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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:35:13
March 31 2020 08:49 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Tuesday, Mar 31 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
ENG Afreeca Stream (Tastosis)


Matchups and Maps



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(Z)ZerO              (Z)Larva






Results


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Recommended Games


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Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 1?

Yes (13)
 
65%

If you have time (4)
 
20%

No (3)
 
15%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
58%

If you have time (7)
 
37%

No (1)
 
5%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
73%

If you have time (4)
 
27%

No (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 4?

Yes (24)
 
96%

If you have time (1)
 
4%

No (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 5?

Yes (9)
 
39%

No (8)
 
35%

If you have time (6)
 
26%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 31 2020 08:57 GMT
#2
show us hive tech zvz zero
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 31 2020 09:03 GMT
#3
really hope the games go to game 5 so i can see some crazy games on inner covern

also hive tech ZvZ please T_T
POGGERS
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 09:04 GMT
#4
Let's hope it won't be stomp. ZerO looks stronger than ever and Larva seemed prepared.
sunbeams are never made like me...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 09:55 GMT
#5
On Jaedong Stream he and Bisu are waiting for Zero vs Larva !
Let's go Zero !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4235 Posts
March 31 2020 10:01 GMT
#6
let's hope this is not going to be a quick ZvZ series..

hope for ZerO in 5 gruelling games
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
March 31 2020 10:05 GMT
#7
Who have more chances to beat Flash in semifinal?

Larva gogogo, you deserved semifinal. ZerO you in next ASL))
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
March 31 2020 10:05 GMT
#8
Larva 3:1
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova278 Posts
March 31 2020 10:06 GMT
#9
What we all want to see today?

Some game on 20+ minutes with Queen, Devourers and defilers, isn`t?))
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 10:08 GMT
#10
Cheering for Larva here. Hoping he can pull through with a victory.
Artosis loves Starcraft
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
March 31 2020 10:11 GMT
#11
As much as I like Larva, I think he has near 0 chance vs Flash.

Flash vs Zero
Bisu vs Light

That's as near a perfect semis as I can imagine.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 10:15 GMT
#12
both players with excellent music choice today
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 10:20 GMT
#13
noooo zero
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 10:21 GMT
#14
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 1?

Yes (13)
 
65%

If you have time (4)
 
20%

No (3)
 
15%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5055 Posts
March 31 2020 10:21 GMT
#15
Tricked!
Taxes are for Terrans
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
March 31 2020 10:22 GMT
#16
Ah why did I liquibet Zero... Zzzzzz
it's not just a music it's something else
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 10:23 GMT
#17
Nice work Larva. Loved the creep colony at the natural to throw Queen off.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 10:23 GMT
#18
Yeah, the breaks today are probably going to be longer than the games, brilliant.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 10:24 GMT
#19
Nice mindgame, I really like it. From now on Larva wins if he can finish the game before mutas are out. Zero's mutalisk control is superb.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 10:26:27
March 31 2020 10:26 GMT
#20
Isn't Zero notoriously bad at ZvZ?
Or am I remembering wrongly?
Taxes are for Terrans
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 31 2020 10:27 GMT
#21
Larva did some homework
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 10:29:36
March 31 2020 10:29 GMT
#22
They are both notoriously bad at ZvZ.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 10:33 GMT
#23
Larva doesn't have a spire. Queen might have this.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 10:34 GMT
#24
Larva already has spores set up, I think Zero wouldn't do much damage and Larva will safely defend his nat.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5055 Posts
March 31 2020 10:35 GMT
#25
There's hope for a hive game!
Taxes are for Terrans
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 10:41 GMT
#26
theres hive, but I doubt there will be hive tech.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 10:41:49
March 31 2020 10:41 GMT
#27
there's no way zero lets larva gets to any hive tech
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 10:44:22
March 31 2020 10:43 GMT
#28
gg, well played Zero. Denying the ling runbys till you have a decisive advanatge.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 31 2020 10:43 GMT
#29
awww almost got our Hive ZvZ
POGGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 10:43 GMT
#30
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
58%

If you have time (7)
 
37%

No (1)
 
5%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 10:43 GMT
#31
good work zero!

