• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:35
CEST 19:35
KST 02:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1719 users

[ASL14] Ro16 Group B

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Normal
Recommended Games
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

Yes (7)
 
70%

If you have time (3)
 
30%

No (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs Rush?

Yes (8)
 
89%

No (1)
 
11%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend BeSt vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 1?

Yes (9)
 
90%

No (1)
 
10%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 2?

If you have time (5)
 
63%

Yes (2)
 
25%

No (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 3?

Yes (10)
 
83%

No (2)
 
17%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

No (6)
 
67%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (1)
 
11%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
skip

+ Show Spoiler [Final Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

Yes (11)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

Yes (4)
 
50%

No (4)
 
50%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

No (5)
 
50%

If you have time (3)
 
30%

Yes (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 04:38 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 14


Wednesday, Aug 31 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


Afreeca Starleague Season 14


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | Nyoken | Scan


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
StarCastTV(Scan and Nyoken)


Matchups and Maps



[image loading]      [image loading]
(P)Bisu              (T)sSak
[image loading]      [image loading]
(T)Rush              (P)Best






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +





CSS: FO-nTTaX
Banner: v1


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
August 31 2022 06:00 GMT
#2
hype. bisu and best fighting!
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
August 31 2022 06:09 GMT
#3
Six Dragons for the win!
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
August 31 2022 06:17 GMT
#4
Gogo Bisu and Best!
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey770 Posts
August 31 2022 06:39 GMT
#5
Protoss fighting!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
August 31 2022 08:05 GMT
#6
Bisu & BeSt FIGHTING ! ! !
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
542 Posts
August 31 2022 08:20 GMT
#7
PvT Slugfest!

Dream comes true:
Bisu beats Ssak
Rush beats Best
Bisu Beats Rush after 3 games
Best beats Ssak after 3 games
Best beats Rush after 3 games

Orgasmic ejaculations all over the fields of Allegro.
Broodwar Forever
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
August 31 2022 09:59 GMT
#8
My predictions: Best, Bisu.
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 09:59 GMT
#9
Let's go!!!!
LB: Bisu and Rush
My heart: Bisu and Best
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
August 31 2022 10:05 GMT
#10
dunno exactly why, but i predicted Best / Rush for my LB
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:11 GMT
#11
Scan translating the interview now says the online score between Best and Rush is heavily favored in Best (2:1). But offline is offline! I wonder if that makes Rush more incentivized to try to end the game early.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:13 GMT
#12
Best and Bisu are getting a little shit for not adapting to the trendy meta led by Mini and Snow, with Bisu especially being more conservative and old school.

This is true. Bisu's PvT decision-making has never been amazing. He overwhelms you with mechanics. Nothing wrong with that, though -- mechanics matter a ton in Brood War.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:20 GMT
#13
sSak with some university honeys rooting for him. Where are Bisu's fangirls?
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:21 GMT
#14
Bad news for Bisu: 12 nexus scouted first.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 10:21 GMT
#15
what is sSak doing ?!?
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:21 GMT
#16
Nyoken pointing out sSak's rax is half-a-marine faster than normal.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:22 GMT
#17
Bisu's perfect surround on the first marine...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:22 GMT
#18
2 marines get in the bunker.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:23 GMT
#19
BISU KILLS THE BUNKER!!!!
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:23 GMT
#20
Audience with multiple loud gasps. BISU THE GOD!
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:24 GMT
#21
This happens a lot when lesser players play top tier pros offline: they choke. sSak definitely looks like he's choking.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 10:24 GMT
#22
Scan's stream is way off... with about 30 seconds delay..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:24 GMT
#23
There's no way sSak can win this game.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:25 GMT
#24
Bisu going DTs to hard counter any potential bio.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:26 GMT
#25
sSak lost like... I dunno, 5 SCVs? 6 SCVs? That + failed 12nex bust = 0% chance of winning.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:27 GMT
#26
Could sSak have played a worse game? My God.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 10:27 GMT
#27
I may have said it before in a different way but Bisu vs sSak is mentally the worst match I could think of watching, if only both could lose lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:29 GMT
#28
Scan and Nyoken trying to talk us into a potential comeback. Yeah, don't see it. Bisu's attack on the 3rd should end the game.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:30 GMT
#29
Okay, on cue Bisu throws away two shuttles and a Reaver. Um, okay? Why?
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:31 GMT
#30
Still trying to talk us into this being a game. Just because sSak has 3 bases doesn't mean his economy is great. His early game eco was trash, so he had no economic momentum. Bisu can just take the whole map.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:32 GMT
#31
Bisu's attack decimates sSak and that's that. Bisu can just a-move spam units and win.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 10:33 GMT
#32
gg...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 10:33 GMT
#33
this is over

