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[KSL2] Ro16 Day 9 - Group A/B Final Match

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
November 22 2018 09:48 GMT
#1

Korea StarCraft League Season 2


Thursday, Nov 22 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)2018 Korea StarCraft League Season 2


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Tasteless | Artosis | RAPiD | Gclef


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oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
November 22 2018 10:08 GMT
#2
hopefully MisO wont get totally outclassed
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 10:21 GMT
#3
What's the reason to take the close to Terran 3rd on HRB? Action did the same vs Light. Is it the distance between your 2nd and 3rd for bio to cross or?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 10:23 GMT
#4
Pretty fun game 1. So glad we got more KSL tonight.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 10:39 GMT
#5
Miso :o!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 22 2018 10:40 GMT
#6
Wow. Is Where that good? I´ve never seen him play this good (game 2).
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2018 10:57 GMT
#7
Where getting all the tech at once lol
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 10:59 GMT
#8
Well holy shit
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 11:01 GMT
#9
Pretty cool to see Devours in the game. We don't get to see them too often.

Also, don't scroll down and then whine at me about spoilers. I've freakin sick of people doing that.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2018 11:02 GMT
#10
Well done Where. I don't think anybody expected Where to win. What a tense game. That third location between the bases. It almost get scouted by a wondering marine, but didn't, and the nat almost died to an academy build because Where can't afford sunkens for his 2 hatch muta build and because he didn't make his lair at the nat, and then he made a spire, but defiler and hold lurkers!
Zaibakk
Profile Joined May 2017
101 Posts
November 22 2018 11:02 GMT
#11
He faked the greater spire... he is playing so good! While Light is so predictable.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 11:13 GMT
#12
Liquibets ruined
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
November 22 2018 11:14 GMT
#13
On November 22 2018 19:08 oEkY wrote:
hopefully MisO wont get totally outclassed


lol, shame on me... how could i be so wrong?
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
November 22 2018 11:16 GMT
#14
Light is so stubborn and where ABUSED that to the maximum.
Give thanks and praise!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 11:18 GMT
#15
Poll: Recommend Light vs Where Game 1?

If you have time (4)
 
50%

Yes (2)
 
25%

No (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Where Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Light vs Where Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
92%

No (1)
 
8%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Where Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Light vs Where Game 3?

Yes (12)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Where Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Light vs Where Game 4?

Yes (6)
 
60%

If you have time (4)
 
40%

No (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Where Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Poll: Recommend Light vs Where Game 5?

Yes (8)
 
67%

If you have time (4)
 
33%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs Where Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


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NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 11:42 GMT
#16
So many Terrans playing obviously against Zergs lately.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2018 11:42 GMT
#17
WTF Soulkey just knows that Mini is proxying.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 11:47 GMT
#18
I love hearing Artosis just losing it because of Tasteless commentary.
Artosis loves Starcraft
zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
November 22 2018 11:58 GMT
#19
On November 22 2018 20:13 Ej_ wrote:
Liquibets ruined

Nah.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 12:05 GMT
#20
Really fun gam 2. For a momwnt I thought SK could've done it
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:06 GMT
#21
Poll: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 1?

No (6)
 
55%

If you have time (5)
 
45%

Yes (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


WriterReV hwaiting!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:06 GMT
#22
Poll: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 2?

Yes (11)
 
92%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (0)
 
0%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


WriterReV hwaiting!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 12:15 GMT
#23
Didn't expect Z<P on CB ;o
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 12:31 GMT
#24
Soulkey looked so good in that game. I hope Mini can come back and get us game 5 though.
Artosis loves Starcraft
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:31 GMT
#25
Poll: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 3?

If you have time (6)
 
75%

Yes (2)
 
25%

No (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


WriterReV hwaiting!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2018 12:32 GMT
#26
That was very well done by Soulkey. Had good vision and always slipping lings round the side of the P army.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8041 Posts
November 22 2018 12:33 GMT
#27
On November 22 2018 20:58 zerglingling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2018 20:13 Ej_ wrote:
Liquibets ruined

Nah.
[image loading]

But but .....how ?????!?!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 12:38 GMT
#28
Oh Mini...
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 12:39 GMT
#29
Letting those Lings in. Man, that is painful to watch.
Artosis loves Starcraft
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:39 GMT
#30
What's with protoss players doing stuff like this against Soulkey, I remember Best letting lings in his main because of bad zealot positioning...
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 12:41 GMT
#31
LOL the scourge
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
November 22 2018 12:44 GMT
#32
Soulkey playing a very dangerous game with his mutas.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 22 2018 12:50 GMT
#33
Lurker in the 3rd caught Mini offguard :x
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:51 GMT
#34
Poll: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 4?

