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BLinD-RawR
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September 13 2022 06:14 GMT
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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
September 13 2022 06:43 GMT
#2
Royal Fightning!
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
258 Posts
September 13 2022 08:22 GMT
#3
It's BO5? or 7?
v1
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Estonia800 Posts
September 13 2022 08:41 GMT
#4
On September 13 2022 17:22 maybe wrote:
It's BO5? or 7?


bo5
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 09:30 GMT
#5
Let's go, Shine! You gotta win at least 1 game to show your worth for making it into Ro8.

I'm hoping for a 3-2 either way. If I interpret BD correctly that means Shine will have to win the first 2 games for that to happen.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 10:31 GMT
#6
Poll: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 1?

Yes (9)
 
82%

No (1)
 
9%

If you have time (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-13 10:33:38
September 13 2022 10:33 GMT
#7
Greedy by Shine to both have a late queens nest and also pump drones. At that point it was a must to force at least another scan along the way after he sniped the 1st vessel successfully, which he didn't do :/
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 10:34 GMT
#8
Wp by Royal though. That was a great timing attack.
FBH #1!
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain351 Posts
September 13 2022 10:36 GMT
#9
I think he wanted to force another scan but he had no room anymore in the back for those lurkers, and RoyaL played it perfectly
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 10:39 GMT
#10
I mean after that great damage to the main with mutas it is kinda of disrepectful to drone when you know it is close spawn and 5rax +1. I do think that was more Shine's fault than Royal's brilliance.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 10:41 GMT
#11
The map now... This should at least be interesting.

Btw it is such a great viewer experience to have an excited crowd present again.
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 10:45 GMT
#12
repair good unit.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 10:47 GMT
#13
Poll: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 2?

Yes (9)
 
56%

If you have time (7)
 
44%

No (0)
 
0%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 10:48 GMT
#14
oh boy its going to be a 1 hour broadcast isn't it...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 10:54 GMT
#15
but this commercial though, why would you ever watch BW in portrait mode
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 10:55 GMT
#16
Did (Z)Shine ever pull a reverse sweep in a Bo5 vs Terran?
I'm afraid he is doomed and BD got his prediction right again ^^
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 10:57 GMT
#17
On September 13 2022 19:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
but this commercial though, why would you ever watch BW in portrait mode

4:3 is the only way.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 11:00 GMT
#18
You did NOT cancel your 12h even after scouting the 8rax. Bro...
FBH #1!
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
September 13 2022 11:02 GMT
#19
smh
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 11:02 GMT
#20
Poll: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 3?

No (11)
 
69%

Yes (3)
 
19%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Royal vs Shine Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 13 2022 11:02 GMT
#21
Whelp, that was quick
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 13 2022 11:03 GMT
#22
wow, shine way too confident/greedy there, that has to be one of the fastest asl games (and bo5 matches) ever
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
September 13 2022 11:03 GMT
#23
the series is over and we just went over an hour on broadcast time.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain351 Posts
September 13 2022 11:05 GMT
#24
When your gamestyle is to be too greedy and you face someone who is actually good, this happens :/
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
September 13 2022 11:05 GMT
#25
i was watching game 1 while multitasking. glance back over at the stream after getting distracted and it's already over. lmao
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
September 13 2022 11:13 GMT
#26
I won't be rooting for Shine for a while anymore. That was an abysmal Ro8 performance
The overall decision making based on his intel was just inexcusable.
FBH #1!
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
September 13 2022 11:17 GMT
#27
On September 13 2022 20:13 Peeano wrote:
I won't be rooting for Shine for a while anymore. That was an abysmal Ro8 performance
The overall decision making based on his intel was just inexcusable.


I more blame the ASL format for the group selection. it's way too easy for the champion to stack his group with the 3 worst players, resulting in one making it to the ro8 and wasting a match.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-13 11:43:41
September 13 2022 11:18 GMT
#28
On September 13 2022 20:05 SpaNiarD wrote:
When your gamestyle is to be too greedy and you face someone who is actually good, this happens :/

His gamestyle was like he was playing Ro32. He disrespected Royal or either is so scared to face Royal straight on that he needs that greed to work in his favor in order to get a win in. That's just not the attitude you can have going into the Ro8.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-13 14:31:23
September 13 2022 11:26 GMT
#29
On September 13 2022 20:17 Marl wrote:
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On September 13 2022 20:13 Peeano wrote:
I won't be rooting for Shine for a while anymore. That was an abysmal Ro8 performance
The overall decision making based on his intel was just inexcusable.


