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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
January 20 2023 11:54 GMT
#81
On January 20 2023 13:12 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Hey this thread is awesome! Appreciate u guys.

Ive got a general question for anyone who might know...how is the super ACE match decided in these..is it a randomizer? Bcuz it looks like its often not the 2 strongest players, some of these picks are not ones I wouldve chosen at least lol


Redknights have it answered in the op:
The 3rd set (if necessary) is a single winner-takes-all Super Ace match where each team randomly picks their Ace. In Proleagues where there may be some balance issues, there may be bans permitted to avoid an unbalanced Super Ace match. K league sometimes has the worst performing player for each team come out in the Super Ace match - the Narak ("hell") matchup

Generally if all 8 players are deemed equally strong (relatively) they'll pull out the randomizer. This would lead to cases like yesterday where Stork played Light, which on paper looks a bit imbalanced, but hey, who would have known the result?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-20 17:02:37
January 20 2023 11:58 GMT
#82
Watchout! Rain is joining the Major Proleague today. A bit pity he's facing 3P + Mong.




MAJOR PROLEAGUE, JAN 20 2023

[Team 1 ] Mini Best Shuttle Mong
vs [Team] Soma Jaedong Rain Rush


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Mini <Polypoid> Soma
Mong <Vermeer> Jaedong
Shuttle <Neo Sylphid> Rain
Best <Vermeer> Rush
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Mong <Vermeer> Rain
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Mong <Neo Sylphid> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Shuttle <Polypoid> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Mini <Vermeer> Soma

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mini <Polypoid> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Best <Neo Sylphid> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +
Best <Vermeer> Jaedong


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Mini > Soma
Mong > Jaedong
Shuttle > Rain
Best > Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Mong > Rain
Mong < Soma
Shuttle < Soma
Mini > Soma
Mini < Rush
Best > Rush
Best > Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Team 1 won 4-0 4-3. Not a good day for Rain's return to Proleague, losing to both Shuttle and Mong




redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-20 15:38:07
January 20 2023 15:33 GMT
#83
3 proleague night w K League and moonlight league also opening

The main reason strongest players don't volunteer to go out for the Super Ace match is because the way Korean culture is, if they confidently volunteer to play and then lose, they're going to get sh*t on by the viewers and the fans of teammates they let down. Better to save face by reluctantly going out after being randomly selected, you won't get sh*t on as hard if you lose.

Use of the ladder randomizer makes K league in particular very luck-based, lot of nights winning team is determined by how many times Effort or Sharp is randomly selected (good result) vs. how many times players like YSC are selected (bad result)

In major proleague Shuttle is infamous for the "ㅈㅈㅇㄷ" short for "점중엔딩" = "점중" (Shuttle's nickname) + "엔딩" ("ending") because he tends to lose a lot in the Super Ace Match and thus ends the proleague with a loss for his team (he also wins sometimes in epic fashion)

Example:
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redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 21 2023 14:40 GMT
#84


K League Effort Stork Shuttle YSC v JD Sharp JyJ Mind
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-22 14:34:09
January 22 2023 14:22 GMT
#85
w some pros offline for Korean new year, we have 1 proleague with a weak K league lineup, but w the debut of TY in proleague

TY YSC Kop 815 vs. Hyun Alive Dear Organ

TY stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/sunstar1994/244648636

edit: I would be extremely surprised if any of these players qualified for ASL...
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
January 23 2023 13:55 GMT
#86
Quick question...how do you prevent cheating in these kind of online leagues? A player can just use a second monitor, or simply their phone, to view the livestream of their opponent, right? Or they can just have a friend sitting in the room giving a simple indication like where the opponent is located on the map...Or what tech choices he made...
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
January 23 2023 17:50 GMT
#87
On January 23 2023 22:55 Jubinell wrote:
Quick question...how do you prevent cheating in these kind of online leagues? A player can just use a second monitor, or simply their phone, to view the livestream of their opponent, right? Or they can just have a friend sitting in the room giving a simple indication like where the opponent is located on the map...Or what tech choices he made...

