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lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 16:40:48
August 04 2019 16:39 GMT
#121
Those three games were a true work of art by Snow.

That third expansion denial in game 1 with DTs and Reaver, that Shuttle surviving impossible odds in game 2, the outmanoeuvering and outflanking in game 3, when almost any other Protoss in the world would have panicked. Masterfully done, he makes that matchup look so easy.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
August 04 2019 16:48 GMT
#122
On August 05 2019 01:07 Wonk wrote:
Where did all these "Flash won't make it past rain" conclusions come from? Rain is undeniably the best PvPer in the world but his PvT has never been anything spectacular (compared to his PvP, at least), and certainly not up to the calibre of snow's in terms of decision making.

It’s just fanboyism. Let them think what they want. We both know Flash will probably win big.
Jaeyun
Profile Joined June 2017
United States202 Posts
August 04 2019 16:48 GMT
#123
Amazing play by Snow - he 100% deserved this win and sweep.
www.twitch.tv/jaeyun
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
August 04 2019 17:58 GMT
#124
Beautifully played! Wow Snow is a PvT artist.
The feeling of this series reminded me of Bisu vs Savior.
I'm truly hoping for Snow vs Flash finals
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 04 2019 18:34 GMT
#125
That was some clean PvT by Snow, amazing. Always ahead of Last every game.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 20:30:16
August 04 2019 20:25 GMT
#126
On August 05 2019 01:39 lepape wrote:
Those three games were a true work of art by Snow.

That third expansion denial in game 1 with DTs and Reaver, that Shuttle surviving impossible odds in game 2, the outmanoeuvering and outflanking in game 3, when almost any other Protoss in the world would have panicked. Masterfully done, he makes that matchup look so easy.


Just watched the games and can only agree. It's always amazing to see with how much care Snow maneuvers his units around the map in PvT to get all those advantages. Simply amazing strategic play paired with great micro.

On August 04 2019 20:22 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 19:55 Geographer wrote:
It's a sad day for Terrans when Light has better PvT than Last. Snow isn't even that good and Last is making him look like Bisu.


Snow isn't that good? Based on what, exactly?
Last's wrists are always a wild card but even then, Snow's PvT is probably the best there is at the moment.


Especially when Bisu's worst match up has always been PvT.
AF0x
Profile Joined June 2018
United States59 Posts
August 04 2019 22:28 GMT
#127
Snow played incredibly well in this series. He seemed to be far more prepared than Last. Every one of his builds and maneuvers seemed very calculated and precise. I'm hoping that we can see Snow vs. Flash in the finals.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
August 04 2019 23:30 GMT
#128
Every ASL gets better. There is a good chance we will see Flash vs Rain this tournament and a rematch of Snow vs Flash in the finals.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 04 2019 23:45 GMT
#129
In Snow's universe Black Sabbath has a hit song Aiur Man. Man this was so satisfying to watch
The heart's eternal vow
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 05 2019 00:59 GMT
#130
what a stomp. i can't believe i picked light to win this series. thought that snow was too gimmicky but no he's just fuckin gosu.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
August 05 2019 01:04 GMT
#131
I was already hoping for a Snow vs. Flash finals, this just adds to the hype. Sharp and Action are both credible threats, but I think Snow has decent odds against both, and I don't see anyone on Flash's side taking him out unless Flash is playing poorly.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-05 01:10:05
August 05 2019 01:09 GMT
#132
On August 05 2019 01:07 Wonk wrote:
Where did all these "Flash won't make it past rain" conclusions come from? Rain is undeniably the best PvPer in the world but his PvT has never been anything spectacular (compared to his PvP, at least), and certainly not up to the calibre of snow's in terms of decision making.


Yeah it's weird, like where are they getting that conclusion from. In the previous match thread someone looked up the sponbang stats and Rain has a <20% win rate vs Flash last month.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 05 2019 01:11 GMT
#133
On August 05 2019 10:09 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2019 01:07 Wonk wrote:
Where did all these "Flash won't make it past rain" conclusions come from? Rain is undeniably the best PvPer in the world but his PvT has never been anything spectacular (compared to his PvP, at least), and certainly not up to the calibre of snow's in terms of decision making.


Yeah it's weird, like where are they getting that conclusion from. In the previous match thread someone looked up the sponbang stats and Rain has a <20% win rate vs Flash last month.

ever since he lost to sharp by making an umbillion mistakes i have discounted his pvt as well. idk if that series was 100% his pvt but it definitely made me wonder. that series is when i started getting high on sharp. and not just because he looks like a korean seth macfarlane
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
August 05 2019 01:56 GMT
#134
snow played absolutely perfect... what a masterful showcase.
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
August 05 2019 02:00 GMT
#135
Too bad for Last. He won ASL7 while facing elimination 5 times. The match vs Sharp was awesome, and the match vs Rain in the semis was one of the most thrilling I've seen. The Mini - Effort semifinal was great also. Hoping ASL8 has matches like that as we get deeper.

Snow can certainly deliver. I can't help but remember his game on Whiteout vs Soulkey in ASL7 Ro16 (where Snow was sadly also eliminated by Last). That game was superb.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
August 05 2019 02:29 GMT
#136
On August 05 2019 11:00 Nematocyst wrote:
Too bad for Last. He won ASL7 while facing elimination 5 times. The match vs Sharp was awesome, and the match vs Rain in the semis was one of the most thrilling I've seen. The Mini - Effort semifinal was great also. Hoping ASL8 has matches like that as we get deeper.

Snow can certainly deliver. I can't help but remember his game on Whiteout vs Soulkey in ASL7 Ro16 (where Snow was sadly also eliminated by Last). That game was superb.


He was eliminated by Last previously but when Snow's BGM choice is 'The Circle if Life' he must've known what was up
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
August 05 2019 05:06 GMT
#137
On August 05 2019 10:09 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2019 01:07 Wonk wrote:
Where did all these "Flash won't make it past rain" conclusions come from? Rain is undeniably the best PvPer in the world but his PvT has never been anything spectacular (compared to his PvP, at least), and certainly not up to the calibre of snow's in terms of decision making.


Yeah it's weird, like where are they getting that conclusion from. In the previous match thread someone looked up the sponbang stats and Rain has a <20% win rate vs Flash last month.


Best 36%
snow 28%
Stork 26%
Mini 25%
Jaehoon 20%
Rain 19%

LOL their boy losing out to Jaehoon

Gotta admit I didn't expect Best to be that high, though.
The original Bogus fan.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
August 05 2019 06:23 GMT
#138
Best is a beast online, watching Flash 's play vs him he has a good balance of harass openings and late game macro.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden551 Posts
August 05 2019 10:13 GMT
#139
I almost can't believe how good Snow and Mini's reaver/speedShuttle micro is. I also can't believe how bad my micro is when i try this out. Very fun style to play, though.

Snow's PvZ is not that good imo, so i think he will have a tough time if Action wins against Sharp.
I would like to see Snow vs Sharp in bo4 and Snow vs Flash in finals.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
August 05 2019 10:27 GMT
#140
On August 05 2019 19:13 A.Alm wrote:
I almost can't believe how good Snow and Mini's reaver/speedShuttle micro is. I also can't believe how bad my micro is when i try this out. Very fun style to play, though.

Snow's PvZ is not that good imo, so i think he will have a tough time if Action wins against Sharp.
I would like to see Snow vs Sharp in bo4 and Snow vs Flash in finals.


Snow's PvZ is not his best offline but online he has a good ratio; also, he advanced over Soulkey in the last KSL.
Snow vs Action, if it happens, will be hard to predict.
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