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[ASL14] Grand Finals

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 01:53:28
October 08 2022 01:49 GMT
#1

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 01:50 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Will Win?

Rush (13)
 
54%

Royal (11)
 
46%

24 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?

(Vote): Rush
(Vote): Royal

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
October 08 2022 06:37 GMT
#3
Hype time!!
sup
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 06:45:26
October 08 2022 06:41 GMT
#4
Get hyped, TL!!
Get me hyped. Get us hyped. Go crazy!

Not the finals we wanted, but let's forget about that and show some love to these finalists!

What's your favorite snack to eat while watching BW? I haven't decided yet and I'm running out of time.
FBH #1!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 07:47 GMT
#5
Go Royal!
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 08:03:43
October 08 2022 08:02 GMT
#6
I see we moved from kpop to traditional korean instrument cover of starcraft's soundtrack.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey820 Posts
October 08 2022 08:04 GMT
#7
Korean cover was great.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:17 GMT
#8
Someone get Royal a glass of water, poor dude keeps gasping like magikarp
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:35 GMT
#9
Both players starting supply rax in base
FBH #1!
2_2
Profile Joined June 2022
Poland40 Posts
October 08 2022 08:36 GMT
#10
It will be hard to match the semi-finals this season, but I like both players and I like TvT, so I'm happy no matter who wins. Just hope it's not 4-0.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:37 GMT
#11
Royal with an unscouted proxy fact. However Rush did bunker his nat
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:38 GMT
#12
0 vultures, 2 addons
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 08:42 GMT
#13
already an action packed game
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:44 GMT
#14
Awesome timing attack by Royal, but Rush did quite well defending it. They seem pretty equal and now it's a continuous fight of Rush trying to break Royal's contain and Royal reinforcing it.. Rush finally breaks the contain.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:46 GMT
#15
We're transitioning to mid late and Rush is trying to find a good position on the map to get into the late game comfortably.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:47 GMT
#16
Both players are trying to establish their 3rd, but Royal has a ninja CC in his favor.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:50 GMT
#17
Continuous trading of tanks to fight over more map control.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:51 GMT
#18
Royal lost quite some control when he opted to take a 4th instead of pumping more units with his ninja expo, but he is now pushing back Rush. Meanwhile Royal's Ninja expo is still unscouted.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:53 GMT
#19
Royal's Ninja expo got him a handful of cloaked wraiths that racked up substantial scv kills at Rush's 3rd.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:53 GMT
#20
Royal with an supply lead is slowly pushing his way into Rush's territory
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:55 GMT
#21
The Ninja expo is still unscouted and Royal is denying Rush any air at his own natural with another handful of cloak wraiths.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:56 GMT
#22
Rush is getting dropped left and right. Somehow he is still holding on and fighting, despite Royal being so ahead.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 08:57 GMT
#23
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 1?

Yes (14)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 08:58 GMT
#24
Rush taps out. Royal seems super relieved, excited and is trying his hardest to control both his nervous and excitement!
FBH #1!
DeLoAdEr
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Japan527 Posts
October 08 2022 09:00 GMT
#25
Go Royal :D
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:01 GMT
#26
Royal just collected a very valuable first win, from his reaction you can tell he knows it too.
Rush will be mad watching that replay lol
FBH #1!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 09:02 GMT
#27
Very interesting game. Royal played great, but Rush could've turned it around if not for the hidden base. Without that oversight, maybe Rush would've won.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 09:16 GMT
#28
Huh. I blinked and the game ended :[
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 09:16 GMT
#29
Very nice hold by Rush.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 09:19 GMT
#30
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 2?

Yes (5)
 
45%

No (3)
 
27%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:21 GMT
#31
I feel like Royal's last build on that map would only work vs a Terran <2400 mmr.
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 09:22 GMT
#32
Unbelivable!!! I forgot about this and missed the LB also.... please a bit of LR
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:26 GMT
#33
Rush seems content with just building a bunker vs Royal even if he wouldn't need it. It actually delays his factory units and makes Royal's tank pushes stronger. I hope Royal does another Ninja cc. It would be such an insult to injury ^^
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:27 GMT
#34
On October 08 2022 18:22 prosatan wrote:
Unbelivable!!! I forgot about this and missed the LB also.... please a bit of LR

I did it for the 1st game, but I only have 1 monitor to work with atm. And I really wanna watch the games fully too.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:30 GMT
#35
IF Royal had controlled his tanks there to focus fire the game would have been done.
FBH #1!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 09:31 GMT
#36
Royal is all over Rush at the moment. So many dead SCV.
Artosis loves Starcraft
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 09:32 GMT
#37
On October 08 2022 18:27 Peeano wrote:
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On October 08 2022 18:22 prosatan wrote:
Unbelivable!!! I forgot about this and missed the LB also.... please a bit of LR

I did it for the 1st game, but I only have 1 monitor to work with atm. And I really wanna watch the games fully too.

