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Recommended Games + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Larva vs Bisu] + Watch if you have time, Winner did everything right. + Show Spoiler [Snow vs EffOrt] + some good decision making and crisis management leads to a win + Show Spoiler [Winner's Game] + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + Yes, well worth the watch + Show Spoiler [Game 2] + Winner plays the map really well. + Show Spoiler [Game 3] + Good game, back and forth, if you want to see someone really try to get the most of his units, well worth the watch + Show Spoiler [Losers' Game] + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + I missed this match so I'll go with a quote from blackmanpl, "what are we watching -_-" + Show Spoiler [Game 2] + watch if you have time. + Show Spoiler [Game 3] + watch if you have time. + Show Spoiler [Final Game] + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + Outclassed. + Show Spoiler [Game 2] + Amazing opening, well worth the watch for it. + Show Spoiler [Game 3] + skip | ||
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Very indecisive Bisu, Larva played way better. First time I see a protoss who isn't a threat to the zerg, because he doesn't make any units for 12 minutes. Well deserved win for Larva, 200iq timing and attack on nat. | ||
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oh ok he has one. | ||
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On May 02 2021 20:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: with hive and defilers this is going to be hard for snow no it's not :D | ||
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On May 02 2021 20:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: with hive and defilers this is going to be hard for snow ahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha | ||
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On May 02 2021 20:34 ShloobeR wrote: Larva just kinda thought if he held middle he wins by default? I mean he was dealing with harass, contain was laid bare, contain got broken with no support. | ||
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On May 02 2021 20:34 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: ahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha I said that before harass started  | ||
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LpTraxamillion
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I think the Protoss players are just weaker than the top terran/zerg players in general. When you get a top5 level toss player like Rain or Snow they are dominant. Looks like Larva is over it and just looking to get out in losers. 9 pool lol | ||
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too bad can't say the same about his high templars, those mutas were brutal. | ||
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Larva out of the group of death first. Effort has an absolute gauntlet ahead of him now, I imagine snow still makes it out in losers | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:18 weiliem wrote: Wow that 3rd game was amazing..... I really thought Larva should've been dead after Snow got the 1 o'clock 2 gas base. Think his mutas just denied any HTs from popping out, snow was just not able to use his gas effectively.... Yea he wasn't able to convert the 1 o clock gas into storms effectively because of the mutas | ||
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The guy has matured, and look extremly solid in all 3 match ups. A first ASL final is very possible | ||
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hours of hours of training into 2h hydra? :p | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:33 blackmanpl wrote: what are we watching -_- hours of hours of training into 2h hydra? :p it was closer than it looked imo | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:33 blackmanpl wrote: what are we watching -_- hours of hours of training into 2h hydra? :p Unfortunately post army Effort hasn't been nearly as good as he was back when he won an ASL | ||
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LpTraxamillion
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Maybe if half the hydras weren't deep red. Effort made a mistake imo trying to snipe the cannon with his lings rather than keep them with his hydras (which would have sped up his fight with the zealots at his nat, preserves hydra health, and added hp during the bust). When he wasn't able to get on top of the cannon it was over, the probe losses didn't matter | ||
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There's a reason all of these games look like this. | ||
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Had he been getting wrecked in sponnbang by these guys or something? | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:44 oxKnu wrote: Effort is not even at 50% of his former self. It has been this way ever since he came back. There's a reason all of these games look like this. What surprises me is that I thought that someone with so much experience but with lack of practice will show weakness mid and late game where his micro, macro and decision making should start to lack, but executing a building order early should've been straight imo | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:47 Brainojack wrote: Tough run for Effort...lets see snow v bisu now! rank 3 and 5 in sponbbang, pretty damn good pvp on both sides to boot. | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:47 