I more blame the ASL format for the group selection. it's way too easy for the champion to stack his group with the 3 worst players, resulting in one making it to the ro8 and wasting a match.

He is still a progamer with a ton of experience and decent success. Definitely the strongest of the weakest 3. He actually made Light have to work for it, so Shine entering into the Ro8 wasn't undeserved. Also factor in that Shine was playing ZvT again. He could literally have practiced solely ZvT for weeks and then he shows up with this performance.
FBH #1!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
September 13 2022 11:33 GMT
#30
lol, lmao even
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19326 Posts
September 13 2022 13:42 GMT
#31
As expected again. Thanks Shine!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
September 13 2022 13:52 GMT
#32
ugh......

pain.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
September 13 2022 13:53 GMT
#33
probably top3 of the worst play-off series i've seen tbh
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 13 2022 13:59 GMT
#34
Royal is a beast at this point, so this was very expected. Next round will be very interesting.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 13 2022 15:44 GMT
#35
JD died for this. Greedy, bad decision making on top of poor micro. RoyaL is beast but Shine played twice bad, games didn't even go to mid game once.
sunbeams are never made like me...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8603 Posts
September 13 2022 16:25 GMT
#36
On September 14 2022 00:44 outscar wrote:
JD died for this. Greedy, bad decision making on top of poor micro. RoyaL is beast but Shine played twice bad, games didn't even go to mid game once.

.... JD.....
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19326 Posts
September 13 2022 16:47 GMT
#37
Royal said he's done playing Zerg, but he still only has one map loss. Plus, Soulkey ZvT is always something to marvel at. I think it would be a true test of his ZvT skills.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 13 2022 20:36 GMT
#38
On September 14 2022 01:47 BisuDagger wrote:
Royal said he's done playing Zerg, but he still only has one map loss. Plus, Soulkey ZvT is always something to marvel at. I think it would be a true test of his ZvT skills.


No way SK survives Bisu, especially considering his current form. I honestly think this really going to be Light vs. Bisu finals (rematch of semi's from last season).
sunbeams are never made like me...
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
September 13 2022 21:13 GMT
#39
Terrible series, but fully expected. Royal seemed really shaky in game 1, but the difference in skill was too big overall.
SK is a favourite against Bisu. He's ranked #1 in spon games and has a 10-6 record head to head the last 3 months -- Beyond that, the maps are actually pretty damn good for ZvP (not quite as good as for TvZ, but close). The only thing that speaks against SK is that he's a habitual disappointment and a massive choker -- but to be fair, Bisu is guilty of both of those in the post-Kespa era too.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
September 13 2022 21:25 GMT
#40
This did not look like Ro8 series... geez. Hope tomorrow is better

On September 14 2022 00:44 outscar wrote:
JD died for this. Greedy, bad decision making on top of poor micro. RoyaL is beast but Shine played twice bad, games didn't even go to mid game once.


LOOOL too real.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3131 Posts
September 13 2022 22:22 GMT
#41
On September 14 2022 05:36 outscar wrote:
No way SK survives Bisu, especially considering his current form. I honestly think this really going to be Light vs. Bisu finals (rematch of semi's from last season).

He 8-2 Bisu last week so there are certainly more ways.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 13 2022 23:48 GMT
#42
Wow 8-2 looks brutal. Didn't know SK was that dominating on sponmatches. Guess we'll wait and see. But pls don't let it be 3-0 in same fashion.
sunbeams are never made like me...
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
September 14 2022 07:27 GMT
#43
Man that was disappointing, I enjoy watching Shine for his non-straight-up completely off-the-wall play-style. Watching him try to play standard and getting his ass quickly handed to him was not fun for anyone. Big let down, hope the next few matches are a higher standard. Come on Bisu, I believe in you!
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