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany101 Posts
October 08 2022 09:34 GMT
#38
impressive
kinda right, kinda wrong
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 09:34 GMT
#39
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 09:34 GMT
#40
Neither guys seem to really control their tank fire. Just press O and go back to macro.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 09:55:56
October 08 2022 09:55 GMT
#41
4th game has started. Rush is starting with an expo build yet again and Royal delays his own to pressure early.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 10:03 GMT
#42
Royal is not focus firing after sieging and it's costing him a lot.
FBH #1!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 10:10 GMT
#43
Goooo Royal! He's showing everyone
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 10:11 GMT
#44
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 4?

Yes (14)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 10:11 GMT
#45
GG Royal costing me LB points here atm.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 10:12 GMT
#46
Impressive by Royal. Beast macro and multi tasking.
FBH #1!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 10:28 GMT
#47
Ouch that mine hit.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 08 2022 10:30 GMT
#48
Man, stream just aint workin for me.
The Bomber boy
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 10:34 GMT
#49
I don't know how Royal suddenly has more bases than Rush and supply is similar, I don't understand it. But I guess that's why I'm a fan lol
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 10:37 GMT
#50
Rush with the 2-1 upgrade advantage and supply advantage, this is a problem for Royal.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 10:40 GMT
#51
Damn that was an action packed game.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5822 Posts
October 08 2022 10:42 GMT
#52
On October 08 2022 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Man, stream just aint workin for me.

Watch on Afreeca and try to toggle the quality to High, Normal if you haven't already.
FBH #1!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 08 2022 10:43 GMT
#53
On October 08 2022 19:42 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 19:30 Wintex wrote:
Man, stream just aint workin for me.

Watch on Afreeca and try to toggle the quality to High, Normal if you haven't already.

Korean stream suddenly started working after i logged in and flipped to source lmfao. Afreeca's something else
The Bomber boy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 10:49 GMT
#54
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 5?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 10:50 GMT
#55
If I could predict royal to proxy on nemesis, surely rush would know....no?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 10:53 GMT
#56
OK! Let's watch some starcraft !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 10:53 GMT
#57
Thank you Peeano ! !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4276 Posts
October 08 2022 10:55 GMT
#58
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 10:55 GMT
#59
WOW! insane trick with that rax !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 10:55 GMT
#60
WOW that barracks. Rush gave Royal a headache right there
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 10:56 GMT
#61
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-

I also forgot M3t4PhYzX ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4276 Posts
October 08 2022 11:01 GMT
#62
On October 08 2022 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-

I also forgot M3t4PhYzX ...

I didn't forget.. I was sure it was on the 9th because that's what liqui said and it was correct with every other game this season.. I was misdirected..
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 11:01 GMT
#63
GG!!! So glad for Royal !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
October 08 2022 11:01 GMT
#64
it's ogre
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 08 2022 11:02 GMT
#65
Man, what a match
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 11:02 GMT
#66
Poll: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 6?

Yes (12)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs Royal Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 11:02 GMT
#67
congrats to royal
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3162 Posts
October 08 2022 11:02 GMT
#68
Grats to Royal on teh ASL victory.
Artosis loves Starcraft
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
October 08 2022 11:03 GMT
#69
Bisudagger nailed the prediction !!!! Congrats !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 11:03 GMT
#70
Rush now certified Kong?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
October 08 2022 11:03 GMT
#71
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-


On October 08 2022 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-

I also forgot M3t4PhYzX ...


I got into the stream during the middle of game 4... I checked TL.net because I wanted to check the ASL final's starting time again and I suddenly saw it being live lol
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
October 08 2022 11:04 GMT
#72
On October 08 2022 20:03 Terrorbladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-


Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 19:56 prosatan wrote:
On October 08 2022 19:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
what the actual fuck....???

when was this moved from 9th to 8th?!

just brilliant.. -.-

I also forgot M3t4PhYzX ...


I got into the stream during the middle of game 4... I checked TL.net because I wanted to check the ASL final's starting time again and I suddenly saw it being live lol


I'll take responsibility for this because I noticed the error and fixed it on LP days ago while updating maps but did not update calendar.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 08 2022 11:06 GMT
#73
Gratz to Royal!!!
The Bomber boy
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
October 08 2022 11:09 GMT
#74
Luckily saw it had started a day early after just 1 game...
Nice job on Royal, I'm not the biggest fan with all his cheesy plays, but other than that he had some nice plays as well at times.
its me
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
October 08 2022 11:12 GMT
#75
so ASLCHAMPROYAL and never ASLCHAMPRUSH?
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4276 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 11:18:09
October 08 2022 11:17 GMT
#76
gonna watch the games tomorrow..

