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BLinD-RawR
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
May 18 2021 07:10 GMT
#1

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
May 18 2021 08:11 GMT
#2
No hype. I don't want to be disappointed again.

Rush FIGHTING!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 09:11 GMT
#3
Go Larva!!!
Rooting for him , tho Rush is in good shape!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 18 2021 09:28 GMT
#4
Heart says Larva, my head would be disappointed to have 3 Zergs in the Ro4, that would be way too much ZvZ for me, so please Rush win this one
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain599 Posts
May 18 2021 09:44 GMT
#5
Rush Fightning!!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:00 GMT
#6
Well.... my LB is on Larva !

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But you know Rush beat Larva with 8-1 in ultimate battle??
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 18 2021 10:07 GMT
#7
hoping for a rush zero final
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 10:08:39
May 18 2021 10:08 GMT
#8
On May 18 2021 19:07 Ziggy wrote:
hoping for a rush zero final

Mini is so hard to beat ! I like zero but I feel Mini is on top of his game !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
May 18 2021 10:14 GMT
#9
On May 18 2021 19:08 prosatan wrote:
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On May 18 2021 19:07 Ziggy wrote:
hoping for a rush zero final

Mini is so hard to beat !


Not if you're talking about PvT.

Queen is still favorite, let's be real here.

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Where is Nyoken?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:15 GMT
#10
On May 18 2021 19:14 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2021 19:08 prosatan wrote:
On May 18 2021 19:07 Ziggy wrote:
hoping for a rush zero final

Mini is so hard to beat !


Not if you're talking about PvT.

Queen is still favorite, let's be real here.

---

Where is Nyoken?

Guess only Scan today !

Larva - magenta zerg

Rush - orange terran
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 18 2021 10:16 GMT
#11
as long as zero doesnt win 3 asls in a row ill be chuffed
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:17 GMT
#12
CC first ! and larva take his 3rd! Greeeeedy !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:21 GMT
#13
Mutas and a quick transition to hydra den
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:23 GMT
#14
Only if Larva can survive early and mid game!

His has a better late game than Rush imo...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:26 GMT
#15
I just love the overlord placemend over the lurkers
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:33 GMT
#16
YESSSS!!!
GG
GG !

Go to the late game, Larva !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
May 18 2021 10:34 GMT
#17
seems like terrans have forgotten how to tvz over the last year or so lol
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden557 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 10:35:35
May 18 2021 10:35 GMT
#18
Wtf was Rush doing that first game?...
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 18 2021 10:37 GMT
#19
reflecting on how weird it was for them to ask about his blood group in this interview
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 18 2021 10:37 GMT
#20
On May 18 2021 19:34 Motivate wrote:
seems like terrans have forgotten how to tvz over the last year or so lol


rather seems like terrans lost the ultimate weapon he made us forget that terran isnt unbeatable
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:43 GMT
#21
A few problems with Scan's stream...
Hope he fixes them
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 10:48:41
May 18 2021 10:48 GMT
#22
I swear that Larva's muta micro seems weak ... Zero , Soma , effort have amazing control.. Larva - a bit poor
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:58 GMT
#23
GG!!

1-1 !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 10:59 GMT
#24
Good!

Now map 3 , Larva's choice
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
May 18 2021 10:59 GMT
#25
On May 18 2021 19:37 Ziggy wrote:
reflecting on how weird it was for them to ask about his blood group in this interview


asking blood type isn't weird at all in eastern cultures.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
May 18 2021 11:00 GMT
#26
In ro.8, I voted BeSt[HyO], Jyj, Snow, and Larva will go into ro.4
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 11:02 GMT
#27
On May 18 2021 20:00 bovienchien wrote:
In ro.8, I voted BeSt[HyO], Jyj, Snow, and Larva will go into ro.4

hahaha i am dying !!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 18 2021 11:05 GMT
#28
On May 18 2021 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2021 19:37 Ziggy wrote:
reflecting on how weird it was for them to ask about his blood group in this interview


asking blood type isn't weird at all in eastern cultures.