If you have time (5)
 
45%

Yes (4)
 
36%

No (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Mini vs SoulKey Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


WriterReV hwaiting!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-22 12:52:34
November 22 2018 12:52 GMT
#35
Shame this didn't go to game 5. I thought Mini had that FS game when he held all that Muta pressure.
Artosis loves Starcraft
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 22 2018 12:52 GMT
#36
On November 22 2018 21:50 Ej_ wrote:
Lurker in the 3rd caught Mini offguard :x

SK's whole army slowly crawling across the map caught mini offguard. So anticlimactic.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
November 22 2018 12:52 GMT
#37
A testament to SoulKey's strategic thinking. He just forced Mini to react to him at every possible occasion and not the other way around. And Mini failed.
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zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
November 22 2018 12:58 GMT
#38
On November 22 2018 21:33 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2018 20:58 zerglingling wrote:
On November 22 2018 20:13 Ej_ wrote:
Liquibets ruined

Nah.
[image loading]

But but .....how ?????!?!!

You just, like, gotta believe, man.
[image loading]
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
November 22 2018 13:18 GMT
#39
KSL Artosis maditating


KSL audience cute girl


KSL Where interview


KSL artosis what is mini going to do?


KSL Artosis grandpa


KSL Soulkey interview


KSL cheer costa rica honey moon no better place to go ( Korea Starcraft )


KSL Tasteless "its fine" Artosis LuL


KSL Tasteless stori about ppl being wrong about starcraft (Artosis)


KSL Tasteless glass of water


KSL Casting Spirit Tastosis


KSL Tastosis soulkey's GF


KSL Tasteless starcraft 1998 no hold position


KSL Tasteless 2 port wraith Leta?


KSL Artosis Ro16 16 terrans
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8041 Posts
November 22 2018 14:13 GMT
#40
On November 22 2018 22:18 repomaniak wrote:
KSL Artosis maditating
https://clips.twitch.tv/PluckyTallDumplingsDoubleRainbow

KSL audience cute girl
https://clips.twitch.tv/MagnificentCutePeanutBleedPurple

KSL Where interview
https://clips.twitch.tv/VivaciousSingleArmadilloOhMyDog

KSL artosis what is mini going to do?
https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelyVictoriousFishLitty

KSL Artosis grandpa
https://clips.twitch.tv/TransparentPowerfulPanBCWarrior

KSL Soulkey interview
https://clips.twitch.tv/TenaciousPunchySardineBleedPurple

KSL cheer costa rica honey moon no better place to go ( Korea Starcraft )
https://clips.twitch.tv/ConsiderateKawaiiPieCeilingCat

KSL Tasteless "its fine" Artosis LuL
https://clips.twitch.tv/SecretiveProudChickpeaANELE

KSL Tasteless stori about ppl being wrong about starcraft (Artosis)
https://clips.twitch.tv/SpeedyCrowdedBulgogiDAESuppy

KSL Tasteless glass of water
https://clips.twitch.tv/OriginalLovelyHornetCharlieBitMe

KSL Casting Spirit Tastosis
https://clips.twitch.tv/MistyCorrectDragonflyDancingBanana

KSL Tastosis soulkey's GF
https://clips.twitch.tv/EnergeticPiliableAdminKappaWealth

KSL Tasteless starcraft 1998 no hold position
https://clips.twitch.tv/SpunkyCautiousClintDxAbomb

KSL Tasteless 2 port wraith Leta?
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtisticOddSushiMVGame

KSL Artosis Ro16 16 terrans
https://clips.twitch.tv/GloriousFunnyAlfalfaSquadGoals


A million beers for repomaniak
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3112 Posts
November 22 2018 15:48 GMT
#41
Prosatan, it might be better to put that quote in a spoiler. That is quite a long post for the page. But yer, thanks to repomaniak for the videos. Great stuff mate.
Artosis loves Starcraft
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1564 Posts
November 22 2018 17:53 GMT
#42
pouaa Miso 3/1 Light, that was unexpected for me.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 22 2018 20:56 GMT
#43
im shocked miso won 3-1 but im not shocked he played well. Amusing turn around given how awful he was against rain though.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 22 2018 20:57 GMT
#44
Wasn't expecting the Miso 3-1, but I'll be damned if it wasn't an entertaining 3-1, Miso came prepared and Light was on autopilot.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
nahyunjung
Profile Joined October 2018
40 Posts
November 22 2018 23:08 GMT
#45
Mini needs to either take a xanax before a match, or take some time off to work on his nerves. gGet a haircut, learn how to dress, and go get LAID (start with a fat practice chick then move up if possible) so he can have a little bit of self confidence and not be a bundle of nerves that implodes upon himself causing him to lose a series he should have easily won. It's soooo frustrating to watch his senseless mistakes over and over that end up snowballing as he panics and loses control. You have 400 apm dude, you should be able to close your ramp at home instead of letting two zealots sit on it single file when you don't even have a full control group of units or anything else to speak of that should tax your multitasking. Now you have lings in your main that set the same old process in motion. Hands get sweaty, heart rate goes up. You're thinking about how everyone is judging how poorly you're performing. Your thought process is now totally out of wack and you start making poor decisions. Maybe you'll throw away units repeatedly going up a ramp that anyone can see you won't be able to break. Or maybe you'll send your entire army to a map location where nothing is going on allowing yourself to get countered. Now your army is split up, you can't flank the counter because it's a bunch of lurkers and you never got an observer. LOOOOOOL AHHHHHHHHHHH I'm glad he lost, even though I was rooting for him going in, I just can't watch this anymore. Just look at him afterwards, what a mess.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1030 Posts
November 23 2018 01:15 GMT
#46
That being said, "all this mess" is affecting you way more than the Mini himself.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8041 Posts
November 23 2018 06:06 GMT
#47
On November 23 2018 00:48 NoS-Craig wrote:
Prosatan, it might be better to put that quote in a spoiler. That is quite a long post for the page. But yer, thanks to repomaniak for the videos. Great stuff mate.

