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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 13:09:08
March 22 2020 03:02 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Sunday, Mar 22 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 9


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | NoRegreT


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
ENG Afreeca Stream (Tastosis)


Matchups and Maps



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(Z)Action              (P)Sea.KH
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(Z)Soma              (Z)Soulkey






Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Action vs Sea.KH] +
Poll: Recommend Sea.KH vs Action?

Yes (19)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sea.KH vs Action?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Soma vs Soulkey] +
Poll: Recommend Soma vs Soulkey?

If you have time (8)
 
80%

No (2)
 
20%

Yes (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs Soulkey?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

No (5)
 
71%

Yes (1)
 
14%

If you have time (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

Yes (15)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 3?

Yes (11)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 1?

If you have time (4)
 
67%

No (2)
 
33%

Yes (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

Yes (18)
 
90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 3?

Yes (29)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Final Game] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

Yes (8)
 
73%

If you have time (2)
 
18%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

If you have time (2)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
March 22 2020 03:14 GMT
#2
My group of death !
Hoping for Action/Soulkey but I think Soma/Sea.KH will advance
CeJo
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
March 22 2020 04:24 GMT
#3
So much Z in this group. I think the 4 players have realistic chances to advance. Let's go Soulkey!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 22 2020 05:08 GMT
#4
Does Sea.KH even have a chance? I’ve never heard of him but would love to be surprised by epic games.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1146 Posts
March 22 2020 05:22 GMT
#5
just curious what seaKH will come up with since his general PvZ play isn't really stellar.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
March 22 2020 06:02 GMT
#6
I feel pity for these players. Most of them will play their worst match-up and zvz is more about the luck than it would be desirable. Hope to see Soma and SK advance.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 06:26:25
March 22 2020 06:08 GMT
#7
i'm taking sea2 and soulkey. this new guy is a fuckin champ.
i think sea2 goes by 'brain?' just based on the ro24 vod
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
March 22 2020 09:12 GMT
#8
On March 22 2020 14:08 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Does Sea.KH even have a chance? I’ve never heard of him but would love to be surprised by epic games.


Yes he does.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 22 2020 09:12 GMT
#9
No, he doesn't.

EZ ZvZ group for Action.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 09:24 GMT
#10
Soulkey & Soma FTW!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
March 22 2020 09:24 GMT
#11
How can you say so many random statements with 46k posts is a mystery. Action zvz is his weakest mu, by far
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland576 Posts
March 22 2020 09:48 GMT
#12
On March 22 2020 18:24 TornadoSteve wrote:
How can you say so many random statements with 46k posts is a mystery. Action zvz is his weakest mu, by far


Action and Soma have shutted down their streams to prepare. Soulkey and Sea.Kh not so much (not sure about Sea but Soulkey was playing BGH yesterday...) I think Action can advance because Soma and Soulkey both are hit or miss in ZvZ
it's not just a music it's something else
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 09:56 GMT
#13
heart: brain and soulkey head: soma and soulkey
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 10:06 GMT
#14
Sea making it out would be a huge upset. Him taking a game would be a surprise.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 10:17 GMT
#15
Soulkey can't afford to not stream, he literally needs money lmao.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 10:29 GMT
#16
when i saw brain put his ht in shuttles in his ro 24 pvt group i knew he was something special. even bisu forgets to do that.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 22 2020 10:35 GMT
#17
oh lawd artosis called brain handsome. he is destined for greatness.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 10:38 GMT
#18
Why is Brain so behind in supply while being ahead in bases all game? Macro slipped?
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
March 22 2020 10:47 GMT
#19
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 10:48 GMT
#20
Poll: Recommend Sea.KH vs Action?

Yes (19)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sea.KH vs Action?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 10:48 GMT
#21
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 10:49 GMT
#22
GG. What a game. Shuttles and HT against scourge, maelstrom on lurkers, really nice game to watch.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 10:49 GMT
#23
Brain has big brain, mechanics not backing that up tho
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
March 22 2020 10:49 GMT
#24
hmm seems like invested in too many dragoons which inevitably bled out in the mid-late game against cracklings... roaming without the powerful scarab-storm aoe
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att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
March 22 2020 10:52 GMT
#25
On March 22 2020 19:38 GorillaPimp wrote:
Why is Brain so behind in supply while being ahead in bases all game? Macro slipped?

Because protoss only had like 2 bases mining for most of the game, protoss probes drain the mineral patches so fast that he cant build up a big supply of units
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
March 22 2020 10:53 GMT
#26
Too many defenses in base 4 and few gates ... and way too much time wasted in microing in useless situation ... but this P will get through i think, his defense on the 3 hatch push was amazing. I 'll cheer for Brain!!!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 10:55 GMT
#27
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1208 Posts
March 22 2020 10:55 GMT
#28
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
March 22 2020 10:59 GMT
#29
On March 22 2020 19:55 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'

100% agreed, that one was a really tough watch..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:02 GMT
#30
Poll: Recommend Soma vs Soulkey?

If you have time (8)
 
80%

No (2)
 
20%

Yes (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soma vs Soulkey?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 11:02 GMT
#31
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 11:03 GMT
#32
On March 22 2020 19:59 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:55 Xeln4g4 wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'

100% agreed, that one was a really tough watch..

still better than seeing your every post complaining or being negative tho.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 11:04 GMT
#33
On March 22 2020 19:59 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:55 Xeln4g4 wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'

100% agreed, that one was a really tough watch..