thanks for clarifying, i wouldnt know anything about the culture of korea
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51109 Posts
May 18 2021 11:06 GMT
#29
On May 18 2021 20:05 Ziggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2021 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 18 2021 19:37 Ziggy wrote:
reflecting on how weird it was for them to ask about his blood group in this interview


asking blood type isn't weird at all in eastern cultures.


thanks for clarifying, i wouldnt know anything about the culture of korea


maybe you should have paid attention in class.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 18 2021 11:10 GMT
#30
On May 18 2021 20:06 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2021 20:05 Ziggy wrote:
On May 18 2021 19:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 18 2021 19:37 Ziggy wrote:
reflecting on how weird it was for them to ask about his blood group in this interview


asking blood type isn't weird at all in eastern cultures.


thanks for clarifying, i wouldnt know anything about the culture of korea


maybe you should have paid attention in class.


i was busy watching asl
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 11:14 GMT
#31
Good and agressive play from larva paid off !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
May 18 2021 11:16 GMT
#32
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
May 18 2021 11:18 GMT
#33
On May 18 2021 19:48 prosatan wrote:
I swear that Larva's muta micro seems weak ... Zero , Soma , effort have amazing control.. Larva - a bit poor


Usually it is not top class (compared to other top zergs) but in game 2 it actually was quite amazing (given how difficult Eclipse is in those situations).
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1603 Posts
May 18 2021 11:19 GMT
#34
Man Rush, you had that game 8/
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 11:22 GMT
#35
Fighting spirit! The map of all maps !

Come on Larva ! 3-1 ! you got this !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
May 18 2021 11:36 GMT
#36
Rush trying hard to throw this away.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 11:39:27
May 18 2021 11:39 GMT
#37
Something is wrong with Larva....he doesn't seem confident....gg
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
May 18 2021 11:39 GMT
#38
We got a game 5 damn.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2021 11:39 GMT
#39
Rush I will never vote for you in liquibet again. Regardless of the outcome of this series.

Rushs decision making is sometimes C or B Level. Not even kidding.
hatred outlives the hateful
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 18 2021 11:40 GMT
#40
On May 18 2021 20:36 RowdierBob wrote:
Rush trying hard to throw this away.


He tried to make it exciting for us, I appreciate that
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 11:42:04
May 18 2021 11:41 GMT
#41
no matter what Larva throws at Rush, he is not ready xD

p.s has a decent crisis management though
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 18 2021 11:44 GMT
#42
I don't want ZvsZ semi-final, but Larva is objectively stronger today.
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
Treveis
Profile Joined July 2018
11 Posts
May 18 2021 11:46 GMT
#43
Im scared, cant imagine what players feel right now
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 11:53:04
May 18 2021 11:51 GMT
#44
2 hatch muta? Wouldn't have thought that to be among Larva's stronger builds. Very interesting.

Edit: Guess it was a fakeout.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2021 11:56 GMT
#45
why not attack into a lurker sunken and a muta ball

-_-v
hatred outlives the hateful
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2021 11:58 GMT
#46
rushs decision making is embarassing

if his mechanics werent as good as they are he wouldnt even qualify for ASL

~_~
hatred outlives the hateful
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8979 Posts
May 18 2021 12:01 GMT
#47
YES !!!! This is it !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 18 2021 12:01 GMT
#48
I can't even
lol
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 12:02:34
May 18 2021 12:01 GMT
#49
Lets run to the expansion where u literally can not ever do any damage Rush. And have 2 control groups out of position for the potential backstab for no reason.

Holy cow

what a genius

unreal
hatred outlives the hateful
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 18 2021 12:01 GMT
#50
omg, zvz bo7
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
May 18 2021 12:02 GMT
#51
Fuck yeah Larva. Let's go SKT!

ZvZ finals likely, but hopefully Larva will make it there and win!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
115 Posts
May 18 2021 12:04 GMT
#52
this was the funniest thing I've seen in a longgggggg time ..............

PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2021 12:04 GMT
#53
Ok either Rush is like literally the worst in terms of decision making of all Pros out there or he threw this game..

So ur telling me a Ro8 Top pro.. is running with 2,5 control groups of units to the left side of the map to an expansion with the narrowst of entrances on the map vs a zerg with nydus, lurker, defiler, dark swarm and at the same time doesnt scout the middle for backstabs


Holy shit that is some next level stuff..

what the hell
hatred outlives the hateful
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
May 18 2021 12:06 GMT
#54
Wow, Phil must've lost a huge bet. Unfortunate turn of events for him.

Looking forward to that Mini vs Larva finals.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
May 18 2021 12:12 GMT
#55
This just makes me sick.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
May 18 2021 12:12 GMT
#56
On May 18 2021 21:06 oxKnu wrote:
Wow, Phil must've lost a huge bet. Unfortunate turn of events for him.

Looking forward to that Mini vs Larva finals.

Larva is not getting past Hero sorry. I personally dont care, all zergs are the same, but hero is a tournament veteran which is probably the most important in the randomness of the ZvZ
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
May 18 2021 12:13 GMT
#57
On May 18 2021 21:06 oxKnu wrote:
Wow, Phil must've lost a huge bet. Unfortunate turn of events for him.

Looking forward to that Mini vs Larva finals.

I wish you're right.. I really do.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 18 2021 12:37 GMT
#58
last 3 ASL - it is Z - time))
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
May 18 2021 13:22 GMT
#59
I already want Flash back
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 14:01:10
May 18 2021 13:58 GMT
#60
On May 18 2021 21:12 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2021 21:06 oxKnu wrote:
Wow, Phil must've lost a huge bet. Unfortunate turn of events for him.

Looking forward to that Mini vs Larva finals.

Larva is not getting past Hero sorry. I personally dont care, all zergs are the same, but hero is a tournament veteran which is probably the most important in the randomness of the ZvZ


What you said doesn't make any kind of sense.

However, Hero is the favorite because he's a superior micro player.

It's still a Bo5 ZvZ, so leaning towards a coin-flip anyways.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 18 2021 14:22 GMT
#61
On May 18 2021 22:22 TentativePanda wrote:
I already want Flash back


Флеш придёт порядок наведет))
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
May 18 2021 14:26 GMT
#62
On May 18 2021 21:06 oxKnu wrote:
Wow, Phil must've lost a huge bet. Unfortunate turn of events for him.

Looking forward to that Mini vs Larva finals.


nah just the mixture of losing a liquibet + super boring match up with ZvZ coming up is a big bummer

~~
hatred outlives the hateful
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1117 Posts
May 18 2021 14:31 GMT
#63
??
Larva vs hero is anything but a coin flip

its larva best mu vs hero worst mu
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
May 18 2021 14:39 GMT
#64
mini GOGOGO

it will be first PvZ final at all ASL seasons. mini gogogo
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
May 18 2021 16:12 GMT
#65
On May 18 2021 23:31 TornadoSteve wrote:
??
Larva vs hero is anything but a coin flip

its larva best mu vs hero worst mu


I would say it is worst matchup for Larva and coinflippy for Hero. Online stats favor Hero 44-32 but Larva can suprise with his momentum.
it's not just a music it's something else
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
May 18 2021 16:17 GMT
#66
On May 18 2021 23:31 TornadoSteve wrote:
??
Larva vs hero is anything but a coin flip

its larva best mu vs hero worst mu


I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure zvz is larva's worst matchup.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-18 16:34:50
May 18 2021 16:32 GMT
#67
ASL10: Larva knocked out in RO4 by Z
ASL9: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z
ASL8: Larva knocked out in RO16 Groups by Z and T
KSL2: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z

