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On November 04 2007 23:59 Ace wrote: Ok all you Bisu fanboys are making me sick.
Bisu did not manhandle Hwasin. Hwasin best TvP of all time? ROFL Bisu was art the last to games. Also it was at THE time not of all time. Third, there is a REASON old school gamers can't compete at this time. If someone is the best now, they are likely to be the best of all time.
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On November 04 2007 23:59 Ace wrote: Ok all you Bisu fanboys are making me sick.
Bisu did not manhandle Hwasin. Hwasin best TvP of all time? ROFL Umm yeah? Why do you doubt Hwasin? He pushed over Stork several times, and he did beat several high ranked protoss players with ease. Seriously Hwasin is so underrated, when I say manhandled, I am talking about how Bisu beat Hwasin on Zodiac, watch that game carefully again
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On November 04 2007 23:59 Ace wrote: Ok all you Bisu fanboys are making me sick.
Bisu did not manhandle Hwasin. Hwasin best TvP of all time? ROFL
or you are just jealous because Terran has no chance?
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No doubt Hwasin is underrated. I think after people screaming about it months ago since his MSL series against Savior, other are finally paying attention.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time.
And Bisu isn't some PvT god himself. Seriously stop being rabid fanboys. No one is denying Bisu is the favorite to beat Xellos, but he isn't as great as you guys claim. Shit, he hasn't even won OSL yet and isn't as dominant as Savior was a year ago in this same position.
Stop sucking his dick.
/condom
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Bisu is dominant though... He's qualified for both leagues right now, and is a favourite to win one of them. (Probably both if he beats Shudder).
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On November 04 2007 23:14 NonY[rC] wrote: i don't know what mistakes people saw in xellos's play that would make them think he's not good enough to beat bisu. perhaps ra didn't push him as hard as bisu will, but we don't know xellos's threshold. if xellos can keep his composure and keep solid builds coming out for each game, bisu is going to have a tough series on his hands.
I like NonY. He is the voice of reason in my head that keeps me sane admist a sea of insanity.
On November 05 2007 00:43 Thegreatbeyond wrote: He [Hwasin] pushed over Stork several times,
When? You mean the single time he beat Stork at WCG qualies?
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bisu will never win an osl
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On November 05 2007 03:16 Kuja900 wrote: bisu will never win an osl
a sAviOr fan like myself can only hope
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On November 05 2007 01:51 Ace wrote: But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time.
Ummmm? Hwasin had such an advantage on Zodiac and Bisu won it with flawless unit positioning and micro. That is way more Bisu's win than Hwasin's loss.
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On November 05 2007 01:51 Ace wrote:But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time.
Hwasin lost the second game, not so sure about the third one. Hwasin's probably easily a top 5 TvPer at this point...
Letsee... Iris, Sea, Nada (not at the present time obviously), Oov? After that I'm drawing a blank. I guess you could argue Midas. Maybe Xellos.
Anyways, point being Hwasin is quite easily one of the top 3 or so TvPers at the present time. He isn't exactly chump change.
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On November 03 2007 17:19 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i fucking love both of these players but oh my god please xellos win
please xellos win leagues again i love you so much Merry Christmas.
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On November 05 2007 03:46 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2007 01:51 Ace wrote:But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time. Hwasin lost the second game, not so sure about the third one. Hwasin's probably easily a top 5 TvPer at this point... Letsee... Iris, Sea, Nada (not at the present time obviously), Oov? After that I'm drawing a blank. I guess you could argue Midas. Maybe Xellos. Anyways, point being Hwasin is quite easily one of the top 3 or so TvPers at the present time. He isn't exactly chump change.
Of all time I'd list it as:
Oov Midas Nada Sea The Marine (I remember him having good TvT/TvP)
Xellos, Iris and Hwasin are down here somewhere.
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On November 05 2007 01:51 Ace wrote: No doubt Hwasin is underrated. I think after people screaming about it months ago since his MSL series against Savior, other are finally paying attention.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time.
And Bisu isn't some PvT god himself. Seriously stop being rabid fanboys. No one is denying Bisu is the favorite to beat Xellos, but he isn't as great as you guys claim. Shit, he hasn't even won OSL yet and isn't as dominant as Savior was a year ago in this same position.
