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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 23 2020 03:28 GMT
#141
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!

I guess we watched a different round of 24 because outside of the TvTs the map has been horrid.
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany101 Posts
March 23 2020 07:16 GMT
#142
On March 23 2020 06:40 EsportsJohn wrote:
Maybe it's time for me to set up the ENG2 stream for ASL again.... :thinking:


Yeah, go for it. This also goes out to Qikz, Cadenzie and BisuDagger, all great casters. I would watch the hell out of a team of two of you guys!
kinda right, kinda wrong
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8900 Posts
March 23 2020 07:56 GMT
#143
On March 23 2020 09:55 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I doubt it. Love the map and all of the new mechanics that it makes people consider, but I think there's definite imbalance, and at least right now, it's a forced style that I don't think many people want to play. People still too comfortable with Circuit Breaker type maps. Reminds me of Troy in a way. Troy was a weird ass map that always resulted in crazy games.


BRING BACK FIGHTING SPIRIT !!!
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
March 23 2020 16:40 GMT
#144
I love all these new guys coming into the ASL. Ample, Brain, Soma.

Brain had some sick games today. He's looking scary.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-23 17:00:42
March 23 2020 16:59 GMT
#145
On March 23 2020 12:28 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!

I guess we watched a different round of 24 because outside of the TvTs the map has been horrid.

I guess we did. The PvZ's have been exhilarating for me. Especially the one game that went to devourers in the Ro24 and Larva fighting for his life in the Ro16. Also enjoyed the carrier cliff micro.
On March 24 2020 01:40 Sabu113 wrote:
I love all these new guys coming into the ASL. Ample, Brain, Soma.

Brain had some sick games today. He's looking scary.

Sad Brain didn't make it because almost all of his games were incredible. I hoped he'd get first or last so I could see more ZvZ, but I wasn't disappointed at all to see more high IQ Brain games.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
March 23 2020 22:46 GMT
#146
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.
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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
March 23 2020 22:59 GMT
#147
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


Action was THE zerg after Effort, before wristsaegi took him. 2019 Aprill he was smashing everyone. Another great player who seems to be succumbing to health issues ☹️
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
March 23 2020 23:41 GMT
#148
On March 24 2020 07:59 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


Action was THE zerg after Effort, before wristsaegi took him. 2019 Aprill he was smashing everyone. Another great player who seems to be succumbing to health issues ☹️

Hasn't succumbed just yet though. Ro4 last season, and looking strong this time around too.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 24 2020 00:43 GMT
#149
I'm not 100% positive Action won because he was just "a way better player" (although he probably is). In his post-game interview, he talked about how Brain was playing really well, so he decided to just play super safe (aka make a lot of units). Soulkey is much more of a passive late game Zerg, so it's not surprising that Brain's aggro map control style worked really well against him. Action, on the other hand, played much more aggressively to fight back for map control and keep the Protoss army from just freely walking out onto the map without an observer or good positioning. The result was that Brain ended up getting his first army smashed, and then his whole game plan of getting map control and staying even with the Zerg on bases fell apart. (He also got ee han timing'd).

It shows that although Brain looked brilliant in some ways, he still lacks the polish to be a top player. He's still got some glaring weaknesses that dynamically change his ability to maintain the lead and close out games. A little more work on becoming more well-rounded by playing against more aggressive Zergs will go a long way for him, imo.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3695 Posts
March 24 2020 01:09 GMT
#150
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I guess you missed the game where bisu bobd some poor nerd with a reaver and a shuttle.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 24 2020 03:31 GMT
#151
On March 24 2020 10:09 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I guess you missed the game where bisu bobd some poor nerd with a reaver and a shuttle.

No game where Bisu wins is a bad one lmao
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-24 04:39:21
March 24 2020 04:25 GMT
#152
Brain vs Soulkey was great. I’m sorry to see an excellent player like Soulkey get knocked out, but if it must be, then it might as well happen in style.

Tasteless and Artosis know a lot about the game. I’ve been playing and watching for ages and I still learn new stuff when I listen to their casts... the 1% of the time they can pay attention to what’s happening. The other 99% of the time they’re off on their own world. I prefer the Korean casters, and I don’t speak Korean. They can be fun and silly, but they get hyped at important moments when Tastosis are still joking about an SCV that walked in a funny way 10 minutes ago.

Good casters use downtime to fill you in on stuff that’s not so obvious:
• So-and-so is losing — how are they trying to turn the tables? What’s in their mind? (Expand/harass/timing attack/wait for upgrade)
• That move that worked so badly, what was so-and-so thinking? Why did it seem worth a try?
• So-and-so hasn’t scouted the thing yet. What are they assuming is going on? What are they hedging against?
• That play only worked because so-and-so did that thing amazingly. If it had been slightly different, we’d be looking at XYZ right now.

You know, we can all see the game unfolding. I enjoy a good PLAAAYGUUU moment as much as the next guy, but when you’re not caught up in a battle, you can spend that downtime more profitably than just chilling and talking about nothing.
May the BeSt man win.
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 24 2020 06:43 GMT
#153
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


I think Action is just that good. He's not flashy but he is so goddamn solid. I always think of Soulkey or Zero before him, but while those players have more talent, Action seems more consistent.

I think SK and Zero are better vT, but Action is slightly more reliable vP.
Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-24 21:54:38
March 24 2020 19:09 GMT
#154
such a good games so far, protoss players fighting so brave in base trade situations, stork vs larva, brain vs soulkey.
Brain looking like a champion already, havent seen such a solid protoss player in a long time.
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