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BLinD-RawR
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-27 17:22:17
April 27 2023 17:16 GMT
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States341 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-27 20:32:38
April 27 2023 20:27 GMT
#2
Assuming it's not a 4-0, I'm excited to see what these players will bring to a TvT on 76!

jk 76 is 6th in the lineup... idk what the odds are we see that game.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
April 27 2023 21:07 GMT
#3
On April 28 2023 05:27 Lazyer wrote:
Assuming it's not a 4-0, I'm excited to see what these players will bring to a TvT on 76!

jk 76 is 6th in the lineup... idk what the odds are we see that game.

it's 7th
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
April 27 2023 21:07 GMT
#4
Mind FIGHTING ! ! !

Hope for some awesome games
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-27 21:52:45
April 27 2023 21:45 GMT
#5
lmao, both are chickens not picking 76. I imagine you could gain a lot of respect from (your) fans picking that map 1st. Missed opportunity by JyJ imo
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 27 2023 22:53 GMT
#6
Would be nice to get to 76, although we might end up crossing the date boundary if that happens...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
April 28 2023 00:23 GMT
#7
I wanna see the distinctive styles clash and bring good games.
As well as a new trophy and big check for Mind (who wasn't even in the list of the better payed bw players for Q1 of 2023).
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2897 Posts
April 28 2023 04:38 GMT
#8
Probably won't watch because I hate TvT but I truly hope Mind wins. He's always been good and won an MSL back in the day. Love his play.

I gotta say, it feels like Terrans are winning all a lot as of late. ASL, BSL, etc. I wonder if it's just a really good meta for Terrans or the maps being played currently are heavily favoring Terrans.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States341 Posts
April 28 2023 06:54 GMT
#9
On April 28 2023 06:07 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 05:27 Lazyer wrote:
Assuming it's not a 4-0, I'm excited to see what these players will bring to a TvT on 76!

jk 76 is 6th in the lineup... idk what the odds are we see that game.

it's 7th


i'm hoping for a nail biter of a series then
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
April 28 2023 07:22 GMT
#10
Mind Fightning!!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 28 2023 07:48 GMT
#11
I wish Terran wins today
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
April 28 2023 08:47 GMT
#12
I wish there will be some unorthodox plays. Vulture,tank with max supply for both players are pretty boring.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria482 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 09:01:51
April 28 2023 09:01 GMT
#13
Hope we get the full 7 games with lots of dramatic turns. Unfortunately, the weather outside today is good so i will go out when this starts, but im sure i will tune in to some of the games when i'm back due to the nature of TvT. Let's go brood war!
music is the best thing in the world
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
April 28 2023 09:09 GMT
#14
Mind practicing before finals:
[image loading]

(from Britney's stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/khm11903/246153657 )

I don't really know who to root for. Maybe JyJ. Rather rooting for a 7 game long series.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7907 Posts
April 28 2023 09:40 GMT
#15
Let's go Mind !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
757 Posts
April 28 2023 09:48 GMT
#16
Why don't they play Remastered full screen?
Is this approach just what they're used to, or is it better in some ways - like low graphics settings in SC2 are better because there's less cluttering, no grass, etc.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
April 28 2023 09:50 GMT
#17
I think TvT on 76 starts with a Valkyrie fight opening. Would be interesting. Doubt we get to game 7 though.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 28 2023 09:52 GMT
#18
wait, mind plays 4:3 windowed original graphics? what an OG
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:09 GMT
#19
That is some enthusiastic interviewer performance!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:10 GMT
#20
On April 28 2023 18:52 whylessness wrote:
wait, mind plays 4:3 windowed original graphics? what an OG

Quite a few older BW pros decided to stick with the old graphics. I expect they tried the newer resolution, but it was too hard to switch.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 10:19 GMT
#21
The new pros can't even get up correctly from their gaming chairs, and yet they think they can handle wide screen resolution.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:24 GMT
#22
this will be the greatest finals every if every game was BBS.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:29 GMT
#23
"What's more aggressive than BBS? - 14CC"
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:31 GMT
#24
JyJ behind in the opening, so naturally he'll pull off some magical vulture engagement...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:33 GMT
#25
lmao I did the thing again, I said JyJ was going to win when I wrote the preview but LB'd mind days in advance.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 10:35 GMT
#26
On April 28 2023 19:31 Simplistik wrote:
JyJ behind in the opening, so naturally he'll pull off some magical vulture engagement...