I like how informal and relaxed they are. It makes it feel like i'm hanging out with my mates having a laugh.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 11:08:32
March 22 2020 11:07 GMT
#34
On March 22 2020 20:04 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:59 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 Xeln4g4 wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'

100% agreed, that one was a really tough watch..

I like how informal and relaxed they are. It makes it feel like i'm hanging out with my mates having a laugh.

I think the people complaining care more about a focused only related starcraft match. I think tastosis is great cuz they offer much much more.i mean i could have a good time watching them casting two ants race aswell. i find them really funny lol
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:12 GMT
#35
On March 22 2020 20:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:04 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:59 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 Xeln4g4 wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh


watch korean commentary


At least, this time, they didnt just laugh hard all time ... last cast was 'meh'

100% agreed, that one was a really tough watch..

I like how informal and relaxed they are. It makes it feel like i'm hanging out with my mates having a laugh.

I think the people complaining care more about a focused only related starcraft match. I think tastosis is great cuz they offer much much more.i mean i could have a good time watching them casting two ants race aswell. i find them really funny lol


yeah, I can see whats going on anyway.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 11:13 GMT
#36
On March 22 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.

I care about Tastosis bringing back old and new people into watching starcraft. Elitism is not going to work if we want more people getting into BW. The numbers speak for themselves. Back when we had community casters as an alternative to Tastosis in ASL, there was a lot more watching Tastosis. And i love our community caster from both past and present, thats not the point. The point is that i want this game to attract interest from more than a few hundred people
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 11:18 GMT
#37
GG, such is ZvZ.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:19 GMT
#38
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

No (5)
 
71%

Yes (1)
 
14%

If you have time (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 11:19 GMT
#39
action looking very solid today.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 11:20 GMT
#40
On March 22 2020 20:13 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.

I care about Tastosis bringing back old and new people into watching starcraft. Elitism is not going to work if we want more people getting into BW. The numbers speak for themselves. Back when we had community casters as an alternative to Tastosis in ASL, there was a lot more watching Tastosis. And i love our community caster from both past and present, thats not the point. The point is that i want this game to attract interest from more than a few hundred people

What is elitism is blind commentator fanboyism that stops all the other potential English speaking commentators who would love the chance to commentate for the love of the game.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 11:24 GMT
#41
man i was about to post congrats action LOL.holy crap that hold by soma was Jaedong material.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 11:27 GMT
#42
Ha, that ling scout on the ninja base. Soma just knows.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:30 GMT
#43
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

Yes (15)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 11:30 GMT
#44
Soma is so sick.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 11:30 GMT
#45
soma with the star sense about the hidden base.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 22 2020 11:31 GMT
#46
The drone hold and then scouting the secret base

unf soma is so good
Zerghxhx
Profile Joined October 2019
China25 Posts
March 22 2020 11:31 GMT
#47
Go soma!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 11:35 GMT
#48
On March 22 2020 20:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:13 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.

I care about Tastosis bringing back old and new people into watching starcraft. Elitism is not going to work if we want more people getting into BW. The numbers speak for themselves. Back when we had community casters as an alternative to Tastosis in ASL, there was a lot more watching Tastosis. And i love our community caster from both past and present, thats not the point. The point is that i want this game to attract interest from more than a few hundred people

What is elitism is blind commentator fanboyism that stops all the other potential English speaking commentators who would love the chance to commentate for the love of the game.

The numbers peak for themselves. What more do i need to tell you? And yeah, calling everyone that likes tastosis and contributes to those numbers, as blind fanboys, seems pretty elitist.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 11:38:56
March 22 2020 11:37 GMT
#49
On March 22 2020 20:35 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:13 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.

I care about Tastosis bringing back old and new people into watching starcraft. Elitism is not going to work if we want more people getting into BW. The numbers speak for themselves. Back when we had community casters as an alternative to Tastosis in ASL, there was a lot more watching Tastosis. And i love our community caster from both past and present, thats not the point. The point is that i want this game to attract interest from more than a few hundred people

What is elitism is blind commentator fanboyism that stops all the other potential English speaking commentators who would love the chance to commentate for the love of the game.

The numbers peak for themselves. What more do i need to tell you? And yeah, calling everyone that likes tastosis and contributes to those numbers, as blind fanboys, seems pretty elitist.

And that's the problem. People can have personal opinions about commentary. But apparently you feel the need to bring up numbers, when there isn't really any alternative English casters. Let personal opinions be personal opinions, not some thing where you think the other guy is wrong. Especially when doing stupid tastosis stuff like mocking random reddit posts or endless 90s nostalgia in the middle of exciting, interesting action is hardly going to bring in new viewers.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:39 GMT
#50
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 3?

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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 11:39 GMT
#51
gg. go soma!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 11:40 GMT
#52
Season of Soma.
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
March 22 2020 11:41 GMT
#53
various progamers saying last game was ridiculous because of this map. soma was 50 mineral ++ ahead even with mining 3 on gas @1:30 minutes into the game.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:45 GMT
#54
soma's royal road continues
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 11:50 GMT
#55
On March 22 2020 20:37 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:35 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:20 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:13 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:55 tanngard wrote:
On March 22 2020 19:47 Terrorbladder wrote:
Artosis's commentary is just... ugh

I think he is great and lot of other people think so too. Or do you think its an accident that he is working as a professional commentator for 10 years?
So what if lots of other people think so. Maybe in the past when commentator standards were lax and korean translators low, but nowadays they just sound bored and stick to their routine of talking about poptarts and pokemon and how bros they are even when there is plenty happening on the screen. Everytime something happens outside completely normal standard game it's "scrappy" and they stop talking about strategy. I gave up watching them after they started their schtick of mocking random twitter posts and watched korean streams and never looked back.