GGs..
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3296 Posts
October 08 2022 11:26 GMT
#77
Somehow viewership really plummeted this season despite the explosion of the university scene. Not even hitting 100k for the finals. Probably something to do with the players.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 08 2022 11:54 GMT
#78
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3296 Posts
October 08 2022 12:49 GMT
#79
On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.

It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship.

You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
October 08 2022 14:31 GMT
#80
On October 08 2022 20:26 TMNT wrote:
Somehow viewership really plummeted this season despite the explosion of the university scene. Not even hitting 100k for the finals. Probably something to do with the players.

I’ve followed BW since the Boxer vs Yellow days. But not even I watched this final live.
- No god (bisu, snow, light, flash, jaedong, zero, and so on)
- TvT

I prefer watching when the “gods” are playing, and I prefer TvZ, PvZ, and TvP
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-08 14:52:45
October 08 2022 14:49 GMT
#81
On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.

It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship.

You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.


honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey820 Posts
October 08 2022 16:14 GMT
#82
I was planning to come to Korea for the finals. I cancelled when it came to TVT. Caught sleep on first match. Damn finals should not be mirror match.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19383 Posts
October 08 2022 18:11 GMT
#83
On October 08 2022 20:03 prosatan wrote:
Bisudagger nailed the prediction !!!! Congrats !!!

Almost 100% predictions for ASL14! What a series. Royal played beautifully!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8082 Posts
October 09 2022 02:56 GMT
#84
Nice job Royal! GGs.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1174 Posts
October 09 2022 08:24 GMT
#85
I'm impressed the thread got so many pages of replies for a TvT.

GGs
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 09 2022 10:53 GMT
#86
Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!

I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.
May the BeSt man win.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
October 09 2022 13:38 GMT
#87
Agreed, this final was among the better ones in SC history in terms of action, skill and creativity. Royal mixed in fast-paced aggressive strats and outplayed Rush in a bo7, which is extremely hard to do.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
October 09 2022 15:03 GMT
#88
Damn Sorry is soo damn good. Nice games, he made TvT interesting to watch.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 09 2022 15:41 GMT
#89
Such an action packed TvT, RoyaL's aggression delivered! Rush's TvT is his best MU and if it goes long enough he should win but RoyaL didn't let him breathe. Well deserved, I was having high hopes for him and he did it finally!
ASLCHAMP15Rush then!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8702 Posts
October 09 2022 21:08 GMT
#90
Usually I like TvT a lot but these finals were mostly meh. So many mistakes...

On October 08 2022 23:49 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2022 21:49 TMNT wrote:
On October 08 2022 20:54 royalroadweed wrote:
Gotta eat crow. Thought Royal only made it to the finals cause of fortunate bracket luck and Rush would stomp.

It's not far from the truth tho. He did get some luck with the bracket, getting Shine in Ro8, avoiding Protoss altogether, and cheese also played a big role in his run to the championship.

You can't legitimately say he's better than any of Light, Rush, Soma, Queen, Hero, Soulkey, Bisu, Snow,... but those players knocked each other out and Royal got the better of Soulkey and Rush. in what feels like two 50/50 series. Out of the recent ASL champions, he's probably the least convincing.


honestly Royal vs Soulkey was 50/50 but I think Royal won this series convincingly. When you look at the macro games, he won most of them decisively and for the one macro game that he lost, he was in serious trouble from the early vulture tank attack but still managed to get back into a decent position before losing.


Idk, Rush played so defensively, no scouting at all. Royal "outmacroed" him because he just expanded and Rush never scouted and punished it - or expanded himself. With 5v3 bases, of course you win in the long run unless you are putting your rally point into the enemy tank line and never move it again.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51688 Posts
October 10 2022 07:14 GMT
#91
On October 09 2022 19:53 Djabanete wrote:
Surprised at all the scorn for TvT. This final delivered. Heck, most FvJ finals have been less satisfying in terms of back-and-forth between the players. Not much hype this time, but fun games to watch!

