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[KSL3] Ro16 Day 5 - Group A Winners/Losers Matches - Page 3

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JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria408 Posts
May 02 2019 12:26 GMT
#41
Sharp and his worst match-up does not seem to hold true against Zero. Or is off-line Zero less scary than the impressive on-line games we see from him in the Casual games thread?
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 02 2019 12:27 GMT
#42
Zero could take a lesson or two from Modesty tbh ...
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2392 Posts
May 02 2019 12:43 GMT
#43
Really strange attack from ZerO there, in my opinion. He's going crazy zerg and has ultras about to pop out, and then suddenly charges Terran's natural not long before they pop? Perhaps his +2 armour just hit and I mean it was kinda close to working, but it felt odd.
The original Bogus fan.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
May 02 2019 12:49 GMT
#44
Poll: Recommend Sharp vs ZerO Game 3?

If you have time (4)
 
57%

No (2)
 
29%

Yes (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Sharp vs ZerO Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 02 2019 12:51 GMT
#45
He probably thought that the main terran army was not as close, irradiate also worked pretty well there
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3093 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-03 02:58:34
May 02 2019 12:51 GMT
#46
At least Sharp/Zero was a better series then Best/Modesty stomp. Glad to see Sharp still in good form. Shame Zero bowing out though. He's looked so strong recently.
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repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
May 02 2019 12:58 GMT
#47
KSL Tastosis toss imba / living


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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
May 02 2019 13:25 GMT
#48
Is there a site like Aligulac to track results in BW?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19227 Posts
May 02 2019 14:04 GMT
#49
The way Zero plays is the way Zerg used to play when he returned in the Sonic era. He failed a lot with it too. The way Zero succeeded against Terrans was when he started to go two base hive tech into expansions. Unlike Modesty, his goal wasn't to get guardians, but instead acquire defilers. Then he could dark swarm lurker guard his third more easily while using the utility of nydus canals. I believe Zero chose to play the builds he did today as comfort strategies instead of the breakout ones that put him on top in the past.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
May 02 2019 15:27 GMT
#50
On May 02 2019 22:25 Kimb3r wrote:
Is there a site like Aligulac to track results in BW?


Is Liquipedia not good enough?

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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 02 2019 15:44 GMT
#51
Very sad to see Zero out. He played well each game but sharp really stepped up his game from 2 weeks ago. Although zero was doing so well in game 1 but dropped the ball and lost it all so quickly once he lost his 4th :\. Game 2 was a really great comeback for a while after getting the BO lose. Game 3 he seemed tilted :\

Hopefully sharp can figure out how to beat 2-hatch muta next week.
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Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 02 2019 15:47 GMT
#52
I dunno what everybody was talking about, apart from the fact it was a 3-0 I liked zero's play.

Now this may sound crazy, even though Zero got 3-0'd, I felt like he showed more rounded skillful play in the ZvT matchup than Modesty did vs. Sharp when he 3-0'd him. Modesty always gets by off odd builds and timings that the terran either just doesn't hold or otherwise crushes. I think when Sharp meets him again he will absolutely decimate him. Sharp isn't Leta.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
May 02 2019 16:37 GMT
#53
maaan.. + Show Spoiler +
another 2x 3-0 . . . ugh . . .
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
May 02 2019 17:19 GMT
#54
Sharp played quite well
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8085 Posts
May 02 2019 18:46 GMT
#55
On May 03 2019 00:47 Wonk wrote:
I dunno what everybody was talking about, apart from the fact it was a 3-0 I liked zero's play.

Now this may sound crazy, even though Zero got 3-0'd, I felt like he showed more rounded skillful play in the ZvT matchup than Modesty did vs. Sharp when he 3-0'd him. Modesty always gets by off odd builds and timings that the terran either just doesn't hold or otherwise crushes. I think when Sharp meets him again he will absolutely decimate him. Sharp isn't Leta.


