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TMNT
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Soft_General_5023
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1325 Posts
On November 15 2025 00:05 TMNT wrote: There was a "weak" one on the 11th but there's only Afreeca VOD. Maybe I'll post later. But generally this is the low season for proleague and top level BW activities. There have only been 3 proleagues (all tiers) since the end of ASL. Alwaya university finals in november. | ||
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Kanzzer
66 Posts
On November 14 2025 23:59 Arjangatang wrote: Have there been any Proleagues lately? When is this silly girls tournament over so we can get some actual quality games? "This silly girls tournament" is like half the reason why the BW scene is not dead in Korea, why Bisu and Flash are able to recover from the Coingate, and the coaching jobs for the pros pay much more than what the ASL pays the champion. Without it there wouldn't be either daily proleagues nor ASL in 2025 for you to spew your obviously uninformed takes here. | ||
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Arjangatang
8 Posts
On November 15 2025 02:28 Kanzzer wrote: "This silly girls tournament" is like half the reason why the BW scene is not dead in Korea, why Bisu and Flash are able to recover from the Coingate, and the coaching jobs for the pros pay much more than what the ASL pays the champion. Without it there wouldn't be either daily proleagues nor ASL in 2025 for you to spew your obviously uninformed takes here. Haha well ok thanks for informing me. But I dont think its half the reason, there is Proleague which pays them alot, and IF they didnt do the damn coingate, there would be no need to recover the reputation, would there? I see their streams are also doing pretty damn well. It's not just for the girls bro, the fan scene is passionate, and I'm one of them | ||
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Kanzzer
66 Posts
Arjangatang wrote: there is Proleague which pays them alot Ever wonder why whoever funds these Proleagues pay them a lot? Ever wonder why whoever runs these University teams pay them so much money to be coaches? Do you even know that? Arjangatang wrote: IF they didnt do the damn coingate, there would be no need to recover the reputation, would there? Some genius logic here, chief. That's like asking "if they didn't mess up, they wouldn't need to recover, would they?" Read what I said again: without these University coaching jobs, Flash and Bisu will still have to disable all their Youtube comments to this day and their status as SC celebrity will practically be gone. Lmao or did you think those two recover by simply being great at BW? You are way out of your depth here, "bro". Arjangatang wrote:: It's not just for the girls bro Do you know who these women are? If you have any serious knowledge about the Korean BW scene - which I can safely assume that you don't - you would know these are not just any randos. In fact I'd be willing to bet $100 that any of them will whoop your casual butt in a BO9 set. Arjangatang wrote: the fan scene is passionate, and I'm one of them Lmao ok. Well Mr. "Passionate Fan", do you donate to any of the Pro streams? Do you purchase any of their premium education videos? Do you speak Korean? Can you even name any offline Korean BW events (or online for that matter) that is not ASL? | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1325 Posts
On November 15 2025 02:28 Kanzzer wrote: "This silly girls tournament" is like half the reason why the BW scene is not dead in Korea, why Bisu and Flash are able to recover from the Coingate, and the coaching jobs for the pros pay much more than what the ASL pays the champion. Without it there wouldn't be either daily proleagues nor ASL in 2025 for you to spew your obviously uninformed takes here. as a person who has donated thousands to PLs and sponsor matches, I can assure you that Uni league is not responsible for there being money for PLS. MPL and KPL were already pulling good donation numbers in 2019. Moonlight PL, which later rebranded to K2PL, and later disappeared struggled to get funding at times, but still frequently hit 100-200 per winner. University League largely brought in MORE money across the board. MPL and KPL saw an increase, but they werent struggling to begin with. Uni league specifically allowed for the lower earners to earn more. Hence we stopped seeing Moonlight PL/K2PL, because most of them saw a steady consistent revenue stream through UNI league and teams. Uni leagues increasd the amount of money, but is not responsible for there being money. | ||
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Arjangatang
8 Posts