Pretty much an honor system with knowledge that any cheating would mean getting blacklisted

They've been playing for money online for years with the sponbbang system way before these proleagues were even a thing, I think people are relatively confident that people are playing honestly
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
January 23 2023 19:54 GMT
#88
Major Proleague hasn't returned yet but I'll update some of the K League

https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/97308416?change_second=10340

K-LEAGUE, JAN 21 2023

[Team 1] Effort Shuttle Stork YSC
vs [Team 2] Jaedong Sharp JYJ Mind


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Shuttle <Neo Heartbreak Ridge> Jaedong
YSC <Neo Sylphid> JYJ
Effort <Vermeer> Mind
Stork <Nemesis> Sharp
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Shuttle <Retro> Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Effort <Dark Origin> Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +
Effort <Polypoid> Mind


SET 2 (PROLEAGUE)
Stork <Retro> Jaedong
YSC <Vermeer> JYJ
Shuttle <Dark Origin> Sharp
Effort <Neo Sylphid> Mind
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Shuttle > Jaedong
YSC < JYJ
Effort > Mind
Stork < Sharp
Shuttle < Jaedong
Effort > Mind
Effort < Mind

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Stork < Jaedong
YSC < JYJ
Shuttle < Sharp
Effort < Mind

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +



TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-23 21:07:03
January 23 2023 21:06 GMT
#89

https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/97389165?change_second=14741

K-LEAGUE, JAN 23 2023

[Team 1 ] Barracks Mind Dear TY
vs [Team] Stork YSC HyuN Calm


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Dear <Neo Sylphid> YSC
Barracks <Vermeer> HyuN
Mind <Polypoid> Stork
TY <Neo Sylphid> Calm
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
TY <Neo Sylphid> Stork

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Barracks <Neo Sylphid> Calm

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SET 2 (PROLEAGUE)
TY <Vermeer> Calm
Mind <Polypoid> Stork
Barracks <Neo Sylphid> HyuN
Dear <Neo Sylphid> YSC
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Mind <Polypoid> HyuN

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Dear <Polypoid> Calm

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +
Barracks <Polypoid> YSC


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Mind <Neo Sylphid> Calm


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Dear < YSC
Barracks > HyuN
Mind < Stork
TY > Calm
TY > Stork
Barracks > Calm

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
TY < Calm
Mind < Stork
Barracks < HyuN
Dear > YSC
Mind > HyuN
Dear > Calm
Barracks < YSC

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Mind > Calm



Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
January 24 2023 00:32 GMT
#90
Thanks guys! Would it be much to ask for a game recommendation (1 star to 5 star for each game), side by side with the game result post? With 10-15 games per day it's hard to watch all of the games.
I know it's a lot of work. Great job anyways!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
January 24 2023 12:22 GMT
#91
Yeah even I don't have time to watch all of them so it's hard for a rating system but I will put a note next to a game every time I see a good one. Off the top of my head, Soma vs Mini and Rain vs Mong on Jan 20 was the recent epic ones.

Maybe others who follow this thread can also post recommendations after they see a good game. Just leave a note guys.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-24 18:07:17
January 24 2023 12:25 GMT
#92
Btw looks like the big guns are back streaming but still no Major league today, instead Effort's still running his K League as usual. Today we have quite strong line-up:




K-LEAGUE, JAN 24 2023

[Team 1 ] Sharp Effort Stork Piano
vs [Team] Jaedong Rain Mong Motive


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Effort <Polypoid> Mong
Piano <Vermeer> Jaedong
Sharp <Vermeer> Rain
Stork <Polypoid> Motive
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Effort <Neo Sylphid> Mong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Stork <Neo Sylphid> Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SET 2 (PROLEAGUE)
Sharp <Polypoid> Rain
Effort <Neo Sylphid> Mong
Stork <Polypoid> Jaedong
Piano <Vermeer> Motive
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Stork <Vermeer> Rain



+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Effort > Mong
Piano < Jaedong
Sharp > Rain
Stork > Motive
Effort < Mong
Stork > Jaedong

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Sharp < Rain
Effort < Mong
Stork < Jaedong
Piano < Motive

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Stork beat Rain in the super ace. Rain's form since his return hasn't been impressive



TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-25 13:53:29
January 24 2023 12:54 GMT
#93
Wait, Major Proleague has returned.



