• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:23
CEST 23:23
KST 06:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025)17[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Rejuvenation8
Community News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A Results (2025)4$1,250 WardiTV May [May 6th-May 18th]5Clem wins PiG Sty Festival #67Weekly Cups (April 28-May 4): ByuN & Astrea break through1Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game29
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins PiG Sty Festival #6 How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A Results (2025) Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group A $1,250 WardiTV May [May 6th-May 18th] SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise Mutation # 469 Frostbite
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recent recommended BW games Preserving Battlereports.com OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24
Tourneys
[BSL20] RO32 Group E - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL20] RO32 Group F - Saturday 20:00 CET [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4 [CSLPRO] $1000 Spring is Here!
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Grand Theft Auto VI Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Elon Musk's lies, propaganda, etc. US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey Surprisingly good films/Hidden Gems
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
BLinD-RawR 50K Post Watch Party The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Test Entry for subject
xumakis
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12099 users

[ASL14] Ro4 Day 2

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Normal
Recommended Games
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
75%

If you have time (2)
 
17%

No (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

No (7)
 
47%

Yes (6)
 
40%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
79%

If you have time (2)
 
14%

No (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 4?

Yes (7)
 
64%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 5?

Yes (9)
 
69%

No (2)
 
15%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 6] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 6?

Yes (17)
 
94%

No (1)
 
6%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 7] +
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 7?

Yes (12)
 
71%

If you have time (3)
 
18%

No (2)
 
12%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 04:25 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 14


Wednesday, Sep 28 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


Afreeca Starleague Season 14


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | Nyoken | Scan


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
StarCastTV(Scan and Nyoken)


Matchups and Maps



[image loading]      [image loading]
(T)Rush              (Z)hero






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +





CSS: FO-nTTaX
Banner: v1


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 04:25 GMT
#2
Poll: Who Will Win?

hero (10)
 
56%

Rush (8)
 
44%

18 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?

(Vote): Rush
(Vote): hero

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 28 2022 04:38 GMT
#3
hype?
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain592 Posts
September 28 2022 06:36 GMT
#4
Rush fightning!
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China129 Posts
September 28 2022 07:05 GMT
#5
[image loading]
Hero fightning!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
September 28 2022 09:14 GMT
#6
HYPE HYPE !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 09:46 GMT
#7
I'm conflicted. Would prefer TvZ finals, but hero knocked out Bisu...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 09:52 GMT
#8
On September 28 2022 18:46 Simplistik wrote:
I'm conflicted. Would prefer TvZ finals, but hero knocked out Bisu...

Lol. *Insert BD's bucket here*
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
September 28 2022 10:04 GMT
#9
I would like to LR a bit but I have to go in about 2 hours and miss the last games.... like yesterday
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 10:13:23
September 28 2022 10:12 GMT
#10
On September 28 2022 19:04 prosatan wrote:
I would like to LR a bit but I have to go in about 2 hours and miss the last games.... like yesterday


Commiserations! I had to stop watching 10 minutes into game + Show Spoiler +
7
yesterday...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 10:39 GMT
#11
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
75%

If you have time (2)
 
17%

No (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 10:41 GMT
#12
So, what's the moral of this story?

Don't let hero get 6 hatcheries and 4 gas unchallenged?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 10:43 GMT
#13
Am I missing exciting games? I need 20 more minutes b4 I can watch >.<
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 10:44 GMT
#14
On September 28 2022 19:41 Simplistik wrote:
So, what's the moral of this story?

Don't let hero get 6 hatcheries and 4 gas unchallenged?

Don't let drone man drone judging from his recent games
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
September 28 2022 10:51 GMT
#15
On September 28 2022 19:12 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 19:04 prosatan wrote:
I would like to LR a bit but I have to go in about 2 hours and miss the last games.... like yesterday


Commiserations! I had to stop watching 10 minutes into game + Show Spoiler +
7
yesterday...

At least you watched + Show Spoiler +
6
quality games
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 10:53 GMT
#16
On September 28 2022 19:43 Peeano wrote:
Am I missing exciting games? I need 20 more minutes b4 I can watch >.<


Some good action so far!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 28 2022 10:54 GMT
#17
Drones were like, shit we were not hired for this shit, let's go back to mining.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 10:54 GMT
#18
On September 28 2022 19:44 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 19:41 Simplistik wrote:
So, what's the moral of this story?