So yeah, zvz does NOT favor Larva in decisive matches. Still rooting for my boy!
Drone is a way of living
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
May 18 2021 18:07 GMT
#68
ZvZ finals, yaaaayyyy. This is what happens when Flash leaves
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 18 2021 18:11 GMT
#69
Entertaining games. Good job by Larva, experience pays off. Rush really havent proven himself in offline tournaments yet.
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
May 18 2021 19:51 GMT
#70
imagine flaming a player and calling matchfix because you lose a liquibet
Progamer
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States388 Posts
May 18 2021 21:15 GMT
#71
rush holds on to his vessels really well but was just positionally outplayed in the games he lost. hopefully he will have better map presence in the future.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland745 Posts
May 18 2021 21:19 GMT
#72
On May 18 2021 21:04 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Ok either Rush is like literally the worst in terms of decision making of all Pros out there or he threw this game..

So ur telling me a Ro8 Top pro.. is running with 2,5 control groups of units to the left side of the map to an expansion with the narrowst of entrances on the map vs a zerg with nydus, lurker, defiler, dark swarm and at the same time doesnt scout the middle for backstabs


Holy shit that is some next level stuff..

what the hell


u ok buddy?
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
May 18 2021 22:01 GMT
#73
Rush just felt the pressure. No way he plays this tight and uninspired in an online match.

Huge props to Larva though, he just threw the kitchen sink at him whenever he felt he got a bit behind.
Larva is a bit of a headcase but you can't fault him for not being creative and thinking outside of the box.

Rush just needs a big breakthrough to calm off the high that comes from peoples expectations of him becoming a Flash replacement.

outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
May 18 2021 22:09 GMT
#74
I liked overall Larva's decision making while Rush seemed he was out of touch many games, like he could win this series if he defended more.
I think Larva is going to get sniped by zerg again, his muta control is less superior compared to herO, I'm not even going to compare with ZerOs.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
251 Posts
May 19 2021 00:46 GMT
#75
Mini has choked so many times that BBC I wonder if he might clutch up. Well it is Zero so probably not. Maybe Mini can play well for the third place match.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1117 Posts
May 19 2021 01:05 GMT
#76
On May 19 2021 01:32 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ASL10: Larva knocked out in RO4 by Z
ASL9: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z
ASL8: Larva knocked out in RO16 Groups by Z and T
KSL2: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z

So yeah, zvz does NOT favor Larva in decisive matches. Still rooting for my boy!


Larva has been a total beast in zvz since about a year now, and your stats mean nothing. ASL9&10 Larva lost to ZerO and... ZerO.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
May 19 2021 01:15 GMT
#77
I think Mini shouldn't feel any pressure, he's the clear underdog and he has everything to gain and nothing to lose. He can play whatever strats he feels give him a reasonable chance and not worry too much if he fails early in the match. I think he should focus most of his efforts on games 3-5, because if he somehow gets a chance to close out the match he should try not to squander the opportunity mindlessly. Nothing feels worse than trying so hard to get so far but in the end it doesn't even matter.
Queen is the one who should be working hard to make sure every single one of his strats is planned to perfection.

Larva vs hero will slightly favor Larva imo. Just my personal bias, I don't know enough about hero.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
May 19 2021 01:38 GMT
#78
On May 19 2021 10:05 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 01:32 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ASL10: Larva knocked out in RO4 by Z
ASL9: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z
ASL8: Larva knocked out in RO16 Groups by Z and T
KSL2: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z

So yeah, zvz does NOT favor Larva in decisive matches. Still rooting for my boy!


Larva has been a total beast in zvz since about a year now, and your stats mean nothing. ASL9&10 Larva lost to ZerO and... ZerO.


Interesting... Do you happen to have any spoonmatches stats between Larva/hero or Larva/Zero ?
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 19 2021 01:49 GMT
#79
Amazing. The only thing missing was Larva finishing G5 with his feet like the good old days
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-19 02:49:47
May 19 2021 02:45 GMT
#80
I literally facepalmed when Rush "rushed" into defeat in game 5. He was probably thinking "I can't lose, I'm the ASL champion lolz". Great series overall but that anticlimactic floundering was spectacularly disappointing, especially considering the tournament context.

