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quick and really dirty.

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just how much a little advantage matters in this matchup

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yes

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if you have time

BLinD-RawR
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Last Edited: 2021-10-10 03:47:17
October 10 2021 03:37 GMT
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 10 2021 03:38 GMT
#2
hype
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10069 Posts
October 10 2021 03:45 GMT
#3
damn worst matchup for SK, rip
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1971 Posts
October 10 2021 05:13 GMT
#4
Pray for hive tech
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey840 Posts
October 10 2021 05:57 GMT
#5
Interesting that SK picked new maps whereas Queen picked olds.

Polypoid (Q)
Largo (Map)(SK)
Ascension(Q)
GOOD NIGHT(SK)
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
October 10 2021 06:37 GMT
#6
^ SK picked maps favor Zerg in the ZvZ. I guess SK will win this series 3-0.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 07:23 GMT
#7
OK! Let's do this !!!

LB on Zero!

Hope for a game with hive tech pleaseeee !!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
October 10 2021 07:24 GMT
#8
Uh....ZvZ?
I'll just check the results later.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
October 10 2021 08:39 GMT
#9
I wanna see ultras and defilers and devouvers.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 09:42 GMT
#10
On October 10 2021 17:39 Piste wrote:
I wanna see ultras and defilers and devouvers.

Lurkers vs lurkers !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 10 2021 10:07 GMT
#11
I despise ZvZ

=[
hatred outlives the hateful
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:35 GMT
#12
GG!!

1-0 for Zero!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:36 GMT
#13
Both had at one point equal supplies: 81

After the last fight, Zero had 56 left and SK 17....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:37 GMT
#14
Man...if Sk loses with 3-0 his ZvZ record will drop even more into the abyss...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
October 10 2021 10:39 GMT
#15
zero just has better muta control.

honestly soulkey should try doing the great build to get fast queens.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:42 GMT
#16
On October 10 2021 19:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
zero just has better muta control.

honestly soulkey should try doing the great build to get fast queens.

I swear I was thinking at by.great and his plans for ZvZ to go to the late game
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:45 GMT
#17
Again Zero scouts right haha
SK is a bit unlucky I must say..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:46 GMT
#18
12 hatch - Zero

12 hatch but in main for Sk...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:47 GMT
#19
and a HIDDEN hatchery for SK haaaa
maybe this will work !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:49 GMT
#20
SK is going all in mass lings !!!
Let's see !
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:50 GMT
#21
He has this!!

GG 1-1 !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 10:55 GMT
#22
HOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 6
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain604 Posts
October 10 2021 11:09 GMT
#23
Let´s go SK!!
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
October 10 2021 11:13 GMT
#24
Game 2 was great!
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2753 Posts
October 10 2021 11:37 GMT
#25
ZvZ yawn
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 11:37 GMT
#26
GG!!
Zero FTW
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
October 10 2021 11:38 GMT
#27
that zvz winrate for sk plunges further.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-10 11:44:06
October 10 2021 11:42 GMT
#28
I was watching Calm's broadcast and apparently he helped SoulKey come up with the build order for every set. Soulkey had BO win on the first 3 games, and on the fourth match Soulkey said he felt confident and detracted from Calm's build order, and yall know what happened in that game.

Also, Calm was pissed at the fact that Zero had so much luck with the spawn and scouting.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
October 10 2021 11:44 GMT
#29
we'll see whether champion or choker shows up vs Mini
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
October 10 2021 16:53 GMT
#30
On October 10 2021 20:44 ggsimida wrote:
we'll see whether champion or choker shows up vs Mini


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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
332 Posts
October 10 2021 17:20 GMT
#31
On October 10 2021 20:44 ggsimida wrote:
we'll see whether champion or choker shows up vs Mini


I feel like you aren't giving enough credit to Mini. He just had a great gameplan build-orders wise to beat Queen.

You are right however that Queen's overall level feels higher than Minis, even at ZvP. I think MIni is just a player who really really benefits from prep. I actually think Mini would have beaten Larva had Larva not gotten to see Mini's builds against Queen. The surprise factor matters a lot.

Will be interesting to see what he can do again (assuming he beats Sorry which is not a given).

I'll also say that you could NOT make a better bracket for Mini.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey840 Posts
October 10 2021 18:00 GMT
#32
Mini prefers Queen against Sk imo.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9298 Posts
October 10 2021 18:36 GMT
#33
On October 11 2021 03:00 HOLYBATS wrote:
Mini prefers Queen against Sk imo.

Agree! mini seems to play well against zero! he has good results vs him
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
October 10 2021 18:43 GMT
#34
I’m gutted for SK. He has improved so much and I thought he would pull it out. It was a tough match up for him.

On a positive note, I’m rooting for Mini and I agree he would probably prefer Queen over SK. SK is very aggressive and unpredictable whereas Queen, while dangerous, plays more standard and Mini has found ways to exploit that.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 10 2021 20:19 GMT
#35
Mini is a favorite against any zerg in Bo5 currently. But the big test will be his PvT in games against Sorry. I give 60% to Sorry on those.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1132 Posts
October 11 2021 01:51 GMT
#36
On October 11 2021 05:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini is a favorite against any zerg in Bo5 currently. But the big test will be his PvT in games against Sorry. I give 60% to Sorry on those.


Agreed
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8707 Posts
October 11 2021 11:53 GMT
#37
Close matches but I feel like the games SK won were a bit of a fluke and he won mostly due to building more lings which zero didn't scout or expect. Macro and micro wise, Zero was definitely a level above SK.

On October 11 2021 10:51 TornadoSteve wrote:
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On October 11 2021 05:19 arbiter_md wrote:
Mini is a favorite against any zerg in Bo5 currently. But the big test will be his PvT in games against Sorry. I give 60% to Sorry on those.


Agreed


I wouldn't say a favourite in PvZ but it's at least a 50 % against top zergs which is quite a bit higher than any other competing protoss atm. But yeah, it will be hard for him to advance vs Sorry...
Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
October 12 2021 02:27 GMT
#38
Mini looks like Bisu must have looked like to people first seeing him go Corsair dt. Mini has god like zealot micro and gets away with both delaying cannons and hardly building any cannons. He’s a straight beast in PvZ but still not much better than 50% because hydra busts (and to a lesser extent lings floods) are always a threat to Toss
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