Don't let hero get 6 hatcheries and 4 gas unchallenged?

Don't let drone man drone judging from his recent games

Yeah, 8 rax.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 10:54 GMT
#19
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

No (7)
 
47%

Yes (6)
 
40%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 10:55 GMT
#20
On September 28 2022 19:54 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 19:44 Peeano wrote:
On September 28 2022 19:41 Simplistik wrote:
So, what's the moral of this story?

Don't let hero get 6 hatcheries and 4 gas unchallenged?

Don't let drone man drone judging from his recent games

Yeah, 8 rax.

a win is a win is a win.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 10:55 GMT
#21
ah yes arkanoid.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 10:59 GMT
#22
Odyssey and Arkanoid feel pretty lop-sided... Maybe one map like this in a season is OK, but two?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
September 28 2022 11:07 GMT
#23
This Marine micro would make Boxer proud
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:09 GMT
#24
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
79%

If you have time (2)
 
14%

No (1)
 
7%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
September 28 2022 11:10 GMT
#25
Did anybody else also get Boxer vibes? 2006 map + sick Marine micro.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21508 Posts
September 28 2022 11:13 GMT
#26
Valkyries mvp
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 11:20:39
September 28 2022 11:19 GMT
#27
Last time Rush n Hero met in the Ro4 (2 seasons ago) Rush kicked Hero 4-1
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:23 GMT
#28
I wanna see 0 lings now ^^
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:39 GMT
#29
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 4?

Yes (7)
 
64%

If you have time (3)
 
27%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:39 GMT
#30
hero already doing better than their last meeting.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:43 GMT
#31
Yup. That 8rax was a bit delayed n Hero defended it as good as he could have hoped. I was surprised he made as many lings as he did after the first 2.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:43 GMT
#32
BBS
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:44 GMT
#33
If 8rax doesn't work favorable, go BBS
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:45 GMT
#34
Seems almost like Hero was taunting with that drone dance
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:47 GMT
#35
most botched BBS I've seen in years.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:47 GMT
#36
Rofl. Rush...
FBH #1!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
September 28 2022 11:47 GMT
#37
This series is such a letdown
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 11:48 GMT
#38
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 5?

Yes (9)
 
69%

No (2)
 
15%

If you have time (2)
 
15%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 11:48 GMT
#39
Right, so what's more aggressive than BBS?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:49 GMT
#40
That was painful. I was questioning that first sunken placement, but it seems like Hero knew something Rush didn't.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 11:49 GMT
#41
On September 28 2022 20:48 Simplistik wrote:
Right, so what's more aggressive than BBS?

14cc?
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 11:52 GMT
#42
On September 28 2022 20:49 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 20:48 Simplistik wrote:
Right, so what's more aggressive than BBS?

14cc?

Haha, good shout. Maybe not on Butter though...

Time for hero to 5-pool or something?
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 28 2022 11:53 GMT
#43
On September 28 2022 20:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
This series is such a letdown


Why a letdown? Could've been yesterdays games with Soulkey not scouting it and dying... I don't feel it's all that much different. Finally an early game play from terran did not work. I mean you could argue last game the same thing happened, but that was still pretty balanced. In this case it was just gg.
its me
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
September 28 2022 12:12 GMT
#44
Please tell the score , even in spoilers
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 12:17 GMT
#45
Just now + Show Spoiler +
3-3
FBH #1!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 12:17 GMT
#46
On September 28 2022 21:12 prosatan wrote:
Please tell the score , even in spoilers

+ Show Spoiler +
3 - 3, going the distance!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 12:17 GMT
#47
Rush apologized for game 5
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 12:18 GMT
#48
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 6?

Yes (17)
 
94%

No (1)
 
6%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

18 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 12:37 GMT
#49
Poll: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 7?

Yes (12)
 
71%

If you have time (3)
 
18%

No (2)
 
12%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs hero Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49886 Posts
September 28 2022 12:37 GMT
#50
the dream is still alive boys
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 12:39 GMT
#51
Nice. So who is going to the ASL studio for the finals? + Show Spoiler +
Make sure you bring a pillow
FBH #1!
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 28 2022 12:39 GMT
#52
Man tesagi.... ridiculous... they can just do anything and still win.... No need for Flash... TvT finals gonna be fun, but damn... Rush didn't do much, just build some units, add some valkyries, thx for the win.
its me
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 12:41:24
September 28 2022 12:40 GMT
#53
GGs, congratulations to the winner!