Perfect prediction so far
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
April 28 2023 10:37 GMT
#27
On April 28 2023 13:38 G5 wrote:
I gotta say, it feels like Terrans are winning all a lot as of late.

Didn’t Terran always win a lot?

Even when I was a kit it was all about Boxer, Nada, IloveOOV. And then there was Flash.

It never mattered if Terrans were a minority in RO16 or RO8. Most trophies has regardless went to Terrans.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:38 GMT
#28
JyJ actually taking a lead here, Mind pooling wraiths.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:40 GMT
#29
wow mind, way to throw a drop
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:42 GMT
#30
JyJ with great positioning, gets a tank lead.
Also good drop defence, 2 dropships only unload 2 vultures.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:43 GMT
#31
although this attempt to expand ot the bottom right is costing jyj a lot and mind just two wraiths
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:44 GMT
#32
jyj finally taking bottom right seriously
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 10:46 GMT
#33
That drop from JyJ was horrible to watch
This could give Mind a chance to come back.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:48 GMT
#34
Are we watching a bugged replay?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:48 GMT
#35
On April 28 2023 19:46 Magic Powers wrote:
That drop from JyJ was horrible to watch
This could give Mind a chance to come back.


drop first if you wanna die first.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
April 28 2023 10:50 GMT
#36
wait, how tf is Mind up in supply and bases?
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:50 GMT
#37
Mind wrestled his way back to a lead. Although pretty tight.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 28 2023 10:51 GMT
#38
when my mcdonald's delivery arrived mind was down 40 supply... get back to my battle station with mcgriddles in hand and the supplies were exactly tied. and now mind is ahead?? how tf
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 10:52 GMT
#39
Yooo JyJ said he still believes in himself and killed three bases with a single strike
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
April 28 2023 10:52 GMT
#40
lol ggs
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:52 GMT
#41
And the lead swings back to JyJ because of two drop decisions.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:52 GMT
#42
don't worry mind is throwing it all away.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
April 28 2023 10:53 GMT
#43
Mind threw by loading his units on red/yellow hp dropships
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 10:53 GMT
#44
Comedy of errors right there. Mines really make for WTF moments.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:54 GMT
#45
its actually better for mind to clear top right and setup up fresh bases because that will mine out slower than JyJ at this point
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:54 GMT
#46
nevermind gg
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:55 GMT
#47
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 1?

Yes (6)
 
60%

No (2)
 
20%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 10:55 GMT
#48
On April 28 2023 19:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
its actually better for mind to clear top right and setup up fresh bases because that will mine out slower than JyJ at this point


Are you watching the English commentary? Asking because it's behind by almost a minute
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 10:56 GMT
#49
On April 28 2023 19:55 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 19:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
its actually better for mind to clear top right and setup up fresh bases because that will mine out slower than JyJ at this point


Are you watching the English commentary? Asking because it's behind by almost a minute


nope KR.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 11:00:41
April 28 2023 10:59 GMT
#50
Players took turns to blow their lead. Sloppy play from both, even to the point that casters suspected it was a bugged replay. Viewer count too low for a final. This is probably the most underwhelming ASL finals ever.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
757 Posts
April 28 2023 11:01 GMT
#51
It's a mirror MU, so obviously viewer count is lower than usual.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:03 GMT
#52
Maybe we should stick all Terrans into one half of the bracket and all Zerg into the other half, so that we can avoid TvT or ZvZ finals. Mmm. And then get a few more Protoss in and, it's getting rather complicated.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:04 GMT
#53
Fantasy in the audience!?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 11:08:54
April 28 2023 11:05 GMT
#54
Game 1 already proved that I didn't undersell the finals.

that being said what can any of us do, it would have been nice if any of their prior opponents didn't lose to them but they won and earned their spot and we all knew going into it both players are not the best at TvT.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:05 GMT
#55
Not huge terran fan, but I make an exception for Fantasy, because he's been good to Stork.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:06 GMT
#56
On April 28 2023 20:03 Simplistik wrote:
Maybe we should stick all Terrans into one half of the bracket and all Zerg into the other half, so that we can avoid TvT or ZvZ finals. Mmm. And then get a few more Protoss in and, it's getting rather complicated.


