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tankgirl
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![[image loading]](https://tl.net/staff/v1/works/asl_season13/ro24/main.png) AfreecaTV Starcraft League Season 13 Thursday, Feb 10 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FoG9K.png) Korean Afreeca Stream ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/kr.png) StarCastTV(Scan and Nyoken) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/loDIX.png) Dual tournament format: ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/697.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/noimage.jpg)  Rain vs  BishOp![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/626.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/630.jpg)  Action vs Horang2Map List <Eclipse> <Metaverse> <Revolver> <Vermeer> <Allegro> <Butter> <Monopoly> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MlkDo.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://imgur.com/ILIX5.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oRtZI.png) + Show Spoiler + Banner: v1 LR Resources: Blind-Rawr | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey840 Posts
Waiting from solid performance from Rain. | ||
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Sirris
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tankgirl
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Rain>Bishop Horang2>Action Horang2>Rain Action>Bishop Action>Rain | ||
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masoka82
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angry_maia
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On February 10 2022 15:53 tankgirl wrote: prediction Rain>Bishop Horang2>Action Horang2>Rain Action>Bishop Action>Rain so interesting to pick against rain in pvp! At least before he was retired he was absolutely unstoppable in that match up. | ||
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prosatan
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Also, Rain struggled a bit vs zerg (lost vs yoon twice for example), so if Action is on top of his game, Action > Rain | ||
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prosatan
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TMNT
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They are all here having fun rather than seriously competing I feel. But Rain base level is still so high that it makes for excitement. | ||
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masoka82
Spain604 Posts
On February 10 2022 17:46 TMNT wrote: It's funny that during the few games Rain played as practice for this ASL, he never played any PvP so we don't know what shape he's in. That said Horang2 barely played any games at all. They are all here having fun rather than seriously competing I feel. But Rain base level is still so high that it makes for excitement. I guess off-stream, they'll practice against some practice partners. For example Bisu said in yesterday's interview that he had practiced with Jaedong and Rush | ||
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tankgirl
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On February 10 2022 17:23 prosatan wrote: Rain's PvP is something else! But, during Kespa Era , Horangee had very good PvP too ! Also, Rain struggled a bit vs zerg (lost vs yoon twice for example), so if Action is on top of his game, Action > Rain Yea Horang2 PVP god, Action ZVP god...also the second map in the pool seems in favor of cheap Zerg units since only has 1000k minerals per patch | ||
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ggsimida
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On February 10 2022 17:29 prosatan wrote: Till the games start, I recommend watching killer/shinee streams ! they are playing a great game right now! rain from the studio wrecked shinee lmao | ||
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ggsimida
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On February 10 2022 18:25 tankgirl wrote: Yea Horang2 PVP god, Action ZVP god...also the second map in the pool seems in favor of cheap Zerg units since only has 1000k minerals per patch rain beat horang2 3-0 in asl7 ro8 not to say horang can't do it in bo1 but theres no matchup "god" atm | ||
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prosatan
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 Rain vs Action: + Show Spoiler + Rain vs Horang2: + Show Spoiler + One of the 3 games played between Action and Horang2: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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prosatan
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Sonic_md
Moldova278 Posts
will see | ||
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Sonic_md
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On February 10 2022 19:04 prosatan wrote: As far as I remember , Bishop played random at first, not terran sure he was random player... as old school gamer ChRh he was too random, but choose T race as main)) sry for my english | ||
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prosatan
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Sonic_md
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On February 10 2022 19:14 prosatan wrote: Bishop went 2-0 only in his qualifiers! Nice !! in his opponents was any strong player?? | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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Gas steal incoming in 3,2,1 ..... | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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Rain goes to winners match! | ||
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tankgirl
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angry_maia
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prosatan
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prosatan
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prosatan
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Let's see if Rain puts up a better fight than Horang | ||
BLinD-RawR
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tankgirl
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prosatan
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If no, I'll count on you TL, to LR a bit  | ||
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tankgirl
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TMNT
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SpaNiarD
Spain352 Posts
On February 10 2022 19:56 BLinD-RawR wrote: I knew this match was over when horang2 decided he didn't want sairs anymore +1 on that. Why would he sacrifice his sairs like that for a few overlords? He was forced to push zerg from that very moment | ||
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outscar
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prosatan
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On February 10 2022 20:05 outscar wrote: Slept this shit. My boy Rain on winners? Let's go. Yess! I have hoped for a PvP between Rain and Horang! But, we'll have a good PvZ instead! | ||
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prosatan
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outscar
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outscar
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prosatan
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Maybe Overlord transport is being researched... because of that isolate base P can take | ||
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prosatan
