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[ASL14] Ro8 Day 4
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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Szinkler
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Magic Powers
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Peeano
Netherlands5674 Posts
 That could be a great game if Snow can guess hero's build. Anyway let's hope for Snow he can beat hero before the last game... | ||
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Peeano
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Does that mean ASL didn't pick Arkanoid for Light vs Rush yesterday? A mirror match up where map imba isn't really a factor... | ||
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HOLYBATS
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prosatan
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On September 21 2022 19:16 prosatan wrote: Guys , what stream are you watching ? I cannot find the "original" one so I watch Soulkey... he's with Guemchi and they are having fun ! I'm watching this https://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1/242778393 | ||
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TMNT
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On September 21 2022 18:39 Peeano wrote: I wanna see Snow 3-2, but I don't want ASL to think maps like Arkanoid are tournament material (unless it can actually be vetoed). From the last cast I understood both players get to pick 2 maps and Afreeca decides the final map, which will be Arkanoid for today. Does that mean ASL didn't pick Arkanoid for Light vs Rush yesterday? A mirror match up where map imba isn't really a factor... The last map is randomly chosen. That said, they may not get to game 5 today... | ||
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Peeano
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Peeano
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
On September 21 2022 19:36 TMNT wrote: The last map is randomly chosen. That said, they may not get to game 5 today... 3-0 angle is too true | ||
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prosatan
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Muff2n
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TMNT
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No pressure in the early game and Protoss can't compete with Zerg's macro. | ||
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psd
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prosatan
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nojok
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
My only LB point for ro8, gg hero | ||
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Peeano
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HOLYBATS
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TMNT
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On September 21 2022 20:41 HOLYBATS wrote: Hero not known for ZvT ? He did eliminate Light on ASL12. His ZvT is def weaker than ZvP tho. Currently only 38% vs Rush. 3W 10L record since July. It's funny that Soulkey and Hero knocked down Bisu and Snow, who are more likely to beat Royal and Rush than themselves. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On September 21 2022 20:58 TMNT wrote: His ZvT is def weaker than ZvP tho. Currently only 38% vs Rush. 3W 10L record since July. It's funny that Soulkey and Hero knocked down Bisu and Snow, who are more likely to beat Royal and Rush than themselves. The original balance theory of Z>>P>T The reason T does well is because Ps get eliminated by Zs | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13430 Posts
But holy shit was that a disappointing performance from Snow given how he crushed his PvZ group previously. | ||
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outscar
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My only hope to not see herO vs. SK ZvZ finals... | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On September 21 2022 20:38 Peeano wrote: Well then. 2 zergs who are not known for their ZvT in the semis up against 2 of the current top 3 Terrans. I wonder who will receive practice help from Light. Soulkey has been practicing with Light recently. VODs can be found on Home of Starcraft. I think they are practicing with each other since they would only play if they were in the finals. | ||
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DiMiaN
Finland306 Posts
On September 21 2022 23:18 Mutaller wrote: Soulkey has been practicing with Light recently. VODs can be found on Home of Starcraft. I think they are practicing with each other since they would only play if they were in the finals. Wasn't that one ladder game only? | ||
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staatbauhaus
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RKC
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Sad that Snow lost  | ||
BisuDagger
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angry_maia
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On September 21 2022 21:33 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: The original balance theory of Z>>P>T The reason T does well is because Ps get eliminated by Zs Slight addendum: Z >> P > T = Z. However Flash >> P, Z, T, which gets conflated into T>Z and T=P. | ||
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prion_
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On September 21 2022 23:48 staatbauhaus wrote: Light claims Soulkey has the best ZvT out of all the zergs SK went 8-1 against Light in Ultimate Battle earlier this year so that makes sense. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On September 22 2022 01:42 angry_maia wrote: Slight addendum: Z >> P > T = Z. However Flash >> P, Z, T, which gets conflated into T>Z and T=P. Can’t argue with that. Imo Flash skews racial stats more than any progamer. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, but I’ve looked at numbers and its ridiculous. | ||
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Hitokiri3
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Hero is a monster | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On September 21 2022 20:38 Peeano wrote: Well then. 2 zergs who are not known for their ZvT in the semis up against 2 of the current top 3 Terrans. I wonder who will receive practice help from Light. Soulkey not known for ZvT? | ||
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plast1c