I wouldn't be opposed to the idea that afreeca should try to rig the Ro8 bracket.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:06 GMT
#57
I think it was a good game. If that was in a ProLeague final between SKT and KT, we'd all be hyped!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:07 GMT
#58
On April 28 2023 20:06 Simplistik wrote:
I think it was a good game. If that was in a ProLeague final between SKT and KT, we'd all be hyped!


yeah but also we wouldn't be seeing the same two people play the other 6 games though.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
April 28 2023 11:10 GMT
#59
Oh Fantasy is in the studio today. Apparently he coached JYJ for the finals:

[image loading]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:11 GMT
#60
we'll know for sure if JyJ starts losing a game and doesn't GG that he's trained by fantasy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 11:12 GMT
#61
On April 28 2023 20:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
we'll know for sure if JyJ starts losing a game and doesn't GG that he's trained by fantasy.


Ey! :D
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:13 GMT
#62
Say what you want, but there are some really excellent Barracks repair tactics...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:15 GMT
#63
Also, one of the denser mine fields I've seen...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:16 GMT
#64
Fun trivia: In the German localisation, vultures are called 'eagles'.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 11:22:04
April 28 2023 11:21 GMT
#65
Kinda supicious GG timing...
"The downfall of vulture man"
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:22 GMT
#66
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 2?

Yes (6)
 
67%

No (2)
 
22%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 11:27 GMT
#67
I think this match is delivering. The second game was action packed.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 11:28 GMT
#68
Just tuning in. The good thing about this final is that we get the best music ^^
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:29 GMT
#69
1hp vulture gets out!

I'm glad mind didn't go full skyhigh and tried to overdo with the vulture.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 11:31 GMT
#70
Wtf JyJ?! You gave Mind ur 2 tanks after all that! Bruh.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:32 GMT
#71
thats ok mind gave away one tank for free.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:33 GMT
#72
Some tense micro! Good counter attack

FantasyJyJ is good with vultures...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 11:34 GMT
#73
No worries, JyJ seems to have a backup plan for everything. Almost even game now, but factory count and tech favors Mind a bit.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 11:42 GMT
#74
Mind let JyJ expand faster. But the game is still open and Mind controls a bit more of the center.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:47 GMT
#75
The drop on 3 o'clock failed, and with it lots of dropships went down.
Mind chance to counter!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 11:49 GMT
#76
JyJ again outplaying Mind in a long strategic game. Maybe this is his advantage over Mind.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:49 GMT
#77
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 3?

Yes (6)
 
86%

No (1)
 
14%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 11:50 GMT
#78
Macro ftw
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:50 GMT
#79
look I need to go but at this rate the series will still be going by the time I get back in 2 hours.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 11:50 GMT
#80
Eventually JyJ manages a successful drop into Mind's main.
GG
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 11:52 GMT
#81
On April 28 2023 20:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I need to go but at this rate the series will still be going by the time I get back in 2 hours.

You're on poll duty! You can't leave.
FBH #1!
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
April 28 2023 11:57 GMT
#82
Drops haven't been serving Mind very well these games. Hopefully he's thinking about it a little in this break.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 11:59 GMT
#83
On April 28 2023 20:52 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 20:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
look I need to go but at this rate the series will still be going by the time I get back in 2 hours.

You're on poll duty! You can't leave.

unfortunately as boss I gotta pull rank and put this on you.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 28 2023 12:02 GMT
#84
Watching the finals in a cinema Let’s go Mind!!
[image loading]
Mine gas, build tanks.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:06 GMT
#85
Nice, maybe I should put the next one at my local cinema. Not as expensive as you would think, and I'll be alone!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:10 GMT
#86
HBR, here we go!