Really hope the Grand Final will go to 7 games also
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 12:41 GMT
#54
That was some sick timing.

The Valk snipe was amazing, but the Overlords were out of position!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
September 28 2022 12:45 GMT
#55
Rush rageBBS-ing followed by winning Game 7 by making marines + valks is the most Starcraft thing ever.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1959 Posts
September 28 2022 12:47 GMT
#56
And I always thought Valkyries were terrible...
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
September 28 2022 12:54 GMT
#57
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 12:58:39
September 28 2022 12:56 GMT
#58
On September 28 2022 21:39 Kaolla wrote:
Man tesagi.... ridiculous... they can just do anything and still win.... No need for Flash... TvT finals gonna be fun, but damn... Rush didn't do much, just build some units, add some valkyries, thx for the win.

Right? People keep saying it's not Terran, it's Flash. But:
- Last 4 ASLs (without Flash), Terran took 4/8 spots in finals.
- Previous 4 ASLs (with Flash), Terran took 3/8 spots in finals, of which Flash only accounted for 1.

Also Terran about to win 7/14 of the ASLs.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
September 28 2022 12:57 GMT
#59
Thank youuu! Lb is safe cuz yesterday i was wrong
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 13:00 GMT
#60
On September 28 2022 21:54 FunkyDragoon wrote:
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals

They can still hype it though. It is not Flash TvT, so it can easily go either way.
FBH #1!
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 28 2022 13:17 GMT
#61
On September 28 2022 21:54 FunkyDragoon wrote:
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals


I think there's plenty of people who like TvT (like me).... I think it's not any worse than any other matchup and definitely the best mirror in the game.
its me
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 28 2022 13:25 GMT
#62
ASLCHAMPRush genuinely incoming.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12958 Posts
September 28 2022 13:39 GMT
#63
Bo7 TvT
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1143 Posts
September 28 2022 13:49 GMT
#64
Brutal. Bo7 TvT finals.😂
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 13:56:29
September 28 2022 13:55 GMT
#65
SK v Rush would've been an epic final. Oh well, TvT still better than ZvZ or PvP.

Didn't catch both semi matches. Both seem like a nail-biter. Which series would you recommend watching between the two?
gg no re thx
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany645 Posts
September 28 2022 14:09 GMT
#66
On September 28 2022 22:55 RKC wrote:
SK v Rush would've been an epic final. Oh well, TvT still better than ZvZ or PvP.

Didn't catch both semi matches. Both seem like a nail-biter. Which series would you recommend watching between the two?


definitely Royal vs SK
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia358 Posts
September 28 2022 14:29 GMT
#67
On September 28 2022 21:56 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 21:39 Kaolla wrote:
Man tesagi.... ridiculous... they can just do anything and still win.... No need for Flash... TvT finals gonna be fun, but damn... Rush didn't do much, just build some units, add some valkyries, thx for the win.

Right? People keep saying it's not Terran, it's Flash. But:
- Last 4 ASLs (without Flash), Terran took 4/8 spots in finals.
- Previous 4 ASLs (with Flash), Terran took 3/8 spots in finals, of which Flash only accounted for 1.

Also Terran about to win 7/14 of the ASLs.


What else is new? :D Not seeing the ingrained imbalance at the top level, that years of mapmaking have not been able to fix, is just being blind.
j.r.r.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia358 Posts
September 28 2022 14:31 GMT
#68
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.
j.r.r.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 14:41:06
September 28 2022 14:39 GMT
#69
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.
its me
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
September 28 2022 14:58 GMT
#70
where can i watch the games
https://cinesnipe.com
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia358 Posts
September 28 2022 15:05 GMT
#71
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back without a massive blunder by Z.
j.r.r.
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia358 Posts
September 28 2022 15:05 GMT
#72
On September 29 2022 00:05 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back, and he didn't even need a massive blunder by Z.

j.r.r.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States648 Posts
September 28 2022 15:06 GMT
#73
Fuck yeah, TvT BO7 finals. I will never understand people who dislike TvT. It's such a fun matchup to play and watch, there's so much strategic depth.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
September 28 2022 15:38 GMT
#74
Yeah TvT is the best mirror from a strategic point of view. It's not so fun to watch from an entertainment pov though, that goes to PvP.