Germany101 Posts
On September 22 2022 02:06 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Can’t argue with that. Imo Flash skews racial stats more than any progamer. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, but I’ve looked at numbers and its ridiculous. He may have heavily skewed stats but he is just one person, that means playing only a few of all games played. Shouldn't his stats be drowned when considering all games in total? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
whatever.. a very interesting top 4 field at least. refreshing. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On September 22 2022 03:08 plast1c wrote: He may have heavily skewed stats but he is just one person, that means playing only a few of all games played. Shouldn't his stats be drowned when considering all games in total? No you are right, I should have qualified that its the skew to the number of individual league titles won by a race that Flash has tilted more than any other player. There is simply too many overall games for a single player to impact. But in the mindset of fans, its the championship runs that really stick out and impact our perception of racial balance. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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angry_maia
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On September 22 2022 03:08 plast1c wrote: He may have heavily skewed stats but he is just one person, that means playing only a few of all games played. Shouldn't his stats be drowned when considering all games in total? You're right if we look at all games played, but I'm talking more about perception than raw statistics. People pay way more attention to the results of tournaments than they do total games played on sponbbang, and in tournament play Flash easily skews the "stats." | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On September 22 2022 04:27 angry_maia wrote: You're right if we look at all games played, but I'm talking more about perception than raw statistics. People pay way more attention to the results of tournaments than they do total games played on sponbbang, and in tournament play Flash easily skews the "stats." lol you pretty much said the same thing I did Funny thing is, in the “modern” era of starcraft, T isnt even ahead in gold count, its still Z. My data isnt updated, but at worst lets say its a tie. The only explanation for Tesagi is that Flash’s wins are so dominating that T still comes off as OP. | ||
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Lazyer
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Galacsia
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Hitokiri3
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On September 22 2022 04:45 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: lol you pretty much said the same thing I did Funny thing is, in the “modern” era of starcraft, T isnt even ahead in gold count, its still Z. My data isnt updated, but at worst lets say its a tie. The only explanation for Tesagi is that Flash’s wins are so dominating that T still comes off as OP. I always knew Z was the best race | ||
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moktira
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HOLYBATS
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reincremate
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2_2
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Peeano
Netherlands5674 Posts
On September 22 2022 07:11 Galacsia wrote: You guys need to stop hyping Snow up and start respecting Hero a little more, the guy keeps doing well in most ASLs he's been in. Snow in general is just way more exciting to watch than drone man. Both players still have to prove themselves by coming an ASL champ. Snow has gotten to the final twice, and hero once. The hype is completely legit. It's up to Hero to earn more respect by giving us better shows and/or getting better results | ||
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Piste
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On September 22 2022 17:22 Peeano wrote: Snow in general is just way more exciting to watch than drone man. Both players still have to prove themselves by coming an ASL champ. Snow has gotten to the final twice, and hero once. The hype is completely legit. It's up to Hero to earn more respect by giving us better shows and/or getting better results Depends on what you like. I enjoy watching hero's ZvP way more than Snow's PvZ. He is on another skill level in the match up a the results showed. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On September 22 2022 17:22 Peeano wrote: Snow in general is just way more exciting to watch than drone man. Both players still have to prove themselves by coming an ASL champ. Snow has gotten to the final twice, and hero once. The hype is completely legit. It's up to Hero to earn more respect by giving us better shows and/or getting better results Didnt Snow beat Flash to win it all? | ||
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2_2
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HOLYBATS
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
 AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On September 23 2022 10:20 reincremate wrote: Liquipedia is a good resource. https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/AfreecaTV_StarCraft_League_Remastered Liquipedia is goated with the sauce | ||
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tankgirl
Canada478 Posts
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Ideas
United States8173 Posts
Not sure who I would pick in either semifinal but I really hope we get a ZvT final, it's been a while. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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Ideas
United States8173 Posts
On September 26 2022 18:33 TornadoSteve wrote: Been a while but TT never happened we don't need it though especially after getting rush vs light which felt like the real battle for current top TvTer. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On September 26 2022 18:33 TornadoSteve wrote: Been a while but TT never happened Didn't Flash beat Sea in an ASL final, AfreecaTV StarCraft League Brood War/2Yup. Oh, and Best and JD in 3rd/4th :-) | ||
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Ruff
Kazakhstan179 Posts
On September 21 2022 16:34 Ruff wrote: Snow will win. I was wrong. | ||
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