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Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 1?

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60%

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Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 1?

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(Vote): If you have time


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(Vote): If you have time


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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
April 10 2023 03:04 GMT
#2
Cmon JD you got this
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 06:06 GMT
#3
I'm starting to get nervous....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
April 10 2023 06:09 GMT
#4
It is a coin flip.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4226 Posts
April 10 2023 06:29 GMT
#5
Jaedong FIGHTING!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-10 06:58:04
April 10 2023 06:56 GMT
#6
hero has been the top 2-3 zerg for like 10 years now?
JD seems hungry. His recent performance surprised me. I wasn't a believer and before this tournament I would have told you JD have next to no chance in a Bo5 vs hero.

Based on raw skill I think hero has this by 55(+)%
Prolly 3-2 either way. I will root for JD and his star power.


Best surprisingly is the only Protoss who seems to do well vs hero consistently last time I checked hero's ZvP performance.
It's in Best's interest the scarier ZvPer advances here?

But imagine finally getting your first gold medal at 30+, would you want it to be vs hero or vs JD? Definitely the latter, right?
I don't care about this ZvZ.. I wanna see Best finally have his success on stage. No repeat of July vs Best. It's time, Best. It's your time now.
FBH #1!
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1763 Posts
April 10 2023 07:41 GMT
#7
JD to top4 please!
Leee Jaee Doong
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-10 07:48:16
April 10 2023 07:47 GMT
#8
I doubt JD will win, but is there ANYONE here in the actual crowd that is cheering on Hero? Must be tough for Hero to have everyone against him.

I cross my fingers that JD will win. So much skill, but always living in the shadow of Flash :-(
masoka_spain
Profile Joined April 2023
2 Posts
April 10 2023 07:49 GMT
#9
Jaedong fightning!!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
April 10 2023 08:19 GMT
#10
For those who can't wait until the start of the match, here's a little appetizer! JD vs hero bo5 from a few weeks ago.



JD has improved a lot lately, but can he compete with the hyper aggressive hero who seems to be in top shape?
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-10 08:41:40
April 10 2023 08:32 GMT
#11
Some stats before the match:

Jaedong vs Hero this year: 8-13
Jaedong vs zerg this year: 61-42
Hero vs zerg this year: 44-29
Pinnacle betting odds as of 90 minutes before the games begin:
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btw given the above stats i think its free money to bet on hero at 2 odds.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
April 10 2023 10:03 GMT
#12
Imagine Best, Mind and JD in the ro4.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:12 GMT
#13
A bit of luck pleaseeee!!!

We have this !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:16 GMT
#14
9 pool for hero

overpool for my baby!!! HAAAAA!!!! very good start !!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:21 GMT
#15
nooooooooooooooo
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
April 10 2023 10:21 GMT
#16
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 1?

No (9)
 
60%

If you have time (4)
 
27%

Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:21 GMT
#17
But how !?!?!?!?!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 10:23 GMT
#18
wtf that was brutal
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
April 10 2023 10:27 GMT
#19
hero did a win move by entering the battle at his nat.
Zerghxhx
Profile Joined October 2019
China25 Posts
April 10 2023 10:32 GMT
#20
OMG!Elky!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:33 GMT
#21
wtf ... 7 pool for hero
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:34 GMT
#22
this is it

2-0 incoming.................
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 10:36 GMT
#23
damn
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8495 Posts
April 10 2023 10:44 GMT
#24
i'm sad
i will go now
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
April 10 2023 10:44 GMT
#25
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 2?

If you have time (8)
 
40%

Yes (6)
 
30%

No (6)
 
30%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 10:47 GMT
#26
well this game should have ended at the start and somehow it continued for a while, somehow i dont see the Tyrant taking 3 in a row now even if he pulls himself up...
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
April 10 2023 10:50 GMT
#27
Second game looked mostly like a build order win, but JD's micro still doesn't resemble that from his peak. I think he could've held it if he had his old skills back.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 10:59 GMT
#28
On April 10 2023 19:50 Magic Powers wrote:
Second game looked mostly like a build order win, but JD's micro still doesn't resemble that from his peak. I think he could've held it if he had his old skills back.

i agree, when the initial encouter finished with him losing only 1 ling i was thinking ok wow he won?! but the second encounter went to shit
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 11:06 GMT
#29
again disaster in the last moment for JD, losing 3 muta to scourge
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
April 10 2023 11:08 GMT
#30
Poll: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 3?