Forward Rax forr JyJ.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 12:12:20
April 28 2023 12:12 GMT
#87
Red red marines :>
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:14 GMT
#88
Amazing micro by Mind, kills two marines and saves all of his!
One sniped over the wall into the main by a vulture. WTF
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:16 GMT
#89
Another JyJ vulture trick. How does he do it every time?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 12:18 GMT
#90
Super action packed game! And people said they don't like TvT lol. Eat that!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:19 GMT
#91
Big counter by Mind does a lot of damage.
Wraiths for JyJ!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:21 GMT
#92
Cloaked wraiths pushed a tank into the mines.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:21 GMT
#93
Pushing the tank into the mine and then sniping it with another shot was cute.
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:24 GMT
#94
Those are some crazy fights.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:26 GMT
#95
JyJ's macro is mad. He is continuously pouncing on Mind's scvs and putting Mind's old muscles to the test by keeping it a high tempo game.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:28 GMT
#96
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 4?

Yes (9)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:28 GMT
#97
Macro ftw
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:30 GMT
#98
Valks seal the deal for JyJ. Superior eco, better multi-tasking, bigger army.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 12:33:19
April 28 2023 12:32 GMT
#99
JyJ is often a step or 2 ahead, especially macro wise. He can afford to have bad trades early to mid game and still go even, after that he just pulls ahead.
FBH #1!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 28 2023 12:33 GMT
#100
Excellent defense from Mind against that initial marine push, but JyJ looked superior in every other way
Mine gas, build tanks.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:34 GMT
#101
I hope we get to Nemesis at least...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 28 2023 12:35 GMT
#102
I want to see CC first vs BBS
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:36 GMT
#103
I thought Mind would be at least 5 years older than JyJ. Surprisingly they only differ 1-2 years.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:38 GMT
#104
420 cc. aka 14cc
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:38 GMT
#105
JyJ is feeling like additional macro advantage
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:38 GMT
#106
Half your wish has been answered.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:39 GMT
#107
14-CC into cross-map scout, to confirm the win.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
April 28 2023 12:39 GMT
#108
cross spawn CC first is the new cross spawn Nexus first
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:40 GMT
#109
Question is if we're gonna see any nerves from JyJ, now that he's soooo close.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:40 GMT
#110
Time for a secret base or something.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 12:43 GMT
#111
Mind going for a quick third, that's extremely risky. I think too risky.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
757 Posts
April 28 2023 12:44 GMT
#112
Maybe he thinks he needs this because of overall superior JyJ's macro.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 28 2023 12:44 GMT
#113
GG
hatred outlives the hateful
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:46 GMT
#114
14CC cross spawn stronk
FBH #1!
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 28 2023 12:46 GMT
#115
In this situation, Mind will win if JyJ plays with one hand
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 12:46:42
April 28 2023 12:46 GMT
#116
Turns out 100 APM difference is the difference maker in a mirror match.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 12:46 GMT
#117
On April 28 2023 21:44 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
GG


Don't jinx it! Mind is still in the game!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:47 GMT
#118
Mind still has a chance, but he will need to work hard for it.
FBH #1!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 28 2023 12:48 GMT
#119
On April 28 2023 21:46 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 21:44 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
GG


Don't jinx it! Mind is still in the game!



1-2%
hatred outlives the hateful
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:50 GMT
#120
Mind has looked dead twice so far, but is still hanging in there.
Clutch Valkyrie
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
April 28 2023 12:51 GMT
#121
ugh.. ;/
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 28 2023 12:53 GMT
#122
the only reason mind isnt GGing yet is because this is literally a ASL Grand Final

it is over..

;/ GG wp JyJ
hatred outlives the hateful
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
April 28 2023 12:54 GMT
#123
this is so over kek
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3767 Posts
April 28 2023 12:54 GMT
#124
Ok I think it's fine to call it now
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-28 12:55:40
April 28 2023 12:55 GMT
#125
JyJ bascially teabagged Mind's last drop lol
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:55 GMT
#126
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 5?