yeah u right 100 % ! sorry !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
November 23 2018 18:47 GMT
#48
Well played by Where pulling out the strats!
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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
November 23 2018 21:52 GMT
#49
Can anybody explain the details in strategy that allowed Where to win the games against Light in such a fashion?
I always assumed Where was on the lower end of players in terms of skills. It's a huge jump from there to the level where he 3-1-ed Light. Was it because he suddenly became good overall, or was it because his builds countered so well what Light did?
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nahyunjung
Profile Joined October 2018
40 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 00:07:42
November 24 2018 00:06 GMT
#50
On November 23 2018 10:15 TornadoSteve wrote:
That being said, "all this mess" is affecting you way more than the Mini himself.


Yeah my 15 minutes watching a video game is probably affecting me more than his entire life is affecting him, I'll concede that, sorry.

EDIT: WAY more, not just more.
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos250 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 16:12:56
November 24 2018 16:03 GMT
#51
can 2h muta into 3rd fast hive possibly become the new zvt standard opening in 2019 ?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 24 2018 18:04 GMT
#52
On November 24 2018 09:06 nahyunjung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 10:15 TornadoSteve wrote:
That being said, "all this mess" is affecting you way more than the Mini himself.


Yeah my 15 minutes watching a video game is probably affecting me more than his entire life is affecting him, I'll concede that, sorry.

EDIT: WAY more, not just more.
You seem highstrung af.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
November 24 2018 21:15 GMT
#53
On November 24 2018 06:52 arbiter_md wrote:
Can anybody explain the details in strategy that allowed Where to win the games against Light in such a fashion?
I always assumed Where was on the lower end of players in terms of skills. It's a huge jump from there to the level where he 3-1-ed Light. Was it because he suddenly became good overall, or was it because his builds countered so well what Light did?


I could be wrong but my impression was that Light sorta choked after losing the second game. Where got in his head and Light ended up making lots of mistakes in the rest of the series. He kept playing standard and letting Where dictate the flow of each game, and seemed to be second-guessing himself a lot as he was never confident enough in knowing what Where was up to. Light is super good mechanically but has never been a strong BoX player.
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SC_ar
Profile Joined July 2018
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-28 06:17:09
November 28 2018 06:16 GMT
#54
Cheering for Miso in the Ro8! You always see the craziest stuff in Bo5.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
November 28 2018 06:22 GMT
#55
On November 24 2018 06:52 arbiter_md wrote:
Can anybody explain the details in strategy that allowed Where to win the games against Light in such a fashion?
I always assumed Where was on the lower end of players in terms of skills. It's a huge jump from there to the level where he 3-1-ed Light. Was it because he suddenly became good overall, or was it because his builds countered so well what Light did?


he played aggresive and mixed it up. mind games > pure skill, this time.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-28 14:55:37
November 28 2018 14:43 GMT
#56
On November 23 2018 08:08 nahyunjung wrote:
Mini needs to either take a xanax before a match, or take some time off to work on his nerves. gGet a haircut, learn how to dress, and go get LAID (start with a fat practice chick then move up if possible) so he can have a little bit of self confidence


qu'est ce que fuck?
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria408 Posts
November 28 2018 16:01 GMT
#57
On November 23 2018 08:08 nahyunjung wrote:
gGet a haircut, learn how to dress, and go get LAID (start with a fat practice chick then move up if possible) so he can have a little bit of self confidence


This seems like a rather pitiful attempt at giving life advice, really. At least it was remotely entertaining to read your frustration. Thank you for that contribution.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
nahyunjung
Profile Joined October 2018
40 Posts
November 28 2018 23:58 GMT
#58
On November 29 2018 01:01 JoinTheRain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 08:08 nahyunjung wrote:
gGet a haircut, learn how to dress, and go get LAID (start with a fat practice chick then move up if possible) so he can have a little bit of self confidence


This seems like a rather pitiful attempt at giving life advice, really. At least it was remotely entertaining to read your frustration. Thank you for that contribution.


What makes it pitiful? It's basic, admittedly. Yet all you have to do is look at his mannerisms particularly after a loss but even in interviews before a match takes place to see what I'm giving as advice would probably be beneficial. If he had some swag he would most likely perform every bit as well as Rain. I know this particular advice tends to strike a chord with the TL crowd in general so I wasn't expecting to win a popularity contest by giving it.
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