ZvZ is the worst from both points of view. Sometimes you get a thrilling situation where each player ends up with less than 10 units trying to end each other. But other than that, nothing much.
PachiBW
Profile Joined October 2021
8 Posts
September 28 2022 15:52 GMT
#75
On September 29 2022 00:05 Rainalcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 23:39 Kaolla wrote:
On September 28 2022 23:31 Rainalcar wrote:
Look just the game from yesterday with a hidden factory. If that first vulture survived, it's probably a win right there. And even with that failed, and the factory destroyed, T still wins. The risk-benefit ratio for T is so incredibly good.


Soulkey messed up so many times that game though. He didn't take down the exp, when one of his guardians (he only had two, so one of the two) got irridiated he just moved it away from everything not even attacking anything.... He really fucked up that game so bad. Can't really blame tesagi for that.


I don't think it compares. One Guardian not attacking should not be enough of a mistake for T to win. Flying a muta flock over marines - sure. For the expansion, he would have lost plenty muta to turrets, and he would be in danger of a moveout to his natural.

The essence of it is, the first vulture was actually mismicroed. If it weren't, T probably wins. And even with such big mistake and a loss of tech, T came back without a massive blunder by Z.


Well, if I remember correctly, isn't that the map where Soulkey had a third base, but the third base is isolated so his military units cannot actually be built from it (except mutas)? That was a large part of the problem, he was essentially on 2 hatch production against that push.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
September 28 2022 16:25 GMT
#76
Grand Final starts 2 hours earlier than other play-off matches, right?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
September 28 2022 16:27 GMT
#77
On September 28 2022 22:17 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2022 21:54 FunkyDragoon wrote:
Afreeca execs must be disappointed, I wonder if they calculated how much money they will lose due to lower viewership for TvT finals


I think there's plenty of people who like TvT (like me).... I think it's not any worse than any other matchup and definitely the best mirror in the game.

Fully agree. I feel the same about this.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
September 28 2022 16:51 GMT
#78
This is going to be a really really tough finals for Royal. Rush has been a top level player for a while now. I enjoy both players very much, but I'm rooting for the underdog in this one.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
September 28 2022 16:54 GMT
#79
This rarely happens, but a tied vote!
[image loading]
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 17:14 GMT
#80
On September 28 2022 23:58 Broodwar4lyf wrote:
where can i watch the games

Korean: https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/92690956
English: https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/92690860 (Nyoken & Scan)
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 17:30 GMT
#81
In case you don't know how to find Afreeca VODs:
1. Go to AfreecaTV the stream page (Fetch it in the OP, and then click View on Afreeca below the stream window on the left side)
2. Click the Afreeca icon left below the stream that will say "Go to Blog" when you hover your mouse on it.
3. Click on VOD
4. Check date and choose the VOD with the longest time

1. Liquipedia ASL 14
2. Scroll down to VODs and pick your flavor

1. Google "afstar1 vods"
FBH #1!
PachiBW
Profile Joined October 2021
8 Posts
September 28 2022 17:48 GMT
#82
On September 29 2022 01:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Grand Final starts 2 hours earlier than other play-off matches, right?


Yes, October 9, 4:00 AM Eastern Time.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
September 28 2022 17:56 GMT
#83
On September 29 2022 02:48 PachiBW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2022 01:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Grand Final starts 2 hours earlier than other play-off matches, right?


Yes, October 9, 4:00 AM Eastern Time.

However, they usually take an hour to even get the games started.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 28 2022 21:03 GMT
#84
I always rooted for Rush but this time I wanted him to lose. His wins weren't really convincing and I wasn't looking forward for TvT. RoyaL's series were a lot better and I have a feeling if SK was his opponent he could chew him alive.
sunbeams are never made like me...
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1587 Posts
September 28 2022 21:09 GMT
#85
If only Hero didn't misjudge that bunker bust with drones and lings. Sending the drones back thinking the lings could finish it off might have cost him this series.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4817 Posts
September 28 2022 21:18 GMT
#86
On September 29 2022 02:56 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2022 02:48 PachiBW wrote:
On September 29 2022 01:25 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Grand Final starts 2 hours earlier than other play-off matches, right?


Yes, October 9, 4:00 AM Eastern Time.

