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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#241
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#242
On July 26 2007 04:17 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:13 Orome wrote:
rA won\'t lose to a rookie Terran no matter the map.^^

Orome, what do you think Mania is?


He's CJ, that's different. :p
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:40 GMT
#243
yea... i knew i was getting the two names mixed up

i mean "mania" is so much easier to type than "fantasy"
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:41 GMT
#244
On July 26 2007 04:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
yea... i knew i was getting the two names mixed up

i mean "mania" is so much easier to type than "fantasy"

What about typing "free" instead? All letters are in the same place here :p
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:41 GMT
#245
Child threw away countless units while at the same time barely utilizing defiliers. He failed to cast a single plague all game, then proceeded to throw away ultras like they were zerglings.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:42 GMT
#246
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
July 25 2007 19:42 GMT
#247
wo "early" gg....lol
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:44 GMT
#248
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:45 GMT
#249
seems liek fantasy ups his game when he's in the lead and has control, rather than when he is placed in a tough spot and needs that extra umph?

dunno it just kinda seemed that way from the difference in his play b/w the first half and 2nd half of that game.
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#250
So now Ra has to beat fantasy the 2nd time to make it to MSL.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#251
On July 26 2007 04:44 Organ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.

There aren't many good zergs
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#252
On July 26 2007 04:45 thedeadhaji wrote:
seems liek fantasy ups his game when he's in the lead and has control, rather than when he is placed in a tough spot and needs that extra umph?

dunno it just kinda seemed that way from the difference in his play b/w the first half and 2nd half of that game.


Seconded. Hard to say though, the amount spectators have seen his play is pretty limited. Maybe it is just rookie nerves.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:46 GMT
#253
On July 26 2007 04:44 Organ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:40 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:38 Organ wrote:
TvZ is imba.

Unless the Z is actually good, yes.

Did you see the statistics from MSL prelims? TvZ was about 80-50, while ZvP 42-40 and PvT - 49-40. Horrible imbalance. And ZvP is considered to be the less balanced matchup.


current maps are P favoring, pros are consistently saying this.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:48 GMT
#254
Cheese builds anyone?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:48 GMT
#255
on desperado? only thing i can think of would be a fast gas dt drop.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:49 GMT
#256
which i feel like ra himself did and failed in last msl? (something liek proxying his templar tech at 6 expo)
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:50 GMT
#257
desperado.

ra at 5
fantasy at 11
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 25 2007 19:50 GMT
#258
fantasy needs to learn to mine from teh most efficient positions
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#259
pp?
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 25 2007 19:51 GMT
#260
On July 26 2007 04:42 Daranee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2007 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On July 26 2007 04:35 Daranee wrote:
Wow. the same fantasy that Draco beat....is playing SO well

Are you serious? I hate to be negative but its more like a battle of who can play worse...



His late game management and the amount of actions he's doing is what is really impressive. He controlled his large force very well. He maneurvered them across the map, while dropping and finishing off expos with his idle troops. His play really impressed me =T

Child is really good at making T's look good. Notice how mania seemed to effortlessly roll over him as well? Fantasys macro was strong though, i'll give you that. Consistant pump. And his "timing" vs ultras was good too, I suppose. But it had more to do with Child losing all his units before ultras came...then when ultras where out, tossing them at fantasy with little back up. Considering how far ahead child was after he completely destroyed fantasy's first ball of mnm/tank, he should have had a lot better mid/late game performance. I mean he had what 8+ lurkers after that fight? Maybe fantasy had a significant upgrade lead as I couldn't see child's upgrades, but even then, child completely failed to control fantasy's vessel count and get defliers into play effectively. When a zerg doesnt even take advantage of the power of plague even once you know something is wrong with his game management.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
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