I care about Tastosis bringing back old and new people into watching starcraft. Elitism is not going to work if we want more people getting into BW. The numbers speak for themselves. Back when we had community casters as an alternative to Tastosis in ASL, there was a lot more watching Tastosis. And i love our community caster from both past and present, thats not the point. The point is that i want this game to attract interest from more than a few hundred people

What is elitism is blind commentator fanboyism that stops all the other potential English speaking commentators who would love the chance to commentate for the love of the game.

The numbers peak for themselves. What more do i need to tell you? And yeah, calling everyone that likes tastosis and contributes to those numbers, as blind fanboys, seems pretty elitist.

And that's the problem. People can have personal opinions about commentary. But apparently you feel the need to bring up numbers, when there isn't really any alternative English casters. Let personal opinions be personal opinions, not some thing where you think the other guy is wrong. Especially when doing stupid tastosis stuff like mocking random reddit posts or endless 90s nostalgia in the middle of exciting, interesting action is hardly going to bring in new viewers.

I just told about how there used to be an alternative english cast and the number was not even close.

Problem with basing things off of opinions from internet comments, is that the people with negative opinions feel a much larger urge to share them. Most people are fine with tastosis. But you guys are effective in creating the image that we on TL don't like tastosis. We are "too good" for them. It's that elitism that people who have showned initial interest in BW have reported about being off putting to them.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 22 2020 11:51 GMT
#56
On March 22 2020 20:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
soma's royal road continues

Quite a long one too already in its second season.
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 11:55 GMT
#57
Soulkey handling Brain masterfully.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:56 GMT
#58
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 1?

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No (2)
 
33%

Yes (0)
 
0%

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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 11:57 GMT
#59
On March 22 2020 20:51 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
soma's royal road continues

Quite a long one too already in its second season.


oh seems like he did play last season
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 11:59 GMT
#60
The problem is, at Brain's level, playing Soulkey in a macro game is a death sentence. Not much to do but execute a timing attack or cheese extremely well.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 11:59:34
March 22 2020 11:59 GMT
#61
On March 22 2020 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 20:51 Ej_ wrote:
On March 22 2020 20:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
soma's royal road continues

Quite a long one too already in its second season.


oh seems like he did play last season



same group as flash so unfair and doesn't count lmao
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 12:09 GMT
#62
absolutely dismantled by dts. amazing
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 22 2020 12:09 GMT
#63
Brian very strong
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 12:09 GMT
#64
GG!!!! BRAIN TAKES GAME 2!!!!
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1146 Posts
March 22 2020 12:09 GMT
#65
lol so ladder protoss-ish
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 12:10 GMT
#66
GG. DT's for the win.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 12:10 GMT
#67
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

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90%

No (1)
 
5%

If you have time (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 12:10 GMT
#68
protoss..
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 12:10 GMT
#69
What in the actual fuck was that game?
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 12:10 GMT
#70
That was crazy...
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 22 2020 12:12 GMT
#71
WHAT

That was an amazing game. some of the most scrappy beautiful DT corsair shutdown i've ever seen, so fun to watch
tremblay_ok
Profile Joined March 2020
3 Posts
March 22 2020 12:18 GMT
#72
That game brought me back to 13 years ago. :')
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 12:20 GMT
#73
Pretty certain the mass DT play was unplanned. It looked like Brain forgot to start storm and got really lucky with the first poke. That's why he had so much gas and no defense at home, and I think the lack of storm confused Soulkey into doing a weird allin because Brain didn't have anything to defend.
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 12:24 GMT
#74
No way soulkey blows this
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 12:28:09
March 22 2020 12:25 GMT
#75
Hahaha, the cosairs nudge the ovies a bit to the right and the DT just walks in and kill all the workers undetected.

And now the nexus snipe failed with the nexus on 20 hp. Not Soulkey's game.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5585 Posts
March 22 2020 12:29 GMT
#76
Youtube chat always like this these days?
don't wall off against random
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
March 22 2020 12:29 GMT
#77
todays PvZ matchups were crazy
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
March 22 2020 12:31 GMT
#78
The PvZ today are amazing
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 22 2020 12:33 GMT
#79
double forge to recover from losing his first forge. 3/2 at 21 min.
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 12:36 GMT
#80
I can't believe Brain is going to beat SOULKEY!!!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 12:38 GMT
#81
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 3?

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100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

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Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 12:38 GMT
#82
I stand corrected. Wow. Brain defeats Soulkey in a 26-minute macro game. What the fuck?!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
March 22 2020 12:38 GMT
#83
Drunk Tastosis is fun
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6512 Posts
March 22 2020 12:38 GMT
#84
crap..
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 12:39 GMT
#85
My god, what a game. Brain wins out despite seemingly incapable of defending his own expansions. So many dead drones from storms and DT. Times like these I wish workers killed could be shown.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 12:40 GMT
#86
On March 22 2020 21:38 GorillaPimp wrote:
I stand corrected. Wow. Brain defeats Soulkey in a 26-minute macro game. What the fuck?!


