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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:12 denyo77 wrote: why he didnt just lost vs ex and win vs ra to get 2#? One had beat both of the other two. He would be 1. The other two would decide stop 2 among them. You should have said: "Why didn't he just lose vs Ra and win vs Ex?" Probably the risk of getting cheesed in the last match vs Ex. It sucks to throw 3 matches for second place and then ending up being third. | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:10 viceroy wrote: did Ex have anything to say here ? I don't think so.. he had his role to play, and he played along. in the first two tie-breakers ra absolutely had to lose vs ex in order to avoid the no 1 spot, and ex could have made it difficult for ra to throw. so yes, he helped ra get the outcome he wanted for his group. | ||
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mayap
United States185 Posts
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mayap
United States185 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:21 mayap wrote: btw can the kors get 1 2 3 now? erm im sure they cant because Hwasin and stork have to meet before semis now i think. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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mayap
United States185 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:21 Camlito wrote: erm im sure they cant because Hwasin and stork have to meet before semis now i think. well wouldnt you have to meet in the semis in order to have a chance to play for the 3rd place match ? i think this means only 2 kors get into the top 3 now edit : i think a couple of foreigners just ruined cj, stx soul and khan's master plan | ||
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BruceLeeToss
United States154 Posts
but not top3 due to the fact the Hwasin and Stork might meet in ro8 (Round of 8) but yeah having 2 koreans in opposite side of brackets. It would of been nicer if they were all in in bottom half. that way a non-korean guarantees 2nd place i still find it hard for a non-korean to beat a korean in bo3 now. well atleast these particular top5 kespa korean players. they also placed top3 in WCG Korea without using these WCG Maps. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:11 strongwind wrote: stork:"these foreigners are tough...they just refuse to win" I think that is exactly what was going through his mind. They really need to rethink the way their tournament operates for next year. xD | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:24 RoMeO wrote: koreans can get top2 still but not top3 due to the fact the Hwasin and Stork might meet in ro8 (Round of 8) but yeah having 2 koreans in opposite side of brackets. It would of been nicer if they were all in in bottom half. that way a non-korean guarantees 2nd place i still find it hard for a non-korean to beat a korean in bo3 now. well atleast these particular top5 kespa korean players. they also placed top3 in WCG Korea without using these WCG Maps. We don't need affirmative action thx. Let the 3 best players take the medals. | ||
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mayap
United States185 Posts
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mayap
United States185 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:28 Aphelion wrote: Fuck this. WCG needs to have seeding system or double elimination. agreed with seeding system but thats pretty hard for the foreigners who arnt really known or the foreigners who are close to each other skill-wise,i guess they wouldnt make any difference in the group (the foreigners who arnt known really well) stages but u never know | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3022 Posts
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MyCrow
Korea (South)248 Posts
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Sadist
United States7189 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:52 MyCrow wrote: I like how everyone is blaming Stork for doing what he is suppose to do, and not Ra/Ex who are just trying to fuck one of the koreans from getting a medal. WCG needs to implement a seeding system next year so the better players don't have to purposely throw games like this. no they dont, they need to implement double elim, Double elim BO1 is better than single elim bo3 imo. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On October 06 2007 12:55 Sadist wrote: no they dont, they need to implement double elim, Double elim BO1 is better than single elim bo3 imo. I agree. With double elim we won't get so much of this crap. I took a closer look at the savior/mondragon thing, and guess what, thanks to savior being #2 in his group, he can now avoid Hwasin until the finals. Otherwise he would have played him in semis (if GG.net's bracket order is correct) Now I'm not saying savior threw the game, but a little odd how the way things turned out, no? Koreans want to get #1,#2,#3 like last year. So I'm sure they thought of the best possible ways to get their brackets split as far as possible. It would have been a success if Stork just pulled through, but thanks to White-ra and Ex's continuous tiebreakers (intentional or not) it didn't happen. Look at the brackets on GGnet. If Stork got #2, he wouldn't have to face another Korean until semis (savior), and then face Hwasin at the finals. Now he has to face hwasin at the Ro16. Now if you look at this in another light, it's probably more likely that Mondy beat savior fair, because savior/mondi game came before stork's 3 way tiebreaker. Which means they probably assumed stork would get #2 anyways, and if savior got #1 in his group, he's play hwasin at the semis and whoever won would play stork at the finals. This seems like a more logical choice, so the fact that didn't happen is probably a strong argument that the savior/mondi game was legit. | ||
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
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