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Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
September 18 2023 05:33 GMT
#2
Hero.
kodecopas
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru17 Posts
September 18 2023 07:52 GMT
#3
3:1
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Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China186 Posts
September 18 2023 08:16 GMT
#4
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Let's do this!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
September 18 2023 08:33 GMT
#5
Go herO!
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
September 18 2023 08:37 GMT
#6
I flipped a coin. Rush coin, HerO heads. It was heads. HerO will win. Turtle zerg is too damn hard to beat on some of the maps.
But honestly they are an even match and I expect a 5 game series of epic games.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
September 18 2023 08:42 GMT
#7
What a coin-flippy Ro8 this is.

Two of the maps look Zerg skewed (Origin and Invader), the others are even or we don't have enough info, except Poly (Terran favoured).

Assuming both players get one ban, that favours herO slightly. He's also had a lot more recent experience playing in stage. But, his ZvT is sometimes shaky.

Probably herO, but very low confidence.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 18 2023 09:43 GMT
#8
rush fighting~

also hero seems like the hardest opponent for mini in a potential finals, so i hope he loses.

whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-18 10:08:28
September 18 2023 10:07 GMT
#9
eonzerg finally calls out hero. he's a hydra (bust) one trick in zvp and that skill set doesn't directly transfer to tvz.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:07 GMT
#10
more brood war today!! lets fucking goooooooo
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:15 GMT
#11
from Peru Pog
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:20 GMT
#12
lol Rush forgot he already built an ebay
POGGERS
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 18 2023 10:21 GMT
#13
On September 18 2023 19:20 konadora wrote:
lol Rush forgot he already built an ebay


thankfully he cancelled it
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:29 GMT
#14
too greedy to stop lurker production...
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 10:30 GMT
#15
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

Yes (8)
 
73%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 18 2023 10:30 GMT
#16
wow crushed
TvT (semi)finals inc
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 18 2023 10:31 GMT
#17
what did i just watch
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 18 2023 10:32 GMT
#18
the timing of that dark swarm dropping was fatal for hero, just as rush sieged tanks it went down and they obliterated the lurkers which let him just stim and run in.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:36 GMT
#19
4 POOL LOL
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:38 GMT
#20
Rush got lucky with the 5 oclock spawn cus marine spawns safely inside the wall-in LOL
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:39 GMT
#21
wait Hero is still gonna play instead of gg-ing
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 18 2023 10:39 GMT
#22
caught bro lacking in 4K
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 18 2023 10:40 GMT
#23
fantasy hero gg timing?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:40 GMT
#24
ok Hero ggs the moment he saw the 2nd CC lol
POGGERS
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 18 2023 10:40 GMT
#25
lucky spawn lmao. gg
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 10:42 GMT
#26
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

No (11)
 
73%

If you have time (4)
 
27%

Yes (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 18 2023 10:42 GMT
#27
I hear the hot6 chug time bgm in my dreams.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 10:42 GMT
#28
I'd hate a sub 1 hour stream.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 10:43 GMT
#29
genuine waste of neo dark origin from hero.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 10:49 GMT
#30
On September 18 2023 19:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
genuine waste of neo dark origin from hero.

ikr isnt it a strong early to mid map for Zergs? 4 pool seemed kinda desperate and a last minute move, maybe out of frustration because of how he lost map 1?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:11 GMT
#31
pretty good game on neo neo requiem
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:16 GMT
#32
hero should try to get queens if he's not going to kill ccs.

infest is free.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:17 GMT
#33
bro double dmatrix and eraser this is 8d chess.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:17 GMT
#34
defensive matrix and irradiate on vessels lol haven't seen that since the days of Boxer
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:19 GMT
#35
hero is completely dried up
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:19 GMT
#36
hero doesn't have drones?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:20 GMT
#37
Eraser being a legitimate strat LOL
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:20 GMT
#38
DEFENSIVE MATRIX ON THE DRONE LMAOOOOOOOOO THE BM
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:21 GMT
#39
going ultras was such a greedy choice
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:23 GMT
#40
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

Yes (19)
 
95%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 18 2023 11:24 GMT
#41
On September 18 2023 20:17 konadora wrote:
defensive matrix and irradiate on vessels lol haven't seen that since the days of Boxer


ikr I was trying to think of the last time I actually saw someone use eraser. Modern zerg almost never let the vessel cloud get so big that it can be used.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
September 18 2023 11:25 GMT
#42
I don't feel like making polls for game 4 and 5 please enjoy the meme.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4230 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-18 14:42:46
September 18 2023 11:29 GMT
#43
(except last game)

a bad way to start the ro8
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3114 Posts
September 18 2023 11:33 GMT
#44
Told you it's Rush's turn to win this season. He's favorite vs Soulkey and JYJ, and no one from the other bracket has a chance against him.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 18 2023 11:46 GMT
#45
well tomorrow should be a bit more competitive
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RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
September 18 2023 12:18 GMT
#46
HerO was very off.... sad. Usually he is the one player you can rely on to perform above a baseline.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4230 Posts
September 18 2023 14:42 GMT
#47
On September 18 2023 20:46 konadora wrote:
well tomorrow should be a bit more competitive

hopefully!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2719 Posts
September 18 2023 15:04 GMT
#48
G1 = "I make merin" the game and G3 = "I make vessel" the game.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
September 18 2023 15:07 GMT
#49
Game 3 was fun. Overall disappointing from herO. Well played Rush.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3101 Posts
September 18 2023 17:24 GMT
#50
Rush put hero into a blender and pressed Smoothie.