Yeah, that was actually pretty damn solid macro play by Brain. I'm impressed. Sad to see Soulkey drop out. Especially in last place, this is crazy.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 12:40 GMT
#87
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 12:41:17
March 22 2020 12:40 GMT
#88
well, there were so many clutch points in that game that didnt really get talked about in the casting, kind of a shame. brain played a really good game.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
March 22 2020 12:41 GMT
#89
Very unexpected ro16. Shortest TvT group ever. Snow out. Soulkey out.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 12:42 GMT
#90
On March 22 2020 21:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
My god, what a game. Brain wins out despite seemingly incapable of defending his own expansions. So many dead drones from storms and DT. Times like these I wish workers killed could be shown.


Uh, what exactly are you talking about? He pretty much defended all his expansions that game?
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
March 22 2020 12:42 GMT
#91
Soulkey forgot how op DT’s are lmaooo

Also I did not see much obs sniping compared to other zergs. Soulkey lost an insane amount of lurkers that barely did anything.
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 12:42 GMT
#92
That was a masterful game by Brain. Whether he beats Action or not, that series put him on the map.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 22 2020 12:43 GMT
#93
oh my what a fun game. Brain's play was so solid, His macro play was on point
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1158 Posts
March 22 2020 12:44 GMT
#94
@TL overlords: can we finally get Brain's stream on the sidebar please?

Is this not enough.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 12:44 GMT
#95
On March 22 2020 21:42 Cush wrote:
Soulkey forgot how op DT’s are lmaooo

Also I did not see much obs sniping compared to other zergs. Soulkey lost an insane amount of lurkers that barely did anything.


Brain's obs spread was really good, and he always kept 2-3 with his army. Soulkey tried to get the snipe a few times, but the storms were great, and Brain was usually setup really well with his observers.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 12:45 GMT
#96
On March 22 2020 21:42 Cush wrote:
Soulkey forgot how op DT’s are lmaooo

Also I did not see much obs sniping compared to other zergs. Soulkey lost an insane amount of lurkers that barely did anything.


Indeed, I noticed that as well. One has become so used to see the sniping that this seemed weird.
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 12:47:15
March 22 2020 12:45 GMT
#97
my thoughts on the final games
don`t look this spoiler if you do not want to know who play in great final today

+ Show Spoiler +
I think Action have more chances to advance Ro8. Brain was so tired after 3 games versus SK
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
March 22 2020 12:46 GMT
#98
On March 22 2020 21:36 GorillaPimp wrote:
I can't believe Brain is going to beat SOULKEY!!!!


Yeah we understood a while ago that you wont believe it, thing is he wasnt even a clear underdog against sk.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 12:46 GMT
#99
On March 22 2020 21:45 Sonic_md wrote:
don`t look this spoiler if you do not want to know who play in great final today

+ Show Spoiler +
I think Action have more chances to advance Ro8. Brain was so tired after 3 games versus SK


+ Show Spoiler +
Fastest players never get tired.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
March 22 2020 12:51 GMT
#100
On March 22 2020 21:42 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
My god, what a game. Brain wins out despite seemingly incapable of defending his own expansions. So many dead drones from storms and DT. Times like these I wish workers killed could be shown.


Uh, what exactly are you talking about? He pretty much defended all his expansions that game?
Only at the end when he finally remembered to make cannons with a source of splash damage. Until then he was relying on his army and harrass. I wonder what Need Money lmao will do now that he is out of ASL.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 22 2020 12:52 GMT
#101
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
March 22 2020 12:53 GMT
#102
This kid is the future, damn he's been everywhere. No matter what action the screen is at, Brain has been there microing it out with goons and storming the meatiest part of the z army.

tasteless didn't notice but that dt chopping drones late game was actually a second dt he sent, sneaking it past a live battle.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49995 Posts
March 22 2020 12:59 GMT
#103
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

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73%

If you have time (2)
 
18%

No (1)
 
9%

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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 13:00 GMT
#104
Ok, Action just smashed that but I don't understand why you would even try and commit without an obs.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 13:03 GMT
#105
On March 22 2020 21:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:42 Miragee wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
My god, what a game. Brain wins out despite seemingly incapable of defending his own expansions. So many dead drones from storms and DT. Times like these I wish workers killed could be shown.


Uh, what exactly are you talking about? He pretty much defended all his expansions that game?
Only at the end when he finally remembered to make cannons with a source of splash damage. Until then he was relying on his army and harrass. I wonder what Need Money lmao will do now that he is out of ASL.


Yeah ok but I mean, defending with your army is defending as well. And as long as he was on 4 bases, with the way the bases were set up, I think it was a legit way of playing.
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 13:07 GMT
#106
On March 22 2020 21:46 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:36 GorillaPimp wrote:
I can't believe Brain is going to beat SOULKEY!!!!


Yeah we understood a while ago that you wont believe it, thing is he wasnt even a clear underdog against sk.

Lol sure he wasn't, then he gets rolled by Action
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 13:08:51
March 22 2020 13:08 GMT
#107
Yes, I agree. I miswrote. I could had written what I meant better, that he didn't set up his defences properly. For a really long time he was at the mercy of wherever his own units were. It was just chance really that his nexus survived on 20hp and suchlike.