However, they usually take an hour to even get the games started.

I bet it won't cuz it's a TvT final this time around lol
FBH #1!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 28 2022 23:02 GMT
#87
I recently watched some Rush v Royal proleague games on Mini's YouTube channel. They were highly entertaining! I think these Terrans are going to deliver great games.
May the BeSt man win.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile157 Posts
September 28 2022 23:11 GMT
#88
TvT finals!! I'm rooting for RoyaL on this one, his play style has been awesome to watch these last few seasons but on this one he stepped it up.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
September 29 2022 04:18 GMT
#89
Sorry, but Terran isn't OP.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
September 30 2022 18:19 GMT
#90
Excited for Rush, that was a NAIL biting last game (just like the other Ro4). Really curious to see how the TvT will play out in the finals.
J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
September 30 2022 21:46 GMT
#91
Hell yes, TvT finals! People shouldn't understand it, can be a crazy fun matchup a la Flash vs Sea grand finals ASL2. I'll be enjoying the hell out of this, tvt finals in BW come once in a blue moon.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7760 Posts
October 01 2022 00:20 GMT
#92
Game 7. Hero on 3 base. Defilers almost out.

"Great! TvZ finals!!!!"

10 seconds later...

"oh... "
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 04 2022 06:31 GMT
#93
Sorry havent watched BW in a while - just after the games had finished Scan mentioned a "double edged" meta that Soulkey and Zero were using that was starting to get figured out by Terrans. What strategy is this?
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
October 04 2022 07:54 GMT
#94
looks like no thread about 3rd place match. maybe admin forgot about it
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1302 Posts
October 04 2022 12:55 GMT
#95
On October 01 2022 09:20 Vasoline73 wrote:
Game 7. Hero on 3 base. Defilers almost out.

"Great! TvZ finals!!!!"

10 seconds later...

"oh... "


This. So much!
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
October 04 2022 13:54 GMT
#96
On October 04 2022 16:54 LaStScan wrote:
looks like no thread about 3rd place match. maybe admin forgot about it


when will it be?
Sic iter ad astra
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany645 Posts
October 04 2022 14:54 GMT
#97
On October 04 2022 22:54 ajmbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2022 16:54 LaStScan wrote:
looks like no thread about 3rd place match. maybe admin forgot about it


when will it be?


You‘ve got to travel 53hours back in time, then you can watch it live
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 05 2022 05:43 GMT
#98
No one gives a shit about ZvZ I guess
gg no re thx
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia358 Posts
October 05 2022 18:11 GMT
#99
Because it's a broken matchup?
j.r.r.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
October 06 2022 09:40 GMT
#100
No LB?
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Circuito Brasileiro de…
19:00
A Decisão - Playoffs D1
CosmosSc2 647
CranKy Ducklings188
EnkiAlexander 73
davetesta23
Liquipedia
BSL Season 20
18:00
RO32 - Group F
WolFix vs ZZZero
Razz vs Zazu
ZZZero.O255
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
CosmosSc2 647
Ketroc 107
ProTech93
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3694
ZZZero.O 255
firebathero 198
sSak 73
Movie 32
soO 25
Sexy 13
Dota 2
Dendi2061
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1348
Fnx 730
flusha449
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor336
Other Games
summit1g12605
Grubby4346
FrodaN3197
B2W.Neo747
crisheroes376
mouzStarbuck323
NeuroSwarm109
ViBE44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1962
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv135
angryscii 61
Other Games
BasetradeTV21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 105
• tFFMrPink 13
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 3DClanTV 42
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler138
League of Legends
• Doublelift4461
Other Games
• Scarra957
• Shiphtur336
• WagamamaTV236
Upcoming Events
Online Event
6h 37m
MaxPax vs herO
SHIN vs Cure
Clem vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs herO
ShoWTimE vs Clem
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 37m
WardiTV Invitational
13h 37m
AllThingsProtoss
13h 37m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16h 37m
Chat StarLeague
18h 37m
BSL Season 20
20h 37m
MadiNho vs dxtr13
Gypsy vs Dark
Circuito Brasileiro de…
21h 37m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
BeSt vs Light
Wardi Open
1d 13h
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Soulkey
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL Code S
3 days
ByuN vs Rogue
herO vs Cure
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
GSL Code S
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSLPRO Spring 2025
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.