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[ASL13] Ro8 Day 1
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BLinD-RawR
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sysen
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(Pure hypothesis based on absolutely nothing :-) ) | ||
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Sirris
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PS Yay Nyoken is back. Nothing against Legoman. | ||
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Sirris
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emperorchampion
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emperorchampion
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HOLYBATS
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emperorchampion
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Sirris
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Sirris
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Really great openings from both players to be honest. Rush ahead. | ||
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Sirris
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emperorchampion
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LpTraxamillion
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Still a good chance Rush can run 3 games back. Great backstab putting Rush all in with Lurkers morphing in just in time | ||
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emperorchampion
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emperorchampion
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I think we're in for a quick one today, let's see if rush can make something happen | ||
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Sirris
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LpTraxamillion
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emperorchampion
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Katkishka
United States649 Posts
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emperorchampion
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
Terran should build another bunker or wall-in by scvs at his ramp to win game 3. | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
On March 16 2022 20:09 Xeln4g4 wrote: One of the worst serie i can remember ... didnt even look T was trying to win this, just sitting in the middle of the map waiting for Z to be ready ... terrible play by Rush. Maybe he thinks he is Flash. I remember Flash usually bring his M&M come out his base to fight against Muta/Lings. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
at least soma showed up today, unlike asl12 where he just pooped the bed | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Tune in late for what should've been the most epic RO8 slug fest... just in time to catch post-match interview... wtf | ||
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Piste
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Sirris
681 Posts
On March 16 2022 20:09 Xeln4g4 wrote: One of the worst serie i can remember ... didnt even look T was trying to win this, just sitting in the middle of the map waiting for Z to be ready ... terrible play by Rush. I disagree. Rush had a clear and well thought out game plan. He was only seconds behind his timings twice. Give credit to Soma for excellent play. Soma made no mistakes. Soma had god level play as I've said before in this thread. Sure Rush made some gambles that didn't work. That doesn't mean it was terrible. He waited for 4 valks but he didnt know how fast Soma's excellent Lurker switch was. If Soma had made a few more mutas it would've been the best choice. The backstabs are hard to deal with in many games but a lot of the time it results in a zerg loss. Show me a series where a zerg wins like that twice in a row at the ASL level? Soma had his number today. That doesn't take from away Rush's game plan. It just didn't work out. | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
Didn't expect Rush to drop 3 straight though. I hope JyJ can keep his excellent form and deliver for us Terran fans. We haven't had a Terran champion since Light in the KSL. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8038 Posts
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oxKnu
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On March 16 2022 19:42 LpTraxamillion wrote: Bisudagger's predictions correct so far. Soma takes the best 2 zerg maps. Still a good chance Rush can run 3 games back. Great backstab putting Rush all in with Lurkers morphing in just in time Looks like everything went according to plan! I didn't anticipate his lurker use so early, but Soma did a great job anticipating Rush. This ASL is Soma's to lose. SK has inferior ZvZ and Rain definitely has his biggest weakness in PvZ. Action may do okay in a ZvZ finals versus Soma. Light has been on a downward trend in TvZ. It's really weird to say, but Jyj might have the best Zerg match up out of all the remaining players. | ||
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria408 Posts
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pood
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Galacsia
Chile161 Posts
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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TornadoSteve
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angry_maia
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On March 17 2022 01:20 pood wrote: Soma goes to finals, can't see neither Rain nor SoulKey beating him in the next round. And it looks like he will face Light (unless he chokes, as he often does). And then Soma takes it in the finals with 5-2 against Light. Conditioning on rain beating soulkey (which I don't expect him to) I think he actually has a great chance against Soma since that will indicate his pvz form is very strong. Pvz is def not rains best mu, but he occasionally looks very strong in it -- i.e. rain v queen in ksl 4 | ||
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TornadoSteve
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QOGQOG
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On March 17 2022 10:01 angry_maia wrote: Conditioning on rain beating soulkey (which I don't expect him to) I think he actually has a great chance against Soma since that will indicate his pvz form is very strong. Pvz is def not rains best mu, but he occasionally looks very strong in it -- i.e. rain v queen in ksl 4 I'm not sure a victory against SoulKey would change my prediction given that Soma is way more aggressive/cheesy—it's like someone winning against Best and then facing Mini, the skillset they'll need is mostly different. | ||
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Lazyer
United States342 Posts
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1951 Posts
Rush got spanked. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
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QOGQOG
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On March 17 2022 15:12 RowdierBob wrote: Not to take anything away from Soma, but damn Rush played poorly Rush seems to have trouble against super aggressive opponents--it felt like he played a bit below his standard last finals vs. Mini as well. I don't think his play was horrible in either case, but it felt like it really wasn't well tailored to their playstyles. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8038 Posts