Still a good series and well fought g1 and g3 by hero. Rush is just a machine. And I think hydra/lurker/defiler is the slightly better way to play atm. We didn't see that at all this series.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3426 Posts
September 18 2023 19:14 GMT
#51
Rush looked like a beast but tbh i am disappointed in thst pool 4 attempt on NDO, given the spawn but also especially given the current map stats and the way hero usually plays mid game, map would be good for his style.

I m sure he had a good reason but overall felt a bit weird
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-18 20:37:07
September 18 2023 20:36 GMT
#52
hero got bodied rush definitely the better player. Felt the game got decided when his lurker defiler drop did nothing. Almost brought it back with ling/ultra counter attacks but the dmatrix erasers too stronk on the drone line. Rush also played with an average 100apm more than hero and it showed.
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 18 2023 21:43 GMT
#53
That went even better than I expected. Hope I'm not jinxing it, but I'm looking forward to Rush in the finals. He'd deserve it.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7819 Posts
September 18 2023 23:32 GMT
#54
I was hopeful during the middle of game 3 that we'd go to the 4th set but no . Nice play from Rush. Hero seemed off...
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3101 Posts
September 18 2023 23:54 GMT
#55
On September 18 2023 20:33 TMNT wrote:
Told you it's Rush's turn to win this season. He's favorite vs Soulkey and JYJ, and no one from the other bracket has a chance against him.


haha so hyperbolic. the other side of the bracket does have a chance but i would agree it's Rush's season.

The dude looks so happy after he wins and has a literal glisten in his eye. It's destiny.
barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
51 Posts
September 19 2023 00:08 GMT
#56
I really enjoyed game 3. I thought he had a chance when the ultras hit. Vessel cloud is just too much, gg. another tvt finals?
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
September 19 2023 00:23 GMT
#57
ASL16ChampRush?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-19 00:41:33
September 19 2023 00:29 GMT
#58
I don't see Rush as a clear champ. It's not like what's left of the bracket is a walkover.

edit: I would put Action/EffOrt over him in a finals.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-19 01:34:40
September 19 2023 01:34 GMT
#59
On September 19 2023 09:29 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't see Rush as a clear champ. It's not like what's left of the bracket is a walkover.

edit: I would put Action/EffOrt over him in a finals.


I agree effOrt on a good day. I would say Mini on a good day. Action, meh. Someone needs to pull a Joaquin Phoenix from Gladiator and do a pre-match rib-stab to overcome Rush. I would also say Rush needs to be on his A-game but the dude is thirsty. He's rabid. His A-game is here to stay until he wins an ASL imo.

Agreed the bracket is not a walkover for him but if Mini shits the bed and effOrt falls to ZvZ I think Rush has it.

Time will tell!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 19 2023 01:41 GMT
#60
Rush has been pretty consistent for the past couple seasons. He’s definitely deserving of another finals.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 19 2023 01:46 GMT
#61
On September 19 2023 10:34 RogerChillingworth wrote:
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On September 19 2023 09:29 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't see Rush as a clear champ. It's not like what's left of the bracket is a walkover.

edit: I would put Action/EffOrt over him in a finals.


I agree effOrt on a good day. I would say Mini on a good day. Action, meh. Someone needs to pull a Joaquin Phoenix from Gladiator and do a pre-match rib-stab to overcome Rush. I would also say Rush needs to be on his A-game but the dude is thirsty. He's rabid. His A-game is here to stay until he wins an ASL imo.

Agreed the bracket is not a walkover for him but if Mini shits the bed and effOrt falls to ZvZ I think Rush has it.

Time will tell!

Action is unstoppable in lategame TvZ. The question is whether he shoots himself in the foot by cheesing and losing before then.

After his truly awful performance against Mini the last finals he made it to, I don't particularly want to see Rush in the finals again.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
September 19 2023 01:59 GMT
#62
On September 19 2023 10:46 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2023 10:34 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On September 19 2023 09:29 IntoTheWow wrote:
I don't see Rush as a clear champ. It's not like what's left of the bracket is a walkover.

edit: I would put Action/EffOrt over him in a finals.


I agree effOrt on a good day. I would say Mini on a good day. Action, meh. Someone needs to pull a Joaquin Phoenix from Gladiator and do a pre-match rib-stab to overcome Rush. I would also say Rush needs to be on his A-game but the dude is thirsty. He's rabid. His A-game is here to stay until he wins an ASL imo.

Agreed the bracket is not a walkover for him but if Mini shits the bed and effOrt falls to ZvZ I think Rush has it.

Time will tell!

Action is unstoppable in lategame TvZ. The question is whether he shoots himself in the foot by cheesing and losing before then.

After his truly awful performance against Mini the last finals he made it to, I don't particularly want to see Rush in the finals again.


Maps favour Action if it goes late. Also, Rush is pretty good on timming and cutting corners, but I don't see him as the guy who wins on attrition. EffOrt plays lots of mindgames as does Action, and both can keep it up on long games non-stop.

EffOrt has more finals and pressure experience as well. They still have to get out of the bottom bracket, we will see.
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Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
September 19 2023 07:52 GMT
#63
On September 18 2023 14:33 Nirli wrote:
Hero.


It is human to err.

But it is not human to have such a dumpster fire of a performance by hero.

Game 1 felt like he was afk the last 2 minutes.

Game 2 is something you can see when an F tier zerg is playing against his T friend.

Game 3 was OK. Whew.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
September 19 2023 11:07 GMT
#64
Damn that feels like Hero was having a really bad day. When you compare how he normally plays to that he made so many mistakes that I guess he just wasn't feeling it. That and Rush is genuinely good so probably made him look worse than it actually was.
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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3124 Posts
September 22 2023 00:59 GMT
#65
That last game was crazy. How many drones did those erasers kill holy shit.
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