Argh a sad end to Brain after his brilliant display against Soulkey.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
March 22 2020 13:08 GMT
#108
Awwe too bad, still some really good games today and action obviously should make it out of that group
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7796 Posts
March 22 2020 13:09 GMT
#109
Just came in !
What is happening with poor Soulkey ?
He is out of this group and he has finance problems !
It is a bad time for him
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
March 22 2020 13:09 GMT
#110
welp, that was an anti climatic ending =\ Brain still showing great promise though
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
March 22 2020 13:09 GMT
#111
On March 22 2020 22:07 GorillaPimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:46 TornadoSteve wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:36 GorillaPimp wrote:
I can't believe Brain is going to beat SOULKEY!!!!


Yeah we understood a while ago that you wont believe it, thing is he wasnt even a clear underdog against sk.

Lol sure he wasn't, then he gets rolled by Action

SoulKey hasn't been doing so hot in online matches from what I remember, his old form doesn't mean he is playing that well right now after returning from the military...
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 13:10 GMT
#112
On March 22 2020 22:08 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yes, I agree. I miswrote. I could had written what I meant better, that he didn't set up his defences properly. For a really long time he was at the mercy of wherever his own units were. It was just chance really that his nexus survived on 20hp and suchlike.

Argh a sad end to Brain after his brilliant display against Soulkey.


Yeah, I definitely agree with you - on both of your statements.
Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 22 2020 13:11 GMT
#113
On March 22 2020 22:09 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 22:07 GorillaPimp wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:46 TornadoSteve wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:36 GorillaPimp wrote:
I can't believe Brain is going to beat SOULKEY!!!!


Yeah we understood a while ago that you wont believe it, thing is he wasnt even a clear underdog against sk.

Lol sure he wasn't, then he gets rolled by Action

SoulKey hasn't been doing so hot in online matches from what I remember, his old form doesn't mean he is playing that well right now after returning from the military...

He's been just fine in KCM
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 22 2020 13:13 GMT
#114
Argh I'm sad to see brain go, he was definitely the most exciting player tonight. I want to see him play again next season
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 13:15 GMT
#115
On March 22 2020 22:03 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:51 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:42 Miragee wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:39 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
My god, what a game. Brain wins out despite seemingly incapable of defending his own expansions. So many dead drones from storms and DT. Times like these I wish workers killed could be shown.


Uh, what exactly are you talking about? He pretty much defended all his expansions that game?
Only at the end when he finally remembered to make cannons with a source of splash damage. Until then he was relying on his army and harrass. I wonder what Need Money lmao will do now that he is out of ASL.


Yeah ok but I mean, defending with your army is defending as well. And as long as he was on 4 bases, with the way the bases were set up, I think it was a legit way of playing.


With the way that map is set up, you can defend the natural and the third at the same time with your rally. He put plenty of cannons and templar at his 4th and 5th (natural). A large part of his play (which is very Bisu-esque) is using army and drop pressure to indirectly defense his expansions, so it makes sense that he would just use his rally at the third as both a defense point as well as a front line of attack.

Soulkey got some key runarounds and flanks on those bases, which is why it looked more difficult than it maybe should have.
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
March 22 2020 13:28 GMT
#116
Good games today!

I have to agree with the comments that cast today and the last few days have been pretty bad. I love Tastosis but it seems they really went overboard with the "laughing" and saying silly things (which in a "correct" amount is needed!). They should find the equilibrium. But it's not promising.
Also Artosis has been "mocking" protoss way too much in ASL casts in my opinion, it is not really professional. He can do it on his stream (it used to be funny, but now it is basically the only thing it's about and not really funny in this quantity so I stopped watching him) but to do it this much during ASL (not especially today, but last 2-4 days) is really bad in my opinion I don't care what race it's about, it is just silly.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
March 22 2020 13:28 GMT
#117
wow.. damn.. Brain such a strong player atm! I hope he will still improve a lot, because if he will.. I think he can be another title contender among the very best of the scene.

great games

impressive how he played such a disgusting matchup vs such legends and came this far.

Great group
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
March 22 2020 13:29 GMT
#118
On March 22 2020 22:28 Szinkler wrote:
Good games today!

I have to agree with the comments that cast today and the last few days have been pretty bad. I love Tastosis but it seems they really went overboard with the "laughing" and saying silly things (which in a "correct" amount is needed!). They should find the equilibrium. But it's not promising.
Also Artosis has been "mocking" protoss way too much in ASL casts in my opinion, it is not really professional. He can do it on his stream (it used to be funny, but now it is basically the only thing it's about and not really funny in this quantity so I stopped watching him) but to do it this much during ASL (not especially today, but last 2-4 days) is really bad in my opinion I don't care what race it's about, it is just silly.

100% agree with all your comments.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 22 2020 13:54 GMT
#119
They've made such a good choice with bo3 format, ro16 became even more of treat since they implemented it.
Brain played so solid and well, I think either he was tired after 3 games against SK or/and Action is just way better right now. Nevertheless this is such a good performance for attending ASL for first time (also he won ACS), I'm really looking forward for Brain/Sea.KH in future.
SK is having bad time but it's OK, he's recently back from military he needs some time.. Look f.e. by.hero couldn't make it pass preliminaries after military although he was top 3 zerg easily.
Can't wait to see who's SoMa going to face, hope it isn't ZvZ because I like other zergs as well.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1006 Posts
March 22 2020 13:56 GMT
#120
Sad that Brain couldnt make it.
Good to see Action in a good form like he is right now

Soma, it was expected, he is the man to beat in zvz for several months now
SoulKey... Well his time is over it seems. Unfortunately.
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
March 22 2020 14:10 GMT
#121
On March 22 2020 21:52 r33k wrote:
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.