Yes (7)
 
70%

No (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 12:56 GMT
#127
Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 6?

If you have time (4)
 
50%

Yes (3)
 
38%

No (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 7?

Yes (7)
 
70%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

No (1)
 
10%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mind vs JyJ Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
April 28 2023 12:57 GMT
#128
Who was the one who thought wearing a mask is not good for competing in ASL?

Turns out the only player who's still wearing masks is the champion.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 12:57 GMT
#129
JyJ very good today.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
April 28 2023 12:58 GMT
#130
Terran now makes up 50% of ASL trophies
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 28 2023 13:00 GMT
#131
More 99% we will have 1-2 island maps in the next season!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 13:02 GMT
#132
Mind was ahead in two of the games he lost, so there was at least a chance for things to turn out differently today.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 13:04 GMT
#133
If I didn't watch the ASL games and just looked at the results of last 2 seasons I'd say Terran confirmed OP.
FBH #1!
Rovant1c
Profile Joined October 2014
China70 Posts
April 28 2023 13:07 GMT
#134
Who guessed JYJ would win lol?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 13:09 GMT
#135
On April 28 2023 19:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lmao I did the thing again, I said JyJ was going to win when I wrote the preview but LB'd mind days in advance.

lol
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 28 2023 13:21 GMT
#136
On April 28 2023 22:09 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 19:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lmao I did the thing again, I said JyJ was going to win when I wrote the preview but LB'd mind days in advance.

lol

I care about being right in my previews way more
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4974 Posts
April 28 2023 13:23 GMT
#137
On April 28 2023 22:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 22:09 Peeano wrote:
On April 28 2023 19:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
lmao I did the thing again, I said JyJ was going to win when I wrote the preview but LB'd mind days in advance.

lol

I care about being right in my previews way more

lol
FBH #1!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
April 28 2023 14:17 GMT
#138
a very underwhelming grand final, gotta say..

still GG WP and congratz on getting the championship to JyJ ofc
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
April 28 2023 14:40 GMT
#139
This season in general had some pretty fun games, however I feel like the skill displayed in the games was missing. Some players surprised me in how they improved from their previous form, like Ample or JyJ, but nobody really wowed me with top level play like the one we saw from RoyaL last season for example.

I hope next season we have the players playing their best and thus we get less upsets.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 28 2023 15:14 GMT
#140
On April 28 2023 22:07 Rovant1c wrote:
Who guessed JYJ would win lol?


Maybe you are unaware but JyJ was at least a small fav to win this.

Id be shocked if the liquibet poll wouldnt show more votes for JYJ than for mind..
hatred outlives the hateful
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
April 28 2023 16:34 GMT
#141
On April 28 2023 22:07 Rovant1c wrote:
Who guessed JYJ would win lol?

i did. mind has a known tvt weakness.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
April 28 2023 18:29 GMT
#142
On April 28 2023 23:40 Galacsia wrote:
I hope next season we have the players playing their best and thus we get less upsets.

They can simply change Ro24 format to BO3 in winners/losers/final matches.

Now looking back, Mini and Soma out early had a huge butterfly effect on this season.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
April 28 2023 19:50 GMT
#143
On April 29 2023 03:29 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 23:40 Galacsia wrote:
I hope next season we have the players playing their best and thus we get less upsets.

They can simply change Ro24 format to BO3 in winners/losers/final matches.

Now looking back, Mini and Soma out early had a huge butterfly effect on this season.

That will, sadly, never happen.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States341 Posts
April 28 2023 20:29 GMT
#144
Yay!!! JyJ dodged TvP almost the whole tournament (only hitting Stork who uh... went carriers every single time).

I thought he played great games this tournament. His TvZ series vs Soulkey and Hero were AWESOME and such good entertainment, and his TvTs vs Rush and Mind were great too. Definitely deserved the win.

Excited to see the new champion! And maybe Protoss can make a better comeback next season.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1999 Posts
April 28 2023 21:11 GMT
#145
We could definitely do with a non Terran champion next season, and some decent Protoss performances.