1-1
nice base trade
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5055 Posts
March 31 2020 10:44 GMT
#32
Sloppy extractor maintenance by Larva.. should've put more spores to defend his gas imo. Then the hive tech was pretty much locked down..
Taxes are for Terrans
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 10:47 GMT
#33
A bit bad ling micro at start and losing extractors over and over from Larva cost him the game.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 10:53 GMT
#34
Got Artosis confused me now. This was 9 Pool vs Overgas right?
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 31 2020 10:53 GMT
#35
yeah, big advantage for larva, right?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 10:54 GMT
#36
That one ling running past the gap in the ling blockade.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 31 2020 10:58 GMT
#37
woah that was really good muta control from zero
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 31 2020 10:58 GMT
#38
this is a good ZvZ
Liquipedia
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:02:30
March 31 2020 10:59 GMT
#39
Excellent scourge targeting from Zero. I thought Larva would win the engagement for sure, but Zero's micro proved me wrong.

I wrote that and then a few seconds later Zero's mutas run into a bunch of scourge lol.

Holy, Zero's mutas micro is impressive against all those scourge. Larva surrounded the mutas from 3 sides with scourge but Zero managed to micro it out.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 11:01 GMT
#40
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
73%

If you have time (4)
 
27%

No (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 11:02 GMT
#41
ZerO has just excellent muta micro
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:04:28
March 31 2020 11:02 GMT
#42
Told you, Larva never gonna win a single muta game. I wonder if Larva needs to make ton of spores and try to win ground game?
sunbeams are never made like me...
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 31 2020 11:02 GMT
#43
Kinda expected that Zero has superior micro to Larva.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 31 2020 11:04 GMT
#44
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
March 31 2020 11:04 GMT
#45
Zero is straight up better at those micro battles and it shows. Insane targeting, especially with so many scourge on such a wide angle.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
March 31 2020 11:05 GMT
#46
On March 31 2020 20:04 Disregard wrote:
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.


JD casting a zvz makes me want to learn Korean.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
March 31 2020 11:05 GMT
#47
Thats more like it. Hopefully Zero can keep his nerves together.
it's not just a music it's something else
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:06 GMT
#48
On March 31 2020 20:04 Disregard wrote:
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.


Man if Afurica didn't lag I would watch that instead of clueless Tastosis.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:07:55
March 31 2020 11:07 GMT
#49
What did they just explain about HTs not morphing to Archons properly?

Man these "Starcraft Geography" or how it's called looks amazing. So well done.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 11:07 GMT
#50
On March 31 2020 20:06 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:04 Disregard wrote:
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.


Man if Afurica didn't lag I would watch that instead of clueless Tastosis.

If you put the quality to high instead of source it doesn't lag for me.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:08:26
March 31 2020 11:08 GMT
#51
On March 31 2020 20:06 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:04 Disregard wrote:
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.


Man if Afurica didn't lag I would watch that instead of clueless Tastosis.

In fact, over 46.500 , at maximum point ! Amazing !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:09 GMT
#52
On March 31 2020 20:07 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:06 outscar wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:04 Disregard wrote:
Wow, 40k viewers watching JD & Bisu cast this match.


Man if Afurica didn't lag I would watch that instead of clueless Tastosis.

If you put the quality to high instead of source it doesn't lag for me.


Thx, looks like it's ok for now.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 11:10 GMT
#53
On March 31 2020 19:53 kerpal wrote:
yeah, big advantage for larva, right?


Not really? I mean my grasp of ZvZ is quite bad but I feel like those 2 builds are very similar in outcome.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 31 2020 11:11 GMT
#54
9 pool vs 12 hatch should be good for zero
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:11 GMT
#55
Bye bye Larva seems likely.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 31 2020 11:12 GMT
#56
larva with his head in his hands already lol
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
March 31 2020 11:12 GMT
#57
larva scouts the lings and puts his head in his hands lol
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:13:01
March 31 2020 11:12 GMT
#58
Zero's spire was a bit late there.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 31 2020 11:12 GMT
#59
On March 31 2020 20:10 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 19:53 kerpal wrote:
yeah, big advantage for larva, right?


Not really? I mean my grasp of ZvZ is quite bad but I feel like those 2 builds are very similar in outcome.


the timings are similar but you have a bunch more gas to get scourge out in the first fight iirc - there was a key fight in zero's base where he micro'd really well to kill the scourge, which i think even it up.