I liked how aggressive Royal’s openings were.


probably because it contained absolute no marquee players - if this was flash vs light or something no doubt they'd be more fanfare
Commentator
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
October 10 2022 15:08 GMT
#92
It was a great series. Normally despise mirror-matches. but the skill, meta and intensity was high level, hard to not enjoy it.
Was cheering for Rush to get his ASL-win finally, but Royal's strats won me over in a couple of games. Really nice variety and fully deserved winner. Congrats!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-10 19:55:43
October 10 2022 19:55 GMT
#93
GG ASL14ChampRoyal
Patasti
Profile Joined July 2020
Romania15 Posts
October 11 2022 07:44 GMT
#94
Royal had an impressive run, well done.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom252 Posts
October 12 2022 02:45 GMT
#95
A great series indeed, a pity to hear about the viewer count.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
October 12 2022 13:17 GMT
#96
RoyaL has me in awe, I love the way he plays, not afraid to mix it up and be more aggressive yet still solid on a regular game. Congrats to him on the Champion title. We finally have RoyaL Champion.

I don't mind mirror mu finals as long as it isn't PvP...
The ZvZ finals we had some seasons back was one of the best finals we've had and this TvT one was fine, not great, not bad.
And the one between Sea and Flash was pretty fun although lopsided.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
October 12 2022 13:54 GMT
#97
It was a great series but the semis were better.

What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?
Sic iter ad astra
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8702 Posts
October 12 2022 19:43 GMT
#98
On October 12 2022 22:54 ajmbek wrote:
It was a great series but the semis were better.

What do you think will Tastosis post the match before or after the end of the monh?


What's taking them so long? I personally listen to Scan and Nyoken but a friend of mine waits for Tastosis' vods. By the time he gets back to me I have forgotten 80 % about the matches, lol.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
October 12 2022 21:07 GMT
#99
Amazing to see how happy Royal was after that. Really nice series too. And don't complain, guys, just be happy it wasn't zvz...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-16 14:38:06
October 16 2022 14:36 GMT
#100
Really happy for Royal, I've been super impressed with his play and improvement over the last 1.5 years. He's been a total force in ASTL and KCM and I was just waiting for him to get over his BoX nerves and reach his potential in ASL. He definitely came to win this season with some awesome builds and series prep. Too bad he didn't get tested in TvP though.

Feel bad for Rush taking down Light just to lose to Royal haha, but I feel like he's destined to win an ASL eventually.

+ Show Spoiler [ KCM spoiler] +
how the fuck are Terran doing so bad in KCM this season when we had a TvT final lol


Free Palestine
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
October 19 2022 11:54 GMT
#101
On October 08 2022 20:26 TMNT wrote:
Somehow viewership really plummeted this season despite the explosion of the university scene. Not even hitting 100k for the finals. Probably something to do with the players.


That’s surprising, I thought this ASL was great especially the semis.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden317 Posts
October 20 2022 07:05 GMT
#102
Royal played really amazing games, the way he was using relentless pressure all over the place and mass expanding behind it was just crazy to see.

Frontal assault, drop and expanding at the same time just kept Rush off balance.

Also the way Royal did his builds and mixed in some cheese was a really nice way to keep his opponents off balance throughout the series.

I thought Soulkey actually played better games in the semis but Royal did play a better series.

In the finals I thought Royal was outplaying Rush for most of the games and it is a very well deserved ASL champion imo. Yeah, he was a bit lucky with the brackets but the way he played in the 2 big series he showed himself to be a great player.

Gonna be really interesting to see how far he goes next season and what else he is gonna do with Terran, it is rare that Terran has creative players like this.
nah
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3296 Posts
October 20 2022 13:08 GMT
#103
On October 16 2022 23:36 Ideas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [ KCM spoiler] +
how the fuck are Terran doing so bad in KCM this season when we had a TvT final lol



Rush didn't play KCM at all this season. Royal underperformed a little bit. JYJ currently on a huge slump.
And Light, seems like he hasn't been back in shape since the last ASL. Lack of practice, busy with the university thing, maybe even lack of motivation after finally winning ASL as well.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
October 21 2022 12:21 GMT
#104
On October 20 2022 16:05 Barneyk wrote:
In the finals I thought Royal was outplaying Rush for most of the games and it is a very well deserved ASL champion imo. Yeah, he was a bit lucky with the brackets but the way he played in the 2 big series he showed himself to be a great player.

Honestly, I don't think he got lucky, except for getting Shine in Ro8. Ro16 he had tough group, and Soulkey is the best zerg (or at least best ZvTer) in 2022.
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina412 Posts
October 21 2022 16:42 GMT
#105
On October 09 2022 01:14 HOLYBATS wrote:
I was planning to come to Korea for the finals. I cancelled when it came to TVT. Caught sleep on first match. Damn finals should not be mirror match.


I can't believe you have the opportunity to go to Korea and to the finals and you just pass on it. There's a lot of fans, me included, that wish to be in your position. Finals should be between the two best players. If it's a mirror matchup, so be it. The more you watch TvT, the more you appreciate it.

Anyway, Royal had superb decision making above anything else. Also it felt he was multitasking better than Rush. Well deserved victory.
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