Let's go Mini!!! Save us from another ZvZ finals!
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
May 19 2021 03:09 GMT
#81
On May 19 2021 03:07 superjoppe wrote:
ZvZ finals, yaaaayyyy. This is what happens when Flash leaves


Maybe Zero is favourite, but Mini is not dead.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
May 19 2021 05:01 GMT
#82
Lol at those who were so confident Rush was gonna win
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4107 Posts
May 19 2021 07:04 GMT
#83
On May 19 2021 10:05 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 01:32 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
ASL10: Larva knocked out in RO4 by Z
ASL9: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z
ASL8: Larva knocked out in RO16 Groups by Z and T
KSL2: Larva knocked out in RO8 by Z

So yeah, zvz does NOT favor Larva in decisive matches. Still rooting for my boy!


Larva has been a total beast in zvz since about a year now, and your stats mean nothing. ASL9&10 Larva lost to ZerO and... ZerO.


lol did you even read the post with the "stats"? Don't tell me in which form my boy is too.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
May 19 2021 10:37 GMT
#84
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
May 19 2021 23:11 GMT
#85
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

If Mini can't beat him, yes. Honestly that Ro4 match is basically the finals.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 20 2021 13:30 GMT
#86
On May 20 2021 08:11 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

If Mini can't beat him, yes. Honestly that Ro4 match is basically the finals.

Mini's PvZ can be pretty darn nice sometimes. But I think your statement is downplaying both hero and Larva, unless you ment that you do not enjoy ZvZ.
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
May 20 2021 19:50 GMT
#87
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

Does this give Zero banjo status?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
May 20 2021 21:10 GMT
#88
On May 20 2021 22:30 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2021 08:11 QOGQOG wrote:
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

If Mini can't beat him, yes. Honestly that Ro4 match is basically the finals.

Mini's PvZ can be pretty darn nice sometimes. But I think your statement is downplaying both hero and Larva, unless you ment that you do not enjoy ZvZ.


I can only assume you haven't watched Zero's previous ZvZ performances in these final rounds in the past.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-20 21:14:29
May 20 2021 21:12 GMT
#89
On May 20 2021 22:30 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2021 08:11 QOGQOG wrote:
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

If Mini can't beat him, yes. Honestly that Ro4 match is basically the finals.

Mini's PvZ can be pretty darn nice sometimes. But I think your statement is downplaying both hero and Larva, unless you ment that you do not enjoy ZvZ.

I'm not a huge fan of it for the finals at least, but that's not why I'm thinking of Mini/Queen as the finals.

While I don't think it's impossible for hero/Larva to win vs Queen based purely on skill, they'll have just played the best ZvZs they can against each other, while Queen hasn't played any of the matchup this season. With less information on his play and him having more time to prepare, it's hard to see either winning a Bo7 against him.

Now, to be fair, either could win against Mini as he will have had to show a lot of his strategies, but I do think if he beats Queen he should go all the way. He's probably the best PvZ around and tends to go on hot streaks.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
May 20 2021 23:55 GMT
#90
Any chance we can introduce sparkle and third world into the map pool at this late stage? :O
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
May 21 2021 09:16 GMT
#91
On May 21 2021 04:50 Marl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2021 19:37 Sadist wrote:
Welp, guess Zero is gonna win his 3rd in a row.

Does this give Zero banjo status?

Zero is certainly not a bonjwa, but likely a banjo of some sort.

Silly titles aside, Zero has at least 1.5 years to surpass Flash's ASL gold medal count, something that could very well come into fruition.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 21 2021 11:26 GMT
#92
A ZvZ finals favorite, pain
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Ruff
Profile Joined August 2006
Kazakhstan179 Posts
May 21 2021 11:45 GMT
#93
herO played game number 4 like a beast! SnOw was very strong, but...

My prediction:
Zero > Mini
herO > Larva
"Keep on dreaming, boy, cause someday you will shine" (Ogogo).
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 22 2021 02:38 GMT
#94
Finals: Zero 4 herO 0

Imagine all the puns, memes, hype potential...
gg no re thx
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