Uff... that was so hard to watch. Have not watched BW in a while and randomly turned in for the the Brain/Soulkey game 3 (great game btw) and the casting of midgame and endgame was basically just 10-15 minutes of scream laughing ("AAHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS SO FUNNY"). Turned off after the game because that shit is just unbearable.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7796 Posts
March 22 2020 14:19 GMT
#122
On March 22 2020 23:10 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:52 r33k wrote:
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.


Uff... that was so hard to watch. Have not watched BW in a while and randomly turned in for the the Brain/Soulkey game 3 (great game btw) and the casting of midgame and endgame was basically just 10-15 minutes of scream laughing ("AAHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS SO FUNNY"). Turned off after the game because that shit is just unbearable.


AGREE 100 % !

I prefer to watch korean stream even if I don't undestand a single word!
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 14:45:20
March 22 2020 14:42 GMT
#123
And people wonder why noone likes the bw community on tl

edit: to be fair, people dislike the sc2 one as well because it approaches the bw one now
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att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
March 22 2020 14:54 GMT
#124
On March 22 2020 23:19 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 23:10 Jacenoob wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:52 r33k wrote:
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.


Uff... that was so hard to watch. Have not watched BW in a while and randomly turned in for the the Brain/Soulkey game 3 (great game btw) and the casting of midgame and endgame was basically just 10-15 minutes of scream laughing ("AAHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS SO FUNNY"). Turned off after the game because that shit is just unbearable.


AGREE 100 % !

I prefer to watch korean stream even if I don't undestand a single word!

Maybe im alone on this but i liked it.. the dudes are having fun and i couldnt help but put a smirk on myself while the dudes were laughing themselves
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 22 2020 15:21 GMT
#125
On March 22 2020 23:54 att wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 23:19 prosatan wrote:
On March 22 2020 23:10 Jacenoob wrote:
On March 22 2020 21:52 r33k wrote:
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.


Uff... that was so hard to watch. Have not watched BW in a while and randomly turned in for the the Brain/Soulkey game 3 (great game btw) and the casting of midgame and endgame was basically just 10-15 minutes of scream laughing ("AAHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS SO FUNNY"). Turned off after the game because that shit is just unbearable.


AGREE 100 % !

I prefer to watch korean stream even if I don't undestand a single word!

Maybe im alone on this but i liked it.. the dudes are having fun and i couldnt help but put a smirk on myself while the dudes were laughing themselves


Yeah, don't know why ppl making big impact out of it, like they listen to Tastosis for the first time. Times are pretty rough nowadays so bit of fooling around is always nice.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 22 2020 15:50 GMT
#126
Great games! Really a treat. And I've enjoyed the casting a lot this ASL. Light and fun is good for me. I think they balance it well.
KTY
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 22 2020 16:08 GMT
#127
There is a difference between saying that the casting today was a bit too unfocused on the games/too much internal jokes and saying that everything they did basically sucked.

That is why pure negativity is not helpful and rub alot of people that DO enjoy them, the wrong way. Tastosis does a lot of things very well. If you can't see anything funny or charming about them, then there might be some language/cultural barrier (fine), maybe you just don't get their humour (fine), maybe you are feeding off that satifsfying feeling of knowing that you are "better" than the majority (not so fine, but can happen to the best) or maybe you are just simply a sour grape (fine, but who cares?)

hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
March 22 2020 17:51 GMT
#128
Great games. Loving the round of 16 so far. Yay for soma! Also, Brain has the #1 place in my heart with his play style. So fun to watch, hope he continues to do well
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plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany99 Posts
March 22 2020 18:19 GMT
#129
I also find that there was a bit too much banter in this particular cast but it wasnt bad overall. I hope they tend back to a bit more in depth game analysis (Cadenzie for example does a great job here). In the end, no one compares to Sayle anyway

On the game: I cant shake the feeling that Soulkey played a bit arrogantly and presumptuously which cost him the games in the end.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
March 22 2020 19:34 GMT
#130
It's quite ironic that people are turned off by Tastosis going overboard when the korean casters have been going overboard for the past 20 years. Anyways, I personally don't care much. I listen to Tastosis for the banter not any game analysis. Obviously they have gotten quite a bit better since they originally came back to cast BW again but yeah, there are people with a lot more knowledge. As long as the observer is good, I can watch the game just fine and enjoy the banter at the same time.

On March 22 2020 22:56 TornadoSteve wrote:
SoulKey... Well his time is over it seems. Unfortunately.


How the hell did you reach this conclusion?
Jacenoob
Profile Joined August 2014
299 Posts
March 22 2020 19:48 GMT
#131
On March 23 2020 04:34 Miragee wrote:
It's quite ironic that people are turned off by Tastosis going overboard when the korean casters have been going overboard for the past 20 years. Anyways, I personally don't care much. I listen to Tastosis for the banter not any game analysis. Obviously they have gotten quite a bit better since they originally came back to cast BW again but yeah, there are people with a lot more knowledge. As long as the observer is good, I can watch the game just fine and enjoy the banter at the same time.