when you can walk templar to your third with no worries and just storm like no problem its over
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 10:33 GMT
#34
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

Yes (7)
 
70%

If you have time (3)
 
30%

No (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs sSak?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-31 10:35:08
August 31 2022 10:34 GMT
#35
Heavy Terran bias from Nyoken. No, dude, there was no chance sSak ever had a chance after how badly he botched the beginning. He's been trying to talk up sSak from the beginning of the cast. sSak is a decent little Terran who cannot compete against the heavy hitters. Come on now.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:38 GMT
#36
Best's PvT isn't as great as it used to be. It's good. It's not scary or anything. I feel like he's pretty one-dimensional in PvT. He also runs into mines like a complete idiot almost every game.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-31 10:43:00
August 31 2022 10:42 GMT
#37
Best is getting Goon range. Rush will scout him last.

EDIT: I could've swore I saw range. Actually he's not getting range.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:43 GMT
#38
Bleh, Best lets the SCV get in. Definitely a mistake, you should block the SCV when they scout you last.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:44 GMT
#39
See, I knew Best cancelled range! He got it again once the SCV got in, then he canceled it once he killed the SCV and immediately gets a Citadel.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:44 GMT
#40
I don't think this DT drop will work.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:45 GMT
#41
Well, no ebay or academy yet...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:45 GMT
#42
Rush, true to his name is being super aggressive, but this push gets stopped by a DT...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:46 GMT
#43
Rush isn't going to die but he's going to take heavy damage.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:47 GMT
#44
Oh my God, this is a disaster for Rush.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:47 GMT
#45
NO MINING IN RUSH'S MAIN! MY GOOOOOOD
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:47 GMT
#46
Best is only now warping in his 3rd at 8 minutes...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:48 GMT
#47
Best is going to have a powerful army. Researching +1 attack with arbiter tech.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:49 GMT
#48
This is Best's mojo: he loves a powerful army he can reinforce with massive macro. He has the significant eco lead. Hard to see Rush winning this.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:49 GMT
#49
Rush going for a desperate push. When it fails, he'll gg.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 10:50 GMT
#50
amazing zealot bombing !!!!1

GG Best !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:50 GMT
#51
LMAOOOO, Rush is BARELY puttting down his 3rd and 4th factory now! WE'RE 11 MINUTES INTO THE GAME!!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 10:50 GMT
#52
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs Rush?

Yes (8)
 
89%

No (1)
 
11%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend BeSt vs Rush?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:50 GMT
#53
gg
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 10:51 GMT
#54
Mirror matches incoming!
Let's go Bisu and Best !
Protoss Fighting!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 10:59 GMT
#55
The two most beautiful Protosses battling it out for the right to make it through the Ro8 first! You love to see it!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:10 GMT
#56
I've been watching korean BW for 15 years now, still have a blast at watching Bisu losing in annoying ways.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:10 GMT
#57
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 1?

Yes (9)
 
90%

No (1)
 
10%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:17 GMT
#58
I don't care who wins -- prefer Best but love 'em both -- and PvP is pretty boring. The best of the mirrors, but all the mirrors are pretty boring.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:19 GMT
#59
Looks like we're going to G3.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:20 GMT
#60
Fantasy gg timing here.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:21 GMT
#61
bah
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:21 GMT
#62
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 2?