On March 17 2022 15:39 QOGQOG wrote: Rush seems to have trouble against super aggressive opponents--it felt like he played a bit below his standard last finals vs. Mini as well. I don't think his play was horrible in either case, but it felt like it really wasn't well tailored to their playstyles. Sometimes I see a bit of weakness in Rush's play and that is his army positioning. His marines are in the middle of the map , doing nothing  . Not defending and not pressuring zerg's base... | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
hope this was just a one off situation and the rest of the bracket will not disappoint | ||
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prosatan
Romania8038 Posts
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/85065775 | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
On March 17 2022 18:41 prosatan wrote: In case someone wants to see the main moments , here's the VOD: https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/85065775 + Show Spoiler + That surround at 9:50 O.O | ||
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Byo
Canada207 Posts
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outscar
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QOGQOG
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On March 18 2022 02:44 outscar wrote: Wow Rush just got... unbelievably rekt. I get that he was trying to bust SoMa and it was very close on last two games but he made critical same mistakes on both games by not walling, blocking backstab from zerg. If he made bunker on 2nd game he could hold lings and maybe even mutas and on last game he didn't even pull SCVs to repair bunker. Sad to see the new hope of terran, Future of Terran going out like this... We can only hope we'll get to see the present of Terran get eliminated by falling for an overlord bait twice in a row like he did last season. | ||
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outscar
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On March 18 2022 11:07 QOGQOG wrote: We can only hope we'll get to see the present of Terran get eliminated by falling for an overlord bait twice in a row like he did last season. Haha, there's no way Invisible Terran loses to Mafia Zerg. Damn them terrans with so many nicknames but don't even worth of one finger of the Ultimate Weapon. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On March 18 2022 12:09 outscar wrote: Haha, there's no way Invisible Terran loses to Mafia Zerg. Damn them terrans with so many nicknames but don't even worth of one finger of the Ultimate Weapon. Light is terrible against Zerg compared to where he was 4+ years ago. Action is a really tough late game opponent in ZvT. His hive tech skill is top tier. | ||
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
On March 18 2022 22:22 BisuDagger wrote: Light is terrible against Zerg compared to where he was 4+ years ago. Action is a really tough late game opponent in ZvT. His hive tech skill is top tier. To be precise: Light is terrible against zerg in bo. offline matches. Action has horrendious record against Light online, more so just recently. Also if wedding wont cause too much distraction, Light has turned of his stream for now in order to practice. So even with current mappool and offline chocke I don't think its going to be onesided match. | ||
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LpTraxamillion
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On March 17 2022 22:28 Byo wrote: Bit confused by Rush's play, did soma really mask his aggressiveness that much? How did rush expect to hold either of the back stabs starting with essentially 4 rines at his nat vs at least 8 mutas + Ling's... He doesn't really need to hold it as long as he can bust Zerg main | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On March 18 2022 22:29 whaski wrote: To be precise: Light is terrible against zerg in bo. offline matches. Action has horrendious record against Light online, more so just recently. Also if wedding wont cause too much distraction, Light has turned of his stream for now in order to practice. So even with current mappool and offline chocke I don't think its going to be onesided match. I have to be vague in my arguments since I'm putting the write-up together on these two lol. I only aimed to refute the "No way light loses to Action" claim. You make great points! | ||
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88marss
Lithuania18 Posts
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QOGQOG
834 Posts
On March 20 2022 04:55 88marss wrote: when another match ro8 coming up ? Someone ought to make a website where that sort of thing is listed. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey730 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
On March 20 2022 14:34 QOGQOG wrote: Someone ought to make a website where that sort of thing is listed. Lmao | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
Either way I must trust Light is going to give Action hell. I will be really surprised if Light doesn't take at least 2 games off of Action. And if Light loses I think he's more to blame than Action is to praise. That said l love Action and hope he proves me he is ASL champ worthy. He has it in him. At one point Flash feared Action so much he got Action on KT. That always plays in my mind when Action is up for a ZvT Bo5. I mainly think of Light and Action as Bo1 players though. It should be fun and I'm hoping for fireworks. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Rain vs soulkey is postponed to next week of tuesday 7pm kst. Tomorrow is just light vs action at 7pm kst | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On March 21 2022 17:31 LaStScan wrote: Rain got covid test positive. Rain vs soulkey is postponed to next week of tuesday 7pm kst. Tomorrow is just light vs action at 7pm kst thanks for letting us know | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden305 Posts
On March 17 2022 22:28 Byo wrote: Bit confused by Rush's play, did soma really mask his aggressiveness that much? How did rush expect to hold either of the back stabs starting with essentially 4 rines at his nat vs at least 8 mutas + Ling's... Rush wasn't quite decisive enough and just got played by soma. He couldn't know if soma was gonna defend or backstab and as soma was able to delay Rush's attacks and get his defense up Rush simply made the wrong decision. If he had attacked before lurkers he could've come out on top of the base trade situation. Or if he had pulled back and played defensively into a bigger macro game he was in a pretty good situation still. I think somas aggressiveness made Rush mistime things just enough and soma was really ontop of his micro and positioning in a lot of the battles and Rush just got smashed. Considering how Rush was ahead at times and still got smashed I think this series shows a lot about what a fantastic game BW is. I am disappointed in how short and one sided these games felt, but I really liked the series for other reasons. Showing of decision making and timings and positioning vs. build order and planned strategies. I think these games really showcased a lot of nuances and parts of what makes Starcraft the best e-sport ever. | ||
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