Yes (10)
 
67%

If you have time (4)
 
27%

No (1)
 
7%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Jaedong vs hero Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
April 10 2023 11:09 GMT
#31
no sheep for me.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
April 10 2023 11:09 GMT
#32
Oh man, JD almost could've had that third game

Props to hero though, he played the whole match masterfully!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Zergiica
Profile Joined October 2015
Croatia125 Posts
April 10 2023 11:10 GMT
#33
(
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
213 Posts
April 10 2023 11:11 GMT
#34
i mean the 2009 JD wins game 2 and game 3 any day
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2093 Posts
April 10 2023 11:13 GMT
#35
ZvZ
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4226 Posts
April 10 2023 11:59 GMT
#36
. . . -.-
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-10 13:07:41
April 10 2023 13:07 GMT
#37
J < Z

Grats to hero for another final 4.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 10 2023 15:23 GMT
#38
Everyone even Artosis was telling that zergs advancing to ro8 was good for JD but his JvZ peak is sadly over and I knew he would get sniped. If this was couple years ago around ASL 1 - 5 era he would dominate hero but not today.

Still impressive performance from Tyrant. He should never think about retiring. Look at this crazy season: all top dogs eliminated, Bisu didn't even make it. Come back stronger JD!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile162 Posts
April 10 2023 15:49 GMT
#39
The highlight of Ro8 day 3.
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
April 10 2023 17:47 GMT
#40
Rip JD, Hero's muta scourge control was just too on point today.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1702 Posts
April 10 2023 23:36 GMT
#41
fuck im so sad now
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-11 15:45:21
April 11 2023 15:44 GMT
#42
On April 10 2023 19:50 Magic Powers wrote:
Second game looked mostly like a build order win, but JD's micro still doesn't resemble that from his peak. I think he could've held it if he had his old skills back.

Well, if JD had his old skills, he would have probably won most of the ASLs, his old skills can have a case for the best broodwar player ever, not saying he is, but definitely can have such a case and certainly one for the best Zerg ever:-)
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
April 11 2023 19:28 GMT
#43
Welp, the worst thing about this is having to hear from Tastosis about how it's JvZ again next season if Jaedong gets matched with a Zerg. Even JD himself acknowledges that the matchup hasn't been favourable in a long time.
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 12 2023 15:24 GMT
#44
On April 12 2023 04:28 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Welp, the worst thing about this is having to hear from Tastosis about how it's JvZ again next season if Jaedong gets matched with a Zerg. Even JD himself acknowledges that the matchup hasn't been favourable in a long time.

Yeah I thought the same thing, guess it's hard to shake off 15 years of narrative bias. I'm fine with hero winning but this was a depressing series, it was never close.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8143 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-14 18:00:23
April 14 2023 17:59 GMT
#45
On April 13 2023 00:24 Akio wrote:
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On April 12 2023 04:28 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Welp, the worst thing about this is having to hear from Tastosis about how it's JvZ again next season if Jaedong gets matched with a Zerg. Even JD himself acknowledges that the matchup hasn't been favourable in a long time.

Yeah I thought the same thing, guess it's hard to shake off 15 years of narrative bias. I'm fine with hero winning but this was a depressing series, it was never close.


Yea even during KESPA era JvZ sorta ended, with most of his tournament runs ended due to him losing to zergs in the last 12-18 months before the switch to SC2 IIRC. Not sure if those loses were as much him losing his skill or just other zergs catching up to him in the MU though.

Sad to see JD lose like this, but hopefully we get to see him back next season and playing some more ZvTs/ZvPs.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1090 Posts
April 14 2023 21:18 GMT
#46
Not sure what you guys are talking about, but JD is very solid in all the matchups atm, and his zvz especially (prior his RO8 at least). Especially offline, hero is always tough to deal with, this ASL is no different. JD was super stressed, and his micro suffered from it, which doesnt forgive in zvz. I would bet on JD on even odds in a rematch anyday, given JD actual form. I just hope he keeps playing with the same motivation until ASL 16 because well, im a fan, just like you.
Beelzebub1
Profile Joined May 2015
1004 Posts
April 15 2023 02:42 GMT
#47
I'm a huge JD fan but none of those matches looked too good for him. Tbh, JD goofs off alot on his stream (aka enjoying his life a bit) and his practice regiment isn't nearly as rigorous as it was in his glory days. Modern BW players are extremely good at the moment, I also hope JD continues to practice and compete but if he retired tomorrow and said I'm tired of it I wouldn't hold it against him at all.

Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
April 15 2023 09:06 GMT
#48
Hero's muta micro just so good, kinda sad but oh well hope JD continues fighting on.
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