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ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 10:49:08
January 15 2019 10:44 GMT
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
January 15 2019 10:45 GMT
#2
tinkle stuck to his style and put in a decent performance, unfortunate to come up against a pvt heavyweight on a protoss favored map...
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
January 15 2019 10:51 GMT
#3
"Tranmission error" Ahahaha, I like it.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 10:53 GMT
#4
Love the image choice for Tinkle.
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Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
January 15 2019 10:58 GMT
#5
Woaw, defending with swarm on 3 different place so early. I'm impressed.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 11:01:16
January 15 2019 10:59 GMT
#6
Action is such a good player now, damn. Been a big fan of him for a long time and he just keeps getting better.

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
January 15 2019 11:00 GMT
#7
Well, I'll put that one in the "failed drop" category.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 11:01 GMT
#8
We're witnessing a slow death here.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 15 2019 11:03 GMT
#9
Those SCVs trapped by pathfinding at the end there...
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 11:05:11
January 15 2019 11:04 GMT
#10
Action>Snow; tInkle>piano calling it now
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 15 2019 11:09 GMT
#11
Question:

Is it really dark swarm the best spell in the game? I thought consume was way the best spell/ability since it enables "free" other spells. I am not saying dark swarm isn´t good but it would be like half as powerful without consume and the other way around is true, any other spellcaster would be at least twice as good with consume.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
January 15 2019 11:10 GMT
#12
dark swarm pretty much negates the entire terran's arsenal of attacks.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
January 15 2019 11:11 GMT
#13
On January 15 2019 19:59 jjmmtt wrote:

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.


I am watching pro BW and using TL.net since the very beginning and I have this feeling, maybe its subjective, that the moment there is a Protoss favored map, people start commenting how protosses are getting free wins, undeserved wins etc., but all the Terran or Zerg favored maps throughout the whole history of BW are perceived as either Terran and Zergs are better players or Protoss race is just weaker. Nevertheless there were a lot more Terran & Zerg favored maps than Protoss favored maps imo. Protoss had so few favored maps compared to the other races historically but somehow this race is not allowed to have favored maps - islands, semi-islands or others
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 15 2019 11:12 GMT
#14
On January 15 2019 20:04 ggsimida wrote:
Action>Snow; tInkle>piano calling it now


Not sure about tinkle ... the guy has excellent apm but he relys on typical amateur risky harassing style do or die..this is not the way on the pro-scene. Maybe he will be forced to a more solid playstyle in TvT and will show us some potential.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 11:19:59
January 15 2019 11:18 GMT
#15
On January 15 2019 20:12 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2019 20:04 ggsimida wrote:
Action>Snow; tInkle>piano calling it now


Not sure about tinkle ... the guy has excellent apm but he relys on typical amateur risky harassing style do or die..this is not the way on the pro-scene. Maybe he will be forced to a more solid playstyle in TvT and will show us some potential.


on a map like blockchain he had to do such a style anyway, you are just asking for death trying to play standard there. i dont agree it was amateurishy either, theres a good amount of planning behind those harass its just that snow deflect them all well enough and he just fall behind.

i have seen his ladder games through other players stream and he can definitely play a safe standard style if needed to. piano has poor tvt sense beyond knowing build orders its his best chance of taking a win among the 3 expros.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 15 2019 11:18 GMT
#16
On January 15 2019 19:59 jjmmtt wrote:

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.


Seems like people forget quickly about transistor ... or the P graveyard alias ... Camelot!!!
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
January 15 2019 11:20 GMT
#17
On January 15 2019 20:11 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2019 19:59 jjmmtt wrote:

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.


I am watching pro BW and using TL.net since the very beginning and I have this feeling, maybe its subjective, that the moment there is a Protoss favored map, people start commenting how protosses are getting free wins, undeserved wins etc., but all the Terran or Zerg favored maps throughout the whole history of BW are perceived as either Terran and Zergs are better players or Protoss race is just weaker. Nevertheless there were a lot more Terran & Zerg favored maps than Protoss favored maps imo. Protoss had so few favored maps compared to the other races historically but somehow this race is not allowed to have favored maps - islands, semi-islands or others