Ooooor i could be totally wrong
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:12 GMT
#60
Same scenario as game 2, hope Larva will put 5 spores each base at least.
sunbeams are never made like me...
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 11:14 GMT
#61
Well that should be GG.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 11:15 GMT
#62
Zero exploited that he will get ling speed faster well there what with that 4 ling runby into the main.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22111 Posts
March 31 2020 11:16 GMT
#63
main gas for Larva is going to get sniped again I bet.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 31 2020 11:17 GMT
#64
INNNNER COVEN!!!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:17 GMT
#65
Larva leading, FFS make more spores.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:19:07
March 31 2020 11:17 GMT
#66
Wow, Zero has 4 drones left. He didn't leave some mutas behind to defend this time. But larva doesn't have the spore placement to defend nat gas I think.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 11:19 GMT
#67
Zero is dead.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
March 31 2020 11:20 GMT
#68
Wow what a beautiful game by Larva!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 31 2020 11:20 GMT
#69
YES game 5!!!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 11:20 GMT
#70
Wow, I thought Larva was screwed when he was losing those drones early on. Awesome work Larva nice.
Artosis loves Starcraft
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 11:21 GMT
#71
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 4?

Yes (24)
 
96%

If you have time (1)
 
4%

No (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 11:21 GMT
#72
I will be so upset if Zero loses
ZvZ is his weakest match-up!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
March 31 2020 11:22 GMT
#73
there is brood war and then there is zvz. A whole different game.
Drone is a way of living
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 31 2020 11:23 GMT
#74
On March 31 2020 20:21 prosatan wrote:
I will be so upset if Zero loses
ZvZ is his weakest match-up!


Why? Larva seems like the coolest guy ever, im cheering for him for charisma alone
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 11:23 GMT
#75
On March 31 2020 20:20 NoS-Craig wrote:
Wow, I thought Larva was screwed when he was losing those drones early on. Awesome work Larva nice.


He lost 3 drones which was probably less than he was ahead at that point. Zero didn't use his map control afterwards do do anything unfortunately.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 11:23 GMT
#76
On March 31 2020 20:23 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:21 prosatan wrote:
I will be so upset if Zero loses
ZvZ is his weakest match-up!


Why? Larva seems like the coolest guy ever, im cheering for him for charisma alone

I think Zero has a better chance vs Flash
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 31 2020 11:25 GMT
#77
On March 31 2020 20:23 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:23 D10 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:21 prosatan wrote:
I will be so upset if Zero loses
ZvZ is his weakest match-up!


Why? Larva seems like the coolest guy ever, im cheering for him for charisma alone

I think Zero has a better chance vs Flash


Larva always has struggled against Flash, Zero definitely has a better chance.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
March 31 2020 11:25 GMT
#78
50k viewers at JD's channel commentating with Bisu
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 31 2020 11:25 GMT
#79
On March 31 2020 20:23 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:23 D10 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:21 prosatan wrote:
I will be so upset if Zero loses
ZvZ is his weakest match-up!


Why? Larva seems like the coolest guy ever, im cheering for him for charisma alone

I think Zero has a better chance vs Flash


So you want Flash to lose eh

I want Flash to win the whole thing, but also cheer for Bisu or Larva
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
fafalecureuil
Profile Joined January 2010
France69 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:27:09
March 31 2020 11:26 GMT
#80
Larva sent back his first overlord right before scouting Queen's position.
Preventing him from disclosing his position and so he earned the few seconds he needed to defend against Queen's first lings.
Beautiful.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 31 2020 11:28 GMT
#81
On March 31 2020 20:26 fafalecureuil wrote:
Larva sent back his first overlord right before scouting Queen's position.
Preventing him from disclosing his position and so he earned the few seconds he needed to defend against Queen's first lings.
Beautiful.


Also, just before the last push, Queen killed a solo ling leaving larvas base and I think he assumed he was a straggler from a bigger pack heading into his base and went into defense mode bringing all his mutas back, took him some time to realize it was a push and that gave larva breathing room
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 11:34 GMT
#82
Ahhhh Spire survives by 25 hp.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
March 31 2020 11:34 GMT
#83
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 5?