If you have time (5)
 
63%

Yes (2)
 
25%

No (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:21 GMT
#63
These games kinda suck, to be honest.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:23 GMT
#64
Can we get one good long macro game? Yeesh.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:23 GMT
#65
On August 31 2022 20:21 AttheDriveIn wrote:
These games kinda suck, to be honest.


its pvp.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5358 Posts
August 31 2022 11:25 GMT
#66
Just tuning in. It seems like I didn't miss anything so far? TvT after this :/
FBH #1!
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:26 GMT
#67
On August 31 2022 20:25 Peeano wrote:
Just tuning in. It seems like I didn't miss anything so far? TvT after this :/

Nope, all the games were pretty bad. The only hope is the Final match.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:26 GMT
#68
On August 31 2022 20:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2022 20:21 AttheDriveIn wrote:
These games kinda suck, to be honest.


its pvp.

The only thing worse than PvP is TvT, and the only thing worse than TvT is ZvZ.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:27 GMT
#69
Another friggin DT build... ugh.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:28 GMT
#70
DT hard counters 3 gate goon...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:29 GMT
#71
Bisu actually comes out ahead here.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:30 GMT
#72
Nevermind... Bisu will lose his nat.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:31 GMT
#73
And now Bisu cancels the 4th gateway? That's weird...
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:32 GMT
#74
What the hell, where are Best's DTs?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 11:32 GMT
#75
Poll: Recommend Winners Game Set 3?

Yes (10)
 
83%

No (2)
 
17%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:33 GMT
#76
Looked like Best was going to win. But he pulled defeat from the jaws of victory. At least he's guaranteed a Bo3 PvT. Expecting him to buster out like always, though.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 11:38 GMT
#77
I am glad Bisu won because I believe Best has a better PvT than him.

Come on Best, you can win vs any terran !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 11:38 GMT
#78
Goddamn, can't believe I have to sit through a Bo3 TvT. Might fall asleep. The good news is at least Nyoken and Scan will be more interested and knowledgeable. Nyoken is usually amazing but he's been pretty meh today. That and at least sSak and Rush are entertaining players.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3135 Posts
August 31 2022 11:39 GMT
#79
Snow looking at these guys in disgust: "it's PvP and you guys couldn't show the audience some reaver micro?"


SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
August 31 2022 11:42 GMT
#80
I remember Idra describing PvP as players throwing imba crap at one another :D :D
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:04 GMT
#81
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

No (6)
 
67%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 12:13 GMT
#82
sSak ... so bad these games
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:13 GMT
#83
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (1)
 
11%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:14 GMT
#84
well if nothing else

ssak has been eliminated.

I wanted both BeSt and Rush to advance.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:25 GMT
#85
SCV disco!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 12:26 GMT
#86
Another DT build. What's the Protoss equivalent of Ogre Zerg Gamer? That's what this is.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:32 GMT
#87
why is best going for gimmick plays today?

just be macro smesh best.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:38 GMT
#88
thats more like it, solid recall.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:42 GMT
#89
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

Yes (11)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
August 31 2022 12:43 GMT
#90
Classic Best macro PvT
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:44 GMT
#91
general lack of EMPs
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 12:46 GMT
#92
alright game 2 on butter 2: still can't believe its butter.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
47 Posts
August 31 2022 12:46 GMT
#93
Best toying with Rush, who plays his usual predictable macro sitting-duck style.
These recalls are almost BM lol
Easy game for Doh Jae Wooki
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-31 13:03:09
August 31 2022 13:02 GMT
#94
This map looks very hard for protoss against terran. On the other hand, it seems great for carreers.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
August 31 2022 13:05 GMT
#95
ugh...
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
47 Posts
August 31 2022 13:05 GMT
#96
Jae Wook ssibal.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 13:05 GMT
#97
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

Yes (4)
 
50%

No (4)
 
50%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
August 31 2022 13:06 GMT
#98
Nice fast counterattack from Rush into contain and win.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4246 Posts
August 31 2022 13:18 GMT
#99
absolutely disgusting
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 13:18 GMT
#100
Best....noooo
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 13:18 GMT
#101
wack ass map
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8609 Posts
August 31 2022 13:18 GMT
#102
1 game away....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 13:19 GMT
#103
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

No (5)
 
50%

If you have time (3)
 
30%

Yes (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 13:20 GMT
#104
ah well, since I doubt there'll be another ASL this year or at least not until late december at the earliest, see you next year BeSt.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
August 31 2022 13:20 GMT
#105
Good showing from ASL Champion123 Rush.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 13:21 GMT
#106
On August 31 2022 22:20 reincremate wrote:
Good showing from ASL Champion123 Rush.


