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[ASL17] Ro24 Group A
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BLinD-RawR
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Doso
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Ikirouta
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RowdierBob
Australia13476 Posts
Can def see Bisu losing, especially given it's bo1. If the final game is him vs Zelot could be some cheese and a bucket full of Bisu fan tears. | ||
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prosatan
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4276 Posts
Good to finally have ASL back again. Hopefully we can get 1 more season a year after GSL get's cancelled. | ||
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felleN
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FriedrichNietzsche
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
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Shoutout to Nyoken my man+your partners! | ||
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
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 e: and back :D | ||
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Sorusaba
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
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On February 26 2024 19:15 Sorusaba wrote: I keep getting the 'stream has ended' message after about 20-30 seconds of watching and need to refresh the page. Tried different browsers. This hasn't happened before, what's going on?! :s +1 Unwatchable, doesnt matter if i choose 1080, 720 or lower I bet it is AfreecaTV Edit: Giving up, will watch on YT, when StarCast have uploaded it | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
On February 26 2024 19:15 Sorusaba wrote: I keep getting the 'stream has ended' message after about 20-30 seconds of watching and need to refresh the page. Tried different browsers. This hasn't happened before, what's going on?! :s Same here. Welp guess it's another season of YouTube Vods for me. Edit: Never mind seems to work now. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12052 Posts
On February 26 2024 19:15 Sorusaba wrote: I keep getting the 'stream has ended' message after about 20-30 seconds of watching and need to refresh the page. Tried different browsers. This hasn't happened before, what's going on?! :s I keep getting this as well - I think I'll just give up for now. | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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he knew the drop was fake | ||
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Sorusaba
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Fahdearth
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BLinD-RawR
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Terrorbladder
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BLinD-RawR
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
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Fahdearth
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Doso
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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Fahdearth
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prosatan
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Qikz
United Kingdom12052 Posts
At least I saw my boy Bisu win. I don't really care about anyone else in the group now haha | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
On February 26 2024 20:12 Qikz wrote: Damn Afreeca is sucking today - it goes through periods of working then breaks again. At least I saw my boy Bisu win. I don't really care about anyone else in the group now haha Try lowering the quality. For me it started working on 360p, now stable at 720p. | ||
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prosatan
Romania9193 Posts
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prosatan
Romania9193 Posts
he looks so happy ! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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killer1nz
New Zealand164 Posts
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Fahdearth
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Fahdearth
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Terrorbladder
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felleN
Australia100 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Peeano
Netherlands5822 Posts
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CeJo1
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Peeano
Netherlands5822 Posts
On February 26 2024 21:12 CeJo1 wrote: Who is the caster with Nyoken? He did a nice job! Gypsy. He's arguably the current best foreigner Terran after Mihu. | ||
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CeJo1
32 Posts
On February 26 2024 21:16 Peeano wrote: Gypsy. He's arguably the current best foreigner Terran after Mihu. Thank you dude | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13476 Posts
Kinda meh games. Zelot a bit overhyped - didn't really show much. Sea's build in the last game was pretty dumb. Mass expand off 3 fact tanks into BC. He's kinda hoping Light just sits back and does nothing? I get he had to cut some corners to be a chance against light but damn, that was the cuttiest of cut corners he tried. | ||
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TMNT
3296 Posts
On February 26 2024 21:45 RowdierBob wrote: I like how Sea perfectly scouted what Bisu was doing and he still couldn't do anything to stop it. Great execution from Bisu. Kinda meh games. Zelot a bit overhyped - didn't really show much. Sea's build in the last game was pretty dumb. Mass expand off 3 fact tanks into BC. He's kinda hoping Light just sits back and does nothing? I get he had to cut some corners to be a chance against light but damn, that was the cuttiest of cut corners he tried. He probably didn't expect to play Light at all, nor did he has any practice in TvT. I'm more surprised he didn't try to BBS or something like that. At least this is a decent performance compared to the clown show he put on last season. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On February 26 2024 21:51 TMNT wrote: He probably didn't expect to play Light at all, nor did he has any practice in TvT. I'm more surprised he didn't try to BBS or something like that. At least this is a decent performance compared to the clown show he put on last season. man sea's last season's performance was truly the entire circus encapsulated into one player | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1289 Posts
On February 26 2024 21:51 TMNT wrote: He probably didn't expect to play Light at all, nor did he has any practice in TvT. I'm more surprised he didn't try to BBS or something like that. At least this is a decent performance compared to the clown show he put on last season. Sea didn't even play over the past week, maybe a game here and there. He was busy with his team doing events and variety content. He literally did not play for a week. It showed because he seemed way off. His strategy against Light was kind of a "trying somewhat extremely outlandish and pray to the gods above it works". It did not. checked. He barely played any starcraft matches since qualifiers. He did female proleague and university events, played league of legends, and played about 14 games total. | ||
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TMNT
3296 Posts
On February 26 2024 23:14 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Sea didn't even play over the past week, maybe a game here and there. He was busy with his team doing events and variety content. He literally did not play for a week. It showed because he seemed way off. His strategy against Light was kind of a "trying somewhat extremely outlandish and pray to the gods above it works". It did not. checked. He barely played any starcraft matches since qualifiers. He did female proleague and university events, played league of legends, and played about 14 games total. To be fair, all three players today more or less had the same kind of approach vs Light. Can't blame them. Who would want a straight up standard macro game vs the guy who is on like 85% win rate in Major Proleague this month (that's some Flash type of shit if not even scarier). Sea strategy ironically is the most macro oriented one. | ||