On November 16 2025 01:31 Kanzzer wrote: Ever wonder why whoever funds these Proleagues pay them a lot? Ever wonder why whoever runs these University teams pay them so much money to be coaches? Do you even know that? Some genius logic here, chief. That's like asking "if they didn't mess up, they wouldn't need to recover, would they?" Read what I said again: without these University coaching jobs, Flash and Bisu will still have to disable all their Youtube comments to this day and their status as SC celebrity will practically be gone. Lmao or did you think those two recover by simply being great at BW? You are way out of your depth here, "bro". Do you know who these women are? If you have any serious knowledge about the Korean BW scene - which I can safely assume that you don't - you would know these are not just any randos. In fact I'd be willing to bet $100 that any of them will whoop your casual butt in a BO9 set. Lmao ok. Well Mr. "Passionate Fan", do you donate to any of the Pro streams? Do you purchase any of their premium education videos? Do you speak Korean? Can you even name any offline Korean BW events (or online for that matter) that is not ASL? Ok I'm so sorry for not knowing every factoid about Korean BW scene. But to a SIMP like you i guess its the ultimate sin to not know. And im glad someone corrected your arrogant arse on this, as I knew before, PL's were doing just fine before the University leagues came along. Either way, it says ALOT about your personality and miserable state of affairs of your life to be the self appointed gate keeper of information on here, and for you to talk crap to me, when I was just asking a question, again it says alot. OMG these korean girls? I dont know who they are! They ain't some randos! Sorry! They must be incredible upstanding citizens of society, how DARE I not pray to them daily for their irrelevant streams and lack of work ethic or talent? Honestly our society has become a cesspool of people who think they are RELEVANT because they have a lot of followers. As if popularity automatically denotes importance. I'm sure I can be famous too if I ask my girlfriend to make an only fans for the sole purpose of getting simps like you to dish out money for naked boobies. But I got more important stuff to do with my life. Maybe you should also stop obsessing over BW factoids and do something in REAL life for once? Just a thought. And stop being so angry and miserable, trust me the world does not hate you. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kanzzer
66 Posts
On November 16 2025 02:11 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: as a person who has donated thousands to PLs and sponsor matches, I can assure you that Uni league is not responsible for there being money for PLS. MPL and KPL were already pulling good donation numbers in 2019. Moonlight PL, which later rebranded to K2PL, and later disappeared struggled to get funding at times, but still frequently hit 100-200 per winner. University League largely brought in MORE money across the board. MPL and KPL saw an increase, but they werent struggling to begin with. Uni league specifically allowed for the lower earners to earn more. Hence we stopped seeing Moonlight PL/K2PL, because most of them saw a steady consistent revenue stream through UNI league and teams. Uni leagues increasd the amount of money, but is not responsible for there being money. Thanks for your information. It was definitely an exaggeration from my part. Proleagues definitely are powerful on its merits, and I obviously have a lot more to learn about the scene. Arjangatang hasn't brought anything to the table that, for all intends and purposes, shows that he's well-informed about the Korean BW scene though. And his...undertone makes the rest of us on this forums look really bad. EDIT: as I finished writing this comment, Arjangatang just showed what he truly brings to the table. Instead of admitting that you had a lot to learn - like the rest of us all do here - you instead doubled down on your goofy rhetoric and ignorance. I'm not just betting anymore, I'm willing to PAY $100 to see you trying to win a single game against any of these "lack of work ethic or talents" Uni players now. That would make a good show! | ||
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TMNT
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Arjangatang
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On November 16 2025 02:29 Kanzzer wrote: Thanks for your information. It was definitely an exaggeration from my part. Proleagues definitely are powerful on its merits, and I obviously have a lot more to learn about the scene. Arjangatang hasn't brought anything to the table that, for all intends and purposes, shows that he's well-informed about the Korean BW scene though. And his...undertone makes the rest of us on this forums look really bad. EDIT: as I finished writing this comment, Arjangatang just showed what he truly brings to the table. Instead of admitting that you had a lot to learn - like the rest of us all do here - you instead doubled down on your goofy rhetoric and ignorance. I'm not just betting anymore, I'm willing to PAY $100 to see you trying to win a single game against any of these "lack of work ethic or talents" Uni players now. That would make a good show! Undertone? Excuse me? Who attacked me and started talking smack for no reason? Im sorry you made yourself look bad with your attacks, amazing how you lack the ability to self reflect. I DO know about other leagues, there is SCSL and then there is QSENN, BSL, StarcastTV, etc. But let's say I dont know, and I am a new fan, is this the way to engage with someone? Mocking them and talking smack? I personally thought the girls league is a silly thing, is that a personal attack on you? Why act so offended? I simply asked a question. By "lack of talent" im not seaking about SC, im talking about real life. I know to you games are the most important thing in the world, but the rest of us got other things going on too. I am an A league Zerg on ladder but dont play anymore because I got too much work to do, but i love starcraft BW and always will support it, and have donated to certain channel's causes to support them. OH GOD I dont bring something to the Starcraft table! Holy crap! I'm so sorry! I feel degraded, some nerd on the internet accused me of not knowing....the Korean Scene! I'll go cry now. | ||