Yeah no offense to modesty but it'd be a shame if sharp doesn't beat him next week. Modesty has great muta micro but he is such a 1-trick pony, and his zvp is fucking abysmal. Of course a win is a win and I respect him for taking the series vs sharp last week, but until he shows more depth in his play and amps up his zvp I don't think he's a deserving Ro8-caliber player.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8497 Posts
May 02 2019 20:30 GMT
#56
On May 02 2019 23:04 BisuDagger wrote:
The way Zero plays is the way Zerg used to play when he returned in the Sonic era. He failed a lot with it too. The way Zero succeeded against Terrans was when he started to go two base hive tech into expansions. Unlike Modesty, his goal wasn't to get guardians, but instead acquire defilers. Then he could dark swarm lurker guard his third more easily while using the utility of nydus canals. I believe Zero chose to play the builds he did today as comfort strategies instead of the breakout ones that put him on top in the past.


I don't think it was actually the builds which lost Zero the games. His builds were fine, his macro was great. He just had, just as in his matches against Best, a very hard time controlling his army correctly and making the right moves once he hit a certain threshold of supply. I just think Zero needs to get his multi-tasking and decision making back and he will be busting terrans all over again. It pains me to see him play like this because you can see the sparks of his original play, which was some of the most entertaining TvZ styles I have ever witnessed, and then messes up the execution. Next time, I believe in you!
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
May 02 2019 20:51 GMT
#57
On May 03 2019 00:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 22:25 Kimb3r wrote:
Is there a site like Aligulac to track results in BW?


Is Liquipedia not good enough?

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/2019_Korea_StarCraft_League_Season_3#Round_of_16_Group_Stage


No. Just an overview about recent results for every player.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19227 Posts
May 02 2019 23:33 GMT
#58
On May 03 2019 05:30 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 23:04 BisuDagger wrote:
The way Zero plays is the way Zerg used to play when he returned in the Sonic era. He failed a lot with it too. The way Zero succeeded against Terrans was when he started to go two base hive tech into expansions. Unlike Modesty, his goal wasn't to get guardians, but instead acquire defilers. Then he could dark swarm lurker guard his third more easily while using the utility of nydus canals. I believe Zero chose to play the builds he did today as comfort strategies instead of the breakout ones that put him on top in the past.


I don't think it was actually the builds which lost Zero the games. His builds were fine, his macro was great. He just had, just as in his matches against Best, a very hard time controlling his army correctly and making the right moves once he hit a certain threshold of supply. I just think Zero needs to get his multi-tasking and decision making back and he will be busting terrans all over again. It pains me to see him play like this because you can see the sparks of his original play, which was some of the most entertaining TvZ styles I have ever witnessed, and then messes up the execution. Next time, I believe in you!

I only mean to say his strategy wasn't an evolved one. He chose builds that are very much figured out by Terran. So, like you said, it would require a much better version of himself to execute those builds and win with them.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2392 Posts
May 03 2019 05:21 GMT
#59
On May 03 2019 05:30 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2019 23:04 BisuDagger wrote:
The way Zero plays is the way Zerg used to play when he returned in the Sonic era. He failed a lot with it too. The way Zero succeeded against Terrans was when he started to go two base hive tech into expansions. Unlike Modesty, his goal wasn't to get guardians, but instead acquire defilers. Then he could dark swarm lurker guard his third more easily while using the utility of nydus canals. I believe Zero chose to play the builds he did today as comfort strategies instead of the breakout ones that put him on top in the past.


I don't think it was actually the builds which lost Zero the games. His builds were fine, his macro was great. He just had, just as in his matches against Best, a very hard time controlling his army correctly and making the right moves once he hit a certain threshold of supply. I just think Zero needs to get his multi-tasking and decision making back and he will be busting terrans all over again. It pains me to see him play like this because you can see the sparks of his original play, which was some of the most entertaining TvZ styles I have ever witnessed, and then messes up the execution. Next time, I believe in you!

Yeah, I agree. People shouldn't take my LRing as hating on ZerO, I like him as a player and would love to see him succeed. He wasn't playing badly on the whole, and he showed some crazy drone micro early in a few of the games. His macro seemed fine to good. But once it came to large scale fights, there were multiple examples of him swarming way too late, engaging at bad times/angles, etc.

And yes I'm absolutely hoping my boy Sharp smashes Modesty.
The original Bogus fan.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50110 Posts
May 03 2019 08:46 GMT
#60
On May 03 2019 05:51 Kimb3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2019 00:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 02 2019 22:25 Kimb3r wrote:
Is there a site like Aligulac to track results in BW?


Is Liquipedia not good enough?

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/2019_Korea_StarCraft_League_Season_3#Round_of_16_Group_Stage


No. Just an overview about recent results for every player.


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