Yes (9)
 
39%

No (8)
 
35%

If you have time (6)
 
26%

23 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Larva Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8529 Posts
March 31 2020 11:34 GMT
#84
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GG ZERO!!!!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
March 31 2020 11:35 GMT
#85
what a ballsy all-in by larva LOL too bad it didnt work out
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 31 2020 11:35 GMT
#86
Well that was anti-climatic.
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 31 2020 11:35 GMT
#87
NOOOOOOOOOOO larva =(

F
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:36:45
March 31 2020 11:35 GMT
#88
Think that strat by Larva could have worked if Zero didn't scout first with his overlord, once he got in he knew something was off with the late Lair and went to scout the middle.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3127 Posts
March 31 2020 11:36 GMT
#89
Damn I was really rooting for Larva to make it through. GG to Zero.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:36 GMT
#90
Feeling so bad for Larva, he was so unsure and was touching his head after going to this allin not knowing if he should do that.
sunbeams are never made like me...
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 31 2020 11:38 GMT
#91
What an anti-climatic end.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 11:42:00
March 31 2020 11:41 GMT
#92
I will laugh so hard if flash wins asl10 as random

but i guess it kinda makes sense, flash is the most analyzed player and random is essentially un-analyzable
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 31 2020 11:41 GMT
#93
Lmao, STPL build from Larva
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
March 31 2020 11:42 GMT
#94
yay zero vs flash
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 31 2020 11:42 GMT
#95
I feel like I'm the only one who felt that was an exciting end.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:43 GMT
#96
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!
sunbeams are never made like me...
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
March 31 2020 11:45 GMT
#97
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 31 2020 11:46 GMT
#98
On March 31 2020 20:45 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes


I would've liked to see Larva but lately he was getting squashed by FlaSh, we can only hope if ZerO will hold his ground. And FlaSh must be prepping even harder after being barely eliminated last time.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
March 31 2020 11:52 GMT
#99
That was great zvz. Great mindgames and + Show Spoiler +
finally Zero makes it!
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
March 31 2020 11:59 GMT
#100
Zero has a chance. If he can take the first game vs Flash, all is possible.
Larva would have very little chance any way you look at it. But those were very nice ZvZs!
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22111 Posts
March 31 2020 12:10 GMT
#101
On March 31 2020 20:46 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:45 D10 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes


I would've liked to see Larva but lately he was getting squashed by FlaSh, we can only hope if ZerO will hold his ground. And FlaSh must be prepping even harder after being barely eliminated last time.
Yeah, after his close call I expect Flash to be extra prepared for Zero.
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
March 31 2020 12:16 GMT
#102
What's this about Flash offracing? What did he say?
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
March 31 2020 12:21 GMT
#103
Exciting non-stop action games. Too bad no hive ZvZ

Just curious - is there any viable hydra build for ZvZ in early or mid-game? Or is spire the only option?
gg no re thx
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 31 2020 12:24 GMT
#104
On March 31 2020 21:21 RKC wrote:
Exciting non-stop action games. Too bad no hive ZvZ

Just curious - is there any viable hydra build for ZvZ in early or mid-game? Or is spire the only option?

Hydralisk builds in ZvZ are doable, but not viable at progamer level.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
March 31 2020 14:15 GMT
#105
On March 31 2020 20:45 D10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes


Don't think so, Zero is a really strong player and it will be a close series. There was a bo9 in Starcraft End of The World Series and Flash barely won (5-4) so people are underestimating Zero abit.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8641 Posts
March 31 2020 15:15 GMT
#106
On March 31 2020 23:15 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 20:45 D10 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes


Don't think so, Zero is a really strong player and it will be a close series. There was a bo9 in Starcraft End of The World Series and Flash barely won (5-4) so people are underestimating Zero abit.


Well, it all depends on whether zero can keep up with his nerves. He definitely has the skill to do it. In a lot of ways he is one of the most brilliant zergs ever imho but has always been held back by some other characteristics such as his nerves.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-31 15:30:59
March 31 2020 15:30 GMT
#107
On March 31 2020 20:41 Ej_ wrote:
Lmao, STPL build from Larva


The eCiN special!

It was close to working as well!

Good games, im sad Larva lost but I think he didn't have as good as a chance vs FlaSh as ZerO does. FlaSh is like Larvas mental block, he gets crazy tilted vs FlaSh.

On April 01 2020 00:15 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2020 23:15 Dante08 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:45 D10 wrote:
On March 31 2020 20:43 outscar wrote:
"I'm going to work as hard as possible to eliminate FlaSh so he will never think he could play random or offrace in a tournament"
My boi Zero!


Too bad he is likely to be destroyed by Flash, I think action is much better than Zero and he got owned by a Flash that was making a lot of mistakes


Don't think so, Zero is a really strong player and it will be a close series. There was a bo9 in Starcraft End of The World Series and Flash barely won (5-4) so people are underestimating Zero abit.


Well, it all depends on whether zero can keep up with his nerves. He definitely has the skill to do it. In a lot of ways he is one of the most brilliant zergs ever imho but has always been held back by some other characteristics such as his nerves.