Maps should ideally not favour anyone? Okay that's not really a particularly easy thing to do and maps will almost always swing one way or another but to be SUPER favoured in one direction to the point where it's virtually unwinnable for a race is pretty unacceptable or at least it should be for high level tournament play. Especially since it's the first map in the pool.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 11:20 GMT
#18
Oh noice corsair reaver.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 11:22:28
January 15 2019 11:21 GMT
#19
This reaver did so much damage. Borrowing vs reavers is a nice move though.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
January 15 2019 11:24 GMT
#20
This map is fun! Really glad SnOw has seemingly improved his PvZ
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
January 15 2019 11:27 GMT
#21
boo. at least piano/tinkle still has a chance
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8513 Posts
January 15 2019 11:27 GMT
#22
GG ! Snow playing perfect with his reaver control !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
January 15 2019 11:30 GMT
#23
I'm rooting for Tinkle for the next one, because he's the underdog. But in the end, I need Action to clean this up for my liquibets.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 11:31 GMT
#24
We get a TvT at least. I know a lot of people hate watching TvT matches. But for me, I've always loved TvT. I don't think either will beat Action though.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8513 Posts
January 15 2019 11:37 GMT
#25
the dialogue between tastosis is ...... unbelivable
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 15 2019 11:37 GMT
#26
Gogogo newcomersss ... cheering for tinkle here!!!
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
January 15 2019 11:38 GMT
#27
Go Tinkle!
Flash returns...
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 11:44 GMT
#28
Wow, that was a nice vulture run buy.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8513 Posts
January 15 2019 11:47 GMT
#29
88/50 supply for organ
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 11:49:07
January 15 2019 11:48 GMT
#30
This is really looking like pro vs amateur
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8513 Posts
January 15 2019 11:49 GMT
#31
good BO from tinkle! but organ is a veteran!

now we have action vs organ again !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 11:50 GMT
#32
Well, at least he looked ok early on. Shows the difference between pro and amateur.
Artosis loves Starcraft
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 12:01:30
January 15 2019 11:59 GMT
#33
On January 15 2019 20:18 Xeln4g4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2019 19:59 jjmmtt wrote:

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.


Seems like people forget quickly about transistor ... or the P graveyard alias ... Camelot!!!


Transistor was actually Protoss favoured vs Terran (Protoss had a 75% win rate) and Zerg Favoured vs Protoss (Zerg had a 65% win rate). So... ? Block Chain is much, much more imbalanced than Transistor.

And Protoss had a 56% win rate vs Terran on Camelot. Zerg had a 63% win rate vs Protoss on that map. That really, really is not "unwinnable" for Protoss in any way.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
January 15 2019 12:05 GMT
#34
action why u do this
: o )
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 15 2019 12:05 GMT
#35
Lurkers walking into mines. It's a massacre.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:05 GMT
#36
Holy shit those spider mines.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
January 15 2019 12:07 GMT
#37
is this the first time piano makes it into asl ro16? pretty sure it is
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
January 15 2019 12:07 GMT
#38
action why u so good sometimes
: o )
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:08 GMT
#39
lol gets owned by hold position.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 15 2019 12:08 GMT
#40
JEEEZ pimp hold position lurkers
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:10 GMT
#41
Damn his lead just vanished into smoke there.
Artosis loves Starcraft
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 12:13:32
January 15 2019 12:12 GMT
#42
ACTION!!!!!!!! HOLDING?!?1?!!?!!!!

If he holds this he's on 4 bases.

Edit:
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
January 15 2019 12:13 GMT
#43
Owch that's a tough loss

but Terran can stay on 2 bases for so long :0
: o )
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8513 Posts
January 15 2019 12:13 GMT
#44
oO!! Piano did it !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 15 2019 12:14 GMT
#45
That +1 armor really paid of in the end
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
January 15 2019 12:14 GMT
#46
ez liquibet points
The original Bogus fan.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:14 GMT
#47
I love watching back and forth games like that. PianO did really well to win there.
Artosis loves Starcraft
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
January 15 2019 12:14 GMT
#48
piano embraces mech for the first time to make it to ro16
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland738 Posts
January 15 2019 12:14 GMT
#49
Pianooo!
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 15 2019 12:16 GMT
#50
Congrats Piano.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:17 GMT
#51
It's nice to see mech being used in TvZ. I've been used to seeing SK Terran + BC for a long while now.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 15 2019 12:18 GMT
#52
9/10 on Piano play on last game ... 9 is for the poor scans
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 15 2019 12:21 GMT
#53
Piano's was probably the liveliest interview that I've seen in ASL.

Hope he makes it to Ro8!
The heart's eternal vow
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 12:24:14
January 15 2019 12:23 GMT
#54
On January 15 2019 20:59 jjmmtt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2019 20:18 Xeln4g4 wrote:
On January 15 2019 19:59 jjmmtt wrote:

I wonder how many free wins Protoss will get because of Block Chain hmmm... or maybe free Terran losses I should say.


Seems like people forget quickly about transistor ... or the P graveyard alias ... Camelot!!!


Transistor was actually Protoss favoured vs Terran (Protoss had a 75% win rate) and Zerg Favoured vs Protoss (Zerg had a 65% win rate). So... ? Block Chain is much, much more imbalanced than Transistor.

