entertaining match going to the 5th is all I can ask for~

Gokey

United States2722 Posts

December 07 2007 03:23 GMT

#34

i like up and i love jaedong...

hoping for a 5-match set! good games = everybody wins! =)

OctoPuSs

Canada5279 Posts

December 07 2007 03:26 GMT

#35

Too bad we could've seen (T)

Hwasin vs

Jaedong tonight ;\.

My vote is on (T)

UpMagiC for tonight simply because (Z)

Jaedong as failed to impress me on the new maps and always comes up with the same approach, which I'm sure (T)

UpMagiC will counter.

triangle

United States3803 Posts

December 07 2007 03:34 GMT

#36

I don't think of Jaedong always using the same approach. I've always enjoyed watching his art ZvT.

It'll be interesting to see what Up comes "up" with to stop Jaedong.

KizZBG

u gotta skate8152 Posts

December 07 2007 03:36 GMT

#37

On December 07 2007 12:14 Elwood Blues wrote:
If I remember right, Upmagic said in an interview that he was a school friend with Jaedong or something like that. As much as I want to see Upmagic win this, Jaedong's odds are probably a lot better. Wouldn't be the first time I've said that before a match only to be wildly disproven though, so an entertaining match going to the 5th is all I can ask for~

I think this is the article to it.

On November 25 2007 04:17 Live2Win wrote:
Well apparently there's "history" between JaeDong and UpMagic, them becoming progamers around the same time, having gone to the same highschool, and were the top 2 gamers in their highschool, often competing against each other. They also rose to fame around the same time.