The fact he struggles with nerves surprises me given how amazingly good he was in proleague. I guess it's the difference between fighting for your team or fighting primarily for yourself. The pressure must be much higher.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 31 2020 15:42 GMT
#108
I'm 0-2 on Ro8 predictions rn

Pls don't die Bisu
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
March 31 2020 15:55 GMT
#109
Fun games, loved the choice for Larva to go with such a wild build in g5, shame it didn't work though
Mine gas, build tanks.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 31 2020 17:09 GMT
#110
Great games overall. Zero was clearly the better player, but Larva prepared very well. Very unlucky on the last map to get scouted first, but if it had worked, it would have been crazy. Overall a really great set of games this week.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
March 31 2020 17:15 GMT
#111
this is set to become one of the sickest Ro4 of late
blabberrrrr
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1109 Posts
March 31 2020 19:21 GMT
#112
Was rooting for Larva but ZerO is a better opponent to give Flash a run for his money
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 31 2020 22:23 GMT
#113
This was a fun series. I anticipated larva winning due to another thread that recently popped up, but glad that I was in for a surprise. On one hand, I'm glad that ZerO won because I truly believe he would be a better match for Flash. On the other hand, I feel like ZerO is somewhat overrated and he always flounders. I would also rate Action above him in ZvT prowess so I don't think he'll beat Flash but guess if he manages to take a game, I'd be happy haha.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
April 01 2020 00:44 GMT
#114
On April 01 2020 07:23 BigFan wrote:
This was a fun series. I anticipated larva winning due to another thread that recently popped up, but glad that I was in for a surprise. On one hand, I'm glad that ZerO won because I truly believe he would be a better match for Flash. On the other hand, I feel like ZerO is somewhat overrated and he always flounders. I would also rate Action above him in ZvT prowess so I don't think he'll beat Flash but guess if he manages to take a game, I'd be happy haha.


Hopefully ZerO is emboldened by Action’s performance. After seeing that, he has to feel like he has a chance.

The downside for ZerO is Flash is more likely to prepare a fancy build or cheese him than he was against Action. Action got to prepare for a more predictable version of Flash than Zero will face.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
April 01 2020 00:51 GMT
#115
Just watched the VODs, great series for a ZvZ. Rest of the Bo8 has a lot to live up to after these first two matches.
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Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
April 01 2020 01:08 GMT
#116
ZvZ just seems like such a stressful matchup
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 01 2020 01:18 GMT
#117
On April 01 2020 10:08 Brainojack wrote:
ZvZ just seems like such a stressful matchup

After a long day of trying to macro on the ladder it seems like an impossible dream to play a matchup where your economy is like 7 drones mining minerals
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 01 2020 01:45 GMT
#118
ngl this was the best ZvZ series i've watched in a long time

just a bit sad larva didn't make it, especially after seeing him pull through in game 4 after he semi gave-up upon seeing the lings, which you can see the player cam at 1:20:06

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InDi
Profile Joined April 2010
Spain90 Posts
April 01 2020 02:21 GMT
#119
Game 4 even Larva knew he had lost, but Zero choked, he should have seen the first overlord when he moved out with lings near his cliff, if he didn't he still saw the 2nd overlord going on diagonal from bottom right, and still he sent 5 lings to the bottom left. If he had reacted and sent all the lings to where Larva was the damage would have been probably too much already :/
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
April 01 2020 05:47 GMT
#120
And Tastosis completely missed it. Larva putting his hands on the head!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
April 01 2020 09:56 GMT
#121
On April 01 2020 14:47 GorillaPimp wrote:
And Tastosis completely missed it. Larva putting his hands on the head!

Zero took his hands off the keyboard and mouse a ton during that series. It was like he had face sweating issues.
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Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
April 01 2020 16:55 GMT
#122
On March 31 2020 20:16 Gorsameth wrote:
main gas for Larva is going to get sniped again I bet.

Great callout for game 4, strange that never happened

On March 31 2020 21:16 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
What's this about Flash offracing? What did he say?
here 1h49m

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3N4zUMQTA&t=1h49m


On April 01 2020 10:45 konadora wrote:
ngl this was the best ZvZ series i've watched in a long time

just a bit sad larva didn't make it, especially after seeing him pull through in game 4 after he semi gave-up upon seeing the lings, which you can see the player cam at 1:20:06

wow didn't see that

good series!
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