And Protoss had a 56% win rate vs Terran on Camelot. Zerg had a 63% win rate vs Protoss on that map. That really, really is not "unwinnable" for Protoss in any way.


Those 2 maps where clearly broken for pvz without the help of statistics, you just have to look at them to know it... so they were not supposed to be used. So now enjoy Block chain. :D
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
January 15 2019 12:23 GMT
#55
Unless I'm mistaken, PianO is the oldest player to reach the round of 16 for the ASL, and he will be turning 31 this month.
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elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
January 15 2019 12:37 GMT
#56
Any youtube mirror?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 12:48 GMT
#57
The AfreecaTV channel just uploaded the vod here.
+ Show Spoiler +
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Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 13:36:14
January 15 2019 13:35 GMT
#58
The video has been removed (copyright infringement). Here is the link to the games of the group B commented by Flash :

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=84#1673
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
January 15 2019 13:55 GMT
#59
Wow, even more ASL videos removed.

Here is the English VOD if you want. Skip to 24:50 for game 1.

Artosis loves Starcraft
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
January 15 2019 15:10 GMT
#60
THIS SHIT AGAIN?

Can you guys on Afreeca do us an incredible favor of removing music from english cast?
:3
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1102 Posts
January 15 2019 15:41 GMT
#61
High level brood war today
I did enjoyed it for the most part despite i wanted action to advance
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
January 15 2019 15:57 GMT
#62
Games 3 and 5 were really good. I felt so bad for action when his lurkers ran into those mines in the last game, but I'm super impressed with how he almost turned the whole thing around. That hold position lurker that wiped out most of organ's army was one of the clutchest plays I've seen in a long while.
Free Palestine
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 15 2019 17:44 GMT
#63
No youtube vods from today?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-15 19:21:48
January 15 2019 19:20 GMT
#64
probably still processing/being edited

here's the afreeca vod in the meantime: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/40546393
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 15 2019 20:04 GMT
#65
Hope no copyright issues again with YouTube!
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
January 15 2019 20:45 GMT
#66
Happy that snow advanced. Too bad action lost but Piano played well.
Graphics
Li_Xin
Profile Joined January 2018
51 Posts
January 16 2019 01:17 GMT
#67
On January 15 2019 20:24 r33k wrote:
This map is fun! Really glad SnOw has seemingly improved his PvZ


Snow doesn't have a 35% winrate in PvZ because he's bad at PvZ.

He has a 35% winrate in PvZ because he's bad 65% of the time.

He looks like Bisu when he's playing good.
TJbla2e
Profile Joined March 2012
5 Posts
January 16 2019 17:58 GMT
#68
Why there is no Youtube video still?
I don't want and can afford to watch several hours in hd quality on afreecatv, this is ridiculous.
Any alternatives?
it's time to drop
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 16 2019 18:32 GMT
#69
The youtube video won't be viewable because it's got Linkin Park Faint in it (it was nada's song).

Warner Bros are taking down anything Linkin Park by making it unviewable in ANY region.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
January 16 2019 20:58 GMT
#70
"his name is John, he's into Yugioh and has a leather gracket" lmao artosis now I have to go rewatch him getting trolled by GOM again
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
January 16 2019 22:26 GMT
#71
I was thinking about the ro16 group selection. It is going to be Effort’s show. He gets to pick the 2 weakest players essentially to put into his group. So he is already off to a great start. Remember Flash’s advantage in ASL6?

The ro16 Group Selection is my favorite thing of the tournament. It introduces the players and builds hype. I hope TL staff will consider doing a pre-Group Selection coverage and post-Group Selection coverage with predictions and recaps! It is an important part of the tournament.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
January 17 2019 04:58 GMT
#72
Sad no youtube yet but the winner's expresion made it cooler. Multi-tasking was also pretty great in both of his matches.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
January 17 2019 17:12 GMT
#73
On January 17 2019 07:26 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I was thinking about the ro16 group selection. It is going to be Effort’s show. He gets to pick the 2 weakest players essentially to put into his group. So he is already off to a great start. Remember Flash’s advantage in ASL6?

The ro16 Group Selection is my favorite thing of the tournament. It introduces the players and builds hype. I hope TL staff will consider doing a pre-Group Selection coverage and post-Group Selection coverage with predictions and recaps! It is an important part of the tournament.
I hate this element of the ASL and historically the OSL, rigs the tournament waaaaay too much in favour of the prior champion.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
January 17 2019 17:52 GMT
#74
Group C is going to be awesome. It could potentially see Best against Mong. Remember the recent game where it was a nice long close game where Best was styling and using Feedback? I am hyped for sure.
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