Stop sucking his dick.
/condom
what the hell? I'm tired of comments like this, where you always claim that bisu just isn't that great, that the next guy down the road will crush him. First Hwasin, then Kwanro, now Xellos.
If we say he's great, it's sucking his dick? Why do I never hear these comments when Savior fans says he's great? It's always Bisu that gets down-played. Seriously, all I ever read on these threads are bisu haters that mock bisu fans.
When Savior lost to PJ, the overall response was sympathy for him. I'm pretty sure if Bisu loses to Xellos, it'll just fuel the flames for more Bisu mockery. Whatever, you can keep your double standards.
I'm starting to feel like I'm defending him more than I cheer for him nowadays.
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ROFL Bisu is not dominant as Savior was in his prime?? yes he is! He just won 2 MSL, classified again for the 2 starleagues, is in the final 4 of one of them and a win of the top 8 of the other. Besides he won several special events, including crushing savior in some of them
Bisu is as dominant as Savior was, specially because we can´t name someone who is a favorite to beat him, he just isn´t dominant AS LONG as Savior
and yes, I am a Bisu fanboy
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On November 05 2007 06:54 Sadness wrote: ROFL Bisu is not dominant as Savior was in his prime?? yes he is! He just won 2 MSL, classified again for the 2 starleagues, is in the final 4 of one of them and a win of the top 8 of the other. Besides he won several special events, including crushing savior in some of them
Bisu is as dominant as Savior was, specially because we can´t name someone who is a favorite to beat him, he just isn´t dominant AS LONG as Savior
and yes, I am a Bisu fanboy
Um, I still wouldn't say that Bisu is as dominant as Savior was back in Shinhan OSL 3. Savior wrecked everyone's ass on bad ZvT maps, and he was hot as ever in the MSL. Bisu is one loss to Shudder away from being denied the OSL again. It's too early to say.
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Xellos is up for a terrible rape
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On November 05 2007 06:54 Sadness wrote: ROFL Bisu is not dominant as Savior was in his prime?? yes he is! He just won 2 MSL, classified again for the 2 starleagues, is in the final 4 of one of them and a win of the top 8 of the other. Besides he won several special events, including crushing savior in some of them
Bisu is as dominant as Savior was, specially because we can´t name someone who is a favorite to beat him, he just isn´t dominant AS LONG as Savior
and yes, I am a Bisu fanboy
So far, for every OSL he qualified, he was eliminated in the group stage. you can't call someone dominant without an OSL title. OSL>>MSL
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On November 05 2007 04:41 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2007 03:46 zer0das wrote:On November 05 2007 01:51 Ace wrote:But let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Hwasin lost those games far more than Bisu winning them. Hwasin is not some god of TvP as another poster claimed he is, in fact he isn't even close to top 5 TvPs of all time. Hwasin lost the second game, not so sure about the third one. Hwasin's probably easily a top 5 TvPer at this point... Letsee... Iris, Sea, Nada (not at the present time obviously), Oov? After that I'm drawing a blank. I guess you could argue Midas. Maybe Xellos. Anyways, point being Hwasin is quite easily one of the top 3 or so TvPers at the present time. He isn't exactly chump change. Of all time I'd list it as: Oov Midas Nada Sea The Marine (I remember him having good TvT/TvP) Xellos, Iris and Hwasin are down here somewhere.
wasn't TheMarine famous for his sexy TVZ skill?
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On November 05 2007 08:21 hhkx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2007 06:54 Sadness wrote: ROFL Bisu is not dominant as Savior was in his prime?? yes he is! He just won 2 MSL, classified again for the 2 starleagues, is in the final 4 of one of them and a win of the top 8 of the other. Besides he won several special events, including crushing savior in some of them
Bisu is as dominant as Savior was, specially because we can´t name someone who is a favorite to beat him, he just isn´t dominant AS LONG as Savior
and yes, I am a Bisu fanboy So far, for every OSL he qualified, he was eliminated in the group stage. you can't call someone dominant without an OSL title. OSL>>MSL
so you´re saying Savior was only more dominant than Bisu for 1 week cause 1 week after that OSL title he got 3-0'ed by Bisu and didn´t reach a starleague final after that
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