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tanngard
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On November 23 2018 21:37 Katkishka wrote: I have no idea how Modesty managed to throw this game so hard, good lord. I just can't stand that "throw" word. These players have sacrificed so much to play at the highest level, just for people to sit on their ass and demand them to play perfectly. It's fine to point out flaws in their play, but why use a word that's literally insinuating that they lost on purpose? How disrespectful is that? | ||
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Katkishka
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On November 23 2018 21:49 tanngard wrote: I just can't stand that "throw" word. These players have sacrificed so much to play at the highest level, just for people to sit on their ass and demand them to play perfectly. It's fine to point out flaws in their play, but why use a word that's literally insinuating that they lost on purpose? How disrespectful is that? I'm not implying he lost on purpose, I'm implying that, through a series of poor decisions and engagements, he tossed a massive lead and lost a match that he should've won easily. Obviously he's infinitely better than me, but he's still not very good as far as BW pros go. | ||
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nojok
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On November 23 2018 21:49 tanngard wrote: I just can't stand that "throw" word. These players have sacrificed so much to play at the highest level, just for people to sit on their ass and demand them to play perfectly. It's fine to point out flaws in their play, but why use a word that's literally insinuating that they lost on purpose? How disrespectful is that? Relevant sig. People used to say it every two games in dota but it faded away. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Overall a very good bunch of games. | ||
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Turbovolver
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Hahaha, suuuuure Leta | ||
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zerglingling
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mechzdeus
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The big secret Leta going to 2 port wraith. | ||
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tanngard
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On November 23 2018 21:59 Katkishka wrote: I'm not implying he lost on purpose, I'm implying that, through a series of poor decisions and engagements, he tossed a massive lead and lost a match that he should've won easily. Obviously he's infinitely better than me, but he's still not very good as far as BW pros go. I know you don't mean he lost the game on purpose, but that's why i hate that word. It does literally imply an intended action in ridding oneself of an opportunity to win. | ||
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Breach_hu
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On November 23 2018 22:13 zerglingling wrote: Couldn't he just make a queen and ensnare the wraiths out of existence? He did that before, and he did beat Leta 3-2. Today he was really off, Leta didnt do anything differently or better than the last time they did play. | ||
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repomaniak
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On November 23 2018 22:22 Breach_hu wrote: He did that before, and he did beat Leta 3-2. Today he was really off, Leta didnt do anything differently or better than the last time they did play. Well, he didn't go 8rax vs 12pool for starters :x | ||
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On November 23 2018 23:57 Xain0n wrote: When are pairings being shown? They showed them at the end of todays stream, ro8 matches are: Rain vs leta Mind vs sharp And on the other side of the bracket the matches are Sk vs larva Last vs miso Which means that rain is the first finalist  | ||
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arbiter_md
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Ideas
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I guess the whole series (+ their first series) both players were so afraid of counter-harassment from the other that they both just turtled A LOT, but damn it's so frustrating to watch 2 players continuously go for hyper-aggressive builds vs each other over and over again and then see almost nothing happen for the first 12 minutes every game. | ||
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KamMoye
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Barneyk
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And Sharp is always so damn good and active with his vultures, why not prepare better for it? And why not adapt better to it in the game? Bermuda played so well in parts of the game, some of the most frustrating matches I have seen. And why not expand as P when you have an advantage on T? And Leta vs. Modesty was even weirder than their first series, it is kinda interesting to see Leta use his unique style though and wraiths are fun. But there is so much down time during the games where the wraiths are just sitting there and nothing is going on from either side even though there seems like a lot of opportunity for it. I get that it is easy for me to say as a spectator but when watching the better players play it is such a big difference. Anyway, Artosis and Tasteless made it entertaining throughout anyway, and there were some great moments and it is kinda nice to see some unconventional matches from time to time to really appreciate the beauty of a tightly played broodwar game. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
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Rain vs Leta Mind vs Sharp Soulkey vs Larva Last vs Where | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 23 2018 22:13 Turbovolver wrote: "I was trying to figure out what would counter his style, and realised that 2 starport was the best option" Hahaha, suuuuure Leta hahaha the interviewer should have burst out laughing on the spot. | ||
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Xain0n
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Barneyk
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On November 26 2018 07:59 v1p3r52 wrote: did flash not qualify for or choose to no enter KSL? Flash, and others like Jaedong, chose to not participate in KSL 2 to focus on ASL6 instead. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On November 24 2018 07:27 Ideas wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but Modesty and Leta both just seem way worse than the rest of the players in the Ro8? It's disappointing to see Modesty never mixed in a 3 hatch in this series, especially after how successful he was with it vs Last last week. He got so far ahead in Game 2 and then threw it all away by over-expanding and trying to literally get every tech at the same time. If he just stuck to 1 route he would have been fine, but instead had to go for greater spire + defiler + lurker + ultra? AND expand 3 places at once? I guess the whole series (+ their first series) both players were so afraid of counter-harassment from the other that they both just turtled A LOT, but damn it's so frustrating to watch 2 players continuously go for hyper-aggressive builds vs each other over and over again and then see almost nothing happen for the first 12 minutes every game. Going 3 hatch doesn't make any sense when playing vs Leta when 99% of the time he's going for 2 port wraith. | ||
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Ideas
United States8072 Posts
On November 26 2018 18:16 Qikz wrote: Going 3 hatch doesn't make any sense when playing vs Leta when 99% of the time he's going for 2 port wraith. Hmm maybe I'm just really dumb and bad at the game but it's not like 3 hat is an automatic BO loss vs 2port? You just need to get hydra den earlier. I've always thought of both being equally viable against 2port but maybe that's just because Ts near my rank on the ladder can't ever pull off 2port and I haven't seen a 3 hat vs 2port pro game since the kespa days and don't really remember how that went any more. Either way I guess Modesty always wants to go 2hat anyway so makes sense that he'd do that vs leta every game. | ||
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arbiter_md
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Turbovolver
Australia2384 Posts
On November 28 2018 06:41 arbiter_md wrote: I wonder how quick 3 base + spores into tech would do against 2port wraiths. I do seem to remember a lot more spores being used vs wraiths back in the old days of playing against 2port. Those games felt different to these ones, though. Old-style 2port, the marine/medic followup came rather quickly after the wraith harassment, and it felt a bit more all-in. | ||
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