I dont know Korean, so I dont know what they crazy over, but it always seems to me they go overboard on the game, not on their own inside jokes. I also don't know if all games are like that or just the one I randonly turned into. It wasnt that funny and they acted like the Big Bang Theory crowd if it was on shrooms.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States883 Posts
March 22 2020 21:18 GMT
#132
On March 22 2020 20:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
man i was about to post congrats action LOL.holy crap that hold by soma was Jaedong material.

Soma is the new Bonjwa I guess
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 22:10:17
March 22 2020 21:26 GMT
#133
On March 23 2020 04:48 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 04:34 Miragee wrote:
It's quite ironic that people are turned off by Tastosis going overboard when the korean casters have been going overboard for the past 20 years. Anyways, I personally don't care much. I listen to Tastosis for the banter not any game analysis. Obviously they have gotten quite a bit better since they originally came back to cast BW again but yeah, there are people with a lot more knowledge. As long as the observer is good, I can watch the game just fine and enjoy the banter at the same time.


I dont know Korean, so I dont know what they crazy over, but it always seems to me they go overboard on the game, not on their own inside jokes. I also don't know if all games are like that or just the one I randonly turned into. It wasnt that funny and they acted like the Big Bang Theory crowd if it was on shrooms.


Yea, I agree, I was also the one to complain about it last group and I mean, it's fine they make some jokes, but it happens regularly they kinda lose track of the game and don't really know what's going on anymore because they're too busy making jokes. Personally not a fan of that, but they are still the best commentators out there and I'd rather have them commentating than anyone else (at least from the other commentators we've had over the years).

Doubt there will be new talent anymore either, but it's just a bit disappointing and disrespectful to the players and the game sometimes that they are too busy with their own stuff (which most of the time isn't even that funny (in my opinion)) to actually pay attention to the game and miss out on important stuff because of that (and later wondering if a certain player is doing something, while the obs has already shown they were or were not).

Anyway, there's not too many ppl watching and it def won't get better (when it comes to views), so yea, there's really no incentive for anyone to still get into BW commentating and when they do actually pay attention and commentate I do think they usually do a great job. Just would be nice sometimes if they could take their job a little more seriously, but can't really blame them too much I suppose.
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 22 2020 21:40 GMT
#134
Maybe it's time for me to set up the ENG2 stream for ASL again.... :thinking:
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diskovision
Profile Joined January 2019
United States27 Posts
March 22 2020 23:45 GMT
#135
Artosis is great in games involving T. Tasteless is really out of form, but now that he's playing again (?) he might improve on the P matchups. Neither of them know shit about zerg and they don't seem to care to learn either, but I'll take 8/9 if Tasteless puts more time into the game like I hope he is.
chillzzz
Profile Joined August 2018
30 Posts
March 22 2020 23:57 GMT
#136
On March 22 2020 23:10 Jacenoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2020 21:52 r33k wrote:
I did not remember Tasteless and Artosis being this bad, but all they do is yell and make noises.


Uff... that was so hard to watch. Have not watched BW in a while and randomly turned in for the the Brain/Soulkey game 3 (great game btw) and the casting of midgame and endgame was basically just 10-15 minutes of scream laughing ("AAHAHAHHAHAHHA THIS IS SO FUNNY"). Turned off after the game because that shit is just unbearable.

I love Tastosis's banter but it's too much when all the important late game stuff is happening on screen and there's no casting of the game, just loud laughter and banter. I don't remember them ever doing it this much until this and the previous ro16 groups.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
831 Posts
March 22 2020 23:59 GMT
#137
Wow, people are whining nearly as much as they do when Tastosis don't cast.
Anyway, I thought the games and banter were on point today. Brain continued to impress, hope to see him in future seasons.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-23 00:44:02
March 23 2020 00:42 GMT
#138
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 23 2020 00:55 GMT
#139
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I doubt it. Love the map and all of the new mechanics that it makes people consider, but I think there's definite imbalance, and at least right now, it's a forced style that I don't think many people want to play. People still too comfortable with Circuit Breaker type maps. Reminds me of Troy in a way. Troy was a weird ass map that always resulted in crazy games.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 23 2020 01:05 GMT
#140
On March 23 2020 09:55 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I doubt it. Love the map and all of the new mechanics that it makes people consider, but I think there's definite imbalance, and at least right now, it's a forced style that I don't think many people want to play. People still too comfortable with Circuit Breaker type maps. Reminds me of Troy in a way. Troy was a weird ass map that always resulted in crazy games.

Troy was an excellent map as well. I'm glad the neutral assimilator feature was brought back with Block Chain. And similarly although I'm not sure how long Inner Coven will last as an active competition map, I hope it inspires others to come.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 23 2020 03:28 GMT
#141
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!

I guess we watched a different round of 24 because outside of the TvTs the map has been horrid.
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany99 Posts
March 23 2020 07:16 GMT
#142
On March 23 2020 06:40 EsportsJohn wrote:
Maybe it's time for me to set up the ENG2 stream for ASL again.... :thinking:


Yeah, go for it. This also goes out to Qikz, Cadenzie and BisuDagger, all great casters. I would watch the hell out of a team of two of you guys!
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7796 Posts
March 23 2020 07:56 GMT
#143
On March 23 2020 09:55 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I doubt it. Love the map and all of the new mechanics that it makes people consider, but I think there's definite imbalance, and at least right now, it's a forced style that I don't think many people want to play. People still too comfortable with Circuit Breaker type maps. Reminds me of Troy in a way. Troy was a weird ass map that always resulted in crazy games.