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Arjangatang
8 Posts
On November 16 2025 05:18 TMNT wrote: @Kanzzer: I feel like you were unnecessarily too aggressive with your first and second comment. Arjangatang seems like someone who is rather uninformed than having a negative attitude. Your posts probably trigger him a bit and it can only escalate from there. Would be better if both sides just calm down. I'm not that much of a casual man, I been playing and following BW since 1999, hit A league on ladder last year then quit, because i work too much and got no time. And that was my very first time posting a question on this forum, and being treated in a very toxic manner by Mr Kanzzer, due to the way he mocked and made fun of me. I would never let anyone treat me or anyone else this way, its disgusting and not a way to behave like a real man, but rather a manchild. He should feel pretty embarassed to be representing this forum and throwing a tantrum like a baby. But apparently since I am a moron and a low IQ NOOB, I will ask a question and be super grateful if someone can answer me without insulting me. I still don't know how the Proleague system works. Why do they play the first round if the winners or ACE is the one that matters as far as the prize pool? Can someone explain to me how the proleagues function? If its not too ungodly of a task to do... | ||
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TornadoSteve
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TMNT
3382 Posts
This is such a non issue guys. Try to peace out. | ||
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Kanzzer
66 Posts
I been meaning to ask you TMNT, you seemed to actively checked sponbbang back when the site was still online. Back in 2023, in an ASL5 map pool thread, you had PvT and TvZ sponbbang data on Gladiator on-hand (along with other maps) to support your debate that the maps were not bad for Terran, so I was wondering if you saw the ZvP data on that map too? If you did, do you happen to remember how it looked? | ||
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TMNT
3382 Posts
On November 16 2025 10:26 Kanzzer wrote: I don't necessary agree, but that's a conversation for another day. I been meaning to ask you TMNT, you seemed to actively checked sponbbang back when the site was still online. Back in 2023, in an ASL5 map pool thread, you had PvT and TvZ sponbbang data on Gladiator on-hand (along with other maps) to support your debate that the maps were not bad for Terran, so I was wondering if you saw the ZvP data on that map too? If you did, do you happen to remember how it looked? Unfortunately, can't remember those. Maybe there are a few screenshots of map stats from sponbbang somewhere in the forum. But impossible to find. | ||
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TMNT
3382 Posts
MAJOR PROLEAGUE, NOV 16 2025 [Team A]  Mini Stork  Sharp  Hero vs [Team B] Rush Barracks Royal Soma SET 1 (PROLEAGUE) Mini <Radeon> Soma Hero <Litmus> Barracks Sharp <Dominator> Royal Stork <Pole Star> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 5] + Hero <KnockOut> Royal + Show Spoiler [Game 6] + Mini <Roaring Currents> Soma + Show Spoiler [Game 7] + SET 2 (WINNERS LEAGUE) Mini <Radeon> Barracks + Show Spoiler [Game 2] + Mini <Dominator> Soma + Show Spoiler [Game 3] + Mini <Litmus> Royal + Show Spoiler [Game 4] + Mini <Metropolis> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 5] + Stork <KnockOut> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 6] + Stork <Pole Star> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 7] + Sharp <Dominator> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 8] + Hero <Metropolis> Rush + Show Spoiler [Game 9] + SUPER ACE + Show Spoiler + Mini <Radeon> Royal + Show Spoiler [Set 1 Results] + Mini < Soma Hero > Barracks Sharp > Royal Stork < Rush Hero < Royal Mini < Soma + Show Spoiler [Set 2 Results] + Mini > Barracks Mini > Soma Mini > Royal Mini < Rush Stork > Rush Stork < Rush Sharp < Rush Hero > Rush + Show Spoiler [FINAL RESULTS] + Mini beat Royal in the super ace | ||
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Arjangatang
8 Posts
On November 16 2025 08:44 TMNT wrote: Yeah a very detailed description of proleagues can be found in the first post of this thread. This is such a non issue guys. Try to peace out. You make it seem like I was the one who insulted him first. This clown went out of his way to make fun of me when all I did was ask a question. | ||
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Arjangatang
8 Posts
On November 16 2025 10:26 Kanzzer wrote: I don't necessary agree, but that's a conversation for another day. I been meaning to ask you TMNT, you seemed to actively checked sponbbang back when the site was still online. Back in 2023, in an ASL5 map pool thread, you had PvT and TvZ sponbbang data on Gladiator on-hand (along with other maps) to support your debate that the maps were not bad for Terran, so I was wondering if you saw the ZvP data on that map too? If you did, do you happen to remember how it looked? You're a manchild and you know it. I hope you see how embarassing your behavior was. Hope your life turns around someday...goofball | ||
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TornadoSteve
1142 Posts
On November 17 2025 00:41 Arjangatang wrote: You make it seem like I was the one who insulted him first. This clown went out of his way to make fun of me when all I did was ask a question. HE INSULTED YOU FIRST. IM A WITNESS. | ||
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