I still believe.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19327 Posts
August 31 2022 16:55 GMT
#107
Easy Predictions. Get that DT filth out of here BeSt!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
August 31 2022 16:59 GMT
#108
LETS GO BISUUUUUUUU
sad best lost though. I will forever cheer for skt1 tosses
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
August 31 2022 16:59 GMT
#109
The King of Busters.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 31 2022 17:16 GMT
#110
On September 01 2022 01:55 BisuDagger wrote:
Easy Predictions. Get that DT filth out of here BeSt!

Bruh.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 31 2022 17:51 GMT
#111
Oof, I'm always sad to see Best get eliminated. That was a very tough group, though, and he played some good games.
Congratulations to Bisu and Rush.
May the BeSt man win.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-31 18:29:01
August 31 2022 18:28 GMT
#112
there were like 2 no DT protoss games in the whole group xD (or was it just one? I got confused a bit haha)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey770 Posts
August 31 2022 18:42 GMT
#113
Rush deserved more.Best played so poor on the last 2 games. There is a good chance Light vs Rush on the next round.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
August 31 2022 19:47 GMT
#114
On September 01 2022 02:51 Djabanete wrote:
Oof, I'm always sad to see Best get eliminated. That was a very tough group, though, and he played some good games.
Congratulations to Bisu and Rush.



Best just cannot help himself, the performance is nothing like spongames. With all the bad things In both starcraft and his personal life it feels so bad to see Best drop out like this...
it's not just a music it's something else
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
August 31 2022 20:40 GMT
#115
Amazing how Best can always fuck up. He was clearly the better player, just manages to lose... How is it even possible... But yea, only he himself is to blame for it. He could've won this series so easlily especially after the 1-0 lead...
its me
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
September 01 2022 02:03 GMT
#116
I'm heartbroken for best. Hard to not blame him for betting it all on a DT-rush, but I'm still sad. He's just so good and yet never performs well in ASL.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 01 2022 02:32 GMT
#117
Honestly, I'm always relieved when Best goes out early. His Ro8 matches are awful when he does make it, though I guess the series vs Mini was at least funny.

But don't worry, I'll get in on the pain when Snow gets absolutely crushed in the next group.
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
September 01 2022 06:15 GMT
#118
On September 01 2022 05:40 Kaolla wrote:
Amazing how Best can always fuck up. He was clearly the better player, just manages to lose... How is it even possible... But yea, only he himself is to blame for it. He could've won this series so easlily especially after the 1-0 lead...


If he was the better player, he would've won.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey770 Posts
September 01 2022 06:47 GMT
#119
Online Best>Rush offline it is the reverse.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13365 Posts
September 01 2022 06:53 GMT
#120
I reckon Bisu might be the only P in the ro8. Snow and Mini’s groups are so hard
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-01 07:01:50
September 01 2022 07:01 GMT
#121
On September 01 2022 15:47 HOLYBATS wrote:
Online Best>Rush offline it is the reverse.


This is like saying, "The student is excellent in practice tests, but is terrible during the real test!"

If you can't perform consistently under pressure, then it's not really skill.

And it's not like Best is particularly dominant in KCM or Ultimate Battle or anything. He admitted in the Ro24 interviews he was not a true contender to win this season. And he was right.

When someone shows you who they are, believe 'em. I love Best, but he's not a winner. He's a great No 2 or No 3 but you can't have him as your No 1 guy and expect to go anywhere.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5358 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-01 08:13:29
September 01 2022 08:12 GMT
#122
Best is hardly ever a player you wanna bet on.
When he didn't throw away his sairs carelessly a few years ago for just 2 games, he was immediately credited for it in an interview. It was very not Best like. People got excited. Would Best, like Light and Mini finally find a break through where he is ready to fight for the crown? Nope... his improved-self lasted like 1 or 2 more games.

Best is a good guy to have on your team, but I can't root for him in a tournament setting unless he is up against Flash.
Maybe he can talk with Snow and Mini to get the enlightment he desperately need. It's some sort of insecurity he has that he needs to overcome on top of putting in the work.