M2 wrote: What surprises me is that I thought that someone with so much experience but with lack of practice will show weakness mid and late game where his micro, macro and decision making should start to lack, but executing a building order early should've been straight imo Effort had a difficult surgery near end of his service. He has stated multiple times during streams feeling uncomfortable with his micro because of his physical condition. It is not suprising he plays like this. | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:44 oxKnu wrote: Effort is not even at 50% of his former self. It has been this way ever since he came back. There's a reason all of these games look like this. It still feels bad to see Effort in this state. Reminds a lot of Jaedong post ASL 6 | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:05 BLinD-RawR wrote: outclassed It was actually a closer game than it looked. Bisu was actively looking for the elevator but missed it by 1 pixel. Had he found it the game could have gone on for much longer. | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:53 whaski wrote: Effort had a difficult surgery near end of his service. He has stated multiple times during streams feeling uncomfortable with his micro because of his physical condition. It is not suprising he plays like this. Hand/wrist surgery? | ||
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On May 02 2021 21:53 whaski wrote: Effort had a difficult surgery near end of his service. He has stated multiple times during streams feeling uncomfortable with his micro because of his physical condition. It is not suprising he plays like this. I don't find any documentation regarding this, what happened that he had a surgery ? | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:29 realstorm wrote: I don't find any documentation regarding this, what happened that he had a surgery ? Listen to scans translation of the pre-game interviews for this group. | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: lol shuttle got sniped snow knew...i think he had two sets of goons located on shuttle paths out of bisu's base | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:32 Brainojack wrote: snow knew...i think he had two sets of goons located on shuttle paths out of bisu's base he did, 2 sets of 2. I mean the game was pretty much over the moment it was sniped although even otherwise it would have ended fairly soon. | ||
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LpTraxamillion
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Dam Bisu must be annoyed after throwing big leads in that last game multiple times. Bisu elevatoring 4 goons for no reason when he was breaking out with a reaver anyways and losing them. | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:29 realstorm wrote: I don't find any documentation regarding this, what happened that he had a surgery ? Not sure if this is right place https://bj.afreecatv.com/momo130/post/60051784?page=23 | ||
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On May 02 2021 22:35 LpTraxamillion wrote: I saw scan playing games with hero, I'd like to ask him what he thinks of hero's condition. I think hero is a top3-4 zerg right now. I also think group4 might even be a harder group than this one or at least close. zero, soma (yea he died this ro16 but hes still rank2 sponbbang) soulkey larva (recent results) is still definitively above him hes around action level atm imo | ||
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it's shaping up really nicely I must say. | ||
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On May 02 2021 23:32 RowdierBob wrote: GGs, glad Snow made it. But for the life of me I don't know why P players don't place a higher premium on their cairs in PvZ. They micro the shit out of them in the early game only to carelessly lose them in the mid and then die to a muta HT snipe transition every time. Snow should've won game 3 vs Larva. I personally wonder why protosses never do a dark archon around the time when a possible muta switch may appear. Its such a big hard counter that also works pretty well even if no mutas come | ||
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We're 3/4 so far of SKT people in the Ro8! | ||
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On May 02 2021 23:38 M2 wrote: I personally wonder why protosses never do a dark archon around the time when a possible muta switch may appear. Its such a big hard counter that also works pretty well even if no mutas come I guess it's a significant gas investment around a time you need your very gas-intensive tech units. I'd argue maelstrom works fairly well vs clumped hydras too, but I'm no P and I have a thing for dark archons, so don't quote me. | ||
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Larva's looking great! | ||
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Larva played great though, really a nice new approach to the mu... Snow... Hmm I'm not convinced... | ||
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On May 03 2021 01:28 TaardadAiel wrote: I guess it's a significant gas investment around a time you need your very gas-intensive tech units. I'd argue maelstrom works fairly well vs clumped hydras too, but I'm no P and I have a thing for dark archons, so don't quote me. Snow did make one. Didn't work too well. Also, I feel like people are being a little hard on Effort. Dude just got back from the army and made it into the Ro16. | ||
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