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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11046 Posts
March 23 2020 16:40 GMT
#144
I love all these new guys coming into the ASL. Ample, Brain, Soma.

Brain had some sick games today. He's looking scary.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-23 17:00:42
March 23 2020 16:59 GMT
#145
On March 23 2020 12:28 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!

I guess we watched a different round of 24 because outside of the TvTs the map has been horrid.

I guess we did. The PvZ's have been exhilarating for me. Especially the one game that went to devourers in the Ro24 and Larva fighting for his life in the Ro16. Also enjoyed the carrier cliff micro.
On March 24 2020 01:40 Sabu113 wrote:
I love all these new guys coming into the ASL. Ample, Brain, Soma.

Brain had some sick games today. He's looking scary.

Sad Brain didn't make it because almost all of his games were incredible. I hoped he'd get first or last so I could see more ZvZ, but I wasn't disappointed at all to see more high IQ Brain games.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19215 Posts
March 23 2020 22:46 GMT
#146
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.
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whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland576 Posts
March 23 2020 22:59 GMT
#147
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


Action was THE zerg after Effort, before wristsaegi took him. 2019 Aprill he was smashing everyone. Another great player who seems to be succumbing to health issues ☹️
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
831 Posts
March 23 2020 23:41 GMT
#148
On March 24 2020 07:59 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


Action was THE zerg after Effort, before wristsaegi took him. 2019 Aprill he was smashing everyone. Another great player who seems to be succumbing to health issues ☹️

Hasn't succumbed just yet though. Ro4 last season, and looking strong this time around too.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
March 24 2020 00:43 GMT
#149
I'm not 100% positive Action won because he was just "a way better player" (although he probably is). In his post-game interview, he talked about how Brain was playing really well, so he decided to just play super safe (aka make a lot of units). Soulkey is much more of a passive late game Zerg, so it's not surprising that Brain's aggro map control style worked really well against him. Action, on the other hand, played much more aggressively to fight back for map control and keep the Protoss army from just freely walking out onto the map without an observer or good positioning. The result was that Brain ended up getting his first army smashed, and then his whole game plan of getting map control and staying even with the Zerg on bases fell apart. (He also got ee han timing'd).

It shows that although Brain looked brilliant in some ways, he still lacks the polish to be a top player. He's still got some glaring weaknesses that dynamically change his ability to maintain the lead and close out games. A little more work on becoming more well-rounded by playing against more aggressive Zergs will go a long way for him, imo.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3673 Posts
March 24 2020 01:09 GMT
#150
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I guess you missed the game where bisu bobd some poor nerd with a reaver and a shuttle.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 24 2020 03:31 GMT
#151
On March 24 2020 10:09 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2020 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I've not seen a bad game on Inner Coven yet. Hope this map continues to be featured in future tournaments!


I guess you missed the game where bisu bobd some poor nerd with a reaver and a shuttle.

No game where Bisu wins is a bad one lmao
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-24 04:39:21
March 24 2020 04:25 GMT
#152
Brain vs Soulkey was great. I’m sorry to see an excellent player like Soulkey get knocked out, but if it must be, then it might as well happen in style.

Tasteless and Artosis know a lot about the game. I’ve been playing and watching for ages and I still learn new stuff when I listen to their casts... the 1% of the time they can pay attention to what’s happening. The other 99% of the time they’re off on their own world. I prefer the Korean casters, and I don’t speak Korean. They can be fun and silly, but they get hyped at important moments when Tastosis are still joking about an SCV that walked in a funny way 10 minutes ago.

Good casters use downtime to fill you in on stuff that’s not so obvious:
• So-and-so is losing — how are they trying to turn the tables? What’s in their mind? (Expand/harass/timing attack/wait for upgrade)
• That move that worked so badly, what was so-and-so thinking? Why did it seem worth a try?
• So-and-so hasn’t scouted the thing yet. What are they assuming is going on? What are they hedging against?
• That play only worked because so-and-so did that thing amazingly. If it had been slightly different, we’d be looking at XYZ right now.

You know, we can all see the game unfolding. I enjoy a good PLAAAYGUUU moment as much as the next guy, but when you’re not caught up in a battle, you can spend that downtime more profitably than just chilling and talking about nothing.
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Deleted User 513418
Profile Joined November 2019
138 Posts
March 24 2020 06:43 GMT
#153
On March 24 2020 07:46 BisuDagger wrote:
I think Brain played impressive and really took on the challenge of high caliber players. That being said, Action practically toyed with him in all the games they played, including the first one. The casters even nailed the fact that Action is always happy to play a long game and never let it get out of his control. I am now unsure if Brain is just at the same average level of PvZ as Snow and Rain, or if Action just has the best PvZ out of the current zergs. In the interview, Action said they played a lot too, but I still don't think that takes away the strong ways in which he won his games.


I think Action is just that good. He's not flashy but he is so goddamn solid. I always think of Soulkey or Zero before him, but while those players have more talent, Action seems more consistent.

I think SK and Zero are better vT, but Action is slightly more reliable vP.
Aminus
Profile Joined October 2018
Bulgaria35 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-24 21:54:38
March 24 2020 19:09 GMT
#154
such a good games so far, protoss players fighting so brave in base trade situations, stork vs larva, brain vs soulkey.
Brain looking like a champion already, havent seen such a solid protoss player in a long time.
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