Perhaps next ASL? I doubt it :/
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3135 Posts
September 01 2022 12:27 GMT
#123
Best's peak was 1-2 years ago when shuttle play in PvT was trendy. He's not gonna improve suddenly at 33 years of age. Plus, he's more focused nowadays on running his Starcraft academy. Didn't even pratice much for this ASL. His number of spongames started dwindling down very fast since the last ASL. In fact he seems content with finishing in the Ro16 this time, compared to last season where he almost retired from ASL after his exit.

AttheDriveIn
Profile Joined August 2022
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-01 21:00:14
September 01 2022 20:58 GMT
#124
On September 01 2022 21:27 TMNT wrote:
Best's peak was 1-2 years ago when shuttle play in PvT was trendy. He's not gonna improve suddenly at 33 years of age. Plus, he's more focused nowadays on running his Starcraft academy. Didn't even pratice much for this ASL. His number of spongames started dwindling down very fast since the last ASL. In fact he seems content with finishing in the Ro16 this time, compared to last season where he almost retired from ASL after his exit.



Agreed. You can tell the fire's not there. Not that I blame him in any way -- he's always a legend and always will be. I kept my expectations intentionally low.

I think he's really underrated vZ now though. He's lost a lot of vT skill and gained a lot of vZ skill. He has some of the most unique mid-game timings of any PvZ, and is excellent at finishing the game off before late game Zerg makes it almost impossible for P to win.

One of the biggest weaknesses I see with him vs Mini is the early game. Mini's early game is insane, leveraging his micro. Best's early game micro isn't anything special, though. The current meta is all about P being really good early game, leveraging your first couple of Zealots, and he doesn't do that well.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 02 2022 17:11 GMT
#125
Did BeSt choke this time or not? I think if he played solid macro game without shuttle shenanigans he could advance. But can't blame that much him, last two maps were hard for toss. In other hand, even though I like Rush and want him to win ASL he wasn't that solid tbh, I don't see him winning this ASL with so many stacked groups.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
September 03 2022 03:29 GMT
#126
On September 03 2022 02:11 outscar wrote:
Did BeSt choke this time or not? I think if he played solid macro game without shuttle shenanigans he could advance. But can't blame that much him, last two maps were hard for toss. In other hand, even though I like Rush and want him to win ASL he wasn't that solid tbh, I don't see him winning this ASL with so many stacked groups.


Butter is tossmap no doubt. But nemesis seems quite good for tvp regarding recent spongames and extremely bad for toss. It was coined as Carrier-sair-reaver-map but those additional paths seem to be detrimental (moreso in pvz) for protoss.

I still argue this was a choke from Best, even in sylphid- game he had a lot of bad trades, it just looks nothing like how he handles Rush in spongames.
it's not just a music it's something else
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 268
LamboSC2 236
elazer 155
Codebar 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4018
Sea 2664
Mini 368
Soulkey 217
Shuttle 199
actioN 199
Hyuk 152
ggaemo 146
Dewaltoss 142
hero 125
[ Show more ]
Shinee 50
scan(afreeca) 45
sorry 44
Aegong 39
Hyun 34
HiyA 27
GoRush 13
Dota 2
Gorgc7761
qojqva1747
Counter-Strike
fl0m3846
byalli263
kRYSTAL_26
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK20
Other Games
gofns16476
Grubby2827
Liquid`RaSZi1212
FrodaN1068
B2W.Neo660
Beastyqt568
Hui .141
ArmadaUGS121
KnowMe112
C9.Mang0110
Livibee90
RotterdaM42
Mew2King39
QueenE38
Trikslyr33
mouzStarbuck5
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL28197
Other Games
BasetradeTV1139
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 27
• Azhi_Dahaki18
• blackmanpl 14
• Michael_bg 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV534
• lizZardDota257
League of Legends
• Nemesis4639
• TFBlade966
Other Games
• imaqtpie514
• Shiphtur248
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
6h 25m
WardiTV Team League
17h 25m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 16h
WardiTV Team League
1d 17h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 21h
BSL
2 days
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
3 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.