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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outscar
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angry_maia
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Sonic_md
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tankgirl
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prosatan
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On February 10 2022 20:24 Sonic_md wrote: Can Rain become ASL 13 champion? Yes, of course. You bet he can Sonic! But , on this ASL I'll go with Rush ! | ||
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angry_maia
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On February 10 2022 20:23 outscar wrote: Woah Rain made it look so easy, just A moved his army and crushed him lol. well, i think a-move would have totally died. Rain hit good storms on high ground lurkers, kept his zealots from running in, and simultaneously hit a dt/ storm drop. It is true though that Protoss getting to get **4** bases up and all their tech without having to build too many units is absurdly strong again zerg. Maybe Action should have attacked earlier? idk | ||
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Sirris
681 Posts
On February 10 2022 20:24 angry_maia wrote: did action just not really realize about the 3rd from rain? Did he miss a timing in there? It felt like action was ahead but rain got to just delay his gateways 5-ever and get 4 gas econ going. I think he really did think rains 4th nexus was his third. He misjudged the entire game imo. It explains why he made no effort to counter it. He didn’t even have a spire. | ||
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prosatan
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TMNT
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Should be put into BW textbook, lesson "How to push through a turtled Zerg base". | ||
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Sirris
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prosatan
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Sonic_md
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On February 10 2022 20:28 prosatan wrote: You bet he can Sonic! But , on this ASL I'll go with Rush ! and I, as always, for Action and Best | ||
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angry_maia
332 Posts
On February 10 2022 20:32 Sirris wrote: Other Protoss can learn from rains army management. He never over commits into attacks. He leads with goons and storms avoiding most damage. He keeps his zealots back while scouting for flanks and pulling back and engaging the flanks as they come. So much easier said than done though. He definitely played better than I thought. Although I expected him to advance from the group. Heh, Rain learned from his own play. Check out his series against Larva waaay back in ASL 4 (?? i think?). Just a-moved armies and armies and armies into turtled lurker sunken. | ||
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prosatan
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outscar
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On February 10 2022 20:35 angry_maia wrote: Heh, Rain learned from his own play. Check out his series against Larva waaay back in ASL 4 (?? i think?). Just a-moved armies and armies and armies into turtled lurker sunken. Those were my favourite series, legendary games. I already miss Larva. | ||
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prosatan
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 Horang has this game in his bag. And we'll see (not me, but you guys) Horangee vs Action rematch ! | ||
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outscar
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On February 10 2022 20:44 prosatan wrote: Got to go Horang has this game in his bag. And we'll see (not me, but you guys) Horangee vs Action rematch ! Cya on next group  | ||
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outscar
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tankgirl
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outscar
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prosatan
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outscar | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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but its ok action is my boy. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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TMNT
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Dewaltoss
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tankgirl
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Poll: Would you recommend game Action vs Horang2 Game 5? No (6) Yes (0) If you have time (0) 6 total votes Your vote: Would you recommend game Action vs Horang2 Game 5? | ||
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DiMiaN
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Lazyer
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emperorchampion
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RowdierBob
Australia13497 Posts
On February 10 2022 21:12 TMNT wrote: Yeah how do you defend that as Protoss. There are other variations like when they actually make the Lair then cancel it and go for Hydra. No amount of skill can help. Got to scout better. Lost his probe at the 4.45 mark and was playing blind from that point. | ||
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rararara
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On February 11 2022 07:44 emperorchampion wrote: juicy storms in rain vs action I think Rain having so much mana from Action not attacking early, was also key to be able to push through. Even being on the low-ground actually helps in this case, because HT can't be sniped. Maybe Action could have pulled away a bit or brought in more units + build a sunken. But distracting with the DT/HT-Drop just before was luring the support-units away from the main entrance and confusing Action. It was just such a good timing from Rain - even if he wouldn't have killed Action, the combination of dealing damage and 4 bases kicking in behind the attack would have brought him in a very nice position. My guess is Action was too much in the dark about what Rain was doing and where he was moving on the map. Definitely points out the weakness of Zerg doing quick 4 bases to Hive. Somehow this reminded me of Rush vs Soma in last ASL, when Rush just broke through that massive sunken wall, unexpectedly pummeling the opponent at the exact and maybe only moment possible. Very impressive strategically! | ||
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Brainojack
Canada195 Posts
Is there a way for zerg to mineral jump to the 12 oclock in that poisiton like rain took the 6? Rain seemed to sniff it out pretty quick. Later on when he was moving his army between the nat and the 3rd he went in and picked off a hatchery and backed off. I thought that was pretty measured and he never commited, just built up a big army and tried to catch reinforcement coming across the map. In his pvt game i thought his best move was dropping a goon into the main to oneshot the low hp goliath. had me laughing. | ||
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RKC
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As others have noted, Rain just has a knack of picking the right timing and army composition in his attacks. The way he suddenly rolls over his opponent on relative even supply (or even slightly behind) is just uncanny. All down to game sense (ala Flash). | ||
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