Best did a decent job standing up for Protoss I thought. The series against Action was AWESOME!

Would be nice for Mini and Snow to do well next season...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Arkaim
Profile Joined January 2008
United States63 Posts
April 28 2023 23:41 GMT
#146
Mind received the final Artosis Curse. Nice one.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-29 00:06:44
April 29 2023 00:03 GMT
#147
Holy hell the player I was supporting finally won a tournament. That hasn't happened since Fantasy back in like 2011.

What an amazing finals, the SKT lineage continues with Royal winning last season and JYJ winning now and even better we have FanTaSy out and about with everyone with a small possibility he might end up back in Broodwar. The fact there might be a chance of that is enough to get me super excited for the future again.

LETS GO JYJJJJJJJJJJJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On April 28 2023 20:10 TMNT wrote:
Oh Fantasy is in the studio today. Apparently he coached JYJ for the finals:

[image loading]


You can tell he did, it was like watching FanTaSy play. I was in love again <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-29 01:04:43
April 29 2023 00:29 GMT
#148
Last season RoyaL, now JyJ - my two favourite upcoming terrans that I kept my hope finally did it! JyJ was really something else this season, I think some of the things he did was even impressive than RoyaL's run.

Now let's go FanTaSy, I hope you won't vanish like last time, saying nonsense like you liked to play SC2 better.
Oh just forgot, and of course ASL16CHAMPRush!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7799 Posts
April 29 2023 02:43 GMT
#149
Seems like JyJ was better overall (even though I wanted Mind to win.) GGs!
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria364 Posts
April 29 2023 10:59 GMT
#150
Was going to make a tinfoil thread about Flash coaching JyJ in secret, glad I spared myself that embarrassment!
Now onto the next one.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 29 2023 11:14 GMT
#151
On April 29 2023 19:59 Nirli wrote:
Was going to make a tinfoil thread about Flash coaching JyJ in secret, glad I spared myself that embarrassment!
Now onto the next one.


He had the better Terran coaching him. >:D
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria364 Posts
April 29 2023 18:44 GMT
#152
On April 29 2023 20:14 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2023 19:59 Nirli wrote:
Was going to make a tinfoil thread about Flash coaching JyJ in secret, glad I spared myself that embarrassment!
Now onto the next one.


He had the better Terran coaching him. >:D

Certainly one of the most impressive Terrans in history and someone who styled on Flash, but yours is a hot take :D

JyJ's MVP has been the Vessel for sure, so I'm expecting some major Tessagi whine (since Zs have always pinpointed that as their bane).
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8486 Posts
April 29 2023 18:53 GMT
#153
I enjoyed the series. Jyj was clearly the better player and deserved the win but Mind didn't play badly.

On April 29 2023 01:34 RJBTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2023 22:07 Rovant1c wrote:
Who guessed JYJ would win lol?

i did. mind has a known tvt weakness.


I mean, looking at how Jyj played against Rush I think he was the favourite in this series.
ArneXis
Profile Joined October 2017
2 Posts
April 30 2023 15:26 GMT
#154
How I imagine ASL 16 map pool will look like:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading]


TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
May 02 2023 11:17 GMT
#155
Just realized that we never had JYJ stream on the sidebar of tl.net. Surely now we must add him?
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
May 02 2023 15:19 GMT
#156
No 3/4 games this season?
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
May 02 2023 16:49 GMT
#157
On May 03 2023 00:19 Elsi wrote:
No 3/4 games this season?

Nope. I haven't been able to find a reason why.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4170 Posts
May 02 2023 17:24 GMT
#158
On May 03 2023 00:19 Elsi wrote:
No 3/4 games this season?

Unfortunate decision.

It often had better games than The Final itself.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3093 Posts
May 03 2023 11:58 GMT
#159
GG to JyJ. Holy shti I did not expect him to get anywhere near the top at the start of the season.
Artosis loves Starcraft
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
May 05 2023 17:22 GMT
#160
that was the most boring finals i ever remember
Sic iter ad astra
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