FlaShFTW
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1289 Posts
On February 27 2024 01:25 TMNT wrote: To be fair, all three players today more or less had the same kind of approach vs Light. Can't blame them. Who would want a straight up standard macro game vs the guy who is on like 85% win rate in Major Proleague this month (that's some Flash type of shit if not even scarier). Sea strategy ironically is the most macro oriented one. Light is the best standard style player since Flash left, and has really good surprise build orders/mindgames as hidden secret strategies. So yeah it is not unexpected they tried to force him into non standard situations. But Sea literally didn't prepare because he wasnt even expecting he had a chance. which is fine. his focus is on his team. | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic955 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4276 Posts
On February 27 2024 03:46 Destroyer wrote: Keeping it BO1 is an unfortunate decision.. Expected players got to next round, but watching this definitely left some bitter taste.. agreed | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4276 Posts
I'm almost 100% sure the Group B was C and C was B.. wtf? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
dude is a clown riding a false high from his clown games and female streamer attention. just look at his face during the competition. cant even take himself seriously is ASL something to take seriously? | ||
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FriedrichNietzsche
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he qualified What else really is there to it? | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10551 Posts
On February 27 2024 07:03 dr0pship wrote: If I was someone who took the game seriously and played 1000 hours a month, I'd be pretty frustrated that Sea gets a spot in Ro24, which he squanders like an entitled child, and during which he proceeds to make a mockery of himself and professional starcraft competition. dude is a clown riding a false high from his clown games and female streamer attention. just look at his face during the competition. cant even take himself seriously is ASL something to take seriously? While I think it would've been nice to have some other players qualify over Sea (Queen), he played in the open qualifier and made it. I think Sea making it is an inherent issue with the current open qualifiers because there are definitely some players who get an easier road than others with so many qualification groups. An idea could be to make groups bigger with 2 people advancing and a double elimination format. Therefore, first place in any group will have to go up against a solid opponent, and a high quality player who might get knocked out early can still make a comeback to advance. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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TMNT
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Note that Sea played macro in all 3 games and Zelot was actually the one who cheesed in both of his games so I'm not sure why Sea is criticized for his body language. Personally I find his expressions funny tbh. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1289 Posts
On February 27 2024 09:44 TMNT wrote: It was Sea Horang2 and Guemchi (not Calm) which of course feels arranged. However Ddasik - a top amateur player whose level is similar to the likes of Zelot and Scan - was also in that qualifier group, so those 1000-hour-per-month players can only blame themselves for not beating those part time BW players full time variety streamers. And Zelot, who made it to the finals, lost fair and square to Sea as well. Note that Sea played macro in all 3 games and Zelot was actually the one who cheesed in both of his games so I'm not sure why Sea is criticized for his body language. Personally I find his expressions funny tbh. Sea only deserves criticism for his lack of practice. But even his lack of practice is understandable. He's legitimately running a business. I expected Horang2 to qualify over Sea because Horang2 practiced like 5 times as much as Sea did. They only have themselves to blame for losing to Sea. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4276 Posts
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
On February 27 2024 07:24 FriedrichNietzsche wrote: what a weird take he qualified What else really is there to it? not criticizing him qualifying criticizing him qualifying and then not preparing and clowning around | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10551 Posts
On February 27 2024 11:10 dr0pship wrote: not criticizing him qualifying criticizing him qualifying and then not preparing and clowning around While I agree that he should take it more seriously, if he qualifies on very few hours of preparation, what does that say about the rest of the competition? Would they really have done better? | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey820 Posts
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Piste
6183 Posts
On February 27 2024 11:10 dr0pship wrote: not criticizing him qualifying criticizing him qualifying and then not preparing and clowning around Clowning around? Come on he wasn't clowning around.. He is still better player than most, no matter how much he practices. | ||
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outscar
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FlaShFTW
United States10551 Posts
On February 28 2024 05:16 outscar wrote: Sea was smiling when he beat those guardians of ZeLoT, like he won a game vs. SK or top zergs - from being best proleague player of all time, top 3 terran of SOSPA, post KeSPA era, an ASL finalist to this, praying that he didn't lose to an amateur who doesn't know anything than all-in. How fallen... At this point he needs to get away from BW and stop making clown out of himself. Calm, who is most popular streamer showed thousand time better performance last ASL and practiced like madman meanwhile Sea is just fucking around. He's stealing Horang2 ASL spot two times right now. Horang2 shouldve been better then. idk what else to tell you. Again, this is an issue with the current qualification method rather than Sea making it over others. If FlaSh was laughing his way all the way to the ro4 then losing, would we be attacking him? No, because he's still one of the best in the world and he can win and produce good games. | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
On February 26 2024 19:37 Terrorbladder wrote: Does Zelot ever get bored of doing allins Probably not, since he continues to do them. All day every day. | ||
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
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dr0pship
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moktira
Ireland1548 Posts
On February 27 2024 14:46 HOLYBATS wrote: No one expected Bisu cheese for both games.Bisu did not even micro reaver properly vs Sea.Anyway expected results. After watching the pros reaction to Sea's performance, it seems Bisu's play vs Sea wasn't cheese, it was an aggressive build that if it gets scouted early puts you way behind which is what happened, so the counter is to proxy Robo but if the Terrain sees that you're in more trouble, Pusan and Rain explain it well in that video. Despite the subject of the video, I actually learned loads in it! | ||
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