MAJOR PROLEAGUE, JAN 24 2023

[Team 1] Royal Snow Bisu Soma
vs [Team 2] Rush Mini Best Hero


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Royal <Dark Origin> Hero
Snow <Vermeer> Mini (GREAT GAME!!)
Bisu <Retro> Rush
Soma <Polypoid> Best
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Soma <Neo Sylphid> Mini
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Snow <Nemesis> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Royal <Polypoid> Mini

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Royal <Dark Origin> Best

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Royal <Retro> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Royal <Vermeer> Hero

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +



+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Royal > Hero
Snow > Mini
Bisu > Rush
Soma > Best

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Soma < Mini
Snow < Mini
Royal > Mini
Royal > Best
Royal > Rush
Royal > Hero

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Aside from Mini with 2 wins nobody won a game for Team 2. Royal with yet another kill-all. With this form he's bordering on Flash's level at the Proleague




2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9522 Posts
January 24 2023 13:48 GMT
#94
K-League has more entertaining line-up today imo :d
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
January 24 2023 14:09 GMT
#95
Snow <Vermeer> Mini is a ridiculous game. 35 min PvP but no players ever cross 100 supply, and until the last seconds you couldn't tell who was gonna win.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
January 24 2023 14:56 GMT
#96
On January 24 2023 23:09 TMNT wrote:
Snow <Vermeer> Mini is a ridiculous game. 35 min PvP but no players ever cross 100 supply, and until the last seconds you couldn't tell who was gonna win.


hyped to go back and watch the vod. watching live rn
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-24 15:03:17
January 24 2023 15:02 GMT
#97
On January 24 2023 23:56 whylessness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2023 23:09 TMNT wrote:
Snow <Vermeer> Mini is a ridiculous game. 35 min PvP but no players ever cross 100 supply, and until the last seconds you couldn't tell who was gonna win.


hyped to go back and watch the vod. watching live rn

Go to Soma's stream for the Observer view: youtu.be

If you want FP view, Snow and Mini both have youtube livestream.
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-24 15:26:00
January 24 2023 15:24 GMT
#98
lmfao after maining LoL for a while, Soulkey returns to proleague action to.... the moonlight G League

https://play.afreecatv.com/minchul/244679103

Soulkey Horang2 Hyun vs. Kop Mind Calm

Edit: as we get closer to ASL qualifiers the proleagues are going to be packed IMO
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-26 06:55:13
January 25 2023 13:52 GMT
#99


MAJOR PROLEAGUE, JAN 25 2023

[Team 1] Royal Mini Bisu Hero
vs [Team 2] Rush Best Queen Soma


SET 1 (PROLEAGUE)
Hero <Retro> Soma
Bisu <Nemesis> Rush
Mini <Neo Sylphid> Queen
Royal <Vermeer> Best
+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Royal <Dark Origin> Queen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Bisu <Polypoid> Best

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +


SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE)
Royal <Vermeer> Soma
+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Royal <Polypoid> Best

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Royal <Dark Origin> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Bisu <Nemesis> Rush

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Bisu <Neo Sylphid> Queen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Mini <Retro> Queen

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7 - Ace] +
Hero <Vermeer> Queen


SUPER ACE
+ Show Spoiler +
Hero <Vermeer> Queen


+ Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] +
Hero < Soma
Bisu < Rush
Mini > Queen
Royal > Best
Royal < Queen
Bisu < Best

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] +
Royal > Soma
Royal > Best
Royal < Rush
Bisu > Rush
Bisu < Queen
Mini < Queen
Hero > Queen

+ Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] +
Many good games today with the results very close, but then all were decided in two ZvZ matches. Queen edged it against Hero in the super ace. MVP Queen with 4W/2L



TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3086 Posts
January 25 2023 15:09 GMT
#100
Watch this from Queen:
https://media.fmkorea.com/files/attach/new3/20230126/6042994/3768128583/5432906522/aa8b48ce8bccf738884251b21e0b38d5.mp4
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