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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 06 2007 03:16 GMT
#921
On October 06 2007 12:12 denyo77 wrote:
why he didnt just lost vs ex and win vs ra to get 2#?



One had beat both of the other two. He would be 1. The other two would decide stop 2 among them.


You should have said: "Why didn't he just lose vs Ra and win vs Ex?"

Probably the risk of getting cheesed in the last match vs Ex. It sucks to throw 3 matches for second place and then ending up being third.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
October 06 2007 03:19 GMT
#922
On October 06 2007 12:10 viceroy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 12:08 GeLaar wrote:
ex should get a special medal for "curageous sacrifice to thwart the korean conspiracy of complete sc domination"

did Ex have anything to say here ? I don't think so..


he had his role to play, and he played along. in the first two tie-breakers ra absolutely had to lose vs ex in order to avoid the no 1 spot, and ex could have made it difficult for ra to throw. so yes, he helped ra get the outcome he wanted for his group.
Brood War is alive and well.
mayap
Profile Joined September 2007
United States185 Posts
October 06 2007 03:21 GMT
#923
rofl so an enraged stork is awaiting mondi in the semis most likely?
mayap
Profile Joined September 2007
United States185 Posts
October 06 2007 03:21 GMT
#924
btw can the kors get 1 2 3 now?
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 06 2007 03:21 GMT
#925
On October 06 2007 12:21 mayap wrote:
btw can the kors get 1 2 3 now?


erm im sure they cant because Hwasin and stork have to meet before semis now i think.
sAviOr...
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
October 06 2007 03:22 GMT
#926
All those tiebreakers were insane, ffs.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
mayap
Profile Joined September 2007
United States185 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 03:27:33
October 06 2007 03:23 GMT
#927
On October 06 2007 12:21 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 12:21 mayap wrote:
btw can the kors get 1 2 3 now?


erm im sure they cant because Hwasin and stork have to meet before semis now i think.


well wouldnt you have to meet in the semis in order to have a chance to play for the 3rd place match ? i think this means only 2 kors get into the top 3 now

edit : i think a couple of foreigners just ruined cj, stx soul and khan's master plan
BruceLeeToss
Profile Joined August 2006
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 03:26:58
October 06 2007 03:24 GMT
#928
koreans can get top2 still
but not top3 due to the fact the Hwasin and Stork might meet in ro8 (Round of 8)
but yeah having 2 koreans in opposite side of brackets.

It would of been nicer if they were all in in bottom half.
that way a non-korean guarantees 2nd place

i still find it hard for a non-korean to beat a korean in bo3 now.
well atleast these particular top5 kespa korean players.

they also placed top3 in WCG Korea without using these WCG Maps.
["Skill is earned by hardwork, not dreaming."]
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 06 2007 03:26 GMT
#929
On October 06 2007 12:11 strongwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 12:09 jtan wrote:
On October 06 2007 12:08 strongwind wrote:
i bet stork hates WCG now lol

I bet hwasin hates stork

"omg you promised!"


stork:"these foreigners are tough...they just refuse to win"


I think that is exactly what was going through his mind.
They really need to rethink the way their tournament operates for next year. xD
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
October 06 2007 03:27 GMT
#930
come on satanik, you can beat stork! it's his weak mu!
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
October 06 2007 03:28 GMT
#931
Fuck this. WCG needs to have seeding system or double elimination.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
October 06 2007 03:29 GMT
#932
On October 06 2007 12:24 RoMeO wrote:
koreans can get top2 still
but not top3 due to the fact the Hwasin and Stork might meet in ro8 (Round of 8)
but yeah having 2 koreans in opposite side of brackets.

It would of been nicer if they were all in in bottom half.
that way a non-korean guarantees 2nd place

i still find it hard for a non-korean to beat a korean in bo3 now.
well atleast these particular top5 kespa korean players.

they also placed top3 in WCG Korea without using these WCG Maps.


We don't need affirmative action thx. Let the 3 best players take the medals.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
mayap
Profile Joined September 2007
United States185 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 03:36:14
October 06 2007 03:32 GMT
#933
well its pretty obvious the kors were targeting top 3, ra is a great player but beating stork 3 (best pvp along with bisu)games then losing to ex who stork just easily ran over every game? i dont think the kors would want to enter a tour like this where one of them doesnt get a prize and played all these games for no reason and wasted their time while they could have prepared themselves for upcoming league matchs etc.
mayap
Profile Joined September 2007
United States185 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 03:38:06
October 06 2007 03:35 GMT
#934
On October 06 2007 12:28 Aphelion wrote:
Fuck this. WCG needs to have seeding system or double elimination.


agreed with seeding system but thats pretty hard for the foreigners who arnt really known or the foreigners who are close to each other skill-wise,i guess they wouldnt make any difference in the group (the foreigners who arnt known really well) stages but u never know
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 06 2007 03:46 GMT
#935
TL.Net should send a condolence ham to Stork. I feel really bad for him now, being stuck in his shitty situation.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
October 06 2007 03:46 GMT
#936
whats the stream games schedule for tomorrow?
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
MyCrow
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)248 Posts
October 06 2007 03:52 GMT
#937
I like how everyone is blaming Stork for doing what he is suppose to do, and not Ra/Ex who are just trying to fuck one of the koreans from getting a medal. WCG needs to implement a seeding system next year so the better players don't have to purposely throw games like this.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7246 Posts
October 06 2007 03:55 GMT
#938
On October 06 2007 12:52 MyCrow wrote:
I like how everyone is blaming Stork for doing what he is suppose to do, and not Ra/Ex who are just trying to fuck one of the koreans from getting a medal. WCG needs to implement a seeding system next year so the better players don't have to purposely throw games like this.


no they dont, they need to implement double elim,

Double elim BO1 is better than single elim bo3 imo.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 06 2007 04:09 GMT
#939
On October 06 2007 12:55 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2007 12:52 MyCrow wrote:
I like how everyone is blaming Stork for doing what he is suppose to do, and not Ra/Ex who are just trying to fuck one of the koreans from getting a medal. WCG needs to implement a seeding system next year so the better players don't have to purposely throw games like this.


no they dont, they need to implement double elim,

Double elim BO1 is better than single elim bo3 imo.

I agree.

With double elim we won't get so much of this crap.

I took a closer look at the savior/mondragon thing, and guess what, thanks to savior being #2 in his group, he can now avoid Hwasin until the finals. Otherwise he would have played him in semis (if GG.net's bracket order is correct) Now I'm not saying savior threw the game, but a little odd how the way things turned out, no?

Koreans want to get #1,#2,#3 like last year. So I'm sure they thought of the best possible ways to get their brackets split as far as possible. It would have been a success if Stork just pulled through, but thanks to White-ra and Ex's continuous tiebreakers (intentional or not) it didn't happen.

Look at the brackets on GGnet. If Stork got #2, he wouldn't have to face another Korean until semis (savior), and then face Hwasin at the finals. Now he has to face hwasin at the Ro16.

Now if you look at this in another light, it's probably more likely that Mondy beat savior fair, because savior/mondi game came before stork's 3 way tiebreaker. Which means they probably assumed stork would get #2 anyways, and if savior got #1 in his group, he's play hwasin at the semis and whoever won would play stork at the finals. This seems like a more logical choice, so the fact that didn't happen is probably a strong argument that the savior/mondi game was legit.
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NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-06 04:27:57
October 06 2007 04:20 GMT
#940
I would have #2 seeds of ko brackets randomly shuffled/drawn after groups. With added restriction no players from same group can play against each other in ro16.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
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